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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: hooplala on February 14, 2011, 03:41:32 AM

Title: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: hooplala on February 14, 2011, 03:41:32 AM
Yesterday, I overheard a conversation between two homeless men who were waiting in a line for lunch at a nearby shelter. I was waiting for a bus on a bench close to where the two were standing, and happened to overhear one of them mention a 'golden apple'. This, of course, piqued my interest, so I began to listen to the two.

It turns out that the 'golden apple' the one man was referring to was what is commonly referred to as an 'Orange', but he is correct that at one time the fruit was called a golden apple - the conversation centered around the man holding the orange trying to convince the other man that the fruit he was holding was in fact blue, not orange.

"It's like this," said the man. "color works in opposites. When you look at an Orange the light bounces off the Orange, and back to your eye. But, the thing is, the thing is this: the Orange absorbs all the colors of the white light, and only bounces back the color orange to your eye. So, really, the Orange is any color BUT orange."

"I don't get it." said the other man. "Why does it look orange to us, then?"

"Because that's the only color bouncing back to your eye. It looks orange because orange is bouncing back. The eye works on opposites. We actually see things upside down, but our eyes correct the image so that we see it normally. And, we usually see in negative, but the eye corrects for that too."

"That's fucked." the other man answered aptly.

It was at this point that I turned to the two men. "I'll tell you what's more fucked. Color doesn't exist at all."

They both just stared at me. I continued: "Think about this: Everything is made from molecules, right? Well, what color are molecules?"

The one man shrugged, and the other said: "I don't know."

I winked. "Exactly. That's because molecules don't have any color. And, if everything is made from molecules, and molecules have no color, than de facto NOTHING has color."

Before either man could respond I disappeared in a puff of smoke.
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: Lies on February 14, 2011, 04:40:59 AM
What colour was the smoke?
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: Phox on February 14, 2011, 05:03:08 AM
Quote from: Lies on February 14, 2011, 04:40:59 AM
What colour was the smoke?

Turquoise.
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: The Johnny on February 14, 2011, 05:04:02 AM
Quote from: Lies on February 14, 2011, 04:40:59 AM
What colour was the smoke?

Like the colour of molecules.
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: Don Coyote on February 14, 2011, 06:33:11 AM
This gave me angry lulz.

You are a bad man Hoopla. :lulz:
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: hooplala on February 14, 2011, 02:15:10 PM
I do what I can.
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: Jenne on February 14, 2011, 02:25:36 PM
Quote from: Canis latrans eques on February 14, 2011, 06:33:11 AM
This gave me angry lulz.

You are a bad man Hoopla. :lulz:

This, though I didn't have ANGRY lulz, just lulzy lulz.
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: Cramulus on February 14, 2011, 02:30:21 PM
This is what happens when you inadvertently invoke Eris in your private conversations. Some nutjob will appear, drop some kind of gnostic mystery, and vanish mysteriously.

Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: AFK on February 14, 2011, 02:30:37 PM
Okay, so in what is probably a poor attempt at humor, I was going to post some witty quote from Stevie Wonder to be all ironic and stuff.

But then doing some Googling I see an article on Wikipedia that lists famous people with  synesthesia.  And apparently Stevie Wonder experiences colors from sound.  

Though, I'm guessing this is probably a joke.  I'm pretty certain Stevie Wonder was blind from birth and I would think wouldn't have much of a concept of color.  
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on February 14, 2011, 02:47:32 PM
Bus stop fun!!   :lulz:

Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: Cain on February 14, 2011, 03:27:48 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 14, 2011, 02:30:37 PM
Okay, so in what is probably a poor attempt at humor, I was going to post some witty quote from Stevie Wonder to be all ironic and stuff.

But then doing some Googling I see an article on Wikipedia that lists famous people with  synesthesia.  And apparently Stevie Wonder experiences colors from sound.  

Though, I'm guessing this is probably a joke.  I'm pretty certain Stevie Wonder was blind from birth and I would think wouldn't have much of a concept of color.  

I'm not so sure.  His kind of blindness is caused by detatched retinas, and can vary from being quite mild to total blindness.  If his sight degraded with age, he may have had some sense of colour.

Also googling around, if this was a spurious addition, it was a damn good one.  I've found articles in major news companies and on University pages which list him with it.  I mean, it's still possible - there was that guy who edited a Wikipedia entry a couple of years back and hoodwinked most of the global media.
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: AFK on February 14, 2011, 03:30:25 PM
Well, I didn't do much digging to validate, just seemed a little odd.

But I guess it might help to explain why he is such a bad-ass musician.
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 14, 2011, 07:50:12 PM
Bad ass musicians need no explanation. Some people are just bad ass musicians - period
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: hooplala on February 14, 2011, 08:11:06 PM
Like Tiny Tim.
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on February 14, 2011, 09:40:13 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on February 14, 2011, 08:11:06 PM
Like Tiny Tim.

That was cruel and for that I give you.....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=skU-jBFzXl0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skU-jBFzXl0)
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: hooplala on February 14, 2011, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: Khara on February 14, 2011, 09:40:13 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on February 14, 2011, 08:11:06 PM
Like Tiny Tim.

That was cruel and for that I give you.....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=skU-jBFzXl0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skU-jBFzXl0)

I happen to LOVE Tiny Tim, and so for that I thank you!
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: Cain on February 14, 2011, 10:18:08 PM
Molecules are actually white and blue balls with green and red balls zipping around the outside.  I've seen models.

*disappears in a blue-white puff of smoke, with bits of green and red on the fringes*
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on February 14, 2011, 10:24:57 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on February 14, 2011, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: Khara on February 14, 2011, 09:40:13 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on February 14, 2011, 08:11:06 PM
Like Tiny Tim.

That was cruel and for that I give you.....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=skU-jBFzXl0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skU-jBFzXl0)

I happen to LOVE Tiny Tim, and so for that I thank you!

Only you Hoops!!!  MUUAAHHH!

Quote from: Cain on February 14, 2011, 10:18:08 PM
Molecules are actually white and blue balls with green and red balls zipping around the outside.  I've seen models.

*disappears in a blue-white puff of smoke, with bits of green and red on the fringes*

:spittake:
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: hooplala on February 14, 2011, 10:31:51 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 14, 2011, 10:18:08 PM
Molecules are actually white and blue balls with green and red balls zipping around the outside.  I've seen models.

*disappears in a blue-white puff of smoke, with bits of green and red on the fringes*

:sad:

...he's right you know.  I had forgotten about that.
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: Phox on February 15, 2011, 01:10:46 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on February 14, 2011, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: Khara on February 14, 2011, 09:40:13 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on February 14, 2011, 08:11:06 PM
Like Tiny Tim.

That was cruel and for that I give you.....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=skU-jBFzXl0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skU-jBFzXl0)

I happen to LOVE Tiny Tim, and so for that I thank you!

I also love Tiny Tim. He's mah hero. Thanks Khara. :)
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: AFK on February 15, 2011, 01:15:58 AM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on February 15, 2011, 01:10:46 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on February 14, 2011, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: Khara on February 14, 2011, 09:40:13 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on February 14, 2011, 08:11:06 PM
Like Tiny Tim.

That was cruel and for that I give you.....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=skU-jBFzXl0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skU-jBFzXl0)

I happen to LOVE Tiny Tim, and so for that I thank you!

I also love Tiny Tim. He's mah hero. Thanks Khara. :)

Me too!  Me too!
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: Telarus on February 15, 2011, 01:30:31 AM
I have heard a SubGenius Spag play Tears for Fears on a Ukulele signed by Tiny Tim.

AT a SubG Devival.

That was nearly a synchronicity overload.

http://www.duke-of-uke.com/

Now the Spag's in my D&D game.
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: hooplala on February 15, 2011, 02:23:47 PM
Apparently he was an encyclopedia about early 20th Century American music.

This thread is now about Tiny Tim.
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: AFK on February 15, 2011, 04:56:31 PM
They don't make entertainers like him anymore.
Title: THE TINY TIM THREAD
Post by: hooplala on February 15, 2011, 04:57:59 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 15, 2011, 04:56:31 PM
They don't make entertainers like him anymore.

I'm not even sure they made them like him when he was around...
Title: Re: The Hoopla Case Against Color
Post by: AFK on February 15, 2011, 05:00:04 PM
True.  Very true.