http://slatest.slate.com/id/2273690/entry/11/
QuoteOklahoma's amendment, which also banned the use of international law in judicial decision-making, might force Oklahoma judges to ignore all laws that were conceived on foreign soil... "I would like to see Oklahoma politicians explain if this means that the courts can no longer consider the Ten Commandments. Isn't that a precept of another culture and another nation?" a University of Oklahoma law professor said.
"The result of this is that judges aren't going to know when and how they can look at sources of American law that were international law in origin. ... Many of us who understand the law are scratching our heads this morning, laughing so we don't cry."
:lulz:
Excellent job, Oklahoma. :lulz:
LOL, I suppose that includes English common law also. :lulz:
Oh, this is fucking rich.
:lulz:
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on November 04, 2010, 07:38:47 PM
http://slatest.slate.com/id/2273690/entry/11/
QuoteOklahoma's amendment, which also banned the use of international law in judicial decision-making, might force Oklahoma judges to ignore all laws that were conceived on foreign soil... "I would like to see Oklahoma politicians explain if this means that the courts can no longer consider the Ten Commandments. Isn't that a precept of another culture and another nation?" a University of Oklahoma law professor said.
"The result of this is that judges aren't going to know when and how they can look at sources of American law that were international law in origin. ... Many of us who understand the law are scratching our heads this morning, laughing so we don't cry."
Um. Did they just ban Common law? Seriously?
Apparently they didn't ban Common law, there's an exception in there.
They did ban all treaties with foreign nations though, so if you plan on setting up any torrent sites Oklahoma is the place to be.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on November 04, 2010, 07:38:47 PM
http://slatest.slate.com/id/2273690/entry/11/
Your link rotted already. Now it says that Ozzy Osbourne is a mutant.
Two replacements --
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700078840/Oklahoma-lawsuit-filed-against-amendment-banning-Islamic-law.html
http://www.examiner.com/populist-in-national/oklahoma-voters-may-have-accidentally-outlawed-the-10-commandments
Quote from: Requia ☣ on November 05, 2010, 01:26:01 AM
Apparently they didn't ban Common law, there's an exception in there.
They did ban all treaties with foreign nations though, so if you plan on setting up any torrent sites Oklahoma is the place to be.
They sound like the tards in some of our papers over here who whine about the "foreign" laws...which are voted on by our Parliament and passed into UK law, just like any other legislation.
So I'm curious, considering there are I think 7 remaining reservations still in Oklahoma and those reservations are goverened by Tribal Law and not state law and Oklahoma has banned foriegn treaties.....
.....then Oklahoma has just broken the treaties with these tribes, which can be construed as an act of war?
I'm not sure on this, but I think treaties with tribes and tribal laws are considered domestic laws in the US (they are after all US citizens).
Quote from: Requia ☣ on November 05, 2010, 01:26:01 AM
Apparently they didn't ban Common law, there's an exception in there.
They did ban all treaties with foreign nations though, so if you plan on setting up any torrent sites Oklahoma is the place to be.
How.... how is that possible? How is it enforced? How
:asplode:
Quote from: Requia ☣ on November 05, 2010, 02:06:34 PM
I'm not sure on this, but I think treaties with tribes and tribal laws are considered domestic laws in the US (they are after all US citizens).
No, tribal laws are not domestic laws. Reservations govern themselves, the state has no juridiction. Federal can force juridiction but.... it's debatable.
QuoteArticle I, Section 8 of the Constitution states that "Congress shall have the power to regulate Commerce with foreign nations and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes",[2] determining that Indian tribes were separate from both the federal and state governments, and
The Fourteenth Amendment, Section 2 amends the apportionment of representatives in Article I, Section 2 above.[3]
These basic provisions have been changed and/or clarified by various federal laws over the history of the United States. Regulate, historically means facilitate. Therefore, the Congress of these United States was to be the facilitator of commerce between the states and the tribes.[4] States maintain a singular sovereignty which the tribes themselves do not maintain as 'Domestic Dependent Nations'.
However, Domestic only refers to the fact that these nations exist within the United States.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 05, 2010, 02:31:45 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on November 05, 2010, 01:26:01 AM
Apparently they didn't ban Common law, there's an exception in there.
They did ban all treaties with foreign nations though, so if you plan on setting up any torrent sites Oklahoma is the place to be.
How.... how is that possible? How is it enforced? How
:asplode:
Fortunately, no-one gives a fuck whether Oklamhoma is the signatory to any international treaties, the same way no-one cares that the County of Yorkshire is not a signatory to the Kyoto Protocols, that Moscow Oblast has not ratified the Geneva Conventions and that the city of Calais does not diplomatically recognize Iceland.
It would be funny if all future treaties are signed something like:
Russian Federation, Republic of France, and 49/50s of the United States of America
Quote from: Cain on November 05, 2010, 04:14:36 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 05, 2010, 02:31:45 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on November 05, 2010, 01:26:01 AM
Apparently they didn't ban Common law, there's an exception in there.
They did ban all treaties with foreign nations though, so if you plan on setting up any torrent sites Oklahoma is the place to be.
How.... how is that possible? How is it enforced? How
:asplode:
Fortunately, no-one gives a fuck whether Oklamhoma is the signatory to any international treaties, the same way no-one cares that the County of Yorkshire is not a signatory to the Kyoto Protocols, that Moscow Oblast has not ratified the Geneva Conventions and that the city of Calais does not diplomatically recognize Iceland.
This decision by OK is not going to make a ripple internationally. Cain is right, no one cares. However, locally and within the Tribal Nations... oh yes, it is and will.
HahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!
I'm hoping the next decade will be even hilariouser!
I am seriously waiting for a State to go so far that Federal intervention becomes necessary. I think that will be fucking HILARIOUS. Gonna happen in the next eight years, I guarantee it, and probably sooner than later.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 05, 2010, 08:08:15 PM
I am seriously waiting for a State to go so far that Federal intervention becomes necessary. I think that will be fucking HILARIOUS. Gonna happen in the next eight years, I guarantee it, and probably sooner than later.
If Obama loses in 2012, the teabaggers won't be able to rein the states in without alienating their base. :lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 08:26:17 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 05, 2010, 08:08:15 PM
I am seriously waiting for a State to go so far that Federal intervention becomes necessary. I think that will be fucking HILARIOUS. Gonna happen in the next eight years, I guarantee it, and probably sooner than later.
If Obama loses in 2012, the teabaggers won't be able to rein the states in without alienating their base. :lulz:
Oh my god! That's so true, and so beautiful. I fucking love it.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 05, 2010, 08:30:05 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 08:26:17 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 05, 2010, 08:08:15 PM
I am seriously waiting for a State to go so far that Federal intervention becomes necessary. I think that will be fucking HILARIOUS. Gonna happen in the next eight years, I guarantee it, and probably sooner than later.
If Obama loses in 2012, the teabaggers won't be able to rein the states in without alienating their base. :lulz:
Oh my god! That's so true, and so beautiful. I fucking love it.
The sovereign nation of Tucsonora would like to take this moment to declare its independence.
Pls to continue shoveling the highway money to us, though.
:lulz: BUT AT LEAST THEY GOT RID OF THE NON-EXISTENT SHARIAH LAW IN OKLAHOMA!!!
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 06, 2010, 03:40:08 AM
:lulz: BUT AT LEAST THEY GOT RID OF THE NON-EXISTENT SHARIAH LAW IN OKLAHOMA!!!
Preemptive strikes are important. It is the American Way after all, especially where there is no threat whatsoever involved. :horrormirth:
The Un-Tied States of Fuck Alla Youse