http://www.medialens.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=588:qput-the-palestinians-on-a-dietq&catid=1:alerts&Itemid=34
Quotethe dietary needs for the population of Gaza are chillingly calculated, and the amounts of food let in by the Israeli government measured to remain just enough to keep the population alive at a near-starvation level. This documents the statement made by a number of Israeli officials that they are 'putting the people of Gaza on a diet'.
Stay classy, Israel! :lulz:
I seriously can't understand how Americans get all hot and bothered about lining up and supporting Israel. They're a goddamn bully. We get pissed off at North Korea for being a bully. We get pissed off at Iran for being a bully. We scold Russia when they bully Georgians. But goddamn, Israel gets carte blanche to treat Palestinians like dirt.
Oh yeah, that's right, the Palestinians are a little too brown. What was I thinking? :lulz:
So this would be a bad thread to announce the release of my Gaza Diet Video: Bringing You Back to a Slim Figure in Seven Easy Steps and by Embargoing Your House?
Quote from: Cain on December 29, 2010, 01:39:39 PM
So this would be a bad thread to announce the release of my Gaza Diet Video: Bringing You Back to a Slim Figure in Seven Easy Steps and by Embargoing Your House?
:lulz:
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 29, 2010, 01:32:14 PM
I seriously can't understand how Americans get all hot and bothered about lining up and supporting Israel. They're a goddamn bully. We get pissed off at North Korea for being a bully. We get pissed off at Iran for being a bully. We scold Russia when they bully Georgians. But goddamn, Israel gets carte blanche to treat Palestinians like dirt.
Oh yeah, that's right, the Palestinians are a little too brown. What was I thinking? :lulz:
It's also a bit of the "we need a solidly pro-American ally in this region" and "They're Jews!"
The latter one boils down into two camps:
a) Nazis did bad shit to them so they need to have their own country at any costs.
b) God won't destroy the world with fiery wrath and plaguey pestilence unless the Chosen People go back to the Holy Land. Since there's an increase in fiery wrath since they got there, it's a sign that it is working and Jesus will soon come and show us he loves us with his laser cannon and genetically engineered scorpion-locust hybrids.
Aren't the Israeli pretty much just as brown as the Palestinians, though? I mean, thanks to their crazy laws as to who is Jewish or not (none of that "your mom has to be Jewish, period." like in the rest of the world), I suppose the majority aren't white?
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 29, 2010, 03:52:02 PM
Aren't the Israeli pretty much just as brown as the Palestinians, though? I mean, thanks to their crazy laws as to who is Jewish or not (none of that "your mom has to be Jewish, period." like in the rest of the world), I suppose the majority aren't white?
think they made a joke about that in a Family Guy episode.
HA HA! *not surprised*
I fucking hate Israel and I'm glad it's finally gotten to the point where I can say that in progressive company without it being automatically assumed that I'm an antisemitic baby-eating Nazi.
Every Israeli I have met is lily-white. They are Hitler's fucking wet dream. Tall, beautiful, healthy white people in a racist nation that oppresses the surrounding brown folks. I am not sure what the selection process was for the Israeli population, but it seems to have been pretty radically biased toward whiteness, health, and beauty.
They also tend to have an arrogance that makes Americans look humble and self-effacing.
I do have Israeli friends, and this is not an indictment of the people there, but the government is a fucked-up piece of shit, and the very concept is wrong wrong wrong. "Oh hey, you guys are being oppressed over here? Well, how about move you over there and you can do the same thing to the people who already live there?"
By the way, I highly suggest NOT google image searching "israeli". I was going to find some pictures to illustrate their overwhelming whiteness, but what I saw was badwrongbad.
Quote from: Nigel on December 29, 2010, 07:42:38 PM
I fucking hate Israel and I'm glad it's finally gotten to the point where I can say that in progressive company without it being automatically assumed that I'm an antisemitic baby-eating Nazi.
Every Israeli I have met is lily-white. They are Hitler's fucking wet dream. Tall, beautiful, healthy white people in a racist nation that oppresses the surrounding brown folks. I am not sure what the selection process was for the Israeli population, but it seems to have been pretty radically biased toward whiteness, health, and beauty.
They also tend to have an arrogance that makes Americans look humble and self-effacing.
I do have Israeli friends, and this is not an indictment of the people there, but the government is a fucked-up piece of shit, and the very concept is wrong wrong wrong. "Oh hey, you guys are being oppressed over here? Well, how about move you over there and you can do the same thing to the people who already live there?"
You also seem to make a distinction between Israel, which is an oppressive state, and Jews, who are a people that may or may not have anything to do with Israel.
And then Nigel was a Black/Hispanic/Amerind/Welsh Nazi. :lulz:
(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5919/israelirealestateagent7.jpg)
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 29, 2010, 07:47:27 PM
And then Nigel was a Black/Hispanic/Amerind/Welsh Nazi. :lulz:
:lulz: SIEG HEIL!
Quote from: Nigel on December 29, 2010, 07:56:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 29, 2010, 07:47:27 PM
And then Nigel was a Black/Hispanic/Amerind/Welsh Nazi. :lulz:
:lulz: SIEG HEIL!
This has given me a disturbing, yet ticklish, idea for a shoop. :lol:
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on December 29, 2010, 07:53:15 PM
(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5919/israelirealestateagent7.jpg)
Wow.
Yeah, basically. That kind of sums it up.
The real question is, how can this problem be solved without doing the same thing AGAIN?
Quote from: Nigel on December 29, 2010, 07:57:39 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 29, 2010, 07:57:10 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 29, 2010, 07:56:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 29, 2010, 07:47:27 PM
And then Nigel was a Black/Hispanic/Amerind/Welsh Nazi. :lulz:
:lulz: SIEG HEIL!
This has given me a disturbing, yet ticklish, idea for a shoop. :lol:
Oooh I await with glee!
I gotta get to my laptop.
Quote from: Nigel on December 29, 2010, 07:57:20 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on December 29, 2010, 07:53:15 PM
(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5919/israelirealestateagent7.jpg)
Wow.
Yeah, basically. That kind of sums it up.
The real question is, how can this problem be solved without doing the same thing AGAIN?
I've already offered a solution to the Israel/Palestine crisis which would also reduce the amount of stupid in our own country.
The Robber's Cave experiment suggests one easy way to solve a two-sided conflict: give them a third party to fight against, together.
To this end, I suggest the USA invade and put Israel and the Occupied Territories under the sovereignty of the Vatican, and encourage the Nazi Pope to rule with an iron fist.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 29, 2010, 07:58:55 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 29, 2010, 07:57:20 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on December 29, 2010, 07:53:15 PM
(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5919/israelirealestateagent7.jpg)
Wow.
Yeah, basically. That kind of sums it up.
The real question is, how can this problem be solved without doing the same thing AGAIN?
I've already offered a solution to the Israel/Palestine crisis which would also reduce the amount of stupid in our own country.
I don't think "kill everyone" will be an acceptable policy for most people...
Quote from: Nigel on December 29, 2010, 09:01:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 29, 2010, 07:58:55 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 29, 2010, 07:57:20 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on December 29, 2010, 07:53:15 PM
(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5919/israelirealestateagent7.jpg)
Wow.
Yeah, basically. That kind of sums it up.
The real question is, how can this problem be solved without doing the same thing AGAIN?
I've already offered a solution to the Israel/Palestine crisis which would also reduce the amount of stupid in our own country.
I don't think "kill everyone" will be an acceptable policy for most people...
Nope. This one has more in common with a zombiepocalypse.
I can't do it justice right now. I'll write it up properly tonight or tomorrow.
An actual Zombiepocalypse would probably work, too.
For some reason (which is far too tedious to explain) certain strategic studies and IR scholars have developed a bizarre fascination with zombies lately. Maybe they spent some time away from their desks in the summer holidays and discovered Zombie Land or something. Anyway, because they have grad students who will literally do anything to get good grades, they set up a Zombie World War Scenario, and let things play out.
Amazingly enough, most nations stopped giving a fuck about strategic positioning against other nations when fighting to survive against the zombie hordes. Russia cooperated with China and the USA, Israel and the Arab states banded together...everyone put the petty bickering aside, even when the stakes were not that petty, and the bickering was previously done by nuclear-armed states.
Of course, this is just a variation on the Robber's Cave experiment, and strategic studies students tend towards rational self-preservation and maximizing strategies for survival...but I think the whole "zombie horde for the world to fight against" played a part, too.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 29, 2010, 09:02:04 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 29, 2010, 09:01:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 29, 2010, 07:58:55 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 29, 2010, 07:57:20 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on December 29, 2010, 07:53:15 PM
(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5919/israelirealestateagent7.jpg)
Wow.
Yeah, basically. That kind of sums it up.
The real question is, how can this problem be solved without doing the same thing AGAIN?
I've already offered a solution to the Israel/Palestine crisis which would also reduce the amount of stupid in our own country.
I don't think "kill everyone" will be an acceptable policy for most people...
Nope. This one has more in common with a zombiepocalypse.
I can't do it justice right now. I'll write it up properly tonight or tomorrow.
:lulz: I remember this. I loved that idea!
Quote from: Cain on December 29, 2010, 09:08:41 PM
An actual Zombiepocalypse would probably work, too.
For some reason (which is far too tedious to explain) certain strategic studies and IR scholars have developed a bizarre fascination with zombies lately. Maybe they spent some time away from their desks in the summer holidays and discovered Zombie Land or something. Anyway, because they have grad students who will literally do anything to get good grades, they set up a Zombie World War Scenario, and let things play out.
Amazingly enough, most nations stopped giving a fuck about strategic positioning against other nations when fighting to survive against the zombie hordes. Russia cooperated with China and the USA, Israel and the Arab states banded together...everyone put the petty bickering aside, even when the stakes were not that petty, and the bickering was previously done by nuclear-armed states.
Of course, this is just a variation on the Robber's Cave experiment, and strategic studies students tend towards rational self-preservation and maximizing strategies for survival...but I think the whole "zombie horde for the world to fight against" played a part, too.
This is why I cant wait until the Aliens come.
Only when faced with hideous insectoid invaders can we all truly come together as one big human family.
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on December 30, 2010, 12:18:48 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 29, 2010, 09:08:41 PM
An actual Zombiepocalypse would probably work, too.
For some reason (which is far too tedious to explain) certain strategic studies and IR scholars have developed a bizarre fascination with zombies lately. Maybe they spent some time away from their desks in the summer holidays and discovered Zombie Land or something. Anyway, because they have grad students who will literally do anything to get good grades, they set up a Zombie World War Scenario, and let things play out.
Amazingly enough, most nations stopped giving a fuck about strategic positioning against other nations when fighting to survive against the zombie hordes. Russia cooperated with China and the USA, Israel and the Arab states banded together...everyone put the petty bickering aside, even when the stakes were not that petty, and the bickering was previously done by nuclear-armed states.
Of course, this is just a variation on the Robber's Cave experiment, and strategic studies students tend towards rational self-preservation and maximizing strategies for survival...but I think the whole "zombie horde for the world to fight against" played a part, too.
This is why I cant wait until the Aliens come.
Only when faced with hideous insectoid invaders can we all truly come together as one big human family.
Fuck that. I don't have to outrun the invaders, just you.
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on December 30, 2010, 12:18:48 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 29, 2010, 09:08:41 PM
An actual Zombiepocalypse would probably work, too.
For some reason (which is far too tedious to explain) certain strategic studies and IR scholars have developed a bizarre fascination with zombies lately. Maybe they spent some time away from their desks in the summer holidays and discovered Zombie Land or something. Anyway, because they have grad students who will literally do anything to get good grades, they set up a Zombie World War Scenario, and let things play out.
Amazingly enough, most nations stopped giving a fuck about strategic positioning against other nations when fighting to survive against the zombie hordes. Russia cooperated with China and the USA, Israel and the Arab states banded together...everyone put the petty bickering aside, even when the stakes were not that petty, and the bickering was previously done by nuclear-armed states.
Of course, this is just a variation on the Robber's Cave experiment, and strategic studies students tend towards rational self-preservation and maximizing strategies for survival...but I think the whole "zombie horde for the world to fight against" played a part, too.
This is why I cant wait until the Aliens come.
Only when faced with hideous insectoid invaders can we all truly come together as one big human family.
Nah, aliens can be talked to, so you can be pretty sure that somebody will try to sell the world out to get influence with them. The nice thing about zombies is that there's really only an option of shooting them or dying.
Yeah, I'd really prefer it if humanity had a common enemy that couldn't be reasoned with.
Quote from: Sigmatic on December 30, 2010, 01:52:47 AM
Yeah, I'd really prefer it if humanity had a common enemy that couldn't be reasoned with.
I take it you aren't counting humanity as fitting that description?
Quote from: Doktor Phox on December 30, 2010, 01:54:21 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on December 30, 2010, 01:52:47 AM
Yeah, I'd really prefer it if humanity had a common enemy that couldn't be reasoned with.
I take it you aren't counting humanity as fitting that description?
see also, "Goddammit"
Re: The OP though, that's tragic. Fucking monsters.
According to the novel my 11yr old is reading for English class ("The Hunger Games"), this is simply step 1 in an ingenious plot of population control.
Step 2: Once the populous has been accustomed to artificial food scarcity, start a 'lottery' among the pubescent children.
Step 3: These chosen children then fight it out, Battle Royale style, for extra food rations for their home vilalge.
Step 4: Children's names are put in to the lottery x1 @ 14 yrs old, x2 @ 15, x3 @ 16, x4 @ 17 and Five times for 18. Survive to 18? You're out.
Step 5: :x :vom:
Quote from: Telarus on December 30, 2010, 03:31:51 AM
According to the novel my 11yr old is reading for English class ("The Hunger Games"), this is simply step 1 in an ingenious plot of population control.
Step 2: Once the populous has been accustomed to artificial food scarcity, start a 'lottery' among the pubescent children.
Step 3: These chosen children then fight it out, Battle Royale style, for extra food rations for their home vilalge.
Step 4: Children's names are put in to the lottery x1 @ 14 yrs old, x2 @ 15, x3 @ 16, x4 @ 17 and Five times for 18. Survive to 18? You're out.
Step 5: :x :vom:
What the fuuuuuck?
Wow.
Quote from: Cain on December 29, 2010, 08:35:51 PM
The Robber's Cave experiment suggests one easy way to solve a two-sided conflict: give them a third party to fight against, together.
To this end, I suggest the USA invade and put Israel and the Occupied Territories under the sovereignty of the Vatican, and encourage the Nazi Pope to rule with an iron fist.
Problem comes back when the war is over. Sometimes intensifies, like what happened between the US and USSR
Quote from: Jenne on December 30, 2010, 03:34:00 AM
Quote from: Telarus on December 30, 2010, 03:31:51 AM
According to the novel my 11yr old is reading for English class ("The Hunger Games"), this is simply step 1 in an ingenious plot of population control.
Step 2: Once the populous has been accustomed to artificial food scarcity, start a 'lottery' among the pubescent children.
Step 3: These chosen children then fight it out, Battle Royale style, for extra food rations for their home vilalge.
Step 4: Children's names are put in to the lottery x1 @ 14 yrs old, x2 @ 15, x3 @ 16, x4 @ 17 and Five times for 18. Survive to 18? You're out.
Step 5: :x :vom:
What the fuuuuuck?
Wow.
The novel is set in post apocalyptic N America, but the 'centralized government preventing further rebellion by the districts on the fringes by enforcing artificial food scarcity' immediately jumped out at me.
And come-on, if this was seriously proposed by some higher-ups in the Israeli government, there would actually be people willing to argue _for_ it.
I'm getting tired of the information age. There are simply too many really bad ideas available to the common man for anyone's good.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on December 30, 2010, 03:36:23 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 29, 2010, 08:35:51 PM
The Robber's Cave experiment suggests one easy way to solve a two-sided conflict: give them a third party to fight against, together.
To this end, I suggest the USA invade and put Israel and the Occupied Territories under the sovereignty of the Vatican, and encourage the Nazi Pope to rule with an iron fist.
Problem comes back when the war is over. Sometimes intensifies, like what happened between the US and USSR
A zombie apocalypse may not ever end, at best you could contain it. Depends on the type I suppose.
Quote from: Telarus on December 30, 2010, 03:59:18 AM
Quote from: Jenne on December 30, 2010, 03:34:00 AM
Quote from: Telarus on December 30, 2010, 03:31:51 AM
According to the novel my 11yr old is reading for English class ("The Hunger Games"), this is simply step 1 in an ingenious plot of population control.
Step 2: Once the populous has been accustomed to artificial food scarcity, start a 'lottery' among the pubescent children.
Step 3: These chosen children then fight it out, Battle Royale style, for extra food rations for their home vilalge.
Step 4: Children's names are put in to the lottery x1 @ 14 yrs old, x2 @ 15, x3 @ 16, x4 @ 17 and Five times for 18. Survive to 18? You're out.
Step 5: :x :vom:
What the fuuuuuck?
Wow.
The novel is set in post apocalyptic N America, but the 'centralized government preventing further rebellion by the districts on the fringes by enforcing artificial food scarcity' immediately jumped out at me.
And come-on, if this was seriously proposed by some higher-ups in the Israeli government, there would actually be people willing to argue _for_ it.
I'll also note that there are probably some people in our own gvt who would as well. :vom:
Quote from: Requia ☣ on December 30, 2010, 06:33:17 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on December 30, 2010, 03:36:23 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 29, 2010, 08:35:51 PM
The Robber's Cave experiment suggests one easy way to solve a two-sided conflict: give them a third party to fight against, together.
To this end, I suggest the USA invade and put Israel and the Occupied Territories under the sovereignty of the Vatican, and encourage the Nazi Pope to rule with an iron fist.
Problem comes back when the war is over. Sometimes intensifies, like what happened between the US and USSR
A zombie apocalypse may not ever end, at best you could contain it. Depends on the type I suppose.
My favoritest zombie scenario involves the whole earth infected (except maybe, boreneo, andes, etc), and most of humanity surviving by launching haphazard space craft ans savaging the tech already floating up there into inhabitable biomes and living space. Of course, when half your hydroponics lab is out-dated russian tech, you're going to have to go back planetside for spare parts.
This is where the PCs step in. Logistics of landing a re-orbital craft, defending it long enough for a raiding team to get what they came for, and then boost back to orbit is a key game mecanic.
It was called "Raid Earth"
Quote from: Telarus on December 30, 2010, 08:15:12 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on December 30, 2010, 06:33:17 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on December 30, 2010, 03:36:23 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 29, 2010, 08:35:51 PM
The Robber's Cave experiment suggests one easy way to solve a two-sided conflict: give them a third party to fight against, together.
To this end, I suggest the USA invade and put Israel and the Occupied Territories under the sovereignty of the Vatican, and encourage the Nazi Pope to rule with an iron fist.
Problem comes back when the war is over. Sometimes intensifies, like what happened between the US and USSR
A zombie apocalypse may not ever end, at best you could contain it. Depends on the type I suppose.
My favoritest zombie scenario involves the whole earth infected (except maybe, boreneo, andes, etc), and most of humanity surviving by launching haphazard space craft ans savaging the tech already floating up there into inhabitable biomes and living space. Of course, when half your hydroponics lab is out-dated russian tech, you're going to have to go back planetside for spare parts.
This is where the PCs step in. Logistics of landing a re-orbital craft, defending it long enough for a raiding team to get what they came for, and then boost back to orbit is a key game mecanic.
It was called "Raid Earth"
Sounds awesome!
I heard about those books from an IR professor I correspond with occasionally. She said despite the marketing that these are "young adult" novels, they're really not, and quite interesting as well.