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Principia Discordia => Aneristic Illusions => Topic started by: Prince Glittersnatch III on October 20, 2010, 03:43:46 AM

Title: Inb4 Trade War
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on October 20, 2010, 03:43:46 AM
China has stopped exporting rare earth materials to America in retaliation to a US government investigation of illegal Chinese subsidies:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/20/business/global/20rare.html?_r=2&hp=&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1287514868-FKgXcf7WZdAy8sCTRJUR6g

Title: Re: Inb4 Trade War
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 03:44:55 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on October 20, 2010, 03:43:46 AM
China has stopped exporting rare earth materials to America in retaliation to a US government investigation of illegal Chinese subsidies:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/20/business/global/20rare.html?_r=2&hp=&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=
1287514868-FKgXcf7WZdAy8sCTRJUR6g



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Obama won't have the stones to react.
Title: Re: Inb4 Trade War
Post by: Elder Iptuous on October 20, 2010, 03:47:56 AM
aren't all the raw materials like that traded on international bourses anyways?
seems kind of hollow if that is the case...
Title: Re: Inb4 Trade War
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 03:49:17 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on October 20, 2010, 03:47:56 AM
aren't all the raw materials like that traded on international bourses anyways?
seems kind of hollow if that is the case...

China makes 90% of rare earth supplies.
Title: Re: Inb4 Trade War
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 03:52:54 AM
Of course, South Africa is SWIMMING in that shit, and it's about time they caught a break.
Title: Re: Inb4 Trade War
Post by: Elder Iptuous on October 20, 2010, 03:53:05 AM
really?
huh.  that does supplies me!  :lol:
i knew they were big, but not in *that* ballpark.

link-o for edumacation?
Title: Re: Inb4 Trade War
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 03:54:42 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on October 20, 2010, 03:53:05 AM
really?
huh.  that does supplies me!  :lol:
i knew they were big, but not in *that* ballpark.

link-o for edumacation?

First hit on google:

http://www.technologyreview.com/energy/26538/
Title: Re: Inb4 Trade War
Post by: Golden Applesauce on October 20, 2010, 05:03:49 AM
Now, I just heard this in a student lounge, so I could be wrong, but:

The US does have significant rare earth deposits.  But because it was so much cheaper to mine in China, where they don't pretend half as well as we do to have mining safety regs, the US mines closed rather than be undercut.  If that's true, then when/as the prices rise back to where it's profitable to run the US mines, we should see production increase (and local production at that.)
Title: Re: Inb4 Trade War
Post by: Cain on October 20, 2010, 02:47:22 PM
That Japanese discovery is looking pretty timely, isn't it?
Title: Re: Inb4 Trade War
Post by: Adios on October 20, 2010, 04:29:48 PM
Isn't Afghanistan mineral rich?
Title: Re: Inb4 Trade War
Post by: Cain on October 20, 2010, 04:32:30 PM
Supposedly.  Said information came from a Soviet survey, done during the occupation of Afghanistan, when they were losing.  Coincidentally, this report is found again when the US is occupying Afghanistan, and losing.

It's not like the Soviets or US haven't made up complete bullshit before simply to justify a continuing occupation.
Title: Re: Inb4 Trade War
Post by: Adios on October 20, 2010, 04:41:18 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 20, 2010, 04:32:30 PM
Supposedly.  Said information came from a Soviet survey, done during the occupation of Afghanistan, when they were losing.  Coincidentally, this report is found again when the US is occupying Afghanistan, and losing.

It's not like the Soviets or US haven't made up complete bullshit before simply to justify a continuing occupation.

Yeah, good point.
Title: Re: Inb4 Trade War
Post by: Jenne on October 20, 2010, 04:43:36 PM
Eh...there've been geological surveys more recent than the 80's from the former USSR, though. (since '06)

http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/report-afghanistan-sitting-on-goldmine-literally/19514874

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/asia/14minerals.html?_r=1&hp

...but I still don't see this as being anything but another stick to beat Afghans over their heads with (if you want to know how they react to that, see the last 70 years of Afghan history).

Although, apparently, Karzai said Japan had first dibs on the mineral rights to Afghanistan's mines?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/20/japan-has-priority-on-rig_n_618545.html
Title: Re: Inb4 Trade War
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on October 20, 2010, 05:39:03 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 03:54:42 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on October 20, 2010, 03:53:05 AM
really?
huh.  that does supplies me!  :lol:
i knew they were big, but not in *that* ballpark.

link-o for edumacation?

First hit on google:

http://www.technologyreview.com/energy/26538/


Quoterare earths, which are crucial for a wide range of technologies, including hard drives, solar panels, and motors for hybrid vehicles.

Its official. China is trying to kill us with Global Warming.
Title: Re: Inb4 Trade War
Post by: Jenne on October 21, 2010, 12:19:54 AM
Hm...and we just went solar this week.