How about we make jarring posters advertising discordia? Posters that people will look at and be :eek: . These are fundamentally different than posters like "23 things while you wait" as those are mindfuck posters and while they have the potential to shock people, these new posters will be more for the sole purpose of advertising discordia in a shocking fashion.
I opted to go for a "positive aspects of being a discordian" angle when making this poster.
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2633/erisposter.th.png) (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/erisposter.png/)
Remember: Aphrodite may be the greek goddess of beauty, but Eris is the greek goddess of fucking sexy!
So, get to work already.
Quote from: Dean on December 31, 2010, 08:58:05 AM
How about we make jarring posters advertising discordia? Posters that people will look at and be :eek: . These are fundamentally different than posters like "23 things while you wait" as those are mindfuck posters and while they have the potential to shock people, these new posters will be more for the sole purpose of advertising discordia in a shocking fashion.
If you only shock people, many will often just shut down. They'll simply put it in the category of "gross and disgusting things I don't want to think about", and move on from there. It's important to tread the line between being shocking and the point that people think of as having no redeeming social value. (Basically, if you are somewhat shocking and charming/funny, people will pay attention. If you are -just- shocking, people will shut down and you lose your chance to blow their mind through more subtle methods.)
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That being said, I like the poster sample. I'll be in my room if you need me. :fap: :fap: :fap:
That poster was OK. But, it pretty much presumes the complete nonexistence or irrelevance of straight females, so you're alienating half your audience before you even leave go. If you had a counterpart poster with, say, Mars, it might be funny, but then you're just promoting the Greek pantheon, not Discordianism.
The other thing about that poster is that the entire audience is religiously disillusioned boys between 13-24. Nobody else will even think about it. Sexually objectifying a deity pretty much automatically places it in the "joke" category.
Also Eris
Quote from: Dean on December 31, 2010, 08:58:05 AM
How about we make jarring posters advertising discordia? Posters that people will look at and be :eek: . These are fundamentally different than posters like "23 things while you wait" as those are mindfuck posters and while they have the potential to shock people, these new posters will be more for the sole purpose of advertising discordia in a shocking fashion.
I opted to go for a "positive aspects of being a discordian" angle when making this poster.
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2633/erisposter.th.png) (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/erisposter.png/)
Remember: Aphrodite may be the greek goddess of beauty, but Eris is the greek goddess of fucking sexy!
Isn't Eris butt ass ugly traditionally?
Quote from: Burns on December 31, 2010, 07:31:21 PM
Also Eris Quote from: Dean on December 31, 2010, 08:58:05 AM
How about we make jarring posters advertising discordia? Posters that people will look at and be :eek: . These are fundamentally different than posters like "23 things while you wait" as those are mindfuck posters and while they have the potential to shock people, these new posters will be more for the sole purpose of advertising discordia in a shocking fashion.
I opted to go for a "positive aspects of being a discordian" angle when making this poster.
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2633/erisposter.th.png) (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/erisposter.png/)
Remember: Aphrodite may be the greek goddess of beauty, but Eris is the greek goddess of fucking sexy!
Isn't Eris butt ass ugly traditionally?
I think that's the traditional depiction with the most reference material to back it up, yes. Ancient images of Eris I've seen weren't hideous, but they weren't hot, either.
My own personal mental image of her is not unattractive, but with a slightly creepy knowing quality that would give most people a combination of limpdick and The Fear.
Quote from: Nigel on December 31, 2010, 09:20:27 PM
Quote from: Burns on December 31, 2010, 07:31:21 PM
Also Eris Quote from: Dean on December 31, 2010, 08:58:05 AM
How about we make jarring posters advertising discordia? Posters that people will look at and be :eek: . These are fundamentally different than posters like "23 things while you wait" as those are mindfuck posters and while they have the potential to shock people, these new posters will be more for the sole purpose of advertising discordia in a shocking fashion.
I opted to go for a "positive aspects of being a discordian" angle when making this poster.
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2633/erisposter.th.png) (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/erisposter.png/)
Remember: Aphrodite may be the greek goddess of beauty, but Eris is the greek goddess of fucking sexy!
Isn't Eris butt ass ugly traditionally?
I think that's the traditional depiction with the most reference material to back it up, yes. Ancient images of Eris I've seen weren't hideous, but they weren't hot, either.
My own personal mental image of her is not unattractive, but with a slightly creepy knowing quality that would give most people a combination of limpdick and The Fear.
:lulz: I think I might just adopt that image. Might keep the unattractive version around to keep me from getting too caught up in teh crazy.
Quote from: Nigel on December 31, 2010, 09:20:27 PM
Quote from: Burns on December 31, 2010, 07:31:21 PM
Also Eris Quote from: Dean on December 31, 2010, 08:58:05 AM
How about we make jarring posters advertising discordia? Posters that people will look at and be :eek: . These are fundamentally different than posters like "23 things while you wait" as those are mindfuck posters and while they have the potential to shock people, these new posters will be more for the sole purpose of advertising discordia in a shocking fashion.
I opted to go for a "positive aspects of being a discordian" angle when making this poster.
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2633/erisposter.th.png) (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/erisposter.png/)
Remember: Aphrodite may be the greek goddess of beauty, but Eris is the greek goddess of fucking sexy!
Isn't Eris butt ass ugly traditionally?
I think that's the traditional depiction with the most reference material to back it up, yes. Ancient images of Eris I've seen weren't hideous, but they weren't hot, either.
My own personal mental image of her is not unattractive, but with a slightly creepy knowing quality that would give most people a combination of limpdick and The Fear.
This. Especially the second line.
Quote from: Nigel on December 31, 2010, 09:20:27 PM
Quote from: Burns on December 31, 2010, 07:31:21 PM
Also Eris Quote from: Dean on December 31, 2010, 08:58:05 AM
How about we make jarring posters advertising discordia? Posters that people will look at and be :eek: . These are fundamentally different than posters like "23 things while you wait" as those are mindfuck posters and while they have the potential to shock people, these new posters will be more for the sole purpose of advertising discordia in a shocking fashion.
I opted to go for a "positive aspects of being a discordian" angle when making this poster.
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2633/erisposter.th.png) (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/erisposter.png/)
Remember: Aphrodite may be the greek goddess of beauty, but Eris is the greek goddess of fucking sexy!
Isn't Eris butt ass ugly traditionally?
I think that's the traditional depiction with the most reference material to back it up, yes. Ancient images of Eris I've seen weren't hideous, but they weren't hot, either.
My own personal mental image of her is not unattractive, but with a slightly creepy knowing quality that would give most people a combination of limpdick and The Fear.
Dear Goddess, so much of this.
As to the discordant mythical portrayals of our goddess, it stems from the fact that She is also Enyo of the Graiae (and arguably all 3 of them), and thus was (a) beautiful swan maiden(s) at the beginning of time (and probably not publicly differentiated from Rhea/Ma/Cybele as in the later period).
But by the time of Perseus, She was (one or all) of the 3 hags he had to trick for the location of Medusa's temple.
Then again, when She took Her form as Rhea the 'Loverattle Goddess' to mess with the military events in India, she was a fucking knockout, probably in order to contrast the gore and depravity around her.
The description we get through the PD actually comes from the Romans, where she went through similar shifts in 'beauty' depending on popular opinion. As regal Bellona, Her temple was the representative of any and all foreign powers, and you literally had to assault it (throw a spear at her gateway) to formally declare war in the Senate. The 'dagger clutched in her bosom' is a roman officer's blade of office (the design was Her's first, the Roman military cult decided that each officer carrying a round a totem of Enyo, Destroyer of Cities was a good idea, or something...), called the PARAZONIUM (it's really more of a short sword).
By 5 AD, when Polycharmus Azenius, the Archon of Athens, pronounced the punishment of ostrakon, or exile, for Megas, the last surviving Grecian priest of Eris, Her public image was seriously divorced from Cybele, the new public face of the Magna Mater, and was pretty much what we got through the PD.
I like the poster, BTW.
We could also use Bellona to good effect. The US Government has tons and tons of art depicting Bellona in American colors.
Here's another, inspired by "keep calm and carry on". Gender and sexuality neutral (hopefully), but also less 'jarring'.
(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/9918/eathotdog.th.png) (http://img717.imageshack.us/i/eathotdog.png/)
Quote from: Nigel on December 31, 2010, 07:06:37 PMSexually objectifying a deity pretty much automatically places it in the "joke" category.
Disagree about this particular bit btw. I think it's perfectly possible to sexually objectify a serious deity. On the other hand, agree with your other notions about the poster, and does have a strong "joke" thing about it, but not simply because of the sexual objectivifcation.
Quote from: Triple Zero on January 01, 2011, 09:28:52 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 31, 2010, 07:06:37 PMSexually objectifying a deity pretty much automatically places it in the "joke" category.
Disagree about this particular bit btw. I think it's perfectly possible to sexually objectify a serious deity. On the other hand, agree with your other notions about the poster, and does have a strong "joke" thing about it, but not simply because of the sexual objectivifcation.
I think that, unless it's a specifically sexual deity, most people will look at it and think it's a joke. Oh, lol. Jacking off to your god. Whatever. Dismissed.
My complaint is that it makes it ineffective at making anyone think.
Quote from: Dean on January 01, 2011, 10:10:35 AM
Here's another, inspired by "keep calm and carry on". Gender and sexuality neutral (hopefully), but also less 'jarring'.
(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/9918/eathotdog.th.png) (http://img717.imageshack.us/i/eathotdog.png/)
I like it.
I much prefer your second one in terms of visual design, but it's still depending entirely on a stale joke rather than extending or illustrating a discordian concept.
I'm not going to pile on for your first one even though I'm not a fan of it, however, if you really like it then fuck what anyone thinks and put your damn poster up.
Quote from: Dean on December 31, 2010, 08:58:05 AM
How about we make jarring posters advertising discordia? Posters that people will look at and be :eek: . These are fundamentally different than posters like "23 things while you wait" as those are mindfuck posters and while they have the potential to shock people, these new posters will be more for the sole purpose of advertising discordia in a shocking fashion.
I like the idea!
This touches on an ongoing discussion about our poster's goals...
The best angle is probably to be shocking while not offensive. And this is tough, because you've gotta rock some taboos in order to get people's attention, but you don't want to shut them off immediately.
Vulgarity and sexuality are the cheap ways to do it, you see it in ads everywhere. They get away with it by presenting it in a way that jives with you, that you feel like you're participating in. I think you can get away with a poster that says FUCK, for example, as long as the FUCK is directed at something that the viewer also hates, and is not an offensive 'FUCK YOU'.
(and for posterity, my version of Eris is hot as sweet merciful fuck... but she's the kind of girl you're afraid to bang because she's crazy as a loon and the whole encounter is going to screw you up proper)
A few years back we were real hot on floating meme bombs at each other, and one that came to the top was "YOUR WIFE IS CHEATING ON YOU"... my ex-girlfriend knows a guy who makes posters like that which are supposed to nag at your insecurities. Stuff like, "YOU COULD HAVE TRIED HARDER" or "HE KNOWS YOU'RE KIND OF STUPID". And these bug me. I really hate them. You have to look at the effect they have on people and ask yourself if that's the energy you want to put into the world.
So that being said, the trick is to come up with thing which are attention grabbing without being aggressive.
Normally I focus on surreal or misleading posters, so this is kind of an interesting thought experiment for me.
Quote from: Dean on January 01, 2011, 10:10:35 AM
Here's another, inspired by "keep calm and carry on". Gender and sexuality neutral (hopefully), but also less 'jarring'.
(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/9918/eathotdog.th.png) (http://img717.imageshack.us/i/eathotdog.png/)
I like this! The style is very attention grabbing, urgent.
I feel like it's still missing something. It's mysterious, it's intriguing, but I think it needs something... I'm not sure what, but I feel like it could be juxtaposed with a symbol or image or phrase that would lead you deeper without the big reveal.
maybe something that suggests religion or safety? hmmm
more thoughts later
and if I haven't said Hi yet Dean, welcome aboard and you are a bad ass for putting this idea out there
I made some more, if you couldn't tell.
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/413/embrace.th.png) (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/embrace.png/)
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1990/gilt.th.png) (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/gilt.png/)
(http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/3116/goteris.th.png) (http://img813.imageshack.us/i/goteris.png/)
(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5151/appleb.th.png) (http://img263.imageshack.us/i/appleb.png/)
Haha! I was thinking of one the other day, photoshop a milk mustache on some serious looking dude's eyebrows with a caption: "Got KAOS?"
Quote from: Dean on January 06, 2011, 03:13:17 AM
I made some more, if you couldn't tell.
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/413/embrace.th.png) (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/embrace.png/)
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1990/gilt.th.png) (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/gilt.png/)
(http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/3116/goteris.th.png) (http://img813.imageshack.us/i/goteris.png/)
(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5151/appleb.th.png) (http://img263.imageshack.us/i/appleb.png/)
I really like that last one.
The story behind that one is funny. One night as I was going asleep the phrase popped through my head and i sprang out of bed to type it down in my phone. If it isn't obvious (i often am not obvious) this is a pun on the story of eve giving adam the apple. I love this gilt =/= guilt thing, genius.
I am not sure what rock we'd have to have lived under our entire lives to not get that, but thanks for ruining the funny anyway.
Quote from: Dean on January 06, 2011, 01:29:43 PM
The story behind that one is funny. One night as I was going asleep the phrase popped through my head and i sprang out of bed to type it down in my phone. If it isn't obvious (i often am not obvious) this is a pun on the story of eve giving adam the apple. I love this gilt =/= guilt thing, genius.
HUWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA--*replaces 'A' key* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!?
Quote from: Dean on January 06, 2011, 01:29:43 PM
I love this gilt =/= guilt thing, genius.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did you just praise your own ingenuity?
Quote from: Epimetheus on January 07, 2011, 02:58:41 AM
Quote from: Dean on January 06, 2011, 01:29:43 PM
I love this gilt =/= guilt thing, genius.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did you just praise your own ingenuity?
I am assuming he's being wryly sarcastic because it's so obvious. But it still made it less funny.
Quote from: Nigel on January 07, 2011, 03:17:16 AM
Quote from: Epimetheus on January 07, 2011, 02:58:41 AM
Quote from: Dean on January 06, 2011, 01:29:43 PM
I love this gilt =/= guilt thing, genius.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did you just praise your own ingenuity?
I am assuming he's being wryly sarcastic because it's so obvious. But it still made it less funny.
I'm actually praising the ingenuity of whoever came up with that (I think I read it in either the apocrypha or the principia). So yeah, not sarcastic.
Quote from: Dean on January 07, 2011, 07:52:45 AM
Quote from: Nigel on January 07, 2011, 03:17:16 AM
Quote from: Epimetheus on January 07, 2011, 02:58:41 AM
Quote from: Dean on January 06, 2011, 01:29:43 PM
I love this gilt =/= guilt thing, genius.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did you just praise your own ingenuity?
I am assuming he's being wryly sarcastic because it's so obvious. But it still made it less funny.
I'm actually praising the ingenuity of whoever came up with that (I think I read it in either the apocrypha or the principia). So yeah, not sarcastic.
:facepalm: