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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Disco Pickle on September 26, 2010, 06:33:53 AM

Title: A Pickled Past: The Brief History of a Doomed Cucumber
Post by: Disco Pickle on September 26, 2010, 06:33:53 AM
I've never told this story, and I'm not sure why I'm telling it now, to PD of all places, except that maybe because it's been a year now in September since my mother passed, and I haven't but one or two people, other than my sister, who have lived through parts of this story..  I don't want to burden them with the details..  they understand the broad strokes that have made me who I am.. I'll continue this in a day or so..  readers, or not..  I just need to get it out, once and for all.

There are some people who should have never had children.  I woke several mornings, living with my parents, thinking this exact thought.

My father would leave around 6, and turn on our bedroom lights, say "hey, get up" and that was mine and my sisters que to start our school day.  We no longer fought over who would shower first. I told her that I would let her sleep another 15 minutes later and would take the first shower shift.  

Mom would sleep.  She didn't fall asleep until around 3 or 4 anyway..   She was usually passed out on the couch.   It's not that she didn't want to go to sleep in their bedroom, more that she and the man she married just didn't get along enough to warrant sleeping in the same room anymore.

I began to realize my parents were addicted to drugs when I was about 10 or 11.  My sister, being a year and a half behind me, had no clue and I wasn't about to let her in on the dark secret.  

"Hey, you guys want to play Nintendo?"  That was the first pattern I began to notice, that gave me evidence about their behavior, their addiction.  We had one TV in the house and they usually dominated what was on..   Drama or sitcoms if mom was home..  NASCAR and WWF if my father was home..

In their frequent fights, one of them had kicked the door to their bedroom off of the hinges and they'd never bothered to replace it.  In it's place, they hung a blanket.  The smell of marijuana seeped out from around the blanket, but I didn't know what that smell really was at the time..  the sounds of them both inhaling sharply through their nose didn't make an impression on me until many years later.  At that age, while I was aware that something was going on, I was still just a child and my primary concern was fighting with my sister over whether I would get to play Legend of Zelda, or she got to play Doctor Mario..

Some people were never meant to get married.

It was around the age of 14 that I accepted that my parents really hated being around each other all of the time.  They loved each other, as only two hopelessly disfunctional and codependent, drug addicted people can..  but I could see how it wore on them both..  in my father by becoming a workaholic, immersing himself in classic car restoration..  in my mother by becoming an alcoholic, and immersing herself in her paintings and her drawings..

I was 8 when the first break in our family happened.  

My sister and I got off of the bus, came in the house and mom was sitting on the couch crying.
She said that Dad wouldn't be home tonight, and not for a long time.  Being children with no real understanding of what the reality of our parents situations or addictions were, we just cried, and hugged our mom.   We had no idea that our world was about to be flipped upside down.

One week later, our mother sits us down at the dinner table (we never actually had dinner as a family at this table..  it was just for show really) and tells us that we're going on a trip..  that we're going to Florida, to live with Nana and Pop, just for a little while, until Mom and Dad can take care of some things in Texas, and that then they'd come and get us and we'd live in Florida.

It was our first trip on an airplane.  We flew into Atlanta and were met with strangers.  They were family, and we understood that they were family, but in reality. they were strangers to us.  

After the drive back to Jacksonville we were given the ground rules of the house, and over the next two weeks we were enrolled in the local school.  We were told that our parents would not be coming to Florida for some time and that we were expected to be model children.


...  to be continued.   I've a funeral to attend tomorrow, and it's late on the east coast.
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Post by: the last yatto on September 26, 2010, 08:57:06 AM
That's a lot of pressure to put on a father to be, then again I'm not addicted to anything, well except hash, which is why I been avoiding that vice for awhile now. Its a hardship I never really had to go only by proxy. By chance of aohell I became friends with one such outcast, her mom didn't really leave her with much and she's only seen her father once. Coming from a very middle class life, it was hard for me to see just how much not having solid roots for parents effected their mental health. My father played the fun one and didn't have a curfew since he didn't have one but he grew up where monthly bbq were common for everyone on the block to attend. Looking back my only problem was trying to fit in with a group of kids proud of their white trash nature.

