http://news.discovery.com/space/pluto-might-be-bigger-but-eris-is-more-massive.html
(http://blogs.discovery.com/.a/6a00d8341bf67c53ef0133f5c94e51970b-pi)
Analysis by Ian O'Neill
Fri Nov 12, 2010 03:35 AM ET
Which is bigger: Eris or Pluto? (http://news.discovery.com/space/eris-surface-composition-is-very-similar-to-plutos.html) Eris... right? Not so fast.
In 2005, the discovery of dwarf planet Eris started a chain of events that rocked the astronomical community and plutonites alike. Pluto was found to be smaller than Eris, causing the "ninth planet" to be demoted to a dwarf planet and be renamed with a "minor planet designator." (Although "134340 Pluto" does have a certain ring to it.)
The nine planets of the solar system became eight, astronomers argued (http://news.discovery.com/space/plutos-dwarf-planet-family-is-about-to-get-bigger.html), Illinois wrote some nutty laws (http://www.astroengine.com/?p=3969), McDonalds tried to set the record straight (http://news.discovery.com/space/pluto-sponsored-by-mcdonalds.html), schoolkids went wild (http://news.discovery.com/space/planetary-trash-talk.html)... In short, it wasn't pretty.
SLIDE SHOW: How important was the discovery of Eris? It was important enough to be selected as the Discovery News #4 top space story of the decade. (http://news.discovery.com/space/top-10-space-stories-decade.html)But! Last weekend, an extremely rare and exciting event happened, adding yet another twist in the "Is Pluto a planet?" debate. Eris drifted silently through the outermost reaches of the solar system, blocking the light from a single star, an event known as an "occultation."
Although the event was predicted by astronomers, there was some uncertainty about who would get the best view -- this is, after all, the first time an occultation has been used to measure an object so distant (Eris is twice as far away from the sun as Pluto). All they knew was that the occultation would be visible from somewhere in South America.
Right on time, the dwarf planet Eris blocked the star from view and three telescopes in Chile witnessed the star's disappearance.
The starlight blinked out for 27 seconds at the La Silla Observatory, located at the southernmost edge of the Atacama Desert. 740 kilmeters (460 miles) north, two telescopes at the San Pedro de Atacama Celestial Explorations (SPACE) Observatory saw the dwarf planet block out starlight for 78 seconds.
Now, as astronomers know the orbital velocity of Eris, by using the background star as a marker, they could deduce the dwarf planet's diameter.
(The reason why the three telescope sites measured different occultation times is that Eris is spherical and therefore saw the starlight being blocked at different locations across Eris' disk.)
It turns out that Eris could be a lot smaller than previously thought. So small in fact that it is roughly the same size as Pluto! It could even be smaller.
"I have to say I find these new occultation measurements extremely exciting," Mike Brown, professor of planetary astronomy at Caltech and discoverer of Eris, told Discovery News.
"While everyone is more interested in the 'mine is bigger than yours' aspect, the real science is the shockingly large density of Eris."
From years of observing the motion of Eris' moon Dysnomia, a very accurate measure of the dwarf planet's mass has been arrived at. When it was thought Eris was larger than Pluto, it was logical to assume that both objects would have similar densities (and therefore similar compositions). However, these new measurements of Eris' size suggest it is smaller, and therefore more dense.
"No one would have predicted that the two largest objects in the Kuiper belt would be about the same size but have significantly different densities," Brown said. "You get big objects by accumulating smaller objects, so even if there is some variation in the smaller objects, by the time you get to the biggest ones you'd expect everything to be smoothed out. This is truly weird."
Occultation measurements are by their nature very accurate, and although more precision is needed before we get a definitive answer, Eris is certainly a lot smaller than it was thought to be.
"Almost certainly Eris has a radius smaller than 1,170 km [727 miles]," Bruno Sicardy, of the Paris Observatory, said in an email to Sky and Telescope Magazine. Pluto has a radius of approximately 1,172 kilometers (728 miles). Pluto therefore has an average density of 2.03 grams/cm3 and Eris has an average density of 2.5 grams/cm3.
These new observations have thrown up more questions than answers.
"Did [Pluto and Eris] come from very different places? Did they have very different histories?" Brown asks. "Something very different has been going on. And I don't know what."
Due to Brown's implication in Pluto's fall from planetary status -- a fact that is clear from the title of his upcoming book "How I Killed Pluto and Why It Had It Coming" -- he added:
Quote"Also, on the mine-is-bigger-than-yours part, it may turn out that Pluto is ever-so-slightly bigger than Eris, but Eris is more massive than Pluto and the entire asteroid belt put together. So there."
So where does this leave Pluto? Or should I say 134340 Pluto?
Addendum: Watch a video of the the occultation (thanks to Nancy at the Universe Today!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxQ0b8p4cGY
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:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :evil: -Telarus, KSC
Pluto (and Eris) is a planet. Fuck astonomical revisionism. My daddy taught me that Pluto was a planet, Sister Margaret Cunnigham taught me Pluto was a planet, and Mr. Malone taught me Pluto was a planet. So there. If it is spherical and doesn't engage in nuclear fusion, good enough for me.
Quote from: Telarus on November 13, 2010, 06:45:52 AM
(The reason why the three telescope sites measured different occultation times is that Eris is spherical and therefore saw the starlight being blocked at different locations across Eris' disk.)
no. it's obviously because it is apple shaped.
Quote from: Telarus on November 13, 2010, 06:45:52 AM
"While everyone is more interested in the 'mine is bigger than yours' aspect, the real science is the shockingly large density of Eris."
obviously composed primarily of gold.
Only tangentially related:
Neils DeGrasse Tyson made a guest appearance on The Big Bang Theory this past week where he was dressed down by Sheldon for demoting Pluto. I stood up and cheered the fictitious occurrence.
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acTUAlLY .. not SURE . then again fairley sure i'z not to interested in starting A new
going along anyway: it looked long & complicated | THUS i skipped to the end | YES: i'LL go back OVER iT
anyway i've begun my summer observations as this appartment has a very nice western Horizon
&I truly do LLUV it | besides my video camcorder broke (sliped a fan belt | and now works only
as a CAM. | thus faces W only | last night from here (Portland OR) there was a 1 min iss ?
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i missed it but was watching inTENTly {hmm?
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he is way to light on generalities | Like North or south | HemisphericaLLy
and way way to heavy on sPacific facts like 1 3 5 7 | odds R I won't TrusT
anuy of them OR their videos.
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REINSTATE PLUTO! REINSTATE PLUTO! FUCKING FASCIST ASSTROPHYSICISTS!
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Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on July 05, 2011, 01:38:35 PM
REINSTATE PLUTO! REINSTATE PLUTO! FUCKING FASCIST ASSTROPHYSICISTS!
Quote from: hirley0 on July 05, 2011, 04:25:28 PM
20110705 8:2? pdT lowLy distancing myself from the REVerEND {bottoms UP ^
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on July 05, 2011, 01:38:35 PM
REINSTATE PLUTO! REINSTATE PLUTO! FUCKING FASCIST ASSTROPHYSICISTS!
RWHN and I like the idea of Pluto being a planet. He often feels more strongly about it than I do.
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on July 05, 2011, 01:38:35 PM
REINSTATE PLUTO! REINSTATE PLUTO! FUCKING FASCIST ASSTROPHYSICISTS!
:mittens:
I think that is the first thing I've ever read from hirley that I actually understood.
Also:
PLUTONIANS REPRESENT!
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on July 05, 2011, 04:30:33 PM
I think that is the first thing I've ever read from hirley that I actually understood.
Also:
PLUTONIANS REPRESENT!
He's been making sense to me lately. But only once he started responding to people's posts. Context perhaps?
It just may, Nephew Twiddleton.
It just may.
What they should do is teach both that Pluto is a planet and is not a planet in public schools and let the children decide for themselves based on the evidence.
That sounds like commie talk to me!
Fuck Science! Pluto is Planet or GTFO!
Is spherical and orbits a star. Good enough for me.
Quote from: Khara on July 05, 2011, 05:35:43 PM
We should start a cult club.
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on July 05, 2011, 04:30:33 PM
PLUTONIANS REPRESENT!
Can one of Cerberus's heads be that of Pluto the Dog this time around?
Sounds good to me.
It would look good on the mugs.
Well then, Ave Pluto, mundus maximus!
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on July 05, 2011, 04:35:56 PM
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on July 05, 2011, 04:30:33 PM
I think that is the first thing I've ever read from hirley that I actually understood.
Also:
PLUTONIANS REPRESENT!
He's been making sense to me lately. But only once he started responding to people's posts. Context perhaps?
It's just sudo code and altcaps, its not that hard to follow, just ignore the parts where he cross posts his matlab code.
Quote from: hirley0 on July 06, 2011, 07:18:52 PM
OUT OF TIME .
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Sorry, panicked for a moment there.
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on July 05, 2011, 05:30:04 PM
That sounds like commie talk to me!
Fuck Science! Pluto is Planet or GTFO!
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/96/SR/PDF/09600SR0046lv.pdf
My comrades, I give you: Illinois' assertion that Pluto is indeed a planet. My state supports Pluto, why doesn't yours?
We sould send sympathetic chicagoans to colonize pluto and then declare itself an independent planet.
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on July 06, 2011, 08:08:34 PM
We sould send sympathetic chicagoans to colonize pluto and then declare itself an independent planet.
It'd be better than colonizing Uranus at least.
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on July 06, 2011, 08:08:34 PM
We sould send sympathetic chicagoans to colonize pluto and then declare itself an independent planet.
This is a brilliant plan.
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on July 06, 2011, 08:10:57 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on July 06, 2011, 08:08:34 PM
We sould send sympathetic chicagoans to colonize pluto and then declare itself an independent planet.
It'd be better than colonizing Uranus at least.
Imma gonna colonize Uranus with my Titan V rocket! Gird up!
Myanus is a hazardous gas giant . Your rocket will be blown away in the winds.
Twid also suddenly wants there to be a planet called Myanus.
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ISS (http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/cities/view.cgi?country=United_States®ion=Oregon&city=Portland)
READ DOWN v BY Fort Night ? Moon-Moon ? maybe
Mon Jul 25/05:18 AM 2 22 10 above SSW 22 above S {4got2look Darn
Tue Jul 26/04:21 AM 3 13 10 above SSE 10 above ESE {same story pm
Sun Jul 31/04:19 AM 2 64 29 above W 38 above NE |/ 19:
Mon Aug 01/04:56 AM 3 31 12 above WNW 26 above NNE {alarm didn't awake
Tue Aug 02/02:27 AM 1 11 11 above ENE 11 above ENE { sleepless
Tue Aug 02/03:59 AM 2 43 26 above WNW 30 above NNE { carrot ?
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Mon Aug 08/04:35 AM(3 36)10 above NW 34 above NE {clouds 3:36 think
Tue Aug 09/05:13 AM 6 89 10 above WNW 11 above ESE {CLOUDS 5:10-16
Wed Aug 10/04:15 AM 6 51 10 above NW 10 above E {4:55 clouds
FULL12-27NEW Moon
Thu Sep 22/06:17 AM 4 60 10 above SW 39 above E best ever
Fri Aug 26/09:26 PM 2 45 27 above NW 31 above ENE {:26-28
Wed Aug 31/09:24 PM 3 20 14 above W 17 above SSW seen \ Not recorded
?18?_the sight time has moved from AM to PM (xpect delay
page begins with NEWS of the loss of the supplys' rocket ? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14653371) ^ read bottom UP ^
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and whats the point in having just one point of view in space | Stereo?
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Cosmic ray hunter installed on space station (http://kgmi.com/pages/9871824.php?)
falling-nasa-sat (http://www.space.com/13018-falling-nasa-satellite-uars-complete-coverage.html)
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s8 P clouds 8am
s15 pink EoP
F14 4:23:12 :fnord:orange Pi (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=5796) :fnord:MBROWN (http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/)
U13 4:08:51 purple?
W12 7:16:02 BROWN
T11 5:14:11 AM TEAL FULL MOON? {Moon was seen (East) 8pm
M10 NAVY? Quiet Clouds
S9 LIME MAROON
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2011/10/plutos-rival-is-tinier-but-shi.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news
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B17 i'LL recline, to avoid the D'bait & oppose BROWN Wed.
T18 Ye'ss`UM: i did look: :fnord:ROSAT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROSAT) RE-ENTERED Oct. 23rd
W19 THE girls sat at a table(s) looking at each other
the guys sat around several tables facing N (the projection screen
U20 Astronomy? when will the 1000Yr parameters be published
F21 -ro :fnord: (http://spaceweather.com/flybys/flybys.php?zip=97205)
s22 should check the end of this thread before i type {oh my
S23 Reply #42 on: October 17, 2011, 07:59:52
M24 Haze /clouds ? Horizon | Watched / did not see ?
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I stand with ND Tyson on this. The Jovian-Terrestrial-dwarf-planetoid classification makes it easier to talk about planetary objects in this and other systems. They're definitions for scientific, not cultural, reasons.
I stand on ND Tyson's neck on this!
Eat rancid space food Astro Boy!
You're all ignoring the only important question:
"Do any of these planets/whatever have Amazon warrior queens from electrical dimension X, who are bent on carrying off Earth's men for use as sex slaves?"
Because if the answer is "no", then who gives a fuck?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 17, 2011, 03:28:35 PM
You're all ignoring the only important question:
"Do any of these planets/whatever have Amazon warrior queens from electrical dimension X, who are bent on carrying off Earth's men for use as sex slaves?"
Because if the answer is "no", then who gives a fuck?
You are not cleared for that information, as you are reportedly in possession of a penis. Negotiations for exactly which males will be exported continue, haggling over the exchange rate is still an issue. (The question of how many interdimensionally powered vibrators per male is a sticking point.)
I have to say that overall this stuff about Eris and Pluto really doesn't phase me all that much. I mean, it's not that big a deal really.
But I have to say I was really sorry to hear about Uranus.
Quote from: The Reverend What's-His-Name? Experience on October 17, 2011, 04:56:16 PM
I have to say that overall this stuff about Eris and Pluto really doesn't phase me all that much. I mean, it's not that big a deal really.
But I have to say I was really sorry to hear about Uranus.
"Faze".
Unless you're talking about the electro-Amazons, in which case "phase" might work. At least I, for one, hope so.
.....and AGAIN AND AGAIN.
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-eris-20111027,0,6101561.story
By Amina Khan, Los Angeles Times
October 27, 2011
Eris, the dwarf planet whose 2005 discovery led to Pluto losing its status as a planet, has passed in front of a star, providing astronomers with the clearest view of it since it was identified.
It is about the same size as Pluto and is one of the brightest objects in the solar system, according to the new analysis, released Wednesday by the journal Nature.
Scientists' picture of Eris had remained fuzzy because its distance from Earth is so vast: It is about three times farther out from the sun than Pluto. Some estimates pegged Eris as about 25% larger than Pluto, but it was too far away to tell for sure.
"It's very difficult, because it's so small in the sky," said lead author Bruno Sicardy, a planetary scientist at Pierre and Marie Curie University and Observatory in Paris.
With such small, far-off objects, astronomers wait for what's known as a stellar occultation, in which the object will cross over a star, essentially casting a shadow over the Earth. The amount of starlight blocked by the object allows scientists to calculate the object's size.
Witnessing this stellar occultation last year required being in the right place at exactly the right moment during the brief time window that Eris was scheduled to block the star.
To spot the star-crossing, Sicardy's team asked telescope operators at 26 different sites around the world to make observations. Just three telescopes at two of those sites, both in Chile, managed to catch the event.
From the data, the researchers were able to calculate that the dwarf planet's diameter is about 1,445 miles — on a par with Pluto, which is somewhere between 1,429 and 1,491 miles across.
The fact that Eris is smaller than previously estimated means that the amount of light scientists had detected coming from it originated from a smaller-than-anticipated surface area — and therefore its surface is brighter than anyone had thought.
In fact, the new calculations make Eris one of the brightest objects in the solar system, even though its surface should have been darkened from bombardment by cosmic rays and micrometeorites.
The authors think its shininess is due to a millimeter-thick layer of methane-and-nitrogen frost coating the dwarf planet's surface. This frost, they say, was probably once an atmosphere 10,000 times thinner than Pluto's that froze onto the surface in the frigid temperatures as Eris traveled away from the sun on its 557-year orbit.
Though they have Eris' size narrowed down, scientists still don't know whether it's smaller or larger than Pluto — because Pluto's size is not known precisely.
But even if Eris ends up being the smaller, "Pluto is never going to go back to being a planet," said Amanda Gulbis, a planetary scientist at the South African Astronomical Observatory who was not involved in the study. "The definition has been set."
Regardless of the question of size, Eris is about 27% heavier than Pluto. This means it must contain relatively more rock and less ice, said Caltech astronomer Mike Brown, whose team discovered Eris in 2005.
This could be because Eris was once a much larger planet whose less dense outer layers were blown off by an impact — much as is thought to have happened with the small but uncommonly heavy Mercury, the sun's closest planet.
"We really think [Eris and Pluto] should have been made at the same time out of the same materials — so really, it's bizarre that they're so different," Brown said.
Quote from: Telarus on October 28, 2011, 12:00:28 PM
But even if Eris ends up being the smaller, "Pluto is never going to go back to being a planet," said Amanda Gulbis, a planetary scientist at the South African Astronomical Observatory who was not involved in the study. "The definition has been set."
O YEAH? WE'LL SEE ABOUT THAT! #OCCUPYSOLARSYSTEM :argh!:
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M10/31 ? 1 2 "3 -4 -5 6 7 8 9 ? Yesterday at 10:32:30 PM
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So will the frozen air just thaw or :?
Quote from: Brian Fnord on October 31, 2011, 06:32:30 AM
So will the frozen air just thaw or :?
Why would it? Wikipedia says its average surface temp is between 30 and 56 degrees K and its perihelion is 37.77 AU. In other words, fucking cold and fucking far.
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 28, 2011, 04:38:05 PM
Quote from: Telarus on October 28, 2011, 12:00:28 PM
But even if Eris ends up being the smaller, "Pluto is never going to go back to being a planet," said Amanda Gulbis, a planetary scientist at the South African Astronomical Observatory who was not involved in the study. "The definition has been set."
O YEAH? WE'LL SEE ABOUT THAT! #OCCUPYSOLARSYSTEM :argh!:
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Quote from: Nph. Twid. on October 31, 2011, 03:07:49 PM
Quote from: Brian Fnord on October 31, 2011, 06:32:30 AM
So will the frozen air just thaw or :?
Why would it? Wikipedia says its average surface temp is between 30 and 56 degrees K and its perihelion is 37.77 AU. In other words, fucking cold and fucking far.
Something else in the sky... or even man made terraforming.
Quote from: Brian Fnord on October 31, 2011, 08:16:46 PM
Quote from: Nph. Twid. on October 31, 2011, 03:07:49 PM
Quote from: Brian Fnord on October 31, 2011, 06:32:30 AM
So will the frozen air just thaw or :?
Why would it? Wikipedia says its average surface temp is between 30 and 56 degrees K and its perihelion is 37.77 AU. In other words, fucking cold and fucking far.
Something else in the sky... or even man made terraforming.
I really don't believe in the feasibility of terraforming Eris. Note that the average surface temp is also sufficient to freeze pretty much anything.
2 LAMAT "astrophysicists" (rabbit\day) 11/25
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24 hr blackout5 AKBAL
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Today at 12:24:42 AM by hirley0 thinks ? Eris ?/? i dont know i must search the web
Eris, formal designation 136199 Eris, is the most massive known dwarf planet
larger than Pluto.
Li6 Eris has an orbital period of 557 years
i was thinking 666 | yeah i'z a B.leaver.
But i was thinking 1000 also see img below {maybe
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but2 i was thinking very massive .12 Sun but smaller than pluto
&I call smaller than P_0 | Planet{neutron star frag) Zero
& it should be around (near Uranus {flips 'Er at times for 110 Y
Li5 Eris was discovered in Cetus
that rings the SiriUS Bell( i must exit XP start 98 } and look
for where cETus is & Sirus also next line 1 hr delay
Li4 Eris was discovered in Cetus
a. more delay 10:23 PM 2012 01/13
b: lOOKII i do NOT trust Astronomers .
c? ESPessuaLLy ones from Berkley
d there are several reasons for this
e i'LL skip these & ask Uranus about
f ERis ? WeLL? ok i look 4 Neptune Next
Li3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/90377_Sedna
i do not want to take the 90277 Route
Using the orbital period of 557.769 years, ...
homepage.mac.com/andjames/PageEris000.htm OR this1
Eris has an orbital period { weLl maybe it did &
Maybe it didn't it could Very Likely be a Varaible
one number some times & another, ANOTHER
Li2 ETA. I should have mentioned that Eris has an even more exotic orbit.
http://forums.randi.org/archive/index.php/t-208803.html
Li1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuiper_belt
Now it makes sence | so back to Cetus 2h-10
Southern Hemisphere near Aquarius and Eridanus.
& Sirius | constellation, Canis Major (Greater Dog)
Right ascension 06h 45m
9:52 PM 2012 01/13 time to exit Xp
Li0 10:06 PM time to add it UP?= IS a good place to look4 Newman ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Eris_Orbit.svg
12:09:26 AM Sience, holds on to a concept of an unchanging Second, omnisiant, omnipresent
omnipotant. MySelf i do "NOT" believe any such ninney crap. for ME the Milli
second is the default unit of time, appearently incomprehensible to computers
time stamp ability, {at least any of mine) Now about Milli 'ER self, unpredictiable
vvariable, never the same from 1 moment to the next, untrustworthy, the list
goes on & on in that fashion. with time as the primary place holder TLM not
MLT or what was the other fasion statment about the foundations of science
2 AHAU {Lord .1 read bottom up My D'bait with their S
1 CAUAC {storm This could be the start of something BIG?
5 akbal :fnord: (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,27356.90/msg,1139735.html)
Quantum Theory
German physicist Max Planck, who postulated in 1900
energy of a quantum of light (called photons) is equal to
the frequency of the light multiplied by a constant (h)
h = 6.626 × 10-34 joule-second in the meter-kilogram-second system
i wiLL rearange{mlt)->(tlm} MKs{lmt)(tml}SKM to{tml} Ms/mg\mM
adjusting my direction(WAY) of thinking ?/?
thus My sYs is Milli second milli Gram milli Meter {Maybe {{MAYbe
& the two maybes are PERM +ea OR +it (1 OR all) the E M Quest M E
the uncertainty principle, formulated by the
German physicist Werner Heisenberg in 1927
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blackout
Fuck Pluto.
Quote from: Queen_Gogira on January 20, 2012, 01:03:54 AM
Fuck Pluto.
5 AKBAL Pr o Miss'es promisses?
http://www.spaceobs.com/ {maybe
http://www.spaceobs.com/teletime/teletime.php {maybe guest
http://www.spaceobs.com/teletime/teletime.php?msg=emailnotvalid {O h 0K
not that funny if U ask me if you can login lemme kNO
http://www.spaceobs.com/teletime/reg/newuser.php
Flash version 9,0 or greater is required
You have no flash plugin installed i am not going that route.
6 KAN ?/?
http://www.eso.org/public/outreach/eduoff/aol/
http://www.eso.org/public/outreach/eduoff/aol/market/
http://www.eso.org/public/outreach/eduoff/aol/market/observation/
Time plays a very important role 1:30 AM ok?
observation/instruments/ (http://www.eso.org/public/outreach/eduoff/aol/market/observation/instruments/)
i007 (http://www.eso.org/public/outreach/eduoff/aol/market/observation/instruments/obs007.html)
Science Users Information > Observing with ESO Telescopes >
Observing Tools and Services > Standard Stars Catalogues
> Landolt Equatorial Standards
2:22 http://www.eso.org/sci/observing/tools/standards/Landolt.html {gif
2:30 http://www.eso.org/sci/observing/tools/standards.html
2:32 http://www.eso.org/sci/observing/tools.html
2:33 http://www.eso.org/sci/observing.html
http://www.eso.org/sci/
it is still 5 AKBAL not for much longer
http://www.chile-usa.org/astronomy.htm
http://www.chile-usa.org/basicinfo.htm
The resource cannot be found.
http://www.windows2universe.org/earth/Life/atacama_desert_life.html
http://www.windows2universe.org/the_universe/the_universe.html
http://www.windows2universe.org/the_universe/Stars/exoplanets.html {wrong way
http://www.windows2universe.org/the_universe/Constellations/constnavi.html
http://www.windows2universe.org/the_universe/Constellations/north_constellations.html
http://www.windows2universe.org/the_universe/Constellations/taurus.html
6 KAN {ripe corn 10:40AM PSt
i much prefer modify to reply | v read down v |
3 IX {jaguar / R1337 Jan 20 ?
BA.aether (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/127185-Why-the-attachment-to-the-aether/page2?s=dfda50c2082faf7e706ee7b09cc57d88) BA.cme7 (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/127462-Solar-flare-CME-today?s=edf266913594e787a893a68b48ce639c&p=1984300#post1984300) BA.lun? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/127779-Laser-lunar-distance-charts?p=1984550&s=b3424f2c96faf5f0c8b6f87709d9dc25&)
13CABAN ok 10^20 H2O on moon 1st ORb ?= 10 days
thus R Question was how deep ?1 weight water / m^3 = 1000 kg/m3
?2 "ANS>Frac"/10 /1000 :kg/m3 ?:= 8.8e17 MeTer^3 ?3 Lunar Surface area
3A 37.8 million square km 3B km^2 = 1000000 m^2 38e6*e6=38e12
p4 8.8e17/38e12 = 24Km of HOH | deepth on day 7 = totally awash .
p5 38e12/8.8e17 = 4e-5 Lunar_Surface/HoH
12CIB/TEAL1405 :fnord: Earth/page3 (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/127872-Mass-of-the-Earth/page3)
TODAYS ? fractions Mass of Earth & Mass of Moon ?/?
because its a fraction ? & Mm < Me Mm on top THUS Mm/Me
7.347 x 10^22 kg / 5.9722 × 10^24 kg | Note to Ti's
Although Mm is on top Me is positioned 1st . thus entry was Right to Left
Rearange characters to fit Ti's thought process 7EE22/6EE24 = .011
? MATH1 FRACT ANS>Frac = 7/600 {Comprenda' Fraction:
part B. 7.61x10^23 kg = Total mass of water in earths ocean? * ANS>Frac =
8.8 x 10^21 Kg | REMember to bring kG along for this. Maybe 20 is OK?
So HaHaHappy to be back {broad spec) |Read 1369}
Read 1396 11 men Just checking nothing to click on:
1 ETZNAB {knife v READ DOWN v
Lack of interest: where was the Moon @ 6pm TBD
TAB2 :fnord: (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/127872-Mass-of-the-Earth/page3)
T2.86 :fnord: (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/127872-Mass-of-the-Earth?p=1992271#post1992271)
3 AHAU Must have skipped a day tbc
Quote from: hirley0 on February 23, 2012, 09:30:18 AM
Lack of interest: where was the Moon @ 6pm TBD
Getting hammered with Titan and Io.
The Moon is a total lush.
2
Yes? Hi: 1:23
#87 :fnord: (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/127872-Mass-of-the-Earth?p=1992702#post1992702)
#165 :fnord: (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,30875.165/msg,1150680.html)
#17 :fnord: (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,31346.15/msg,1148011.html)
Quote from: What's-His-Name? on February 23, 2012, 01:31:18 PM
Quote from: hirley0 on February 23, 2012, 09:30:18 AM
Lack of interest: where was the Moon @ 6pm TBD
Getting hammered with Titan and Io.
The Moon is a total lush.
1:53-1:23=1/2Hr My object is to bend Your Spoon.
nothing more nothing less
Just stay the fuck away from my forks! No one messes with my forks.
Sporks are acceptable though, and his knives and chopsticks are fair game.
My wife would be fine with you fucking up our knives. She's been hounding me to get new ones.
As T 3 (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/127872-Mass-of-the-Earth/page3)
1:55-2 5 min till news
today ERis brings me to the earth Rotation Rate? 24 hours
is this fast (system wise} or slow? how fast is Venus, Mars, etc
Time for a check?
Venus rotates about its axis in the opposite direction to ... 243 Earth days—
by far the slowest rotation period of any outstanding TV on
Quote from: What's-His-Name? on February 24, 2012, 01:31:44 PM
Just stay the fuck away from my forks! No one messes with my forks.
OH wait: thats not spoons: Cav off 1
No telepathic ability | thus i guess its Buy | conflict avoidance on
I guess i just don't understand
from what i see? it looks as though the board time has been revised
THUS this post should be 1 not the othere one
although actually i do not really know
Quote from: What's-His-Name? on February 24, 2012, 01:40:17 PM
My wife would be fine with you fucking up our knives. She's been hounding me to get new ones.
Um? that sounds like the correct thing to do
gerber
i would second the motion in the event this took place
now when was i trying to do that ?
it was 3 AHAU & my guess it 6 min count down
for me thats 6 lines as my
6 rate of entry is LiNE/Min
5 OK Knife ? that was 2 days ago
4 another ETZNAB IN 18 DAYS
3 THIS IS CONFUUSING:
2 THUS then will attempt to bend
1 your old wifes knife at 1:00
0: ?? not 46
:fnord: Script:? (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/Themes/default/scripts/script.js?fin20:968) / :fnord: R3time? (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,30489.15.html) / :fnord: R#23?15|/ (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,30489.15/msg,1151241.html) / Monday2/27 / 5 IK{wind)
today things do NOT work ? 4Me ? clicking the URL or Color feature dont.
entry gets lot of delays besides feature don't. took a very long time
(1/4 after till probably 1/4 till) it was about TIME? My current opinion is now
that the difference is caused by path way delays NOT by virus or TIME .
the reason for this assumption is when i get navy time (today}? yesterday
someentries are exact and some are delayed up to 15 seconds ? by path
so ill check again TIME, Navy ? NoW | cannot load NAVY tme :41 try URL
:fnord: pdxT|/ (http://web.pdx.edu/~pdx00782) AM sure its My Xp time too.
:fnord: NavyT (http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/simpletime.html)
bad day 0:45:45 at 12:45:15 AM edit = 49:00 ? 8:50 at 12:48:47 AM
Edit2 = :55:00 ? 54:48 ?
Sunday 2/26 / 4 IMIX ? TODAY
Mark the beginning {Con) of a new TWENTY day calendar round {Kin)
Post 90 8:27 GMT was entered? however attempting to reach the post
once entered hung my system, upon trying to exit the site & return to PD
i recieve a pop up explaining, in effect that i have lost the ability to:
-
i rather agree /-/owever i'LL try again Later to try to leave something to
find even later than this that OR the other 00:37?46 at 38.0
time check (http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/simpletime.html)
indicates My clock today is 15 seconds behind(slow) when compared
to NAVY. My clock runs fast so clearly since last time checks YESTERDAY
MY CLOCK HAS BEEN RESET {against my desire) OR navy time set ahead
or both | the 12:02:16 suggest to my that BOARD time has been set back
mor than 1/2 hour | most probably by the Enforer of enforced Stupidity?
i refer to as the FIB. SO done so as to create the illusion that the WEB
is wrong & the TV's are correct, that there aRe 4 canDATEs for Republican
President (to oppose WHOsSain} | very funny | that is my assSAYsmint
of the current CONdition. 00:52 =? 12:12 ?/?Edit: Today at 12:51:57AM
= =
it just keeps me wondering ? lets see if between now :55 in the next 5 min
i can actually get todays link entered 2/day (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/127872-Mass-of-the-Earth?p=1993155#post1993155) 0059
I checked the PrincipiaDiscordia.com (Dreamhost) server time with that navy time check link. Our server appears to be about 26 seconds slow compared to the navy time. Of course I only looked at the minutes and seconds part because my timezone is too funky to bother with getting the hours right.