So I had this job interview a week ago monday, seemed to go pretty well. The recruiter person who set it up for me even said it went pretty well. But she said they felt that my personality wasn't a good match for them. Which they based upon googling me and finding my blog, in which I write mostly discordian-ish stuff. And nothing even particularly offensive even given that.
Which is kind of WTF-ery of the highest order. Guess I'm kind of a dumb spag for having stuff that's associated to me, although that really only because of my domain, as far as I know. So I dunno. On the one hand, not sure I want anyone who'd be that upset over that sort of thing to hire me. On the other, would kind of like to be employable at some level.
Mainly though, it just kind of pisses me off.
(the blog being at http://junkmail.eristic.org if anyone wants to see. though maybe it won't be there for long :P)
This is why you write under a pseudonym. For real.
I guess the important thing to ask is how they traced it back to you?
You can keep the blog, but it might be a good idea to scrub out anything that specifically identifies you as the author.
Yep. Pretty sure it's not google-able to me, I figure you can there by way of my email address so that'll go away. Other than that, just angry at myself mainly. It's all just par for the course, lately, anyway.
Live and learn, to a certain extent.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2011, 08:26:16 PM
This is why you write under a pseudonym. For real.
This. Holy names have a reason other than self-importance and pomp.
Tricksy people could probably follow my Discordian online identity to my "real name" fairly easily, but I doubt it would be as easy to trace my "real name" back to Hoopla.
Quote from: MisterDiskord on January 26, 2011, 08:29:40 PM
Yep. Pretty sure it's not google-able to me, I figure you can there by way of my email address so that'll go away. Other than that, just angry at myself mainly. It's all just par for the course, lately, anyway.
Live and learn, to a certain extent.
Multiple email addresses. I have about 20.
I can't believe you couldn't swing that -- other than fucking with people "for the lulz" (i.e.Sowing Discord), many of the principles of Discordia can easily be spun for a work environment.
I didn't get any opportunity to, they never spoke directly to me about it, just passed the message along via the recruiter. Which in one way makes me feel like I dodged a bullet, but I'm hardening up a little bit going further.
I suggest you datamine yourself. Go to a third-party computer (library, or something), and using only the information on your resume, try to find all the horrible shit you do IRL.
Then cover your tracks, wait a week, and try it again.
Quote from: MisterDiskord on January 26, 2011, 08:40:36 PM
I didn't get any opportunity to, they never spoke directly to me about it, just passed the message along via the recruiter. Which in one way makes me feel like I dodged a bullet, but I'm hardening up a little bit going further.
At the top of the page:
Same shit, different year: Mungday is upon us, Chaos is upon us, All Hail Discordia!
I wouldn't hire you either if I were a recruiter. There probably wasn't a bullet to dodge, they just thought that you were weird or unstable.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 26, 2011, 08:42:53 PM
I suggest you datamine yourself. Go to a third-party computer (library, or something), and using only the information on your resume, try to find all the horrible shit you do IRL.
Then cover your tracks, wait a week, and try it again.
Or have one of us do it. I am more than a little nasty with google-fu.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on January 26, 2011, 08:43:23 PM
Quote from: MisterDiskord on January 26, 2011, 08:40:36 PM
I didn't get any opportunity to, they never spoke directly to me about it, just passed the message along via the recruiter. Which in one way makes me feel like I dodged a bullet, but I'm hardening up a little bit going further.
At the top of the page:
Same shit, different year: Mungday is upon us, Chaos is upon us, All Hail Discordia!
I wouldn't hire you either if I were a recruiter. There probably wasn't a bullet to dodge, they just thought that you were weird or unstable.
Hence my continual hollering about blending in. Look like Joe Professional, or blue collar, or homemaker, or whatever. DON'T be the guy with the purple and orange hair and the cranium piercing, figuratively or literally.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2011, 08:48:42 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 26, 2011, 08:42:53 PM
I suggest you datamine yourself. Go to a third-party computer (library, or something), and using only the information on your resume, try to find all the horrible shit you do IRL.
Then cover your tracks, wait a week, and try it again.
Or have one of us do it. I am more than a little nasty with google-fu.
I didn't want to scare the guy, Roger. You'd probably end up telling him his shoe size, and how many condoms he uses weekly.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2011, 08:50:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on January 26, 2011, 08:43:23 PM
Quote from: MisterDiskord on January 26, 2011, 08:40:36 PM
I didn't get any opportunity to, they never spoke directly to me about it, just passed the message along via the recruiter. Which in one way makes me feel like I dodged a bullet, but I'm hardening up a little bit going further.
At the top of the page:
Same shit, different year: Mungday is upon us, Chaos is upon us, All Hail Discordia!
I wouldn't hire you either if I were a recruiter. There probably wasn't a bullet to dodge, they just thought that you were weird or unstable.
Hence my continual hollering about blending in. Look like Joe Professional, or blue collar, or homemaker, or whatever. DON'T be the guy with the purple and orange hair and the cranium piercing, figuratively or literally.
Chapter 27 A good mindfuck leaves no reasons;
A good sabateur leaves no evidence;
A good artist leaves new questions;
A good barstool removes much idle speculation;
The perfect prison cell looks like the environment;
A nice tie opens many doors.
So a wise spag knows how to blend in,
and takes their freedom once inside.
They understand the people around them,
and know how to get things done.
This is called "Tweaking the Machine™".
Those who proclaim their individuality by following rebels
are still grey, though their fingernails be black.
Such things bring my palms to my face.
The Machine™ cannot be stopped.
But you can gradually redesign it
part by part,
party by party.
Chapter 30 If you're going to do some Covert Ops in the name of Discordia,
keep your head down, and Keep Your Fucking Mouth Shut.
A mowhawk is as good as a target during Police Action.
The wise spags toss a wrench into the Machine™,
and then walk away.
They strike against Authority, but don't put it on the Internet.
They subvert the paradigm, but don't stick around to watch.
They mindfuck the people, but don't pat themselves on the back.
If two people know a thing, it is not a secret.
Getting away with it means staying away from it.
Also:
Chapter 63
Don't impose Order.
Don't escalate Disorder.
Unless the situation demands it, of course.
Learn to sabotage the Machine™ without getting caught.
Walk through the crowd unnoticed,
while slipping firecrackers into their pockets.
Become the faceless walking Glitch
who makes everyone's day just a little bit stranger.
The wise spags don't seek recognition,
and so leave a wake behind them wherever they go.
Being an attention whore
is like a magnet for batons
when the riots start.
and
Chapter 61
A successful cabal is like a dust cloud,
arriving from nowhere,
ungraspable,
and fading into nothingness.
The tallest blade of grass gets cut,
while the crab grass creeps unharmed.
Keep your head down.
Keep your fucking mouth shut.
Thus by concentrating on goals
without playing ego games,
much can be accomplished.
If all you want to do
is brag about how cool you are,
you might want learn to play the guitar, instead.
:mittens:
Well anyway, thanks for the support and advice, ya'll. I'll be doing what I can, hoping the Googles forget things, and trying to find more sane employment. Hopefully one or more of these things will actually happen. In the meantime, fuck everything, and I wish something would go right for a change. I guess we make our own luck and I screwed the pooch.
Hey, Roger.
what's a good resource for learning to datamine well?
searchlores.org
thx, Cram. :D
I had an interview just two weeks ago and I directly spoke about Discordianism* and now I've got the job, maybe its not you're personality that is the problem maybe it was the interviewers.
*I told her it was a religion based on love of disco and the accordion.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 26, 2011, 08:42:53 PM
I suggest you datamine yourself. Go to a third-party computer (library, or something), and using only the information on your resume, try to find all the horrible shit you do IRL.
Then cover your tracks, wait a week, and try it again.
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In addition to Roger's pseudonym advice, what LMNO said.
Google for
firstname lastname
firstnamelastname
f.lastname
f lastname
email@address.com
email firstname
email lastname
etcetera, also any additional stuff in your CV.
One thing though, about what Hoopla said, he's technically right, but there's a difference in stuff you hit on the first page of google, and stuff you find out by following links and crosschecking usernames and writings styles. The latter is known as "stalking" and if your potential future employer is prone to do that, you might want to reconsider the job (or at least your work-ethics).
Quote from: Iptuous on January 26, 2011, 11:57:10 PM
Hey, Roger.
what's a good resource for learning to datamine well?
Quote from: Cramulus on January 27, 2011, 12:08:57 AM
searchlores.org
This. Read all of it.
Last time I tried to promote it (a couple of years back), Nigel remarked she couldn't stand the pompous and arrogant attitude with which most of the essays are written. This is true. But then, Fravia+ was a Belgian Italian. Also, his (and other seekers') pomposity and arrogance in the essays and articles are really pretty much analogous to our usage of "hate" in our rants.
It's a massive trove of knowledge. Unfortunately, a shitload of it is outdated, broken links, etc. But that's not too much of a problem, cause there's other sites discussing Google's new tweaks and special operators and quirks, but the real value in Searchlores is the discussion of techniques.
Quote from: Faust on January 27, 2011, 12:36:26 AM
I had an interview just two weeks ago and I directly spoke about Discordianism* and now I've got the job, maybe its not you're personality that is the problem maybe it was the interviewers.
*I told her it was a religion based on love of disco and the accordion.
I think this is my favorite definition for discordianism I have seen yet!!
As for the OP you've been given better advice than I could give, much of which I will follow myself!
Thanks y'all! Great tips!!
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 26, 2011, 08:53:08 PM
Chapter 27
A good mindfuck leaves no reasons;
A good sabateur leaves no evidence;
A good artist leaves new questions;
A good barstool removes much idle speculation;
The perfect prison cell looks like the environment;
A nice tie opens many doors.
So a wise spag knows how to blend in,
and takes their freedom once inside.
They understand the people around them,
and know how to get things done.
This is called "Tweaking the Machine™".
Those who proclaim their individuality by following rebels
are still grey, though their fingernails be black.
Such things bring my palms to my face.
The Machine™ cannot be stopped.
But you can gradually redesign it
part by part,
party by party.
Chapter 30
If you're going to do some Covert Ops in the name of Discordia,
keep your head down, and Keep Your Fucking Mouth Shut.
A mowhawk is as good as a target during Police Action.
The wise spags toss a wrench into the Machine™,
and then walk away.
They strike against Authority, but don't put it on the Internet.
They subvert the paradigm, but don't stick around to watch.
They mindfuck the people, but don't pat themselves on the back.
If two people know a thing, it is not a secret.
Getting away with it means staying away from it.
It occurs to me that there's a fine line between Ontological Anarchy and just outright sociopathy demarcated only by
intent.
"I'll take your word for it."
:)
Quote from: Faust on January 27, 2011, 12:36:26 AM
I had an interview just two weeks ago and I directly spoke about Discordianism* and now I've got the job, maybe its not you're personality that is the problem maybe it was the interviewers.
*I told her it was a religion based on love of disco and the accordion.
You are implying its not really about that? HERESY
This is why I have never put anything under my real name online, ever.
As far as "The ManTM" is concerned I have an Itunes account, an Amazon account, and a separate email address that is registered to nothing but those two things.
SPEAKING OF WHICH, THERES DISCO MUSIC WITH ACCORDION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIS7N7AsNqo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIS7N7AsNqo)
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on February 07, 2011, 03:38:48 AM
SPEAKING OF WHICH, THERES DISCO MUSIC WITH ACCORDION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIS7N7AsNqo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIS7N7AsNqo)
I see your disco and raise you a techno accordion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVYTaice6jc&feature=related
Luckily, I share the same name as an Asian Wrestler. He tends to take most of the attention.
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on February 07, 2011, 07:30:10 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on February 07, 2011, 03:38:48 AM
SPEAKING OF WHICH, THERES DISCO MUSIC WITH ACCORDION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIS7N7AsNqo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIS7N7AsNqo)
I see your disco and raise you a techno accordion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVYTaice6jc&feature=related
ACCORDION BREAKBEATZ whaat?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DoiBBdjto8
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 26, 2011, 08:53:08 PM
Chapter 27
A good mindfuck leaves no reasons;
A good sabateur leaves no evidence;
A good artist leaves new questions;
A good barstool removes much idle speculation;
The perfect prison cell looks like the environment;
A nice tie opens many doors.
So a wise spag knows how to blend in,
and takes their freedom once inside.
They understand the people around them,
and know how to get things done.
This is called "Tweaking the Machine™".
Those who proclaim their individuality by following rebels
are still grey, though their fingernails be black.
Such things bring my palms to my face.
The Machine™ cannot be stopped.
But you can gradually redesign it
part by part,
party by party.
Chapter 30
If you're going to do some Covert Ops in the name of Discordia,
keep your head down, and Keep Your Fucking Mouth Shut.
A mowhawk is as good as a target during Police Action.
The wise spags toss a wrench into the Machine™,
and then walk away.
They strike against Authority, but don't put it on the Internet.
They subvert the paradigm, but don't stick around to watch.
They mindfuck the people, but don't pat themselves on the back.
If two people know a thing, it is not a secret.
Getting away with it means staying away from it.
What book is this from?
The Chao Te Ching, currently in production over at Literate Chaotic. Check it out.
Quote from: navkat on February 09, 2011, 02:50:20 PM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on February 07, 2011, 07:30:10 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on February 07, 2011, 03:38:48 AM
SPEAKING OF WHICH, THERES DISCO MUSIC WITH ACCORDION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIS7N7AsNqo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIS7N7AsNqo)
I see your disco and raise you a techno accordion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVYTaice6jc&feature=related
ACCORDION BREAKBEATZ whaat?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DoiBBdjto8
Accordion music is so joyful. :lol:
here's some discordian accordian music made by my ex girlfriend and I.
http://www.myspace.com/525991563
Quote from: navkat on February 09, 2011, 02:50:20 PM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on February 07, 2011, 07:30:10 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on February 07, 2011, 03:38:48 AM
SPEAKING OF WHICH, THERES DISCO MUSIC WITH ACCORDION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIS7N7AsNqo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIS7N7AsNqo)
I see your disco and raise you a techno accordion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVYTaice6jc&feature=related
ACCORDION BREAKBEATZ whaat?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DoiBBdjto8
YOU WIN THIS TIME :argh!: