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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Adios on February 01, 2011, 05:52:11 PM

Title: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: Adios on February 01, 2011, 05:52:11 PM
A Swiss male social worker has confessed to abusing 114 children and disabled adults in care homes, over three decades, prosecutors say.

The unnamed man, who worked in nine care homes, also admitted to eight cases of attempted abuse, most of them taking place in the Bern area.

An investigation was launched after two of his alleged victims reported him.

A Bern police official said evidence against the man included photos and video recording the abuse.

"One of the central questions of this investigation is how such levels of abuse could go undetected for so long," said Gabriele Berger, head of Bern police's special investigations unit.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12339534

Words fail me.
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on February 01, 2011, 07:59:20 PM
Goddammit.
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: Suu on February 01, 2011, 08:02:25 PM
Good thing all the crazy shit happens in America. Right?
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: Adios on February 01, 2011, 08:06:11 PM
Quote from: Suu on February 01, 2011, 08:02:25 PM
Good thing all the crazy shit happens in America. Right?

It happens everywhere but in America we trot our nuts right out in front of company.
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: Lies on February 01, 2011, 08:20:10 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 01, 2011, 05:52:11 PM
A Swiss male social worker has confessed to abusing 114 children and disabled adults in care homes, over three decades, prosecutors say.

The unnamed man, who worked in nine care homes, also admitted to eight cases of attempted abuse, most of them taking place in the Bern area.

An investigation was launched after two of his alleged victims reported him.

A Bern police official said evidence against the man included photos and video recording the abuse.

"One of the central questions of this investigation is how such levels of abuse could go undetected for so long," said Gabriele Berger, head of Bern police's special investigations unit.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12339534

Words fail me.

Why the fuck is he unnamed? He lost all rights to privacy when he invaded other peoples privates.
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: Reginald Ret on February 01, 2011, 09:36:03 PM
Because removing his privacy is a death sentence.
Do i need to explain why death sentences are a bad idea?
OK, fine. death is kinda hard to reverse if you fin out you made a mistake, so not killing people is a good general rule.
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 01, 2011, 09:38:54 PM
Quote from: Lies on February 01, 2011, 08:20:10 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 01, 2011, 05:52:11 PM
A Swiss male social worker has confessed to abusing 114 children and disabled adults in care homes, over three decades, prosecutors say.

The unnamed man, who worked in nine care homes, also admitted to eight cases of attempted abuse, most of them taking place in the Bern area.

An investigation was launched after two of his alleged victims reported him.

A Bern police official said evidence against the man included photos and video recording the abuse.

"One of the central questions of this investigation is how such levels of abuse could go undetected for so long," said Gabriele Berger, head of Bern police's special investigations unit.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12339534

Words fail me.

Why the fuck is he unnamed? He lost all rights to privacy when he invaded other peoples privates.

Oh, probably because the confession doesn't count as a conviction until a court accepts it and sentences him.

Sorry, rule of law trumps your morbid curiousity and sense of outrage.
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 01, 2011, 09:43:07 PM
In addition, it's hilarious watching you explain how rights to privacy in Switzerland should work...From Australia.

I think the Swiss should have a say in that, don't you?
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: Richter on February 01, 2011, 10:47:30 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 01, 2011, 08:06:11 PM
Quote from: Suu on February 01, 2011, 08:02:25 PM
Good thing all the crazy shit happens in America. Right?

It happens everywhere but in America we trot our nuts right out in front of company.

I don't thing this guy had any issues trotting his nuts out.























AMIRITE?
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: Phox on February 02, 2011, 12:42:30 AM
@thread  :facepalm:
Quote from: Richter on February 01, 2011, 10:47:30 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 01, 2011, 08:06:11 PM
Quote from: Suu on February 01, 2011, 08:02:25 PM
Good thing all the crazy shit happens in America. Right?

It happens everywhere but in America we trot our nuts right out in front of company.

I don't thing this guy had any issues trotting his nuts out.























AMIRITE?
@ Richter(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o214/tripleshady180/Double_Facepalm.jpg)

ETA: Hotlink fail.
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: Lies on February 02, 2011, 03:52:42 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 01, 2011, 09:43:07 PM
In addition, it's hilarious watching you explain how rights to privacy in Switzerland should work...From Australia.

I think the Swiss should have a say in that, don't you?
I'm not explaining anything.
Over here in Australia, if you're suspected of doing some big crime, your name is all over the papers. It's the hypocrisy of it all that really gets to me.
And no, I don't approve of it.

Anyway, I don't give a fuck who he is, I just think if he did what he confess' too, I hope he meets "Bubba" and the gang inside the cell for a bit of his own medicine.
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: Triple Zero on February 02, 2011, 08:37:02 AM
Quote from: Suu on February 01, 2011, 08:02:25 PM
Good thing all the crazy shit happens in America. Right?

There's something seriously wrong with those Alps and their purple cows.



Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on February 02, 2011, 09:07:34 AM
Quote from: Lies on February 02, 2011, 03:52:42 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 01, 2011, 09:43:07 PM
In addition, it's hilarious watching you explain how rights to privacy in Switzerland should work...From Australia.

I think the Swiss should have a say in that, don't you?
I'm not explaining anything.
Over here in Australia, if you're suspected of doing some big crime, your name is all over the papers. It's the hypocrisy of it all that really gets to me.
And no, I don't approve of it.

Anyway, I don't give a fuck who he is, I just think if he did what he confess' too, I hope he meets "Bubba" and the gang inside the cell for a bit of his own medicine.

Its my understanding that Swiss prisons are a bit gentler on criminals than what we are used to.
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: Lies on February 02, 2011, 11:51:51 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on February 02, 2011, 09:07:34 AM
Quote from: Lies on February 02, 2011, 03:52:42 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 01, 2011, 09:43:07 PM
In addition, it's hilarious watching you explain how rights to privacy in Switzerland should work...From Australia.

I think the Swiss should have a say in that, don't you?
I'm not explaining anything.
Over here in Australia, if you're suspected of doing some big crime, your name is all over the papers. It's the hypocrisy of it all that really gets to me.
And no, I don't approve of it.

Anyway, I don't give a fuck who he is, I just think if he did what he confess' too, I hope he meets "Bubba" and the gang inside the cell for a bit of his own medicine.

Its my understanding that Swiss prisons are a bit gentler on criminals than what we are used to.

And media laws I would take it as well.

As much as I'd hate to admit it cus it goes against my truthiness of what should happen to this man, I have to agree, it probably is better that way.
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: Triple Zero on February 02, 2011, 01:18:20 PM
In the Netherlands, the press usually refers to criminals as "Firstname L." but that's just a tradition, not a law, and recent "younger" media outlets are using "Firstname Lastname".

I dunno, I think it's a good thing to censor the name as long as a conviction has not yet been made. After that, I believe the data is public anyway [in NL, at least], and it's up to the press to print it or not.

In this case, while the man has confessed, it seems the court has not yet finished doing its thing, so I can imagine the name being withheld (even though in this case it's more a technicality than anything).
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 02, 2011, 02:19:33 PM
Quote from: Lies on February 02, 2011, 03:52:42 AM
Over here in Australia, if you're suspected of doing some big crime, your name is all over the papers. It's the hypocrisy of it all that really gets to me.

What hypocrisy?
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 02, 2011, 02:21:19 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 02, 2011, 01:18:20 PM
In this case, while the man has confessed, it seems the court has not yet finished doing its thing, so I can imagine the name being withheld (even though in this case it's more a technicality than anything).

A confession is in itself not a conviction, for reasons that are self-evident to anyone who has dealt with cops in Chicago or LA, for example.

Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: Phox on February 02, 2011, 02:23:49 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 02, 2011, 02:21:19 PM
A confession is in itself not a conviction, for reasons that are self-evident to anyone who has dealt with cops in Chicago or LA, for example.


Oh fuck yes. I posit that anyone who has dealt with Illinois State Police feels the same.
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: Lies on February 02, 2011, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 02, 2011, 02:19:33 PM
Quote from: Lies on February 02, 2011, 03:52:42 AM
Over here in Australia, if you're suspected of doing some big crime, your name is all over the papers. It's the hypocrisy of it all that really gets to me.

What hypocrisy?

All of it. All the damn mother fucking hypocrisy. If you can't SMELL it, if you can't BREATHE IT IN without wanting to TASTE IT, if you can't  LOOK AROUND and NOT WANT TO THROW STUFF, If you should give it a DONKEY, WHICH IS AN ASS, WHICH IS WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE THAT ARE THE SOURCE OF THE HYPOCRISY, THEN YOU MY FRIEND, JUST MIGHT BE a little bit blind and have wilfully excused it's existence,  AND YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOUR IS A TERRORIST FROM SOMALIA WHO USED TO EAT CHILDREN BUT NOW HE'S A PRIEST THAT CONVERTS PEOPLE TO CATHOLISISM, AND UNICORNS SHIT DOWN YOUR HERPES INFESTED LACABRE  while your dog tries to learn new tricks.

Further more,
People who are innocent, having their names published, and their reputation tainted even if they are found not guilty, for the rest of their lives, while those who are definitely guilty have the right to not be identified.

It's just Hypocracy, it's everywhere, if you question it's existence, I'm going to call you out on being a Hypocrite.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a hot date with someone who isn't a hypocrite.
That's right, no-one.  

Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 02, 2011, 03:07:04 PM
Quote from: Lies on February 02, 2011, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 02, 2011, 02:19:33 PM
Quote from: Lies on February 02, 2011, 03:52:42 AM
Over here in Australia, if you're suspected of doing some big crime, your name is all over the papers. It's the hypocrisy of it all that really gets to me.

What hypocrisy?

All of it. All the damn mother fucking hypocrisy. If you can't SMELL it, if you can't BREATHE IT IN without wanting to TASTE IT, if you can't  LOOK AROUND and NOT WANT TO THROW STUFF, If you should give it a DONKEY, WHICH IS AN ASS, WHICH IS WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE THAT ARE THE SOURCE OF THE HYPOCRISY, THEN YOU MY FRIEND, JUST MIGHT BE a little bit blind and have wilfully excused it's existence,  AND YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOUR IS A TERRORIST FROM SOMALIA WHO USED TO EAT CHILDREN BUT NOW HE'S A PRIEST THAT CONVERTS PEOPLE TO CATHOLISISM, AND UNICORNS SHIT DOWN YOUR HERPES INFESTED LACABRE  while your dog tries to learn new tricks.

Further more,
People who are innocent, having their names published, and their reputation tainted even if they are found not guilty, for the rest of their lives, while those who are definitely guilty have the right to not be identified.

It's just Hypocracy, it's everywhere, if you question it's existence, I'm going to call you out on being a Hypocrite.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a hot date with someone who isn't a hypocrite.
That's right, no-one.  



So...Hypocrisy is now defined as "Switzerland not doing things like Australia does."

Interesting.
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: Phox on February 02, 2011, 03:10:55 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 02, 2011, 03:07:04 PM
Quote from: Lies on February 02, 2011, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 02, 2011, 02:19:33 PM
Quote from: Lies on February 02, 2011, 03:52:42 AM
Over here in Australia, if you're suspected of doing some big crime, your name is all over the papers. It's the hypocrisy of it all that really gets to me.

What hypocrisy?

All of it. All the damn mother fucking hypocrisy. If you can't SMELL it, if you can't BREATHE IT IN without wanting to TASTE IT, if you can't  LOOK AROUND and NOT WANT TO THROW STUFF, If you should give it a DONKEY, WHICH IS AN ASS, WHICH IS WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE THAT ARE THE SOURCE OF THE HYPOCRISY, THEN YOU MY FRIEND, JUST MIGHT BE a little bit blind and have wilfully excused it's existence,  AND YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOUR IS A TERRORIST FROM SOMALIA WHO USED TO EAT CHILDREN BUT NOW HE'S A PRIEST THAT CONVERTS PEOPLE TO CATHOLISISM, AND UNICORNS SHIT DOWN YOUR HERPES INFESTED LACABRE  while your dog tries to learn new tricks.

Further more,
People who are innocent, having their names published, and their reputation tainted even if they are found not guilty, for the rest of their lives, while those who are definitely guilty have the right to not be identified.

It's just Hypocracy, it's everywhere, if you question it's existence, I'm going to call you out on being a Hypocrite.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a hot date with someone who isn't a hypocrite.
That's right, no-one.  



So...Hypocrisy is now defined as "Switzerland not doing things like Australia does."

Interesting.

In Australia's defense, they did produce Julian Assange. Every country should have people like him. Even Switzerland.
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: Lies on February 02, 2011, 03:22:28 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 02, 2011, 03:07:04 PM
Quote from: Lies on February 02, 2011, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 02, 2011, 02:19:33 PM
Quote from: Lies on February 02, 2011, 03:52:42 AM
Over here in Australia, if you're suspected of doing some big crime, your name is all over the papers. It's the hypocrisy of it all that really gets to me.

What hypocrisy?

All of it. All the damn mother fucking hypocrisy. If you can't SMELL it, if you can't BREATHE IT IN without wanting to TASTE IT, if you can't  LOOK AROUND and NOT WANT TO THROW STUFF, If you should give it a DONKEY, WHICH IS AN ASS, WHICH IS WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE THAT ARE THE SOURCE OF THE HYPOCRISY, THEN YOU MY FRIEND, JUST MIGHT BE a little bit blind and have wilfully excused it's existence,  AND YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOUR IS A TERRORIST FROM SOMALIA WHO USED TO EAT CHILDREN BUT NOW HE'S A PRIEST THAT CONVERTS PEOPLE TO CATHOLISISM, AND UNICORNS SHIT DOWN YOUR HERPES INFESTED LACABRE  while your dog tries to learn new tricks.

Further more,
People who are innocent, having their names published, and their reputation tainted even if they are found not guilty, for the rest of their lives, while those who are definitely guilty have the right to not be identified.

It's just Hypocracy, it's everywhere, if you question it's existence, I'm going to call you out on being a Hypocrite.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a hot date with someone who isn't a hypocrite.
That's right, no-one.  



So...Hypocrisy is now defined as "Switzerland not doing things like Australia does."

Interesting.

Now that you understand this fundamental truth, you will know why we're called the land from down under. 
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: BadBeast on February 03, 2011, 05:29:40 PM
Quote from: Regret on February 01, 2011, 09:36:03 PM
Because removing his privacy is a death sentence.
Do i need to explain why death sentences are a bad idea?
OK, fine. death is kinda hard to reverse if you fin out you made a mistake, so not killing people is a good general rule.
I'm all in favour of the death penalty for certain crimes, but only in cases where they are absolutely sure that the convicted person is guilty. In other cases where there is a bit of doubt, they could be given life imprisonment, and life should mean life.  :wink:
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: Reginald Ret on February 03, 2011, 07:49:00 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on February 03, 2011, 05:29:40 PM
Quote from: Regret on February 01, 2011, 09:36:03 PM
Because removing his privacy is a death sentence.
Do i need to explain why death sentences are a bad idea?
OK, fine. death is kinda hard to reverse if you fin out you made a mistake, so not killing people is a good general rule.
I'm all in favour of the death penalty for certain crimes, but only in cases where they are absolutely sure that the convicted person is guilty. In other cases where there is a bit of doubt, they could be given life imprisonment, and life should mean life.  :wink:

If they weren't sure they wouldn't convict the person.
The problem arises from people's penchant for being certain of something that is untrue.
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: Adios on February 03, 2011, 07:49:44 PM
Quote from: Regret on February 03, 2011, 07:49:00 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on February 03, 2011, 05:29:40 PM
Quote from: Regret on February 01, 2011, 09:36:03 PM
Because removing his privacy is a death sentence.
Do i need to explain why death sentences are a bad idea?
OK, fine. death is kinda hard to reverse if you fin out you made a mistake, so not killing people is a good general rule.
I'm all in favour of the death penalty for certain crimes, but only in cases where they are absolutely sure that the convicted person is guilty. In other cases where there is a bit of doubt, they could be given life imprisonment, and life should mean life.  :wink:

If they weren't sure they wouldn't convict the person.
The problem arises from people's penchant for being certain of something that is untrue.


Innocent people go to jail all the time.
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 03, 2011, 07:56:05 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on February 03, 2011, 05:29:40 PM
Quote from: Regret on February 01, 2011, 09:36:03 PM
Because removing his privacy is a death sentence.
Do i need to explain why death sentences are a bad idea?
OK, fine. death is kinda hard to reverse if you fin out you made a mistake, so not killing people is a good general rule.
I'm all in favour of the death penalty for certain crimes, but only in cases where they are absolutely sure that the convicted person is guilty. In other cases where there is a bit of doubt, they could be given life imprisonment, and life should mean life.  :wink:


If there's doubt, why is the person being convicted at all?
Title: Re: Man sexually abuses 114 people
Post by: BadBeast on February 03, 2011, 08:54:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 03, 2011, 07:56:05 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on February 03, 2011, 05:29:40 PM
Quote from: Regret on February 01, 2011, 09:36:03 PM
Because removing his privacy is a death sentence.
Do i need to explain why death sentences are a bad idea?
OK, fine. death is kinda hard to reverse if you fin out you made a mistake, so not killing people is a good general rule.
I'm all in favour of the death penalty for certain crimes, but only in cases where they are absolutely sure that the convicted person is guilty. In other cases where there is a bit of doubt, they could be given life imprisonment, and life should mean life.  :wink:


If there's doubt, why is the person being convicted at all?
:mittens:   :lulz: