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Principia Discordia => Aneristic Illusions => Topic started by: Cain on November 17, 2010, 02:26:45 PM

Title: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed no longer getting a trial
Post by: Cain on November 17, 2010, 02:26:45 PM
Rule of Law!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/12/AR2010111207508.html?hpid=moreheadlines

QuoteKhalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-proclaimed mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, will probably remain in military detention without trial for the foreseeable future, according to Obama administration officials.

The administration has concluded that it cannot put Mohammed on trial in federal court because of the opposition of lawmakers in Congress and in New York. There is also little internal support for resurrecting a military prosecution at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The latter option would alienate liberal supporters. . . .

The White House has made it clear that President Obama will ultimately make the decision, and a federal prosecution of Mohammed and four alleged co-conspirators has not been ruled out, senior officials said. Still, they acknowledge that a trial is unlikely to happen before the next presidential election and, even then, would require a different political environment.

So if the Dems somehow regain a supermajority, which is about as likely as David Cameron declaring his undying man-love for Colonel Gaddafi on the news tonight, then they may consent to a trial.  Maybe.  If the Teabaggers promise not to whine too much.

Heh, it's a good thing America isn't like those third world dictatorships, where the outcomes or even possibility of politically sensitive trials are dependent on the whims of the leaders.
Title: Re: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed no longer getting a trial
Post by: E.O.T. on November 18, 2010, 12:13:44 AM


http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/11/13/myanmar.reaction/index.html?eref=edition

          In a statement released Saturday, President Barack Obama called Suu Kyi a personal "hero" and called for the military regime to "release all political prisoners, not just one."
"The United States looks forward to the day when all of Burma's people are free from fear and persecution," Obama said in Saturday's statement.
Title: Re: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed no longer getting a trial
Post by: The Johnny on November 18, 2010, 12:32:16 AM

Of course, as long as they're not terrorists or commies.
Title: Re: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed no longer getting a trial
Post by: East Coast Hustle on November 18, 2010, 12:39:44 AM
DAMN SAND NAGS DON'T DESERVE OUR FREEDOMS!
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Title: Re: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed no longer getting a trial
Post by: Pope Lecherous on November 18, 2010, 01:27:01 AM
Quote from: Subetai on November 17, 2010, 02:26:45 PM
Rule of Law!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/12/AR2010111207508.html?hpid=moreheadlines

QuoteKhalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-proclaimed mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, will probably remain in military detention without trial for the foreseeable future, according to Obama administration officials.

The administration has concluded that it cannot put Mohammed on trial in federal court because of the opposition of lawmakers in Congress and in New York. There is also little internal support for resurrecting a military prosecution at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The latter option would alienate liberal supporters. . . .

The White House has made it clear that President Obama will ultimately make the decision, and a federal prosecution of Mohammed and four alleged co-conspirators has not been ruled out, senior officials said. Still, they acknowledge that a trial is unlikely to happen before the next presidential election and, even then, would require a different political environment.

So if the Dems somehow regain a supermajority, which is about as likely as David Cameron declaring his undying man-love for Colonel Gaddafi on the news tonight, then they may consent to a trial.  Maybe.  If the Teabaggers promise not to whine too much.

Heh, it's a good thing America isn't like those third world dictatorships, where the outcomes or even possibility of politically sensitive trials are dependent on the whims of the leaders.

we should drop the charade and just blast homeboy in the face on pay per view...  i mean, it's just becoming too difficult to pretend to be the moral authority of the world.

we can have "idiocracy" here and now in 2010. has anyone considered ending the hypocrisy of being half-assed good guys?  let's just be a nation of bad guys.

:retard:
Title: Re: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed no longer getting a trial
Post by: East Coast Hustle on November 18, 2010, 01:39:10 AM
I've been a nation of bad guys for years.
Title: Re: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed no longer getting a trial
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 18, 2010, 01:42:20 AM
Quote from: First City Hustle on November 18, 2010, 01:39:10 AM
I've been a nation of bad guys for years.

I've been a nation of fur in my cap fur-fur in my cap as long as I can remember.
Title: More "rule of law" fun!
Post by: Cain on November 18, 2010, 06:57:27 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/18/nyregion/18ghailani.html

tl;dr version:

Ghailani is acquitted in court of 284 of the 285 charges against him, including the charges on which his status as an Unlawful Enemy Combatant is based.

So, naturallly, Obama isnt going to release him, because he still presents a terrorist threat.
Title: Re: More "rule of law" fun!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 18, 2010, 07:08:32 PM
Quote from: Subetai on November 18, 2010, 06:57:27 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/18/nyregion/18ghailani.html

tl;dr version:

Ghailani is acquitted in court of 284 of the 285 charges against him, including the charges on which his status as an Unlawful Enemy Combatant is based.

So, naturallly, Obama isnt going to release him, because he still presents a terrorist threat.

CHANGE!
Title: Re: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed no longer getting a trial
Post by: Telarus on November 19, 2010, 01:08:59 AM
 :x
Title: Re: More "rule of law" fun!
Post by: Requia ☣ on November 19, 2010, 01:18:32 AM
Quote from: Subetai on November 18, 2010, 06:57:27 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/18/nyregion/18ghailani.html

tl;dr version:

Ghailani is acquitted in court of 284 of the 285 charges against him, including the charges on which his status as an Unlawful Enemy Combatant is based.

So, naturallly, Obama isnt going to release him, because he still presents a terrorist threat.

Isn't he likely to be sentenced to 20 years anyway on the one charge he was convicted of?
Title: Re: More "rule of law" fun!
Post by: Pope Lecherous on November 19, 2010, 01:29:02 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on November 19, 2010, 01:18:32 AM
Quote from: Subetai on November 18, 2010, 06:57:27 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/18/nyregion/18ghailani.html

tl;dr version:

Ghailani is acquitted in court of 284 of the 285 charges against him, including the charges on which his status as an Unlawful Enemy Combatant is based.

So, naturallly, Obama isnt going to release him, because he still presents a terrorist threat.

Isn't he likely to be sentenced to 20 years anyway on the one charge he was convicted of?

you know it won't happen.  they'll just send his ass back to gtmo.

PL,
hungry for action, hungry for blood, hell... just plain ol' hungry
Title: Re: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed no longer getting a trial
Post by: Cain on November 19, 2010, 06:38:26 AM
Requia, yeah.

The judge outright said though,

Quote[Ghailani's] status as an "enemy combatant" probably would permit his detention as something akin to a prisoner of war until hostilities between the United States and Al Qaeda and the Taliban end even if he were found not guilty in this case.

So no doubt they will dump in the Super-Max prison for 14 years (he's already done six in Gitmo) and then, when his time is up, he will be thrown back in Gitmo, or whichever other black site is being prepped to take on the new kids, like Bagram.
Title: Re: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed no longer getting a trial
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 19, 2010, 07:47:22 AM
Quote from: E.O.T. on November 18, 2010, 12:13:44 AM


http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/11/13/myanmar.reaction/index.html?eref=edition

          In a statement released Saturday, President Barack Obama called Suu Kyi a personal "hero" and called for the military regime to "release all political prisoners, not just one."
"The United States looks forward to the day when all of Burma's people are free from fear and persecution," Obama said in Saturday's statement.


Oh, the bitter irony of hypocrisy.

Title: Re: More "rule of law" fun!
Post by: geekdad on November 19, 2010, 08:56:43 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 18, 2010, 07:08:32 PM
Quote from: Subetai on November 18, 2010, 06:57:27 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/18/nyregion/18ghailani.html

tl;dr version:

Ghailani is acquitted in court of 284 of the 285 charges against him, including the charges on which his status as an Unlawful Enemy Combatant is based.

So, naturallly, Obama isnt going to release him, because he still presents a terrorist threat.

CHANGE!


I used to be a big Obama supporter, but your post broke the straw on that camel's back.

Thanks.
Title: Re: More "rule of law" fun!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 19, 2010, 03:33:32 PM
Quote from: geekdad on November 19, 2010, 08:56:43 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 18, 2010, 07:08:32 PM
Quote from: Subetai on November 18, 2010, 06:57:27 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/18/nyregion/18ghailani.html

tl;dr version:

Ghailani is acquitted in court of 284 of the 285 charges against him, including the charges on which his status as an Unlawful Enemy Combatant is based.

So, naturallly, Obama isnt going to release him, because he still presents a terrorist threat.

CHANGE!


I used to be a big Obama supporter, but your post broke the straw on that camel's back.

Thanks.

It is the job of a Holy Man™ to set you back on the straight and narrow.