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Principia Discordia => Aneristic Illusions => Topic started by: Prince Glittersnatch III on November 27, 2010, 09:27:44 AM

Title: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on November 27, 2010, 09:27:44 AM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/homeland-security-shuts-dozens-sites/

:x
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on November 27, 2010, 09:37:41 AM
(http://i55.tinypic.com/8zi9a0.jpg)

Screenshot
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Cain on November 27, 2010, 03:22:01 PM
The NSA has already been given the authority to carry out offensive cyberwarfare operations around the globe.
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Requia ☣ on November 27, 2010, 04:08:43 PM
The screenshot seems to disagree with the 'no warrant' part of the story.
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Kai on November 27, 2010, 07:35:11 PM
One of the comments:

QuoteNSA is protecting us from copyright infringement. This is great news. Where do I turn in my federal reserve notes?

:lulz:
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Jasper on November 27, 2010, 07:50:39 PM
So much bad scariness from the government lately.  What the hell, it's all happening so fast now.

Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Rumckle on November 27, 2010, 09:57:44 PM
Either it's punishment for not accepting the backscatter machines/groping. Or they are just keep getting away with shit like this, so they don't bother wondering if they are going too far anymore.
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: the last yatto on November 27, 2010, 10:07:44 PM
I wonder how hard it would be to dub braveheart with audio clips from the news
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Jasper on November 27, 2010, 10:21:11 PM
Quote from: Rumckle on November 27, 2010, 09:57:44 PM
Either it's punishment for not accepting the backscatter machines/groping. Or they are just keep getting away with shit like this, so they don't bother wondering if they are going too far anymore.

Ancient legend speaks of a terrible beast known only as the Usgov.  It had the power to destroy the world, and the power to give itself more powers.  It mostly used this power to grope vacationers and harass revelers.
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Remington on November 28, 2010, 12:27:39 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on November 27, 2010, 10:21:11 PM
Ancient legend speaks of a terrible beast known only as the Usgov.  It had the power to destroy the world, and the power to give itself more powers.  It mostly used this power to grope vacationers and harass revelers.
:lulz: Sigged.
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Jasper on November 28, 2010, 06:00:12 AM
:D

I love thinking about tribes living in the aftermath of the apocalypse, and their crazy myths based on our doings.
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 28, 2010, 07:40:57 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on November 27, 2010, 07:50:39 PM
So much bad scariness from the government lately.  What the hell, it's all happening so fast now.



I warned you.  I warned you all.

Haw haw, that Roger, he's so delightfully and amusingly paranoid!
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Jasper on November 28, 2010, 08:05:00 PM
I didn't exactly doubt it, I just hoped for something less depressing.
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 28, 2010, 08:06:01 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on November 28, 2010, 08:05:00 PM
I didn't exactly doubt it, I just hoped for something less depressing.

D/N/T the banality of evil.
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Jasper on November 28, 2010, 08:12:57 PM
Much agreed.  The world needs better villains. 
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 28, 2010, 08:18:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 28, 2010, 07:40:57 PM
I warned you.  I warned you all.

Haw haw, that Roger, he's so delightfully and amusingly paranoid!

I know! I have to confess, right now I'm kind of basking in the warm glow of "I told you so". Thanks, government!  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Xieante Antitheus on November 29, 2010, 12:35:44 AM
Since when is linking to an outside site classified as copyright infringement? Wow, what a waste of manpower... I want my taxes returned.


Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Cain on November 29, 2010, 07:28:15 AM
Of course, you realize this means Google is the largest filesharing site in the world now, don't you?

Not that the Feds will care.  Not so long as Google keeps putting backdoors for the NSA (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/01/23/schneier.google.hacking/) into its email service....
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Salty on November 29, 2010, 07:35:56 AM
 :aaa:

WTF MAN?! I love gmail...god dammit!

Are there any secure email clients out there?
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Jasper on November 29, 2010, 07:36:43 AM
redacted.  check PMs.  :)
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Cain on November 29, 2010, 07:39:10 AM
PGP encryption is a good place to start.  I like gmail too, but I wouldn't trust sensitive information to them ever (then again, I also take the dictum "two can keep a secret if one is dead" seriously, so, you know...)
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Salty on November 29, 2010, 07:42:33 AM
Ah well, thank you both.
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Requia ☣ on November 29, 2010, 05:04:34 PM
You know, this is even more disturbing if they got a warrant, given that A) at least one of the sites was upholding the law 100% and B) Said site doesn't appear to have done anything criminal, even if they were infringing, it wasn't a police matter.
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Xieante Antitheus on November 29, 2010, 05:10:22 PM
Since when does ICE have anything to do with copyright infringement?

Or did I miss something???
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Requia ☣ on November 29, 2010, 05:26:16 PM
Quote from: Xieante Antitheus on November 29, 2010, 05:10:22 PM
Since when does ICE have anything to do with copyright infringement?

Or did I miss something???

ICE would handle anything involving a computer, if its actually criminal, wouldn't it?  There are some very specific things that are criminal within copyright infringement, just not any in this specific case that have been mentioned (conceivably, one of the users might have done something like that, which would give them cause to search for that user's info, but even if the site owners had set things up explicitly for copyright infringement they wouldn't be responsible for that).

Reading the fine print in the warrant, the domain name was not listed, they do not actually have a warrant for that, so this is a warrant-less seizure.
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: the last yatto on November 30, 2010, 10:44:13 AM
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/11/us-government-seizes-82-websites-draconian-future
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Requia ☣ on December 02, 2010, 02:35:46 AM
A list of the seized domain names.  http://www.ice.gov/doclib/news/releases/2010/domain_names.pdf
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: the last yatto on December 02, 2010, 07:30:03 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11892142
FCC feels left out
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: Kansai on December 02, 2010, 07:17:41 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on November 27, 2010, 04:08:43 PM
The screenshot seems to disagree with the 'no warrant' part of the story.

The screenshot does provide reason for the shutdown, or at least provides proof that lawful means were undertaken as a warrant was provided.

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 28, 2010, 07:40:57 PM
I warned you.  I warned you all.

Haw haw, that Roger, he's so delightfully and amusingly paranoid!

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee294/Drayasha/Motivational%20Posters/paranoid.jpg)
Title: Re: Homeland security can shut down any site without a reason.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 02, 2010, 08:18:18 PM
Quote from: Kansai on December 02, 2010, 07:17:41 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on November 27, 2010, 04:08:43 PM
The screenshot seems to disagree with the 'no warrant' part of the story.

The screenshot does provide reason for the shutdown, or at least provides proof that lawful means were undertaken as a warrant was provided.

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 28, 2010, 07:40:57 PM
I warned you.  I warned you all.

Haw haw, that Roger, he's so delightfully and amusingly paranoid!

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee294/Drayasha/Motivational%20Posters/paranoid.jpg)

Fuck off.  :)

TGRR,
Doesn't know you, and doesn't want to know you.