Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Techmology and Scientism => Topic started by: Cain on September 18, 2010, 12:57:13 PM

Title: Heliocentrism is a leftist plot, and proof you hate God
Post by: Cain on September 18, 2010, 12:57:13 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Galileo-Was-Wrong-Church-Right/dp/0977964000

QuoteGalileo Was Wrong is a detailed and comprehensive treatise that demonstrates from the scientific evidence that heliocentrism (the concept that the Earth rotates on its axis and revolves around the sun) is an unproven scientific theory; and that geocentrism (the view that the Earth is in the center of the universe and does not move by either rotation or revolution) is not only supported by the scientific evidence but is admitted to be a logical and viable cosmology by many of the world's top scientists, including Albert Einstein, Ernst Mach, Edwin Hubble, Fred Hoyle and many more.

About the Author

Robert A. Sungenis, Ph.D. is the president of Catholic Apologetics International and is the author of many books and articles on theology, science, culture and politics. Robert J. Bennett, Ph.D. has been an instructor of physics and mathematics for many years at various academic institutions.

As I understand it, the usual ploy amongst the anti-science crowd is to compare yourself to Galileo and your detractors to the Inquisition.  This is something new, arguing that Galileo himself was wrong.  I mean, come on man, even the Ancient Greeks had this figured out.
Title: Re: Heliocentrism is a leftist plot, and proof you hate God
Post by: Don Coyote on September 18, 2010, 02:55:08 PM
The ancient Greeks were heathens, and therefore were plotting against god. Which invalidates that.
Title: Re: Heliocentrism is a leftist plot, and proof you hate God
Post by: Kai on September 18, 2010, 03:23:30 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 18, 2010, 12:57:13 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Galileo-Was-Wrong-Church-Right/dp/0977964000

QuoteGalileo Was Wrong is a detailed and comprehensive treatise that demonstrates from the scientific evidence that heliocentrism (the concept that the Earth rotates on its axis and revolves around the sun) is an unproven scientific theory; and that geocentrism (the view that the Earth is in the center of the universe and does not move by either rotation or revolution) is not only supported by the scientific evidence but is admitted to be a logical and viable cosmology by many of the world's top scientists, including Albert Einstein, Ernst Mach, Edwin Hubble, Fred Hoyle and many more.

About the Author

Robert A. Sungenis, Ph.D. is the president of Catholic Apologetics International and is the author of many books and articles on theology, science, culture and politics. Robert J. Bennett, Ph.D. has been an instructor of physics and mathematics for many years at various academic institutions.

As I understand it, the usual ploy amongst the anti-science crowd is to compare yourself to Galileo and your detractors to the Inquisition.  This is something new, arguing that Galileo himself was wrong.  I mean, come on man, even the Ancient Greeks had this figured out.

Considering it's so bizarre a claim as to have absolutely no supporting evidence and be contradicted equally by every piece of evidence for heliocentrism, and since it's been beaten out of our minds collectively for so long, only complete idiots who never went to grade school will believe it.

It's a distraction to skeptics who think it's a real issue.
Title: Re: Heliocentrism is a leftist plot, and proof you hate God
Post by: Rumckle on September 18, 2010, 03:59:20 PM
Quote from: Cudgel on September 18, 2010, 02:55:08 PM
The ancient Greeks were heathens, and therefore were plotting against god. Which invalidates that.
They were all homosexual's, isn't that enough proof for you liberal scum?
Title: Re: Heliocentrism is a leftist plot, and proof you hate God
Post by: Juana on September 18, 2010, 07:52:30 PM
 :lulz:
Pope's astronomer says he would baptise an alien if it asked him (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/sep/17/pope-astronomer-baptise-aliens?CMP=twt_gu)
QuoteThe pope's astronomer said the Vatican was keen on science and admitted that the church had got it "spectacularly wrong" over its treatment of the 17th century astronomer Galileo Galilei. Galileo confirmed that the Earth went around the sun – and not the other way around – and was charged with heresy in 1633. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest in Tuscany. Only in 1992 did Pope John Paul admit that the church's treatment of Galileo had been a mistake.
Title: Re: Heliocentrism is a leftist plot, and proof you hate God
Post by: Cain on September 18, 2010, 09:28:09 PM
That's the thing I don't get.  It's like the Irish science minister business (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1312210/Ireland-science-minsiter-Conor-Lenihan-pulls-evolution-hoax-book-launch.html) - did he not get the memo that the Vatican now accepts evolution, more or less?

Then again, you've still got old timers railing against Vatican II, so this shouldn't be too surprising, I guess.
Title: Re: Heliocentrism is a leftist plot, and proof you hate God
Post by: Mangrove on September 21, 2010, 08:18:17 PM
Cain,

You disproved my theory!

I've always wondered why Fundamentalists have latched onto Evolution as their beef. They never seemed to be bothered by either the Earth being round or that the sun is at the centre of this particular system. And then you post the above link.

I'm not sure whether to be pleased or disappointed about this development.

:?
Title: Re: Heliocentrism is a leftist plot, and proof you hate God
Post by: Cain on September 21, 2010, 08:59:40 PM
They will turn back the clock on everything, given time.

In fact, it's actually part of a deliberate strategy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedge_strategy

QuoteThe wedge strategy is a political and social action plan authored by the Discovery Institute, the hub of the intelligent design movement. The strategy was put forth in a Discovery Institute manifesto known as the Wedge Document, which describes a broad social, political, and academic agenda whose ultimate goal is to "defeat scientific materialism" represented by evolution, "reverse the stifling materialist world view and replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions". The strategy also aims to "affirm the reality of God." Its goal is to "renew" American culture by shaping public policy to reflect conservative Christian, namely evangelical Protestant, values. The wedge metaphor is attributed to Phillip E. Johnson and depicts a metal wedge splitting a log to represent an aggressive public relations program to create an opening for the supernatural in the public's understanding of science.

In other words, create doubts about the accuracy of certain scientific principles, build on them over time, proffer Christianity-derived doctrines to fill the gaps.  Evolution is just the first step.
Title: Re: Heliocentrism is a leftist plot, and proof you hate God
Post by: The Johnny on September 22, 2010, 01:24:13 AM

QuoteThe wedge strategy is a political and social action plan authored by the Discovery Institute, the hub of the intelligent design movement. The strategy was put forth in a Discovery Institute manifesto known as the Wedge Document, which describes a broad social, political, and academic agenda whose ultimate goal is to "defeat scientific materialism" represented by evolution, "reverse the stifling materialist world view and replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions". The strategy also aims to "affirm the reality of God." Its goal is to "renew" American culture by shaping public policy to reflect conservative Christian, namely evangelical Protestant, values. The wedge metaphor is attributed to Phillip E. Johnson and depicts a metal wedge splitting a log to represent an aggressive public relations program to create an opening for the supernatural in the public's understanding of science.

:horrormirth: