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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: AFK on December 20, 2010, 05:39:04 PM

Title: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: AFK on December 20, 2010, 05:39:04 PM
So it's the end of the year.  That time-honored tradition where news media outlets look back at the new stories they fabricated, sensationalized, or otherwise blew out of proportion.  They also like to make lists and retrospectives.  Like for example, notable people/celebrities who kicked the bucket.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40574724/displaymode/1247/?beginSlide=1

MSNBC.COM just posted a slide-show of 35 notables who died in 2010.  They made sure to remember Gary fuckin Coleman but nowhere is there any mention of one of the most iconic figures in Metal, Ronnie James Dio. 

Yeah I know, just a stupid media outlet, but I think it highlights how Metal as an art form and music genre continues to be discounted in this country.  This is why so many American metal bands will release albums in the States, but do most of their touring in Europe and Asia. 

Anyway, a big F-U! to MSNBC!
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Post by: Suu on December 20, 2010, 05:47:14 PM
Dio. ;_;
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on December 20, 2010, 05:48:44 PM
Who?
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 20, 2010, 05:50:25 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on December 20, 2010, 05:48:44 PM
Who?

He was the lead singer of Black Sabbath for a while, did some solo work, and remained short his entire life.
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on December 20, 2010, 05:53:17 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 20, 2010, 05:50:25 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on December 20, 2010, 05:48:44 PM
Who?

He was the lead singer of Black Sabbath for a while, did some solo work, and remained short his entire life.

Ah! Thanks.
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 20, 2010, 05:54:04 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on December 20, 2010, 05:53:17 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 20, 2010, 05:50:25 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on December 20, 2010, 05:48:44 PM
Who?

He was the lead singer of Black Sabbath for a while, did some solo work, and remained short his entire life.

Ah! Thanks.

He was an inspiration to vertically-challenged men everywhere.
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: AFK on December 20, 2010, 05:58:09 PM
He also brought us the devil horns.  Though Gene Simmons claims he invented it. 

Ozzy-led Black Sabbath got the whole metal ball rolling.  But, for me, it was really Dio, Judas Priest, and Iron Maiden who really gave Metal its direction and I think they largely were responsible for defining the genre.  There are very few voices that were as iconically Metal as Dio's was.   
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 20, 2010, 05:59:01 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 20, 2010, 05:58:09 PM
He also brought us the devil horns.  Though Gene Simmons claims he invented it. 

Ozzy-led Black Sabbath got the whole metal ball rolling.  But, for me, it was really Dio, Judas Priest, and Iron Maiden who really gave Metal its direction and I think they largely were responsible for defining the genre.  There are very few voices that were as iconically Metal as Dio's was.   

You forgot Kip Winger.  :madbanana:
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: AFK on December 20, 2010, 06:03:18 PM
 :x

I suppose I deserve that. 
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 20, 2010, 07:17:51 PM
I'm gonna be Dio next Halloween.
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: hooplala on December 20, 2010, 07:44:52 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 20, 2010, 07:17:51 PM
I'm gonna be Dio next Halloween.

You should just start now.
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 20, 2010, 07:50:59 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 20, 2010, 07:44:52 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 20, 2010, 07:17:51 PM
I'm gonna be Dio next Halloween.

You should just start now.

:lulz:
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: AFK on December 20, 2010, 07:51:20 PM
Seriously,

I mean you are already a real Wild One.

Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 20, 2010, 08:00:20 PM
I am endlessly impressed by Dio's utter lack of charisma, combined with the most oddly "off" fashion sensibility I've ever seen on stage.
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: AFK on December 20, 2010, 08:03:54 PM
Lack of charisma?  Ronnie James Dio?  He is, err was, very humble and unpretentious as rock stars go, but I wouldn't say he lacks, gah lacked, charisma. 

Still hard to remember he's gone.  For a little guy he had a huge presence in metal. 
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: Phox on December 20, 2010, 08:06:26 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 20, 2010, 08:03:54 PM
Lack of charisma?  Ronnie James Dio?  He is, err was, very humble and unpretentious as rock stars go, but I wouldn't say he lacks, gah lacked, charisma. 

Still hard to remember he's gone.  For a little guy he had a huge presence in metal. 

I agree with this.
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 20, 2010, 08:37:39 PM
OK... well, I guess then that he had a particular slightly awkward brand of charisma that didn't work for me or anyone else I know. But what was fascinating was that he made up for his  (in my view) lack of charisma with straight-up talent. His lyrics were unbelievably trite but his voice was incredible.

That, and he generated some of the most fabulously absolute worst music videos ever made.
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: Phox on December 20, 2010, 08:38:40 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 20, 2010, 08:37:39 PM
That, and he generated some of the most fabulously absolute worst music videos ever made.

Oh. Yes. That is most definitely true.  :lulz:
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2010, 02:24:02 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 20, 2010, 08:37:39 PM
That, and he generated some of the most fabulously absolute worst music videos ever made.

Topped only by Billy Squire.  Oh, and the Breakfast Club.
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: AFK on December 21, 2010, 03:01:25 PM
And Savatage.  Savatage are one of my all time favorite metal bands but they made some really horrific videos in the 80s.  I'm at work so the nanny filter won't let me post links to youtube.  But fire up your Youtube and search for "24 Hours Ago", "Hall of the Mountain King", and "Gutter Ballet".

All awesome metal songs, but the videos are awful.  The playing never really matches the audio and some of the imagery is just, well, it's just bad. 
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: Triple Zero on December 23, 2010, 11:17:01 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 21, 2010, 03:01:25 PM"Hall of the Mountain King"

Youtubing that. It can impossibly be non-awesome :) Probably my favourite piece by Grieg (also one of the catchiest)

...

ummm he doesn't actually play the theme tune*? :(

it's a cool song, powerful, but it's not Grieg's Hall of the Mountain King (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrIYT-MrVaI). All of his tracks are pretty cool like this btw. Might have to get more of it, only heard the entire CD once. Another really famous tune by him is Morgenstimmung (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUKRBeG-sGQ) (Morning Mood), pretty sure you must know that one.


(*probably better known by our Dutch members as the tune from the bad gabber track "Ruffneck rules the artcore scene")
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on December 23, 2010, 12:43:37 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 20, 2010, 05:58:09 PM
He also brought us the devil horns.  Though Gene Simmons claims he invented it. 

Ozzy-led Black Sabbath got the whole metal ball rolling.  But, for me, it was really Dio, Judas Priest, and Iron Maiden who really gave Metal its direction and I think they largely were responsible for defining the genre.  There are very few voices that were as iconically Metal as Dio's was.   

Jinx Dawson also claims to be the one who brought Devil Horns. Though she seems to be generally bitter that Sabbath eclipsed Coven's career. I don't see how a British heavy blues band stole any thunder from a couple of Satanic hippies.
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: AFK on December 23, 2010, 01:08:23 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 23, 2010, 11:17:01 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 21, 2010, 03:01:25 PM"Hall of the Mountain King"

Youtubing that. It can impossibly be non-awesome :) Probably my favourite piece by Grieg (also one of the catchiest)

...

ummm he doesn't actually play the theme tune*? :(

it's a cool song, powerful, but it's not Grieg's Hall of the Mountain King (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrIYT-MrVaI). All of his tracks are pretty cool like this btw. Might have to get more of it, only heard the entire CD once. Another really famous tune by him is Morgenstimmung (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUKRBeG-sGQ) (Morning Mood), pretty sure you must know that one.


(*probably better known by our Dutch members as the tune from the bad gabber track "Ruffneck rules the artcore scene")

On the album this song comes from, the track is actually preceded by an instrumental that does use the Grieg piece.  Here, I'm at home so I can properly link you up:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KYtoPOxeOY
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: Triple Zero on December 23, 2010, 02:37:14 PM
Ahhhhh much better, thank you ;-)
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: AFK on December 23, 2010, 04:00:51 PM
Savatage has incorporated classical music on a few occassions:

Mozart and Madness (from Dead Winter Dead) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agU2R5u3df4
Memory (also from Dead Winter Dead) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yIHVQGdCrM&feature=related
*Well, and this is more of a Christmas carol but:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBcmVtSOb60 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBcmVtSOb60)
*Yes, this was a Savatage song before it was a Trans-Siberian Orchestra song.  In fact, it is the same damn recording on the TSO album.  But Savatage never gets any credit for it.   :argh!:
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: Roaring Biscuit! on December 23, 2010, 04:08:56 PM
Dio is now number 31
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: AFK on December 23, 2010, 04:11:38 PM
Perhaps my "suggestion" helped. 

Okay, so now we bitch about the absence of Peter Steele. 
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on December 23, 2010, 05:49:18 PM
I love the whole Peer Gynt suite and I'm still laughing at Roger's "and remained short his entire life"
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: Roaring Biscuit! on December 23, 2010, 05:58:07 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 23, 2010, 04:11:38 PM
Perhaps my "suggestion" helped. 

Okay, so now we bitch about the absence of Peter Steele. 
:lulz:
Title: Re: ITT: I bitch about Ronnie Jame Dio being snubbed by MSNBC.com....
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on December 23, 2010, 10:22:17 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 23, 2010, 04:11:38 PM
Perhaps my "suggestion" helped. 

Okay, so now we bitch about the absence of Peter Steele. 

:cry:
Makes "Red Water" particularly appropriate this Christmas.