Works good as a flyer on it's own. What can we add?
It needs a picture. It's a tough one though, to make it all surreal and tasty, without going political and whatnot.
"Or the Baby gets it"
you could use a "World Warefare Fund" logo in the corner?
(http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u337/mtdozier/wwf.jpg)
(like the world wildlife fund, if its not really obvious by my little mash)
(http://i3.ytimg.com/i/ZZldeOoWhKe7SaisbCPk5Q/1.jpg)
ETA: the tank is a copyright image from a googlesearch, and is just used as an example, if that kinda stuff is of concern...
Couple it with a picture of a particularly sad-looking nuclear warhead?
Quote from: Unqualified on February 12, 2011, 04:30:18 AM
Couple it with a picture of a particularly sad-looking nuclear warhead?
Or a maimed Soldier, being helped off the Battlefield by his marginally less maimed Buddy. In the background, an enemy Gunner is carefully taking aim.
"Save the War, while there is still a War to save!"
that would lend sympathy to the individual soldiers, though. which doesn't seem like the point.
you want to appear to be attempting to evoke sympathy for the war itself as endangered...
Y'know, even with just text, this could be really funny to put outside/around Army recruitment centers/booths. I missed a good opportunity last week, they had the Nat'l Guard set up a booth at my school. I was just thinking how funny it would have been to have a "save the war" slogan hanging right behind it. Oh, well. next time.
Maybe some false-facts to go with it? "If we pull our soldiers out, the terrorists have won!" "Ending the war will put millions of americans out of work" and so on. I don't have my computer (computer is dead, long live computer) so if anyone feels like fudging around with the idea, feel free, but unfortunately, I don't currently have the resources to get to it right now :sad:
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx128/ChuckFukmuk/8014DS.jpg)
Oops, wrong War. :oops:
Also: "The pulling out of our troops will be an admission of wrong-doing/failure, and we all know that the fight for democracy and capitalism is the Good Fight"
Quote from: Cuddlefish on February 12, 2011, 05:48:54 PM
Also: "The pulling out of our troops will be an admission of wrong-doing/failure, and we all know that the fight for democracy and capitalism is the Good Fight"
Kinda long, needs to stick in the mind more. Maybe something like "Pulling out troops is an admission of failure." and then "The fight for democracy and capitalism is the Good Fight."
Could also twist around something I came up with a couple of years ago, and say something like "Forcing choice on those who didn't choose it." The point being that invading a country on the pretext of liberating it and changing it to a democracy is hypocritical.
Also you could use some of those old Uncle Sam posters for this.
when i saw the catchphrase at the beginning, obviously being a riff off of, save the whales/rainforrest/spotted owl/fuzzy creature with big eyes/etc..... it seemed good because it was simple, humorous, and the cognitive dissonance of jamming the concept of 'war' into the slot generally occupied by fuzzy cuteness forces the reader to think 'why the fuck would i want to save that?!'
the suggestions here seem too frontal...
why not leave the concept of 'war' as an floating ideal not associated with any current politicized situation?
ETA: if you mention 'pulling the troops out', etc. the reader immediately reaches into his bag of talking points and defends his mind. with the simple 'save the war' message, there's nothing to fight, really. that's why i liked it.
Quote from: Iptuous on February 12, 2011, 06:41:13 PM
when i saw the catchphrase at the beginning, obviously being a riff off of, save the whales/rainforrest/spotted owl/fuzzy creature with big eyes/etc..... it seemed good because it was simple, humorous, and the cognitive dissonance of jamming the concept of 'war' into the slot generally occupied by fuzzy cuteness forces the reader to think 'why the fuck would i want to save that?!'
the suggestions here seem too frontal...
why not leave the concept of 'war' as an floating ideal not associated with any current politicized situation?
ETA: if you mention 'pulling the troops out', etc. the reader immediately reaches into his bag of talking points and defends his mind. with the simple 'save the war' message, there's nothing to fight, really. that's why i liked it.
That's a good point. Maybe graphically, then, some sort of weaponry, like the sad nuke mentioned earlier. I'm not sure if this would be considered politicized, but maybe another subversion of a phrase could be "We need to reduce undeployment"
(http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr126/TGRR/veteran-soldier-tired.jpg)
Quote from: Iptuous on February 12, 2011, 06:41:13 PM
when i saw the catchphrase at the beginning, obviously being a riff off of, save the whales/rainforrest/spotted owl/fuzzy creature with big eyes/etc..... it seemed good because it was simple, humorous, and the cognitive dissonance of jamming the concept of 'war' into the slot generally occupied by fuzzy cuteness forces the reader to think 'why the fuck would i want to save that?!'
the suggestions here seem too frontal...
why not leave the concept of 'war' as an floating ideal not associated with any current politicized situation?
ETA: if you mention 'pulling the troops out', etc. the reader immediately reaches into his bag of talking points and defends his mind. with the simple 'save the war' message, there's nothing to fight, really. that's why i liked it.
I agree, mostly. I think it works well on it's own, with maybe some room for an image. The one you posted below was cool, but the World Warfare Fund concept needs explaination, which just adds more words, and the image isn't friendly and fuzzy enough. I think the challenge here is to find an image that convays the violence of war, but somehow makes it "friendly." Like maybe a tank version of "Thomas the Tank Engine" or something.
As far as the additional text and one-liners, we could save those for a seperate pamphlet. Y'know, have the "Save the War" poster on the wall and the accompanying pamphlet set on a table in front of it with a sign saying: "Free, Take One!"
words, yo.
i like the idea of a thomas the tank look...
i just scrambled that as an idea by googling 'black and white tank' and grabbed off the first page.
a cuter tank would work much better. also i was just thinking of that as a little logo to go in the bottom corner of the poster, not as a primary image.
a separate pamphlet to riff off of the msg is good since the hook is already set.
although just leaving the meme with the dissonance dangling in their mind might be more effective in the long run, since if they get curious and pick up the pamphlet and it says 'message, message, change your perspective' they might just toss it, along with the original meme into the 'wrong people/wrong ideas' circular file, rather than pressing the 'remind me later' button where it will continue to haunt them every two days until they register, which they never will, because they don't know if they can trust it quite yet...
(http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr126/TGRR/Wounded-Soldier-002.jpg)
Maybe the tank could have fighter planes and destroyers for friends?
Actually, the next time there's an election things like this could be used in a faux campaign.
usable?
(http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u337/mtdozier/thomastank.jpg)
ETA:
actually i guess he should be sad...
(http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u337/mtdozier/thomastanksad.jpg)
also, although it's different from what i was thinking, i like that last one, Roger.
:)
Quote from: Iptuous on February 12, 2011, 07:33:58 PM
usable?
(http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u337/mtdozier/thomastank.jpg)
ETA:
actually i guess he should be sad...
(http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u337/mtdozier/thomastanksad.jpg)
I think it needs to be a cartoon character. But it's the right direction fer sher. I'm sure someone here can draw something up, no? I s'pose if not, I could give it a try.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 12, 2011, 07:15:41 PM
(http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr126/TGRR/Wounded-Soldier-002.jpg)
:lulz:
I would offer to try my hand at drawing it, but I don't have a scanner.
ETA: my suggestion to anyone who does, though, would be to make the cannon its nose.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 12, 2011, 06:56:52 PM
(http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr126/TGRR/veteran-soldier-tired.jpg)
:lulz:
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i312/P3nT4gR4m/war.jpg)
This is my take on it. I liked best the nonsensical "eh, huh?" feeling I got from the original phrase. So I tried to incorporate that into this poster:
(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1686/savethewar.png)
I tried to find the most serious-looking font for this. I think it's pretty serious (Monofonto Regular). Also I got the tank clipart from a site that said it was free (though it said a lot of things were free).
Shit.
I totally forgot about this.
All these are pretty awesome! Must find printer nao...