Title: Re: not sure where this should go, so Im shoving it into apple talk
Post by: Eater of Clowns on September 26, 2010, 03:13:08 PM
You have me as a reader.  This is an extremely intense and personal piece, one I can imagine would be difficult to get down.  You're doing it very well.
Title: Re: not sure where this should go, so Im shoving it into apple talk
Post by: Nurse Enabler on September 26, 2010, 06:53:15 PM
Your story is sad. No kid should have to go through that. You have me as a reader too.
Title: Re: not sure where this should go, so Im shoving it into apple talk
Post by: Babes in Tongland on September 26, 2010, 07:03:12 PM
I'm reading too...

casting aside any mistakes my parents made, I am grateful to them for never involving drugs or alcohol in their lives. I got to witness similar things with my siblings at a young age, although. I'm sorry you had to go through that. It's a strange, long, difficult process trying to put things together when you're older & realize what was really going on.
Title: Re: not sure where this should go, so Im shoving it into apple talk
Post by: The Great Pope of OUTSIDE on September 26, 2010, 07:52:26 PM
I'm listening.

My family has its own problems and dysfunctional issues, but I have never known what it is to have a loved one addicted to drugs. Take your time, there is no need to rush. *hug*
Title: Re: not sure where this should go, so Im shoving it into apple talk
Post by: Disco Pickle on September 26, 2010, 11:09:19 PM
my little sister decided young that her shoulders would have to bear much less of the shit that came down on our family if she went along with the flow and asked as few questions as possible.  She missed our parents deeply the year and a half we stayed with Nana and Pop, but she only let it show to me, when we were playing alone, and rarely to our grandmother, who would comfort her and tell her that our parents were ok and would be coming to Florida soon.

I took the opposite road, and bucked "the system" as often as I could.  I rebelled, refusing to be dressed as my grandparents wanted me to dress, refusing to go to their catholic church, which seemed cult like to my very loosely affiliated baptist routes.  I would ask all of the questions my sister refused to ask, or didn't have enough willpower to ask for fear of the answers.

My grandparents were understanding to a point.  When I crossed that line, as I did often that year, the punishments were swift, stern, but never more than the infraction dictated.  My grandfather handled any punishment for me, and my grandmother for my sister.  We were not bad kids, but we were kids and I understood that I frequently pushed them to punish me.  See, I resented them for our situation, parentless in a strange state, strange school, living with virtual strangers.  Even knowing, at 9 years old, that they were our saving grace, had pulled us out of a bad situation and allowed our parents some time to get their shit back together.

They finally sat us down and told my sister and I what had happened to bring us here, why our parents were still in Texas.  Dad had been arrested for possesion of cocaine.  My uncle, his brother, got him a good lawyer, but the judge still gave him a year.  Mom was tying up the loose ends with the house and would be flying out as soon as she could. 

I knew what cocaine was, as much as any 9 year old can know.  I grew up during the early days of Nancy Regan's Just Say No campaign in the schools.  I would only find out over the coming years that in reality, I knew nothing about cocaine at the time, and would get a front row seat in how it will destroy a person, or people..  a family.

Mom surprised us.  We woke up one Saturday morning for breakfast at the table, something my grandparents insisted upon even though it was an alien concept to us when we arrived.  We had our backs to her when she came out of the shower with a towel spun on her head the way she always did.  I remember her words, and can hear her say them in my head as I write this. 

"There's my babies" in that booming, dominating voice of hers.  We nearly tore the table down and turned our chairs over in order to run to her and hug her.  We stayed like that for what seemed a long time.  The three of us, crying.  One year apart, and so suddenly reunited.  I was sure that the clouds had finally parted, that we were going to be alright, that we'd go back to living a life of normalcy, however still skewed compared to the other kids I knew.

She stayed with us for a few weeks while she looked for work.  Dad was still going to be 6 months from meeting up with us, and she wanted to have a house for us to move into when he got there.  When she found work, we saw less of her because of her hours.  When she'd saved enough, she went and found a small apartment.  We stayed with Nana and Pop, to ease her financial burden while she got back on her feet.  We saw her on the weekends, and that was ok, better than not at all.  The first question invariably out of my mouth when I saw her was "When can we come live with you"  The answer was always "soon" with no commitment on when "soon" would be.

We passed another summer with Nana and Pop, and the threat of another school year in a school I hated loomed.  I had not made friends, and in fact had made several enemies.  My mouth, it seemed, would write checks my ass couldn't cash..  or when I did cash the check, I'd end up making more enemies.  It didn't help me that my grandparents finally won out over my protests at their clothing choice, and sent me to school dressed like Bobby Brady.  When anyone made fun of my attire, I snapped back visciously, sometimes getting caught by a teacher and getting sent to the Principal's office.  This would be a trend I would carry with me up until my senior year in highschool: The kid who just couldn't keep his mouth shut.

When we were still living in Texas, and my father was still building show cars with his brother who owned the only corvette lot in our city and was very well off, he decided to tear down his jeep and rebuild it as a show jeep.  A 1976 CJ-5, it was painted matte green for much of my childhood, and we often would be taken for rides in the dunes with my parents and my fathers friends.  They'd park the 4x4's on the beach and build a bon fire out off Padre Island and camp out.  That jeep was as much a part of the family as any of us.  When he decided to rebuild it, he became a ghost.  He had his shop in the garage out back and we knew where to find him, but when my father worked, he worked with intensity, and was never really available to us.  When it was finally done, when every part had been painted, every bolt tightened, that Jeep was a sight to behold.  Blood red, black trim and roll bars..  Custom varnished cedar dashboard and console.  It had a winch on the front that looked like it could have towed a space shuttle.  My mother, ever the artist, even did the airbrushing of the CJ-5 logo on the side.  That 8 cylinder engine, when cranked up, sounded better than my mother's 69 Z-28 Camero, something I think my mother always hated or envied, even though her car was nothing to sneeze at.

It was a summer saturday on the day I heard that engine, from 4 blocks over, while my sister and I were playing in the woods behind Nana and Pops..  I'd have known it anywhere and would still to this day, had my mother not wrecked it a few years later and bent the frame, exiling it to rot for the next 15 years in one back yard after another, my father never having the will to rebuild what was once his masterpiece.

My sister hadn't heard it, so when I stopped and cocked my ear, knowing even without thinking that it could be only one engine, she looked at me and I could see that she hadn't figured it out.  I said "DAD!" and took off running.  After a second or two of what I imagine must have been confusion, she too heard the sound of that 8 cylider and came right on my heels. 

He'd barely pulled in and killed the engine before he was out of the Jeep (no doors, of course) and on his knees with his arms open.  We nearly bowled him over, or so I'd like to think, but my father was and always has had incredible strength, and I think the only reason he might have nearly fell was emotion..  raw emotion.  Looking back over my life as his son, emotion is not a trait I would associate with my father.  Even his rages seemed always calculated and thought out. 

We cried there in his arms, and he with us.  I had seen my father cry only once before, at his mother's funeral.  I wouldn't see him cry again for another 20 years, and we'd all be crying together then as well.

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I have to take another break from this for a little while.  I have dinner to cook and Dexter to watch.  I'll try and write more tomorrow.
Title: Re: not sure where this should go, so Im shoving it into apple talk
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 27, 2010, 12:59:03 AM
Shit, this is powerful, moving stuff.
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Post by: Suu on September 27, 2010, 01:09:32 AM
Keep writing, please. I think you really need this.
Title: Re: not sure where this should go, so Im shoving it into apple talk
Post by: The Great Pope of OUTSIDE on September 27, 2010, 03:07:46 AM
We're all here for you man. Don't stop.
Title: Re: not sure where this should go, so Im shoving it into apple talk
Post by: Jasper on September 27, 2010, 04:56:54 AM
Phew.  That was wrenching to read.  Can't imagine what it was like to write.
Title: Re: not sure where this should go, so Im shoving it into apple talk
Post by: Disco Pickle on September 27, 2010, 02:59:01 PM
Even after our father was reunited with us, we were told that we needed to stay with Nana and Pop just a little while longer.  The apartment my mother found was too small for our needs, and they wanted some time to find a proper house, so we could go back to having our own bedrooms. 

Due to their limited finances, even with my father working 50 hour plus weeks, when they did find a place it was a modest double wide trailer on a large plot of land.  The owners lived in a small farm house further up the road.  This was an odd place to find a trailer, as the surrounding neighborhood had been suburbanized, turned into a housing complex several years before.  Naturally, all of the stigmatism that comes with being the only family living in a trailer surrounded by houses came to follow me.  I learned then that children are the most cruel of our species.  When given the opportunity to look down on those who have less, it seems they do not hesitate.  I did make one friend in the two years we lived in that trailer, and for that I was grateful.  I saw my first and only snow fall in '89.  I woke early and walked outside to an inch and a half of fresh snow.  The entire city shut down, and all of the bridges were closed, but my father took us out to a large empty parking lot and we did donuts in the jeep.  Things seemed to be going well for us, or as well as could be. 

We moved again 2 years later, way out to Palm Valley in the next county.  It was still fairly rural then, even with the Sawgrass and Marshlanding developments already looking to take over the landscape from A1A, beginning to change the names to Ponte Vedra.  I guess Palm Valley was too back woods Florida for them.

They had found a house to rent on the Intercoastal Waterway, with a dock and a large yard.  It was old and not very well kept, but it was perfect to me.  Even the prospect of changing schools yet again didn't bother me as long as we were together again.

My sister and I hadn't made any new friends since moving to Florida.  My grandparents house was rural for Jacksonville, and most of the neighborhood was retired couples.  Now, even though our new place exited onto the only artery through the area and traffic was regularly 45-50 MPH, we had the opportunity to make new friends in our new environment.  My sister was fortunate that our next door neighbors had 3 daughters, and she made fast friends.  I had to go farther afield, at least half a mile, but I found kids my own age who I got along with well.  Even the kids at my new school seemed friendly enough, and none of the problems from my previous school seemed to follow me.  We seemed happy for a time, this motley family of ours. 

We lived in that house a year.  I fished off the dock as often as I could, regularly baited a crab trap and pulled in blue crabs to boil for dinner.  I'd wake in the morning and take a perverse sense of pleasure walking around the live oaks that dominated our yard and tearing down the banana spider webs with a large stick.  The damn things terrified me, gigantic bird eaters they seemed to me then and to this day, if I walk face first into a spider web, I'll scream like a girl, imagining it was a banana spider that was in the web and was just then crawling into my collar and down my back.

We moved on New Years Day, 1992.  It was the middle of the school year, and we'd be changing schools yet again.  We moved into a house across the street from my fathers uncle, in a more urban area of the city known as Sin City.  Mostly upper lower class and lower class white and black families, in delapidated 50's and 60's housing.  It was in this house that I would meet who has become my closest friend and confidant.  It was also the house in which I would come to form a theory about my parents and their addictions, and the destruction it brought with it. 

I called this theory the 8 year rule, because up until the point when I finally moved away from my parents, at 15 years old, things had been managable.  They kept food on the table and the lights on.  My sister and I were not having to take baths at neighbors houses like we did in the last weeks in Texas.  But sometimes the veil between maintaining and collapsing is thin indeed.  It was the year I turned 16 that things once again collapsed, the cards came down, and and it was the last year I would ever live under the same roof with them.
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Post by: Jenne on September 27, 2010, 03:56:42 PM
Wow.  Powerful stuff to read, so I can imagine writing it is even moreso...and gut-wrenching to boot.  Thank you for sharing it with us.
Title: Re: not sure where this should go, so Im shoving it into apple talk
Post by: The Great Pope of OUTSIDE on September 27, 2010, 08:30:01 PM
I...think my dad saw that snow in the summer of '89. Weird.
Title: Re: not sure where this should go, so Im shoving it into apple talk
Post by: Disco Pickle on September 27, 2010, 09:38:44 PM
We finished moving in the same day, New Years day 1992.  I had been to the neighborhood before and knew there were a lot of other kids who lived on the street.  I'd make new friends, as would my sister though the boys outnumbered the girls in the neighborhood.  One of the friends I made has been one of the only lasting friendships I've formed in my life, and we still hang out regularly to talk shit, trade jokes and jabs, rag on each other and he still lets me humiliate him in fighting games.  He still jokes about wanting to slip his tube steak into my sister, and I still joke that if she's even half as good as his mother was..  you get the picture.

Matt came from a divorced and remarried family and lived, along with his younger brother, with his father and step mother.  Over the next few years we'd be nearly inseparable, barring the occasional disagreement and fight.  Boy stuff mostly like fighting over a girl from the neighborhood.  It never lasted long.

It was during this time that my parents began to exhibit the behavior patterns of old.  Dad would come  home from work and they'd both disappear into their bedroom.  Mom would stay up until 4 or 5 drinking and watching TV.  Both of their tempers seemed to get shorter, and the fights were frequent, brief but loud, and occasionally violent.  A growing sense of despair seemed to cloud around my mother, and she would frequently ask us who we would rather live with, her or our father, should they separate.  I always resented this question, being forced to choose between the two of them based on a hypothetical future that I would learn was less and less likely to occur the older they got.  They were made for each other, in their own dark way.  Given enough time apart, they might have met some other who would accept them, but what I came to truly believe was that there was no one else in the would who would have put up with either of them, other than the two of them.  

It was 8th grade that I really started getting into serious trouble, both in school and out.  I'd already picked up smoking cigarettes, and had tried alcohol and found it to my liking.  Pot came soon after and I found a seemingly endless supply: my parent's.  What began as me pinching their sack became a sort of game when they figured out what was going on, but weren't yet ready to have that conversation with their child.  They'd move the hiding place around, and I'd search for it while they were at work.  They kept me on my toes, even going as far as to hide it inside a hollow, red, rubber dildo with a balled up sock stuffed in to cover it.  You'd be amazed the lengths a kid will go to when he's bored at home and wants to get high.

Matt's father and his mother became involved in a custody dispute after Matt was hospitalized after huffing freon.  I never participated in this with him, as it naturally scared the shit out of me.  He had asthma most of his life, and this incident put him in the hospital, and as close to death as he's ever been.

His mother eventually won the custody dispute, and Matt moved away during my freshman year in high school.  We would see each other every other weekend for the next few years, but really we had been separated for all intents and purposes.  I filled the void by befriending a series of kids who took greater and greater risks with both the law, and drugs.  I was introduced to LSD at 14, and took to it like a duck to water.  It became my drug of choice as an escape from the darkness I saw happening in my home.  My sister was smart enough to not try anything other than pot, and had very few friends to smoke it with.  Mostly she just stayed with friends in order to be out of the path of destruction that inevitably came a few hours after my father had gotten home and the drugs ran out.

The children of drug addicts are orphans, and we never felt it more in those last years leading up to my exodus and the second collapse of our household.
Title: Re: not sure where this should go, so Im shoving it into apple talk
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 27, 2010, 09:46:18 PM
So, DP, I take it you're not in the "DRUGS ARE MAGICKAL" camp here, then?
Title: Re: not sure where this should go, so Im shoving it into apple talk
Post by: Disco Pickle on September 27, 2010, 09:53:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 27, 2010, 09:46:18 PM
So, DP, I take it you're not in the "DRUGS ARE MAGICKAL" camp here, then?

In my experience, which will become much more visceral in the next few posts, drugs can become the worst sort of escape.  Given the right sort, enough of them, over long enough time, they will kill you.  Anyone who argues that is deluded.
Title: Re: not sure where this should go, so Im shoving it into apple talk
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 27, 2010, 09:55:36 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on September 27, 2010, 09:53:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 27, 2010, 09:46:18 PM
So, DP, I take it you're not in the "DRUGS ARE MAGICKAL" camp here, then?

In my experience, which will become much more visceral in the next few posts, drugs can become the worst sort of escape.  Given the right sort, enough of them, over long enough time, they will kill you.  Anyone who argues that is deluded.

I've always been an "all things in moderation" type.  A little pot or cactus never hurt anyone, but I've watched peoples' lives evaporate with cocaine and/or meth.  Or just booze.
Title: Re: The Pickle's Past: The Brief History of a Doomed Family
Post by: The Great Pope of OUTSIDE on September 28, 2010, 04:16:11 AM
My heart goes out to you man. Seriously. Every word of this is ripping it out little by little.
Title: Re: The Pickle's Past: The Brief History of a Doomed Family
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 28, 2010, 07:19:44 AM
I'm on the edge of my seat here.
Title: Re: not sure where this should go, so Im shoving it into apple talk
Post by: Disco Pickle on September 28, 2010, 12:16:17 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 27, 2010, 09:55:36 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on September 27, 2010, 09:53:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 27, 2010, 09:46:18 PM
So, DP, I take it you're not in the "DRUGS ARE MAGICKAL" camp here, then?

In my experience, which will become much more visceral in the next few posts, drugs can become the worst sort of escape.  Given the right sort, enough of them, over long enough time, they will kill you.  Anyone who argues that is deluded.

I've always been an "all things in moderation" type.  A little pot or cactus never hurt anyone, but I've watched peoples' lives evaporate with cocaine and/or meth.  Or just booze.


In my own life I am an all things in moderation type.  I've rarely met my own type though.  Most just let it get out of control, until it's too late.

next entry coming this morning after I get some work off of my desk.
Title: Re: A Pickle's Past: The Brief History of a Doomed Cucumber
Post by: Disco Pickle on September 28, 2010, 08:33:56 PM
Changed title because it makes me  :lulz: and is somewhat metaphorical even if I myself am not doomed.

My mother's decline would have been apparent to anyone looking in.  Living in it made it impossible to ignore.  Her temper, usually directed at my father unless my sister and I had done goofed, was becoming less rational, more random.  I recall waking early one morning and making breakfast for myself and my sister, and forgetting about the toast I was making, subsequently burning it.  My mother was asleep on the couch in the other room and woke before I could clear the house of the smell of smoke.  She was enraged about being woken up, having finally passed out at 5 or 6 no doubt.  She smacked me across the face when I said what I thought was a reasonable assessment:  "It's just toast mom"

Incidents like this began to get more frequent.  It became where if my mother was mad at my father, she was mad at us by proxy.  We could do no right when she was in her rages.  She would sometimes sit in the living room in the middle of the night after something she had thought about regarding me had angered her all over again and yell back to my room about it.  2 am, 3 am, her circadian rhythm was broken by the alcohol and cocaine.  I cannot imagine the hell that must have been her conscious mind during these times, but it wore on us all, my father as well even knowing he was her enabler.

It was one of these very volatile nights that I decided to cut the cord.  Things had been bad that week, but this night was particularly bad.  My father and my aunt, mother's sister, had Baker Acted my mother.  She had just returned to us that week.  Being a bit of a sociopath and what I believe to be a master of disguise, she was able to convince them that she was of no danger to herself or others and they let her go after 3 days.  When she came home, she had hell in her eyes and her tongue had never been sharper.  She tore into my father unceasingly and he, never one to back down, returned it with gusto.  My sister was staying with a friend, her frequent way out.  I began to set plans in motion I had made months before.  I had a family willing to take me in, under the condition that I could convince my parents to sign over guardianship, and live by their rules.  That meant no more trouble with the law, and no more drugs.  I was sure I could do the former, and sure I could hide the latter.  I was also sure I could accomplish getting them to sign over guardianship, but this was not the night to do so.  Still, I wanted out that night, and resolved to handle the details when they had both calmed down and instead focused on their missing son. 

Perhaps that was selfish of me.  I thought it was at the time.  Looking back, I'm not sure I think any differently about the method I used to achieve the end.  I got out, and that seemed the most important thing.

My life would be very different from then on, and I planned to make the most of it. 

They fell apart again shortly after I left.  Unable to keep the lights on and pay the rent, they were forced to move, with my sister, out to Mayport.  This would put them closer to my father's work, and he was able to secure a small loan from the man who employed him to get them set up in a condo.  Shortly after they moved in, my sister made her own arrangements to move out, also at 16.  We had made our exodus, and the financial weight we lifted from our parents shoulders seemed to actually do them good.  They cleaned up again, made arrangements to purchase the condo, the first time they had attempted to own a house.  My mother still drank, but it seemed my father had called an end to the cocaine supply again.  Without another supply, without a job, and having developed what appeared to be an extreme anxiety disorder that manifested in agoraphobia, my mother had no choice but to clean up as well.  There was always a 5th of Vodka though.
Title: Re: A Pickled Past: The Brief History of a Doomed Cucumber
Post by: The Great Pope of OUTSIDE on September 29, 2010, 03:14:16 AM
All this before you're even an adult? Holy fucking smokes! :O
Title: Re: A Pickled Past: The Brief History of a Doomed Cucumber
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 29, 2010, 06:43:40 PM
Quote from: The Great Pope of OUTSIDE on September 29, 2010, 03:14:16 AM
All this before you're even an adult? Holy fucking smokes! :O

Troof.  This makes me even more grateful to my parents, who were like something out of an idealized 50s TV show, without giving me that entitlement syndrome that's so prevalent today (probably because they kept us long on hugs and short on money).

How I ever turned into the horrible cunt I am is a mystery.
Title: Re: A Pickled Past: The Brief History of a Doomed Cucumber
Post by: Disco Pickle on September 29, 2010, 07:13:18 PM
I entered what would be my last high school half way through my 10th grade year.  When you change schools as often as I did growing up, it's difficult to maintain close friendships, even if the school is just across the city.  While I made no friends from that school that I am still in contact with today, the neighborhood in which I lived and started my working career provided me with a large body of good people to pal around with, and I'm in good contact with nearly everyone I met from that neighborhood today.  

I rarely spoke with my parents.  Some part of me blamed them for their condition and my the circumstances that required me to grow up so much earlier than my peers.  I developed a taste for reading at a young age, and used this to my advantage: I would learn everything I could about addiction, human psychology and sociology, behavioral patterns, etc.

No author on the subjects was excluded.  I dissected Freud with as much gusto as Jung.  Berne, Allport, Erikson, Glasser..  I read them all.  I raided the local library for texts on drugs and their effects, for for stories about people's battle with addictions.  

I wanted an answer to a question: "What would cause two adults with children to develop a pattern of self destruction so profound that it would cause their family to break down less than 20 years from its' inception?"

The answer I eventually came to was addiction, coupled with personality traits that exacerbated the feeling of needing to escape their reality tunnel, even at the expense of their own children.  It wasn't that we weren't loved, we were.  It was that the combination of their own personality deformities with a highly addictive substance created a meeting of two points of chaos that fed on each other and grew seemingly exponentially.

It was at the age of 16 that I acquired my first computer, and the love affair is still strong to this day.  An HP with an i486 processor and a 14.4kbs modem was my introduction to the internet.  I had ambitions to be the first in my family to attend college and resolved to learn as much about computers as I possibly could.  

I saw my sister as often as possible but when you're attending high school in two parts of a very large, spread out city, and working nights to begin to save for college, it becomes difficult to maintain the closeness we had when we lived together.  She stayed in contact with our parents more than me and I would usually get my news from her.  It seemed they had leveled out and were staying on their feet.  Mom's drinking, however, continued to worsen.  She would go through a 5th of vodka every two days.  Around this time my father injured his back, an injury he carries to this day.  The doctor began prescribing pain killers, and my mother began to take them as well.  This was a new combination, and it would prove to be the deadliest combination of all.
Title: Re: A Pickled Past: The Brief History of a Doomed Cucumber
Post by: Aries Gurl on September 29, 2010, 07:14:21 PM
so sad
Title: Re: A Pickled Past: The Brief History of a Doomed Cucumber
Post by: The Great Pope of OUTSIDE on September 29, 2010, 08:18:29 PM
Just a question, how old are you now?
Title: Re: A Pickled Past: The Brief History of a Doomed Cucumber
Post by: Disco Pickle on September 29, 2010, 08:29:27 PM
Quote from: The Great Pope of OUTSIDE on September 29, 2010, 08:18:29 PM
Just a question, how old are you now?

31 as of June

:horrormirth:
Title: Re: A Pickled Past: The Brief History of a Doomed Cucumber
Post by: Juana on September 29, 2010, 08:54:09 PM
Good lord, man. What a childhood. :(
Title: Re: A Pickled Past: The Brief History of a Doomed Cucumber
Post by: The Great Pope of OUTSIDE on September 30, 2010, 03:37:28 AM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on September 29, 2010, 08:29:27 PM
Quote from: The Great Pope of OUTSIDE on September 29, 2010, 08:18:29 PM
Just a question, how old are you now?

31 as of June

:horrormirth:

I just wanted to know so I could contextualize all the information, and get a little perspective on how long the story is and from how far away you're viewing it. Even with all those years, you talk about it like all this happened just yesterday. :(
Title: Re: A Pickled Past: The Brief History of a Doomed Cucumber
Post by: Disco Pickle on October 02, 2010, 07:04:16 AM
this entire god damn story is becoming harder to tell the closer I get to the conclusion.  I felt the need to get it out somewhere, and figured you dicks, for all your opinion on duh world, would let me get it out.  for that, I thank you.


(SPOILER: BRUCE WILLIS IS DEAD)


I'll finish it now quickly for anyone reading and wanting the end game.  

Mom died a year ago on September 17th.  She made it to 49 years of age before her liver failed her.  The combination of opiate pills and excessive amounts of alcohol finally finished her.  

She resembled a pumpkin as she lay in that room..  I tried to convince her that if she could just pull through, then Id gladly put a candle in her mouth and use her as a jack-o-lantern..

she'd have appreciated this joke if she hadn't been dying of liver failure.  She's still the funniest woman I've ever known.

she didn't.   it was the hardest thing I've yet to deal with, even considering everything that came before.

I appreciate you fucks dealing with my life-vomit and not fucking with me about it.  I tried to write it with a thought to the narrative, considering the audience.

Without going into too much more detail than I already have:  My sister and I  are fucking anomalies for children of the 70's generation that were crippled cocaine addicts.  sis is having a hard time with the exit of our mother from the planet.   Her drinking habits ring a bell.

I haven't decided how best to approach this yet.

as for me, well..

I jumped around for a few years career wise, drug wise..    never finished college,  worked in Mexico for two years and ended up falling for a girl..  turns out after she got pregnant, she decided she didn't want to move to the states. (couldn't blame her)

I am back here in the states and currently a 3d design guy for a local low and medium voltage switchgear company only because I taught myself the software in my spare time.

so when Howl jumps on my shit for being a librarian I don't take offense..   FFS man after my childhood how could you take ANYTHING as offense..  

I was a librarian before being a librarian was cool.   :lulz:


how can my talk NOT be influenced by my own experience and triumphs against-all-odds?

DP: never forgets he's an anomaly in the system.  

as fucked up sad as this entire thread might otherwise be to anyone else reading it, I assure you that I spend every day being awesome.  Or at the least, doing my best.

I would be perfectly OK if a MOD just locked this thread after this post.

thanks for reading PD.

FTR: I embraced Absurdism as a philosophy long before I found you spags..  PD.com is likely just synchronicity.
Title: Re: A Pickled Past: The Brief History of a Doomed Cucumber
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 02, 2010, 07:08:23 PM
Wow... that was an intense story. Thank you for sharing it with us.
Title: Re: A Pickled Past: The Brief History of a Doomed Cucumber
Post by: Disco Pickle on October 02, 2010, 09:36:24 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 02, 2010, 07:08:23 PM
Wow... that was an intense story. Thank you for sharing it with us.

i had to leave out the last 10 years.  shit was just too much to recall and put down.

hope it helps anyone thinking that life is a bitch and maybe needed some perspective on how it could have been worse.

it's all, of course, subjective...
Title: Re: A Pickled Past: The Brief History of a Doomed Cucumber
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 02, 2010, 09:43:20 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 02, 2010, 09:36:24 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 02, 2010, 07:08:23 PM
Wow... that was an intense story. Thank you for sharing it with us.

i had to leave out the last 10 years.  shit was just too much to recall and put down.

hope it helps anyone thinking that life is a bitch and maybe needed some perspective on how it could have been worse.

it's all, of course, subjective...

My childhood was worse. Life is still a bitch. It's not so bad now, but it's still a bitch ATM.

But it was still an excellent and very moving story, and provided an insight into the kind of strong and most likely very mature person you are.