I don't think this is a parody
http://www.goodthink.com/
Check out the manifesto, for staters
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Plan
- Plan on an extraordinary life
- Plan on not settling for less
- Plan to be in the game for a long time
- Plan to follow your dreams
- Plan to keep going when you mess up
- Plan to make a fool of yourself every so often
- Plan to rise above the Mediocrity of your surroundings
- Plan to say yes to opportunities
- Plan to stay off the beaten path
- Plan to take adventurous risks
Know
- Know Karma counts
- Know that you are at your most powerful by being yourself
- Know you are meant to be great
- Know you are training now for something more important later
- Know you can make a difference daily
- Know you have a gift to give to the world
- Know you have an internal compass that is a perfect guide
- Know you still think too small
- Know you win in the end, as long as you play to the best of your ability
- Know your best investment is always in learning
Trust
- Trust everything happens for a reason
- Trust in being brave
- Trust life is very generous to those who follow their dreams
- Trust that "coincidences" and "synchronicities" are hints of some sort
- Trust that your positive actions will always create positive results, seen or unseen
- Trust the only thing that can stop you from accomplishing your master work is fear of failure
- Trust you'll always have enough money as long as you're honoring your dreams
- Trust your efforts are being supported by the universe
- Trust your life is going to get better and better
Refuse
- Refuse to compare your progress to the progress of others
- Refuse to compromise your values
- Refuse to horde money
- Refuse to make choices based on "what others would do"
- Refuse to wait for other's permission, approval, or "go ahead"
Figure
- Figure not everyone will approve of your approach
It gets worse :x
I actually like crap like this.
But that's because i consider it useful bullshit.
...and then we hit this part.
QuoteTo be specific, I gave up red meat, chicken, fish, milk, cheese, ice cream, candy, sugar, soda pop, coffee, canned foods, boxed foods and junk foods. And I shifted to oranges, bananas, avocados, blue berries, peaches, watermelons, mangos, coconuts, dates, honey, raw almonds, raw cashews, raw pistachios, and salads. In a word, I went Raw; that means primarily only uncooked fruits and vegetables - morning, afternoon, and night. Fruit shakes galore. Lucille Ball probably would have called my new way of eating "FruitaNutaVeggamin.
Quote from: Placid Dingo on November 17, 2010, 01:47:19 PM
I actually like crap like this.
But that's because i consider it useful bullshit.
QuoteTrust that "coincidences" and "synchronicities" are hints of some sort
Quote from: Lysergic on November 17, 2010, 01:49:34 PM
Quote from: Placid Dingo on November 17, 2010, 01:47:19 PM
I actually like crap like this.
But that's because i consider it useful bullshit.
QuoteTrust that "coincidences" and "synchronicities" are hints of some sort
Yes, a hint that we evolved in an environment where not being able to make connections, no matter how tenuous or loosely based in reality they may be, could potentially be fatal.
this reminds me of Requiem For a Dream
JUICE BY TAPPY! JUICE BY TAPPY!
but yeah, other than the raw food bit, I basically got through my teens and 20's with this mindset, even at the worst of times. Still basically think this way. I have no complaints.
QuoteTo be specific, I gave up red meat, chicken, fish, milk, cheese, ice cream, candy, sugar, soda pop, coffee, canned foods, boxed foods and junk foods. And I shifted to oranges, bananas, avocados, blue berries, peaches, watermelons, mangos, coconuts, dates, honey, raw almonds, raw cashews, raw pistachios, and salads. In a word, I went Raw; that means primarily only uncooked fruits and vegetables - morning, afternoon, and night. Fruit shakes galore. Lucille Ball probably would have called my new way of eating "FruitaNutaVeggamin.
Your flatulence must be EPIC.
Hoopla
-has known a few raw vegans
Someone's taking it seriously. I'm pretty sure that's a rule of the internet.
I am sensing some one-upmanship in lifestyle choices though...
You know what, though? That's some good conditioning material. Most everything in the manifesto except the "Trust" section is pretty spot on, if you don't want to be a worker bee the rest of your life.
Actually, this is exactly the kind of advice I would give people if I wanted them to remain worker bees for the rest of their life. "You are a unique precious snowflake." "The only thing standing between you and your desires is your lack of will and laziness". "Listen to your gut, not to reason." "Spend spend spend."
Really? Oh.
Freeky,
Doesn't get this psychology crap.
OK, let's put it another way. Conferences and seminars and books with these kind of advice are very common. My dad recently had to buy two particular books espousing a similar philosophy to this, as part of his move to the lower end of upper management.
Now, ask yourselves how many of the people who attend these conferences, read these books and attend these seminars end up truly rich? As far as I can see, the only people getting rich are the people selling this kind of "service".
That's very true. How I was reading it, and I realize that I'm probably a poor example of the population at large, was "Do what makes you HAPPY." The money part never entered my mind, and what did touch on that sort of struck me as false.
Quote from: Subetai on November 17, 2010, 02:55:54 PM
Actually, this is exactly the kind of advice I would give people if I wanted them to remain worker bees for the rest of their life.
This.
I often wonder how people read these books and attend seminars where the answer to success is sitting around imagining yourself in a limousine. The whole "Get Everything For Nothing" culture is such a monumental crock that I almost salute them for pulling it off, considering its so transparently false.
Cain hit the nail right on the head, does it ever occur to these people in the seminars that this same seminar was held last year, probably in this same hall, and did those 1200 people all become rich and successful? Ok, what about half? Or a third? Any?!
This mindset is how drones are formed.
Quote from: Freeky on November 17, 2010, 03:05:14 PM
Really? Oh.
Freeky,
Doesn't get this psychology crap.
As far as I can tell, the advice in the OP boils down to, "Good things will happen to you if you expect them to."
I'm thinking better advice would be something along the lines of, "Everything's gonna go to shit unless you get off your ass and
do something about it."
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on November 17, 2010, 03:14:14 PM
Quote from: Freeky on November 17, 2010, 03:05:14 PM
Really? Oh.
Freeky,
Doesn't get this psychology crap.
As far as I can tell, the advice in the OP boils down to, "Good things will happen to you if you expect them to."
I'm thinking better advice would be something along the lines of, "Everything's gonna go to shit unless you get off your ass and do something about it."
Yeah. :oops:
Quote from: Subetai on November 17, 2010, 03:08:27 PM
OK, let's put it another way. Conferences and seminars and books with these kind of advice are very common. My dad recently had to buy two particular books espousing a similar philosophy to this, as part of his move to the lower end of upper management.
Now, ask yourselves how many of the people who attend these conferences, read these books and attend these seminars end up truly rich? As far as I can see, the only people getting rich are the people selling this kind of "service".
I'll play devil's advocate a bit here. While you're right that a small percentage of these people end up rich, I have to call foul on the implication that that's the sole purpose of that sort of book. Dale Carnegie's books had and continue to have use in helping salesmen be better salesmen and managers be better managers of the people who work under them, but to say that books like "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People" doesn't answer an obvious need in society for adults to continue learning better ways to manage their life (and for many, books like this are their first lessons if their parents were just not ever involved) is disingenuous IMO.
I'd even go as far to suggest that in an age where face to face social interaction is increasingly less frequent in newer generations, that books and courses like these will be even more valuable.
wanting to be successful at life and crisis management will give you a good foundation to allow people to become rich if that's their goal, but you can want to be a successful (whatever that means to you) human without wanting to be rich, and ideas like these can help people who otherwise have no teachers.
Quote from: Freeky on November 17, 2010, 03:17:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on November 17, 2010, 03:14:14 PM
Quote from: Freeky on November 17, 2010, 03:05:14 PM
Really? Oh.
Freeky,
Doesn't get this psychology crap.
As far as I can tell, the advice in the OP boils down to, "Good things will happen to you if you expect them to."
I'm thinking better advice would be something along the lines of, "Everything's gonna go to shit unless you get off your ass and do something about it."
Yeah. :oops:
Having lived both sides of it however, the first one makes you
feel a lot better, on average.
But see, I DO agree with a lot of this, in terms of the "chase your dreams" aspect. Tightened up, a few things subtracted, and a few things added in, it could easily say "Hey, you can accomplish things, but it's going to take hard fucking work and a lot of determination." Or is that the same thing?
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on November 17, 2010, 03:21:47 PM
Quote from: Freeky on November 17, 2010, 03:17:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on November 17, 2010, 03:14:14 PM
Quote from: Freeky on November 17, 2010, 03:05:14 PM
Really? Oh.
Freeky,
Doesn't get this psychology crap.
As far as I can tell, the advice in the OP boils down to, "Good things will happen to you if you expect them to."
I'm thinking better advice would be something along the lines of, "Everything's gonna go to shit unless you get off your ass and do something about it."
Yeah. :oops:
Having lived both sides of it however, the first one makes you feel a lot better, on average.
Yeah, I can see that easily. The pessimism is more realistic, though.
Maybe it's just me, but that doesn't feel like pessimism.
"Going to Shit" is a natural state. Pessimism to me would be "Everything's gonna go to shit, no matter what you do about it."
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on November 17, 2010, 03:30:42 PM
Maybe it's just me, but that doesn't feel like pessimism.
"Going to Shit" is a natural state. Pessimism to me would be "Everything's gonna go to shit, no matter what you do about it."
I guess that's true. It's still realistic (and depressing).
It's SCIENCE!
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:magick:
No, really. It's science. Entropy, and all that.
Quote from: Freeky on November 17, 2010, 03:32:50 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on November 17, 2010, 03:30:42 PM
Maybe it's just me, but that doesn't feel like pessimism.
"Going to Shit" is a natural state. Pessimism to me would be "Everything's gonna go to shit, no matter what you do about it."
I guess that's true. It's still realistic (and depressing).
I think of it more as empowerment. This nicely dovetails into BIP and TFY,S
Even if the world is going to shit around you, you can at least try to build a forcefield for you and your family, and maybe, just maybe make it big enough to encompass a good chunk of your world.
We can't kill The Machine, but maybe if we can change a cog here and there, we can at least make a slight shift in its navigation. Or at the very least, make the part of The Machine we live in a little more lubricated for smoother and safer action.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on November 17, 2010, 03:54:06 PM
Quote from: Freeky on November 17, 2010, 03:32:50 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on November 17, 2010, 03:30:42 PM
Maybe it's just me, but that doesn't feel like pessimism.
"Going to Shit" is a natural state. Pessimism to me would be "Everything's gonna go to shit, no matter what you do about it."
I guess that's true. It's still realistic (and depressing).
I think of it more as empowerment. This nicely dovetails into BIP and TFY,S
Even if the world is going to shit around you, you can at least try to build a forcefield for you and your family, and maybe, just maybe make it big enough to encompass a good chunk of your world.
We can't kill The Machine, but maybe if we can change a cog here and there, we can at least make a slight shift in its navigation. Or at the very least, make the part of The Machine we live in a little more lubricated for smoother and safer action.
:lmnuendo: