http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/01/02/2011-01-02_more_than_1000_dead_birds_fall_out_of_the_sky_in_arkansas_streets_covered_with_b.html
Holy crap!
WHOA WHAT THE FUCK.
This is how it begins. :tinfoilhat:
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on January 03, 2011, 03:26:56 AM
This is how it begins. :tinfoilhat:
And here I was thinking that was how it ended.
shittons of west nile?
C'mon guys, it's obvious. God hates the black birds for being gay. They were thinking about adopting kids, ya know.
Quote from: Risus on January 03, 2011, 04:15:14 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on January 03, 2011, 03:26:56 AM
This is how it begins. :tinfoilhat:
And here I was thinking that was how it ended.
I'm good either way so long as Arkansas goes first.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on January 03, 2011, 03:26:56 AM
This is how it begins. :tinfoilhat:
That or its a flashforward :fnord:
HIMEOBS: You cannot fly high enough
Weeellll yanno, frogs are so "done". Just mixing it up, I suspect.
QuoteLast year we started with floods. This year birds,
:lulz:
QuoteBeebe residents describe the scene as something out of an Alfred Hitchcock film,
Dumbfucks. If it was out of an Alfred Hitchcock movie the birds would've been bigger, alive, and gouging their goddamn eyes out.
Clearly it's viral marketing. Very very clever, somewhat creepy viral marketing.
I dunno.........
Arkansas officials are investigating the death of an estimated 100,000 fish in the state's northwest, but suspect disease was to blame, a state spokesman said Sunday.
Dead drum fish floated in the water and lined the banks of a 20-mile stretch of the Arkansas River near Ozark, about 125 miles northwest of Little Rock, said Keith Stephens of the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission. A tugboat operator discovered the fish kill Thursday night, and fisheries officials collected some of the dying animals to conduct tests.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/02/arkansas.fish.kill/index.html?hpt=T2
and earthquakes....
More than 500 measurable earthquakes have been reported in central Arkansas since September 20, ranging in magnitude from a barely noticeable 1.8 to a very noticeable 4.0 (recorded on October 11), according to the U.S. Geological Survey.
Geologists can't say whether they'll stop anytime soon.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/23/arkansas.earthquakes/index.html?iref=allsearch
Obviously NASA dumped their arsenic fish into the water after they kicked the bucket, thereby polluting the water and killing the fish. The birds ate the dead arsenic and regular fish, got sick and died. Clearly, this is Mike Huckabee's fault.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 03, 2011, 03:02:45 PM
Obviously NASA dumped their arsenic fish into the water after they kicked the bucket, thereby polluting the water and killing the fish. The birds ate the dead arsenic and regular fish, got sick and died. Clearly, this is Mike Huckabee's fault.
Well Pat Robertson said......... :lulz:
Bio-terrorism rumors in 3...2...1....
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 03, 2011, 03:15:28 PM
Bio-terrorism rumors in 3...2...1....
I so fucking wish.....
Oh shit
http://www.agfc.com/Pages/newsDetails.aspx?show=148
QuoteResults from preliminary testing released today by the Arkansas Livestock and Poultry Commission Veterinary Diagnostic Lab show that red-winged blackbirds died from massive trauma on New Year's Eve.
The trauma was primarily in breast tissue, with blood clots in the body cavity and internal bleeding. All major organs were normal and the birds appeared to be healthy. Gizzards and stomachs of the birds were empty.
According to the report, "Further tests will be done to rule out other causes, but the birds suffered from acute physical trauma leading to internal hemorrhage and death. There was no sign of any chronic or infectious disease."
It's not apparent what caused the bird's unusual behavior, although loud noises were reported shortly before the birds began to fall from the sky. Blackbirds have poor night vision and do not typically fly at night.
Beginning at about 11:30 p.m., Dec. 31, Arkansas Game and Fish Commission wildlife officers received reports of blackbirds falling from the sky in a square-mile area of Beebe. It's estimated that up to 5,000 birds fell before midnight. Most of the birds were dead, but some were alive when officers arrived.
The AGFC flew over the area in a helicopter to gauge the scope of the event. No dead birds were found outside of the initial area of fallen birds.
Oh double shit
http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=136401&catid=2
QuoteArkansas Game & Fish is trying to figure out why 100,000 fish in Northwest Arkansas turned up dead. They were found along a 20-mile stretch between the Ozark Dam and Highway 109 Bridge in Franklin County.
The 20-mile stretch along the Arkansas River where an estimated 100,000 drum fish were found washed ashore and floating looks much different now.
Keith Stephens with Game and Fish explains, "We got a call last week from a tug boat operator that found the fish out on the river along the bank, in the river channel and we immediately dispatched somebody to the area to take a look."
Investigators from local and state agencies took samples from the affected area. Stephens says fish kills occur every year, but the magnitude of this one is unusual, and disease could be the cause.
Well, the only common link is that both groups of animals were in Arkansas. So obviously the only rational decision is to wall off the state to protect the rest of the country.
Madagascar just closed it's borders.
The fringe websites are speculating sonic weapons at the moment. Which is at least somewhat consistent with the kind of damage seen in the birds.
Quote from: The Poster With No Name on January 04, 2011, 02:17:09 PM
The fringe websites are speculating sonic weapons at the moment. Which is at least somewhat consistent with the kind of damage seen in the birds.
Just once, I wish the crazy, fringe lunatics would be correct. LIFE IS SO FUCKING MUCH MORE INTERESTING WHEN THE CRAZIES ARE JUSTIFIED.
I'm hoping for a terrorist plot with biological agents and sonic weapons. C'mon least likely scenario!
Someone on a game I was playing suggested "Aliens", but I think they were joking.
The god nuts are also out in force over this one.
JEBUS IS A COMIN'!
Hello Louisiana,
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2011/01/04/dnt.la.bird.deaths.wafb?hpt=T2
More birds dropping from the sky.
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 04, 2011, 05:43:21 PM
Hello Louisiana,
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2011/01/04/dnt.la.bird.deaths.wafb?hpt=T2
More birds dropping from the sky.
WOOO! GO TERRORISTS! NOW KILL SOME LOUISIANA FISH TOO!
Quote from: Doktor Phox on January 04, 2011, 06:21:44 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 04, 2011, 05:43:21 PM
Hello Louisiana,
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2011/01/04/dnt.la.bird.deaths.wafb?hpt=T2
More birds dropping from the sky.
WOOO! GO TERRORISTS! NOW KILL SOME LOUISIANA FISH TOO!
Google BP.
The sparrows aren't flying again.
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 04, 2011, 06:25:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on January 04, 2011, 06:21:44 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 04, 2011, 05:43:21 PM
Hello Louisiana,
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2011/01/04/dnt.la.bird.deaths.wafb?hpt=T2
More birds dropping from the sky.
WOOO! GO TERRORISTS! NOW KILL SOME LOUISIANA FISH TOO!
Google BP.
Does that count as biological terrorism? IT FUCKING DOES! GO TERRORISTS! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Quote from: The Poster With No Name on January 04, 2011, 02:17:09 PM
The fringe websites are speculating sonic weapons at the moment. Which is at least somewhat consistent with the kind of damage seen in the birds.
http://youtu.be/mPToDj16Xx0
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Kentucky Fried Crow?
Yummo!
Fuck! That is one big picture!
Finger Lickin' Good.
Prison Planet has this to say:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/is-mass-bird-and-fish-die-off-connected-to-government-testing.html
I don't know, maybe, but... Could be something else... I'm not about to watch the videos there.
It's probably eugenics.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 04, 2011, 07:09:46 PM
It's probably eugenics.
Damn birds were unfit. Had to put 'em down sos the rest of 'em could survive.
http://the-end-time.blogspot.com/2011/01/more-dead-birds-falling-to-ground-in-ky.html
To sum up: in the last few days dead blackbirds fell to the ground by the thousands in Beebe Arkansas; Paducah, Kentucky; LaBarre, Louisiana, and Bio Bio Chile. Experts cannot explain it. Now raise your hand if you do not think THIS is a sign...
God did it, dammit.
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 04, 2011, 07:13:18 PM
http://the-end-time.blogspot.com/2011/01/more-dead-birds-falling-to-ground-in-ky.html
To sum up: in the last few days dead blackbirds fell to the ground by the thousands in Beebe Arkansas; Paducah, Kentucky; LaBarre, Louisiana, and Bio Bio Chile. Experts cannot explain it. Now raise your hand if you do not think THIS is a sign...
God did it, dammit.
GOD IS A TERRORIST!!??? Actually, that makes perfect sense, in light of the entirety of human history, so... yeah.
Quote from: Doktor Phox on January 04, 2011, 07:14:56 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 04, 2011, 07:13:18 PM
http://the-end-time.blogspot.com/2011/01/more-dead-birds-falling-to-ground-in-ky.html
To sum up: in the last few days dead blackbirds fell to the ground by the thousands in Beebe Arkansas; Paducah, Kentucky; LaBarre, Louisiana, and Bio Bio Chile. Experts cannot explain it. Now raise your hand if you do not think THIS is a sign...
God did it, dammit.
GOD IS A TERRORIST!!??? Actually, that makes perfect sense, in light of the entirety of human history, so... yeah.
Ever read the old Testament?
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 04, 2011, 07:22:31 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on January 04, 2011, 07:14:56 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 04, 2011, 07:13:18 PM
http://the-end-time.blogspot.com/2011/01/more-dead-birds-falling-to-ground-in-ky.html
To sum up: in the last few days dead blackbirds fell to the ground by the thousands in Beebe Arkansas; Paducah, Kentucky; LaBarre, Louisiana, and Bio Bio Chile. Experts cannot explain it. Now raise your hand if you do not think THIS is a sign...
God did it, dammit.
GOD IS A TERRORIST!!??? Actually, that makes perfect sense, in light of the entirety of human history, so... yeah.
Ever read the old Testament?
Makes perfect sense! Still, I refuse to believe any divine power did this. It's the work of Baalzebubba.
Quote from: Fujikoma on January 04, 2011, 07:28:54 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 04, 2011, 07:22:31 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on January 04, 2011, 07:14:56 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 04, 2011, 07:13:18 PM
http://the-end-time.blogspot.com/2011/01/more-dead-birds-falling-to-ground-in-ky.html
To sum up: in the last few days dead blackbirds fell to the ground by the thousands in Beebe Arkansas; Paducah, Kentucky; LaBarre, Louisiana, and Bio Bio Chile. Experts cannot explain it. Now raise your hand if you do not think THIS is a sign...
God did it, dammit.
GOD IS A TERRORIST!!??? Actually, that makes perfect sense, in light of the entirety of human history, so... yeah.
Ever read the old Testament?
Makes perfect sense! Still, I refuse to believe any divine power did this. It's the work of Baalzebubba Bazooka Joe.
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 04, 2011, 07:22:31 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on January 04, 2011, 07:14:56 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 04, 2011, 07:13:18 PM
http://the-end-time.blogspot.com/2011/01/more-dead-birds-falling-to-ground-in-ky.html
To sum up: in the last few days dead blackbirds fell to the ground by the thousands in Beebe Arkansas; Paducah, Kentucky; LaBarre, Louisiana, and Bio Bio Chile. Experts cannot explain it. Now raise your hand if you do not think THIS is a sign...
God did it, dammit.
GOD IS A TERRORIST!!??? Actually, that makes perfect sense, in light of the entirety of human history, so... yeah.
Ever read the old Testament?
Yes. And like i said... makes perfect sense, actually. :lulz:
While I would love to put it off on the dear old lord of fire and brimstone that all of the evangelicals want us to fervently believe in. And with that, it would also indicate (if one wants to believe Revelations) the end of times.....
I'm sticking with secret weapons testing.
I was hoping with enough publicity, they would come up with something truly hilarious to blame it on, but it looks like they are limiting testing to government agencies who will not tell the truth, more along the lines of the truth the government wants us to believe....
maybe theyre all part of a bird cult
Quote from: the dreadful hours on January 04, 2011, 07:54:31 PM
maybe theyre all part of a bird cult
And they shouldn't have drunk the kool-aid? :lulz:
It's probably something to do with Monsanto.
Quote from: Nigel on January 04, 2011, 10:36:40 PM
It's probably something to do with Monsanto.
This thought went through my mind, and you may be joking, not sure, but I didn't post it because I've already posted enough paranoid stuff today :tinfoilhat:
I'm not joking.
An estimated 500 red-winged blackbirds and starlings were found dead in Louisiana, a local newspaper reported – just a few days and a short distance away from where thousands more plummeted to their death in Arkansas.
The blackbirds in Louisiana littered a quarter-mile stretch of a state highway in Point Coupee Parish, near the city of Labarre, the Advocate reported Monday.
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/health/2011/01/04/fireworks-killed-ark-blackbirds/
What are you suggesting? That they somehow ate some bugs that were eating monsanto crops? Or that they ate some monsanto seed?.. It just occurred to me that I have no idea what black birds eat. It might have hit the fish, too.
I was wondering also if it might have anything to do with the corexit stuff they used on the BP oil spill somehow working its way through the food chain, but I really need to read the articles more closely before I start talking about stuff like that.
EDIT: The article Charley just linked to theorized that a number of the carcasses might have been eaten by hungry dogs and cats... If those start dropping dead, then it'll be pretty clear it wasn't the fireworks.
EDIT EDIT: They said the redwinged blackbird in one of those reports, right?
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Red-winged_Blackbird
EDIT EDIT EDIT:
QuoteIn winter, this species will forage away from marshes, taking seeds and grain in open fields and agricultural areas. It can therefore be a considered to be pest of crops.
EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Drum_fish
QuoteThey are found worldwide, in both fresh and saltwater, and are typically benthic carnivores, feeding on invertebrates and smaller fish.
So it seems the fish that died were bottom feeders.
EDIT X5: So, something like this could be arranged to keep people's attention from what's REALLY going on... Julian Assange is being transferred, they're pulling out all the stops on this one, something else must be going on :tinfoilhat: :lulz:
Really though, they'd arrange a few celebrity scandals if they wanted to distract people, unless they decided to do something different this time.
Quote from: The Poster With No Name on January 04, 2011, 02:17:09 PM
The fringe websites are speculating sonic weapons at the moment. Which is at least somewhat consistent with the kind of damage seen in the birds.
Well I gotta say, after reading that bit about no other signs except acute internal bleeding, all at the same time, that's pretty much exactly the first thing that came to mind for me, as well. Don't need to be fringe to make that connection, weirder stuff happens. It's fringe when you start coming up with evidence why this MUST be the case, RIGHT NOW.
This makes me very sad. I am very fond of Redwinged Blackbirds. :cry:
Quote from: Nigel on January 04, 2011, 10:36:40 PM
It's probably something to do with Monsanto.
Guess who my university's current president used to work for? :lulz:
This, to me, qualifies as "weird shit".
My new short-term guru (whom I expect to kill at some later date) suggests that this merely means I do not have enough information.
So, given a spectrum of ass-pulling guesses, I'm going to say there seems to be a high probability that some new kind of jet engine or other stealth airplane technology is being developed and tested, which killed the birds (evidence of blunt force trauma suggests this).
I think that the fish kill, which is much more common, is coincidental.
Read an article about this today... they said it was most likely fireworks.
Seems to me Occam's Razor would agree that this is the easiest rational answer, given the time of year.
Quote from: Hoopla on January 05, 2011, 02:19:55 PM
Read an article about this today... they said it was most likely fireworks.
Seems to me Occam's Razor would agree that this is the easiest rational answer, given the time of year.
Sounds likely....only would the fireworks do damage consistent with the kind found in the birds? From what I read, there were no external signs of injury, only internal....I guess it is possible, theoretically, that the burst of the fireworks could cause internal damage without external injuries, but I'd like to make sure.
Which means I'm off with a net and some surplus fireworks in an hour.
Quote from: Hoopla on January 05, 2011, 02:19:55 PM
Read an article about this today... they said it was most likely fireworks.
Seems to me Occam's Razor would agree that this is the easiest rational answer, given the time of year.
The only problem being, why would this be the first time this had happened? I mean, birds tend to flock/nest/migrate in predictable patterns. If fireworks could startle them enough to kill, shouldn't we have seen this happen in Arkansas every New Year's Eve?
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 05, 2011, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 05, 2011, 02:19:55 PM
Read an article about this today... they said it was most likely fireworks.
Seems to me Occam's Razor would agree that this is the easiest rational answer, given the time of year.
The only problem being, why would this be the first time this had happened? I mean, birds tend to flock/nest/migrate in predictable patterns. If fireworks could startle them enough to kill, shouldn't we have seen this happen in Arkansas every New Year's Eve?
RANDOM CHANCE
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Quote from: The Poster With No Name on January 05, 2011, 02:23:00 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 05, 2011, 02:19:55 PM
Read an article about this today... they said it was most likely fireworks.
Seems to me Occam's Razor would agree that this is the easiest rational answer, given the time of year.
Sounds likely....only would the fireworks do damage consistent with the kind found in the birds? From what I read, there were no external signs of injury, only internal....I guess it is possible, theoretically, that the burst of the fireworks could cause internal damage without external injuries, but I'd like to make sure.
Which means I'm off with a net and some surplus fireworks in an hour.
I should have been more clear. The article said their guess was that fireworks had frightened and discombobulated the birds enough that they were smashing into buildings and one another.
Might've been a bigger firework display than normal/more powerful explosives etc
Also, weren't the blackbirds reported as flying at night? And didn't the article say that was unusual for them? Blackbirds dont usually get hit by fireworks because you don't launch fireworks during the day. But if something were to have caused them to fly at this unusual time, it could explain the relative uniqueness of the event.
I'm going to need a bigger net. And some natural predators.
Quote from: Hoopla on January 05, 2011, 02:30:28 PM
Quote from: The Poster With No Name on January 05, 2011, 02:23:00 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 05, 2011, 02:19:55 PM
Read an article about this today... they said it was most likely fireworks.
Seems to me Occam's Razor would agree that this is the easiest rational answer, given the time of year.
Sounds likely....only would the fireworks do damage consistent with the kind found in the birds? From what I read, there were no external signs of injury, only internal....I guess it is possible, theoretically, that the burst of the fireworks could cause internal damage without external injuries, but I'd like to make sure.
Which means I'm off with a net and some surplus fireworks in an hour.
I should have been more clear. The article said their guess was that fireworks had frightened and discombobulated the birds enough that they were smashing into buildings and one another.
Ah, right. Still, I would imagine that would've caused some external damage...but then again, maybe not. At least, not detectable, so long as bones didn't break. Vetinary surgeons and the like don't usually treat animals for bruising and contusions, so they may not have recognized the signs...also, such signs may have decayed by the time they were able to start investigating, and I've never heard of a forensic vetinary specialists, so maybe such signs just eluded them?
Could be. Personally, I would prefer to go with LMNO's theory... it's just weird shit.
Here's the real cause of all the birds falling out of the sky:
http://theclicker.todayshow.com/_news/2011/01/05/5769949-hurleys-numbers-pay-off-for-lost-fans
Quote"Lost" fans got lucky in Tuesday's Mega Millions drawing. Those who played Hurley's sometimes cursed, sometimes lottery-winning numbers raked in a reward.
A small reward.
Only four of the six all-important numbers from the show rolled out of the Mega Millions barrels, so instead of winning the $355 million jackpot, or even matching Hurley's $114 million, loyal "Lost" fans holding tickets bearing the numbers 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42 won just about enough to buy the series on DVD.
I can only imagine the cataclysmic carnage had all 6 numbers been matched.
Quote from: The Poster With No Name on January 05, 2011, 02:30:35 PM
Might've been a bigger firework display than normal/more powerful explosives etc
Also, weren't the blackbirds reported as flying at night? And didn't the article say that was unusual for them? Blackbirds dont usually get hit by fireworks because you don't launch fireworks during the day. But if something were to have caused them to fly at this unusual time, it could explain the relative uniqueness of the event.
I'm going to need a bigger net. And some natural predators.
IMO the Louisiana incident disqualifies the explanation of fireworks.
Has anyone else's pets been acting strangely?
Quote from: Fujikoma on January 05, 2011, 03:30:28 PM
Has anyone else's pets been acting strangely?
MINE QUIT POOMPING ON THE FLOOR!!!!!!
The birds got blinded by the light reflecting off of Venus, and choked to death on swamp gas.
Nothing to see here, citizens. Move along.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2011, 04:05:33 PM
The birds got blinded by the light reflecting off of Venus, and choked to death on swamp gas.
Nothing to see here, citizens. Move along.
:lulz:
My absolute favorite reasoning for almost everything!!!
Also, birds are prone to heart attacks when startled.
Maybe something scared them to death that night, right? Maybe, just maybe, whatever it was will notice all the houses down below.
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ZOMG!!! That guy in the back, it was him, and it looks like....Bernie Sanders!
It's the socialists I tell you! Glenn Beck was right!
Quote from: Hoopla on January 05, 2011, 02:19:55 PM
Read an article about this today... they said it was most likely fireworks.
Seems to me Occam's Razor would agree that this is the easiest rational answer, given the time of year.
The fireworks explanation seems more like "grasping in the dark" than "Occams razor". Not only that, but when you start to dissect it, it's outright preposterous.
Where is the evidence? Where is the precedent? Why is the "explanation" completely in defiance of normal bird behavior?
The birds started falling around 4 in the morning... who was setting off enormous fireworks at 4am?
Blackbirds are diurnal; why were they flying at night?
Hmm... good point.
To be fair, I don't believe the article claimed they knew what happened, just offering a possibility. I may have made it sound more definitive than I meant to, I don't recall my exact wording now.
How do they know the birds started falling at 4 am?
Also, was this the same state that the fish started going belly-up, and if so, were the two incidences near one another?
Clowns using magnets is the best theory so far
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2011, 04:14:04 PM
Also, birds are prone to heart attacks when startled.
Maybe something scared them to death that night, right? Maybe, just maybe, whatever it was will notice all the houses down below.
This is my favorite theory so far.
Quote from: Hoopla on January 05, 2011, 06:29:46 PM
Hmm... good point.
To be fair, I don't believe the article claimed they knew what happened, just offering a possibility. I may have made it sound more definitive than I meant to, I don't recall my exact wording now.
How do they know the birds started falling at 4 am?
Also, was this the same state that the fish started going belly-up, and if so, were the two incidences near one another?
Eyewitnesses noticed them falling. That must have been the creepiest thing EVER.
Nobody knows exactly what time the fish died, but it was about 100 miles away.
Quote from: Nigel on January 06, 2011, 12:41:21 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 05, 2011, 06:29:46 PM
Also, was this the same state that the fish started going belly-up, and if so, were the two incidences near one another?
Nobody knows exactly what time the fish died, but it was about 100 miles away.
THEY'RE TOTALLY LINKED! :gheyforum:
PLAUSIBLE EXPLANATION DISCOVERED
Quote from: The Lüshi chunqiu by Lü Buwei[Concerning the Son of Heaven]
If at the beginning of spring you issue summer ordinances, then wind and rain will be untimely, grass and trees will early wither, and there will be great fear in the capital.
If you issue autumn ordinances, then there will be great epidemics among the people, strong winds and thunderstorms will come intermittently, briars, darnel, brambles, and wormwood will grow together with the crops. If you carry out winter ordinances, floods and heavy rains will be devastating, frost and snow greatly damaging, and the crops will not mature.
When the Son of Heaven is not in Harmony with the dictates of Heaven, it has negative impacts not only on a political but also on a geographical and biological level.
Obama is clearly not leading in accordance with the dictates of Heaven, and is not a Sage-Ruler. His lords and advisors must dispose of him, and if not, we must dispose of them and him to bring about Harmonious Leadership under Heaven.
FOR THE BIRDS!
I find it curious that these were not just random kills of birds and fish. The fish, for example, were not of many species which is what would be expected during a fish kill, but all of one species. As a person with a background in fisheries biology, I can tell you that this is highly unusual, and has only occured (afaik) in the case of diseases. Rotenone would not do this, nor would arsenic or any other well known toxin because they are non-specific.
Likewise, the birds were all starlings and redwinged blackbirds. Not, for example, sparrows.
There's something weird going on here, and I'm not about to cast stupid ideas around about what it might be.
So I get online this morning and this is the first thing I see....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110107/ap_on_sc/us_sci_dead_wildlife_fact_check (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110107/ap_on_sc/us_sci_dead_wildlife_fact_check)
QuoteBlame technology, says famed Harvard biologist E.O. Wilson. With the Internet, cell phones and worldwide communications, people are noticing events, connecting the dots more.
"This instant and global communication, it's just a human instinct to read mystery and portents of dangers and wondrous things in events that are unusual," Wilson told The Associated Press on Thursday. "Not to worry, these are not portents that the world is about to come to an end."
Wilson and the others say instant communications — especially when people can whip out smart phones to take pictures of critter carcasses and then post them on the Internet — is giving a skewed view of what is happening in the environment.
Uh huh. So essentially this article says these kind of die offs happen all the time, we just didn't know about them. But since suddenly in the year 2010 there are cell phones and cameras etc we are now aware of something that has been happening all along? :?
Really?
I have to agree with Kai. I think something is going on and I'll go a step further and say I think the government is covering it up.
An additional piece(s) of information:
- While there are usually fireworks on NYE, the Arkansas site reports that commercial (high grade) fireworks were detonated, rattling windows in the area.
- First dead birds noticed shortly after midnight, NYE.
- These birds are known to gather in large numbers prior to migration.
- Ornithologists noticed a higher-than-average amount of birds in the area.
No conclusions drawn.
Quote from: Niamh on January 07, 2011, 03:03:44 PM
So I get online this morning and this is the first thing I see....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110107/ap_on_sc/us_sci_dead_wildlife_fact_check (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110107/ap_on_sc/us_sci_dead_wildlife_fact_check)
QuoteBlame technology, says famed Harvard biologist E.O. Wilson. With the Internet, cell phones and worldwide communications, people are noticing events, connecting the dots more.
"This instant and global communication, it's just a human instinct to read mystery and portents of dangers and wondrous things in events that are unusual," Wilson told The Associated Press on Thursday. "Not to worry, these are not portents that the world is about to come to an end."
Wilson and the others say instant communications — especially when people can whip out smart phones to take pictures of critter carcasses and then post them on the Internet — is giving a skewed view of what is happening in the environment.
Uh huh. So essentially this article says these kind of die offs happen all the time, we just didn't know about them. But since suddenly in the year 2010 there are cell phones and cameras etc we are now aware of something that has been happening all along? :?
Really?
I have to agree with Kai. I think something is going on and I'll go a step further and say I think the government is covering it up.
That does make some sense, though. With all the social networking that has been spreading recently (mostly in the last 5 years or so. ZOMG, Lo5s!!) it would make sense that some things (not saying necessarily
this case) which had always happened randomly around the globe in relatively small geographical areas would now be focused on more heavily.
Conversely, this is also the same reason that UFOs seem less and less likely. With all the cell phone cams, etc, if they are really flying around it seems likely that someone would have nabbed some good footage by now.
We set off massive commercial fireworks around here every year, many times a year, over wetlands, and we have huge red-winged blackbird populations. Nothing like this has ever happened once. Birds frightened to death tend to die at the time of the fright, and don't continue to fly around and drop dead hours after the fright.
Just sayin'.
Also, the idea that prior to 2011 human technology was simply too primitive to document such occurrences = LOL.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 07, 2011, 03:40:37 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 07, 2011, 03:09:59 PM
No conclusions drawn.
Oh, yeah, the fact that you concluded with that TOTALLY means that no one should reply to your preceding statements with relevant facts. :roll:
Quote from: Nigel on January 07, 2011, 03:41:23 PM
Also, the idea that prior to 2011 human technology was simply too primitive to document such occurrences = LOL.
I hope that's not directed at me, because that was not the intended message of my post. Just saying that we will be seeing things, and probably have been seeing things, in the last few years and upcoming years that have been happening randomly at irregular intervals in the past, due to the saturation of information which is accompanying social networking. Not that technology was too primitive before, it simply wasn't as ubiquitous.
Quote from: Nigel on January 07, 2011, 03:42:45 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 07, 2011, 03:40:37 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 07, 2011, 03:09:59 PM
No conclusions drawn.
Oh, yeah, the fact that you concluded with that TOTALLY means that no one should reply to your preceding statements with relevant facts. :roll:
Fine, don't believe me. I haven't been convinced in any specific direction, I'm just trying to see what facts exist, and which speculations may fit them.
For example, autopsies have shown physica trauma, and no evidence of toxins.
And if you recall, my first wild guess was some sort of military jet/stealth technology that collided or buffetted the birds, using NYE as cover.
Well, my money is on E.O Wilson's explanation which is basically that this is a Law of 5s thing.
Oh hey, while I was typing this I looked down and found a quarter. Neat.
Quote from: Hoopla on January 07, 2011, 03:45:49 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 07, 2011, 03:41:23 PM
Also, the idea that prior to 2011 human technology was simply too primitive to document such occurrences = LOL.
I hope that's not directed at me, because that was not the intended message of my post. Just saying that we will be seeing things, and probably have been seeing things, in the last few years and upcoming years that have been happening randomly at irregular intervals in the past, due to the saturation of information which is accompanying social networking. Not that technology was too primitive before, it simply wasn't as ubiquitous.
Not at you personally, but at the people quoted as presenting that as an explanation.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 07, 2011, 03:48:03 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 07, 2011, 03:42:45 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 07, 2011, 03:40:37 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 07, 2011, 03:09:59 PM
No conclusions drawn.
Oh, yeah, the fact that you concluded with that TOTALLY means that no one should reply to your preceding statements with relevant facts. :roll:
Fine, don't believe me. I haven't been convinced in any specific direction, I'm just trying to see what facts exist, and which speculations may fit them.
For example, autopsies have shown physica trauma, and no evidence of toxins.
And if you recall, my first wild guess was some sort of military jet/stealth technology that collided or buffetted the birds, using NYE as cover.
On what planet does replying to the facts you've presented equal assuming that you have come to a conclusion?
I have a distinct feeling this is merely a communication problem we've got going on, so I'm not gonna fight.
Anyone want to lay bets that there will never be any real investigation into this?
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 07, 2011, 04:42:14 PM
I have a distinct feeling this is merely a communication problem we've got going on, so I'm not gonna fight.
Anyone want to lay bets that there will never be any real investigation into this?
There will be, but the government won't give a grant to the university that's going to do it, so we'll never hear about it.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 07, 2011, 04:42:14 PM
I have a distinct feeling this is merely a communication problem we've got going on, so I'm not gonna fight.
Anyone want to lay bets that there will never be any real investigation into this?
Yes. That is correct. I am not arguing with you, I am replying to the facts which you presented, expressing my skepticism that they explain what happened to the birds.
And yes, I suspect there will never be any real investigation.
It all sounds suspiciously like the prologue to a dystopian story.
"Nobody realized it at the time, but it all started with the dying birds."
It's a really nasty solar flare that's making life on Earth become lethally stupid.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 07, 2011, 05:12:21 PM
It's a really nasty solar flare that's making life on Earth become lethally stupid.
:mittens:
http://www.good.is/post/gulf-oil-spill-redux-gelatinized-beef-fat-in-the-houston-ship-canal/
http://www.uscgnews.com/go/doc/786/440291/ :fnord: