I was just probed
*pause*
to see if I would be interested in working in Phoenix.
Nothing definite yet.
kind of in shock?
I really like where I'm living right now. Like, a lot. But I'm not closed to the idea of moving somewhere crazy. But phoenix?
whow
it's all still sinking in
Always flattering to be asked to dance.
You'll end up in Tuscon. 169% guaranteed.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on February 25, 2011, 03:32:27 PM
You'll end up in Tuscon. 169% guaranteed.
:lulz:
Then you can NEVER LEAVE!!!!!!
Establish a toehold then start farming out referrals to the rest of us.
Quote from: Richter on February 25, 2011, 03:36:10 PM
Establish a toehold then start farming out referrals to the rest of us.
How much damage could this gang POSSIBLY do, working in the same place?
Phoenix will ea your soul if you aren't careful.
O nthe other hand, you're one of the few people I can thing of it might spit back out.
Here's the conflict, as succinct as possible:
on one hand, I have been looking to further my career. For the last four years, this company has given me sniffs of the carrot without a single bite. I came here seeking a real career ladder, four years later, I'm an admin assistant. So I do want to move up, I want to get some new skills, and I want to start making the big bucks.
on the other hand, I really like where I'm living right now. I worked hard to make a new group of friends and I really dig these guys. My apartment is comfortable, filled with people I love, every morning feels like the intro from Muppets in Space. (Seriously, this is exactly what it's like to live there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh6S1ptZuZg&feature=fvst )
The other day I was walking around Tarrytown and saying to myself, "You know, one day, I could raise kids here." It's really a beautiful little town - low crime, racially diverse, "artsy", you can see the Hudson river from everywhere. At night, the tappan zee bridge is gorgeous (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3177/3003737453_eca4cec394.jpg). At Halloween, the city turns into such a cool place -- I love it here.
But I'm single. My best friend is a cat. I don't have a lot anchoring me.
It's hard to think about throwing it all away and trading it for the unknown --- for some money. Know what I mean?
Quote from: Cramulus on February 25, 2011, 03:48:43 PM
Here's the conflict, as succinct as possible:
on one hand, I have been looking to further my career. For the last four years, this company has given me sniffs of the carrot without a single bite. I came here seeking a real career ladder, four years later, I'm an admin assistant. So I do want to move up, I want to get some new skills, and I want to start making the big bucks.
on the other hand, I really like where I'm living right now. I worked hard to make a new group of friends and I really dig these guys. My apartment is comfortable, filled with people I love, every morning feels like the intro from Muppets in Space. (Seriously, this is exactly what it's like to live there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh6S1ptZuZg&feature=fvst )
The other day I was walking around Tarrytown and saying to myself, "You know, one day, I could raise kids here." It's really a beautiful little town - low crime, racially diverse, "artsy", you can see the Hudson river from everywhere. At night, the tappan zee bridge is gorgeous (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3177/3003737453_eca4cec394.jpg). At Halloween, the city turns into such a cool place -- I love it here.
But I'm single. My best friend is a cat. I don't have a lot anchoring me.
It's hard to think about throwing it all away and trading it for the unknown --- for some money. Know what I mean?
You need to determine your priorities.... Right now, what is best and most important for you to accomplish? Can you do that where you are?
It's when you're comfortable and happy that you should be looking into new opportunities. The ones desperate to get out of their situations are the ones that settle.
I can't tell you that I'd make the move, because it's a big decision, but the unknown itself would be a bigger draw than the money.
I know exactly what you mean, actually.
Very, VERY recently went through a similar thought train. Hate my job. Divorcing my husband...
Stay or go?
Could have gone anywhere, really... Had offers of places to go in three different states, some close, one halfway across the country.
I want an offer to go across the country.... :cry:
Quote from: Cramulus on February 25, 2011, 03:48:43 PM
Here's the conflict, as succinct as possible:
on one hand, I have been looking to further my career. For the last four years, this company has given me sniffs of the carrot without a single bite. I came here seeking a real career ladder, four years later, I'm an admin assistant. So I do want to move up, I want to get some new skills, and I want to start making the big bucks.
on the other hand, I really like where I'm living right now. I worked hard to make a new group of friends and I really dig these guys. My apartment is comfortable, filled with people I love, every morning feels like the intro from Muppets in Space. (Seriously, this is exactly what it's like to live there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh6S1ptZuZg&feature=fvst )
The other day I was walking around Tarrytown and saying to myself, "You know, one day, I could raise kids here." It's really a beautiful little town - low crime, racially diverse, "artsy", you can see the Hudson river from everywhere. At night, the tappan zee bridge is gorgeous (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3177/3003737453_eca4cec394.jpg). At Halloween, the city turns into such a cool place -- I love it here.
But I'm single. My best friend is a cat. I don't have a lot anchoring me.
It's hard to think about throwing it all away and trading it for the unknown --- for some money. Know what I mean?
Fuck the money - that shit is reason enough by itself! You know the known, you've done the motherfucker. How long do you want to do the same shit? Move on, make new friends, go back and see the old ones from time to time, keep in touch, holy shit - now you got even more friends. And all that is simply icing on that yummy unkown cake you get to jump out of and freak yourself out.
Devil's advocate... What's the point of making money?
Comfortable place to live, good friends, somewhere you're actually happy to wake up.
People have attached more Bio-Survival anxiety to money then they care to admit, or even recognize.
Having once been in a state of scraping by on every paycheck, and now being in a place where bills are paid without a second thought, I absolutely prefer the latter.
Boston might be on the table too. I would happily move to Boston.
Minneapolis was mentioned too. *shudder* PASS!
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on February 25, 2011, 04:52:03 PM
People have attached more Bio-Survival anxiety to money then they care to admit, or even recognize.
Having once been in a state of scraping by on every paycheck, and now being in a place where bills are paid without a second thought, I absolutely prefer the latter.
Oh, hell, yes. I've been "do I have enough Ramen noodles to make it to the end of the week" broke, having a steady paycheck is definitely preferable.
But, money is never the ONLY thing to consider.
Of course.
There's also sex.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on February 25, 2011, 04:58:42 PM
Of course.
There's also sex.
Is there? Not sure I remember...
Go if you want the adventure of starting over.
Don't go if you prefer the adventure of new stuff from a safe base.
Go if you want more money.
Don't go if you prefer good friends over money.
Go or don't go, either way... You're Cramulus, and therefore likely to have bizarre adventures staying or going ;-)
Quote from: Cramulus on February 25, 2011, 03:26:56 PM
I was just probed
*pause*
to see if I would be interested in working in Phoenix.
Nothing definite yet.
kind of in shock?
I really like where I'm living right now. Like, a lot. But I'm not closed to the idea of moving somewhere crazy. But phoenix?
whow
it's all still sinking in
Good. We're going to need a 4th in our campaign.
Incidentally, Phoenix is an awful shithole, and you'll leave your soul on the rooftop to dry, each and every night. Sheriff Joe lives there. All the legislators that write these horrible laws live there. And people LOVE them.
It's so bad, the papers here are talking about seceding from the state of Arizona to form a new state, without the evil up North.
So it's
perfect for you, Cram. It's a target-rich environment.
Would you like to know more?
:lulz: you've phrased that in such an alluring way, Roger!
Nothing is definite yet... New Jersey and Boston are higher on my list. They'd have to throw a big wad of cash at me to get me to move to AZ for exactly the reasons you've mentioned. I don't want to live in AZ for the same reasons I don't want to live in Dark Sun. If they offer me a job in NJ, it only adds 20-25 min to my commute and I get to keep my great apartment. If I get a job in Boston, I already know like 20 people there. If they offer me a job in AZ I'll have to make myself some armor out of tires and learn how to throw a javelin.
Quote from: Cramulus on February 25, 2011, 05:31:01 PM
:lulz: you've phrased that in such an alluring way, Roger!
Nothing is definite yet... New Jersey and Boston are higher on my list. They'd have to throw a big wad of cash at me to get me to move to AZ for exactly the reasons you've mentioned. I don't want to live in AZ for the same reasons I don't want to live in Dark Sun. If they offer me a job in NJ, it only adds 20-25 min to my commute and I get to keep my great apartment. If I get a job in Boston, I already know like 20 people there. If they offer me a job in AZ I'll have to make myself some armor out of tires and learn how to throw a javelin.
On the upside, tire armor would be cool.
This needs to be a project for the May Meatup. Everyone bring a roadside tire, I'll bring tools, a worktable, and 100 ft. of paracord so we cn give Cram a road Warrior makeover.
Quote from: Cramulus on February 25, 2011, 05:31:01 PM
:lulz: you've phrased that in such an alluring way, Roger!
Nothing is definite yet... New Jersey and Boston are higher on my list. They'd have to throw a big wad of cash at me to get me to move to AZ for exactly the reasons you've mentioned. I don't want to live in AZ for the same reasons I don't want to live in Dark Sun. If they offer me a job in NJ, it only adds 20-25 min to my commute and I get to keep my great apartment. If I get a job in Boston, I already know like 20 people there. If they offer me a job in AZ I'll have to make myself some armor out of tires and learn how to throw a javelin.
1. You'll be eaten by Guidos in New Jersey. They don't cull them, so they've gotten totally out of control.
2. Boston would rock. If I have my choice of cities to live in, Providence, Boston, and Toronto would be the only 3 I'd consider. Portland, maybe, if I didn't have to make a living.
3. But here in Arizona, Cram, you get to see the hairless apes running around with their pance down and their crazy hanging out. It's not
pretty, but it is
reality. Imagine every dystopian future you can think of, and we already have it...It's like the land of the living dead up there, Cram. Nobody has a soul. It's like
Devil Rain only urban and without William Shatner. On the plus side, it's a mere 90 mile drive to Tucson, where we have perverts and gigantic street parties for no reason, and hardly anyone shoots the ice cream man anymore, and you can drift off to sleep to the sound of small arms fire and the sirens of emergency vehicles, wailing softly as they try to hold back the night.
Quote from: Richter on February 25, 2011, 05:39:15 PM
This needs to be a project for the May Meatup. Everyone bring a roadside tire, I'll bring tools, a worktable, and 100 ft. of paracord so we cn give Cram a road Warrior makeover.
Steel Belted Wisby?
ahhh roger you really are speaking my language. Thanks for reminding me it might not be that bleak. Or at least, it'll be bleak in a good way. :lol:
Quote from: Ratatosk on February 25, 2011, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: Richter on February 25, 2011, 05:39:15 PM
This needs to be a project for the May Meatup. Everyone bring a roadside tire, I'll bring tools, a worktable, and 100 ft. of paracord so we cn give Cram a road Warrior makeover.
Steel Belted Wisby?
Lorrica Michelana?
Quote from: Richter on February 25, 2011, 05:49:54 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on February 25, 2011, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: Richter on February 25, 2011, 05:39:15 PM
This needs to be a project for the May Meatup. Everyone bring a roadside tire, I'll bring tools, a worktable, and 100 ft. of paracord so we cn give Cram a road Warrior makeover.
Steel Belted Wisby?
Lorrica Michelana?
Well, I suppose tires are good for Roamin' around...
Quote from: Cramulus on February 25, 2011, 05:47:18 PM
ahhh roger you really are speaking my language. Thanks for reminding me it might not be that bleak. Or at least, it'll be bleak in a good way. :lol:
It's like living in the Discovery Channel, Cramulus...In every possible meaning that could generate. I love this place, and I'll never leave. Anthropologists never do. I mean, if you want to study people, THIS is where you go. Every human behavior is on display here, right in front of children and stupid people. We live in about
7 8 decades at once, because time is all...
fuzzy, here.
For example, I'm sitting at a 2010s computer in a monster 2000 house on a hill, with cars from the 90s, music from the 80s, and just down the street is the police station, and they still wear fucking
Sam Brown belts because they're stuck in the 30s, and the downtown is the roaring 20s, which are roundly hated by my neighbors, who think they're in 1956. ETA: And everyone's still packing like it's 1880.
And you can't get out.
But why would you
want to?
My Human Origins professor did her thesis in Tucson. I'm not joking.
Quote from: Princess Suu the Apostate on February 25, 2011, 05:57:53 PM
My Human Origins professor did her thesis in Tucson. I'm not joking.
Bad move. This isn't where it
started, this is where it
ends.
FUCK I AM SO MOVINg TO TUSCON!!!!!
Quote from: Cramulus on February 25, 2011, 04:56:19 PM
Boston might be on the table too. I would happily move to Boston.
Minneapolis was mentioned too. *shudder* PASS!
Minneapolis is actually an AWESOME city if you can tolerate the winters.
Personally, I think Phoenix is horrendous, but that wouldn't deter me from moving there if the money was good and it was a move up the career ladder. Admittedly, I'm a money-hungry whore, but my life is also pretty awesome (and more so for having enough money to do what I want) so I'm not sure it's a bad thing. The other thing is, no matter how much you hate a place based on impressions, once you land there you will always manage to find cool people and cool things to do. And hell, a little Cramulus might be
exactly what a place like Phoenix needs.
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on February 25, 2011, 08:21:14 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on February 25, 2011, 04:56:19 PM
Boston might be on the table too. I would happily move to Boston.
Minneapolis was mentioned too. *shudder* PASS!
Minneapolis is actually an AWESOME city if you can tolerate the winters.
Personally, I think Phoenix is horrendous, but that wouldn't deter me from moving there if the money was good and it was a move up the career ladder. Admittedly, I'm a money-hungry whore, but my life is also pretty awesome (and more so for having enough money to do what I want) so I'm not sure it's a bad thing. The other thing is, no matter how much you hate a place based on impressions, once you land there you will always manage to find cool people and cool things to do. And hell, a little Cramulus might be exactly what a place like Phoenix needs.
You should leave his little Cramulus out of it....
Quote from: Canis latrans eques on February 25, 2011, 07:16:14 PM
FUCK I AM SO MOVINg TO TUSCON!!!!!
It's all happy here. All the time. Relentlessly.
(http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr126/TGRR/bizarre-dui1.jpg)
:lulz: :lulz:
One of my old cabal mates from Hawaii, Grog the Unkindly, lives right outside of Pheonix.
Quote from: Telarus on February 26, 2011, 01:36:37 AM
One of my old cabal mates from Hawaii, Grog the Unkindly, lives right outside of Pheonix.
True-fact: there are only 4 parts of Arizona: Tucson, Phoenix, Grand Canyon, and bum-fuck nowhere. "Phoenix" is actually a metropolis of four large cities, all crammed together. The greater Phoenix area owns all the land between there and Casa Grande (the outskirts of Tucson, Point of No Return.)
The Grand Canyon has been built around quite a bit, seeing as it is a tourist attraction, and is its own place. Most of the snowbirds that are just vacationing and don't actually have a second home here (I shit you not) go here.
There's Tucson, which everyone knows is The Holy City of She What Done It All, and would you believe its relatively tiny? only about 40 miles x 40 miles square, including Marana, South Tucson, Sahuarita (which is more part of BFN than they care to admit), and the tiny villages in the mountains. Nobody knows how many there are, and no one cares to go check; there are stories, whispered only when the emergency response teams that responded to the last Great Burning get drunk enough to let it out.
Lastly there is bum-fuck N O W H E R E. This is interesting, because there are miles and miles of living land (though you lot from where there is too much nature wouldn't recognize it) covered in miles and miles of dying highway, and if you blink at the wrong time, you'll miss the last gas station for 100 miles with no way to turn around. Aside from that, there are tons of dirt roads that will lead you to nowhere (the kind that calls to the City's inhabitants from times to time), and occasional historic towns tucked away here and there. There are no NEW towns, and there haven't been for at least a hundred years. There's a kind of furtive quietness about all of these towns, hoping against hope that one of the Big Three won't swallow them up and steal their children and their souls.
Quote from: Sister Fracture on February 26, 2011, 01:55:51 AM
Quote from: Telarus on February 26, 2011, 01:36:37 AM
One of my old cabal mates from Hawaii, Grog the Unkindly, lives right outside of Pheonix.
True-fact: there are only 4 parts of Arizona: Tucson, Phoenix, Grand Canyon, and bum-fuck nowhere. "Phoenix" is actually a metropolis of four large cities, all crammed together. The greater Phoenix area owns all the land between there and Casa Grande (the outskirts of Tucson, Point of No Return.)
The Grand Canyon has been built around quite a bit, seeing as it is a tourist attraction, and is its own place. Most of the snowbirds that are just vacationing and don't actually have a second home here (I shit you not) go here.
There's Tucson, which everyone knows is The Holy City of She What Done It All, and would you believe its relatively tiny? only about 40 miles x 40 miles square, including Marana, South Tucson, Sahuarita (which is more part of BFN than they care to admit), and the tiny villages in the mountains. Nobody knows how many there are, and no one cares to go check; there are stories, whispered only when the emergency response teams that responded to the last Great Burning get drunk enough to let it out.
Lastly there is bum-fuck N O W H E R E. This is interesting, because there are miles and miles of living land (though you lot from where there is too much nature wouldn't recognize it) covered in miles and miles of dying highway, and if you blink at the wrong time, you'll miss the last gas station for 100 miles with no way to turn around. Aside from that, there are tons of dirt roads that will lead you to nowhere (the kind that calls to the City's inhabitants from times to time), and occasional historic towns tucked away here and there. There are no NEW towns, and there haven't been for at least a hundred years. There's a kind of furtive quietness about all of these towns, hoping against hope that one of the Big Three won't swallow them up and steal their children and their souls.
We actually have a highway exit to nowhere. No shit. Popago Road.
Quote from: Sister Fracture on February 26, 2011, 01:55:51 AM
Quote from: Telarus on February 26, 2011, 01:36:37 AM
One of my old cabal mates from Hawaii, Grog the Unkindly, lives right outside of Pheonix.
True-fact: there are only 4 parts of Arizona: Tucson, Phoenix, Grand Canyon, and bum-fuck nowhere. "Phoenix" is actually a metropolis of four large cities, all crammed together. The greater Phoenix area owns all the land between there and Casa Grande (the outskirts of Tucson, Point of No Return.)
The Grand Canyon has been built around quite a bit, seeing as it is a tourist attraction, and is its own place. Most of the snowbirds that are just vacationing and don't actually have a second home here (I shit you not) go here.
There's Tucson, which everyone knows is The Holy City of She What Done It All, and would you believe its relatively tiny? only about 40 miles x 40 miles square, including Marana, South Tucson, Sahuarita (which is more part of BFN than they care to admit), and the tiny villages in the mountains. Nobody knows how many there are, and no one cares to go check; there are stories, whispered only when the emergency response teams that responded to the last Great Burning get drunk enough to let it out.
Lastly there is bum-fuck N O W H E R E. This is interesting, because there are miles and miles of living land (though you lot from where there is too much nature wouldn't recognize it) covered in miles and miles of dying highway, and if you blink at the wrong time, you'll miss the last gas station for 100 miles with no way to turn around. Aside from that, there are tons of dirt roads that will lead you to nowhere (the kind that calls to the City's inhabitants from times to time), and occasional historic towns tucked away here and there. There are no NEW towns, and there haven't been for at least a hundred years. There's a kind of furtive quietness about all of these towns, hoping against hope that one of the Big Three won't swallow them up and steal their children and their souls.
Coyote, plotting road trip of hell through Arizona. Deserts don't scare him.
Quote from: Canis latrans eques on February 26, 2011, 04:47:34 AM
Quote from: Sister Fracture on February 26, 2011, 01:55:51 AM
Quote from: Telarus on February 26, 2011, 01:36:37 AM
One of my old cabal mates from Hawaii, Grog the Unkindly, lives right outside of Pheonix.
True-fact: there are only 4 parts of Arizona: Tucson, Phoenix, Grand Canyon, and bum-fuck nowhere. "Phoenix" is actually a metropolis of four large cities, all crammed together. The greater Phoenix area owns all the land between there and Casa Grande (the outskirts of Tucson, Point of No Return.)
The Grand Canyon has been built around quite a bit, seeing as it is a tourist attraction, and is its own place. Most of the snowbirds that are just vacationing and don't actually have a second home here (I shit you not) go here.
There's Tucson, which everyone knows is The Holy City of She What Done It All, and would you believe its relatively tiny? only about 40 miles x 40 miles square, including Marana, South Tucson, Sahuarita (which is more part of BFN than they care to admit), and the tiny villages in the mountains. Nobody knows how many there are, and no one cares to go check; there are stories, whispered only when the emergency response teams that responded to the last Great Burning get drunk enough to let it out.
Lastly there is bum-fuck N O W H E R E. This is interesting, because there are miles and miles of living land (though you lot from where there is too much nature wouldn't recognize it) covered in miles and miles of dying highway, and if you blink at the wrong time, you'll miss the last gas station for 100 miles with no way to turn around. Aside from that, there are tons of dirt roads that will lead you to nowhere (the kind that calls to the City's inhabitants from times to time), and occasional historic towns tucked away here and there. There are no NEW towns, and there haven't been for at least a hundred years. There's a kind of furtive quietness about all of these towns, hoping against hope that one of the Big Three won't swallow them up and steal their children and their souls.
Coyote, plotting road trip of hell through Arizona. Deserts don't scare him.
Which way you going to come from?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 26, 2011, 04:48:44 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans eques on February 26, 2011, 04:47:34 AM
Quote from: Sister Fracture on February 26, 2011, 01:55:51 AM
Quote from: Telarus on February 26, 2011, 01:36:37 AM
One of my old cabal mates from Hawaii, Grog the Unkindly, lives right outside of Pheonix.
True-fact: there are only 4 parts of Arizona: Tucson, Phoenix, Grand Canyon, and bum-fuck nowhere. "Phoenix" is actually a metropolis of four large cities, all crammed together. The greater Phoenix area owns all the land between there and Casa Grande (the outskirts of Tucson, Point of No Return.)
The Grand Canyon has been built around quite a bit, seeing as it is a tourist attraction, and is its own place. Most of the snowbirds that are just vacationing and don't actually have a second home here (I shit you not) go here.
There's Tucson, which everyone knows is The Holy City of She What Done It All, and would you believe its relatively tiny? only about 40 miles x 40 miles square, including Marana, South Tucson, Sahuarita (which is more part of BFN than they care to admit), and the tiny villages in the mountains. Nobody knows how many there are, and no one cares to go check; there are stories, whispered only when the emergency response teams that responded to the last Great Burning get drunk enough to let it out.
Lastly there is bum-fuck N O W H E R E. This is interesting, because there are miles and miles of living land (though you lot from where there is too much nature wouldn't recognize it) covered in miles and miles of dying highway, and if you blink at the wrong time, you'll miss the last gas station for 100 miles with no way to turn around. Aside from that, there are tons of dirt roads that will lead you to nowhere (the kind that calls to the City's inhabitants from times to time), and occasional historic towns tucked away here and there. There are no NEW towns, and there haven't been for at least a hundred years. There's a kind of furtive quietness about all of these towns, hoping against hope that one of the Big Three won't swallow them up and steal their children and their souls.
Coyote, plotting road trip of hell through Arizona. Deserts don't scare him.
Which way you going to come from?
No clue, this won't be happening until next summer though. If you are going to drive through a desert better fucking do it when it fucking stupid hot.
Grew up with red neck AC and can steer with a single finger on the wheel.
Quote from: Canis latrans eques on February 26, 2011, 04:51:13 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 26, 2011, 04:48:44 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans eques on February 26, 2011, 04:47:34 AM
Quote from: Sister Fracture on February 26, 2011, 01:55:51 AM
Quote from: Telarus on February 26, 2011, 01:36:37 AM
One of my old cabal mates from Hawaii, Grog the Unkindly, lives right outside of Pheonix.
True-fact: there are only 4 parts of Arizona: Tucson, Phoenix, Grand Canyon, and bum-fuck nowhere. "Phoenix" is actually a metropolis of four large cities, all crammed together. The greater Phoenix area owns all the land between there and Casa Grande (the outskirts of Tucson, Point of No Return.)
The Grand Canyon has been built around quite a bit, seeing as it is a tourist attraction, and is its own place. Most of the snowbirds that are just vacationing and don't actually have a second home here (I shit you not) go here.
There's Tucson, which everyone knows is The Holy City of She What Done It All, and would you believe its relatively tiny? only about 40 miles x 40 miles square, including Marana, South Tucson, Sahuarita (which is more part of BFN than they care to admit), and the tiny villages in the mountains. Nobody knows how many there are, and no one cares to go check; there are stories, whispered only when the emergency response teams that responded to the last Great Burning get drunk enough to let it out.
Lastly there is bum-fuck N O W H E R E. This is interesting, because there are miles and miles of living land (though you lot from where there is too much nature wouldn't recognize it) covered in miles and miles of dying highway, and if you blink at the wrong time, you'll miss the last gas station for 100 miles with no way to turn around. Aside from that, there are tons of dirt roads that will lead you to nowhere (the kind that calls to the City's inhabitants from times to time), and occasional historic towns tucked away here and there. There are no NEW towns, and there haven't been for at least a hundred years. There's a kind of furtive quietness about all of these towns, hoping against hope that one of the Big Three won't swallow them up and steal their children and their souls.
Coyote, plotting road trip of hell through Arizona. Deserts don't scare him.
Which way you going to come from?
No clue, this won't be happening until next summer though. If you are going to drive through a desert better fucking do it when it fucking stupid hot.
Grew up with red neck AC and can steer with a single finger on the wheel.
Good luck with that.
The inside of your car will reach 120F.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 26, 2011, 05:03:02 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans eques on February 26, 2011, 04:51:13 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 26, 2011, 04:48:44 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans eques on February 26, 2011, 04:47:34 AM
Quote from: Sister Fracture on February 26, 2011, 01:55:51 AM
Quote from: Telarus on February 26, 2011, 01:36:37 AM
One of my old cabal mates from Hawaii, Grog the Unkindly, lives right outside of Pheonix.
True-fact: there are only 4 parts of Arizona: Tucson, Phoenix, Grand Canyon, and bum-fuck nowhere. "Phoenix" is actually a metropolis of four large cities, all crammed together. The greater Phoenix area owns all the land between there and Casa Grande (the outskirts of Tucson, Point of No Return.)
The Grand Canyon has been built around quite a bit, seeing as it is a tourist attraction, and is its own place. Most of the snowbirds that are just vacationing and don't actually have a second home here (I shit you not) go here.
There's Tucson, which everyone knows is The Holy City of She What Done It All, and would you believe its relatively tiny? only about 40 miles x 40 miles square, including Marana, South Tucson, Sahuarita (which is more part of BFN than they care to admit), and the tiny villages in the mountains. Nobody knows how many there are, and no one cares to go check; there are stories, whispered only when the emergency response teams that responded to the last Great Burning get drunk enough to let it out.
Lastly there is bum-fuck N O W H E R E. This is interesting, because there are miles and miles of living land (though you lot from where there is too much nature wouldn't recognize it) covered in miles and miles of dying highway, and if you blink at the wrong time, you'll miss the last gas station for 100 miles with no way to turn around. Aside from that, there are tons of dirt roads that will lead you to nowhere (the kind that calls to the City's inhabitants from times to time), and occasional historic towns tucked away here and there. There are no NEW towns, and there haven't been for at least a hundred years. There's a kind of furtive quietness about all of these towns, hoping against hope that one of the Big Three won't swallow them up and steal their children and their souls.
Coyote, plotting road trip of hell through Arizona. Deserts don't scare him.
Which way you going to come from?
No clue, this won't be happening until next summer though. If you are going to drive through a desert better fucking do it when it fucking stupid hot.
Grew up with red neck AC and can steer with a single finger on the wheel.
Good luck with that.
The inside of your car will reach 120F.
Only if I leave the windows up, or my AC dies. And I won't be tempting fate.
Quote from: Canis latrans eques on February 26, 2011, 05:13:13 AM
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One of my old cabal mates from Hawaii, Grog the Unkindly, lives right outside of Pheonix.
True-fact: there are only 4 parts of Arizona: Tucson, Phoenix, Grand Canyon, and bum-fuck nowhere. "Phoenix" is actually a metropolis of four large cities, all crammed together. The greater Phoenix area owns all the land between there and Casa Grande (the outskirts of Tucson, Point of No Return.)
The Grand Canyon has been built around quite a bit, seeing as it is a tourist attraction, and is its own place. Most of the snowbirds that are just vacationing and don't actually have a second home here (I shit you not) go here.
There's Tucson, which everyone knows is The Holy City of She What Done It All, and would you believe its relatively tiny? only about 40 miles x 40 miles square, including Marana, South Tucson, Sahuarita (which is more part of BFN than they care to admit), and the tiny villages in the mountains. Nobody knows how many there are, and no one cares to go check; there are stories, whispered only when the emergency response teams that responded to the last Great Burning get drunk enough to let it out.
Lastly there is bum-fuck N O W H E R E. This is interesting, because there are miles and miles of living land (though you lot from where there is too much nature wouldn't recognize it) covered in miles and miles of dying highway, and if you blink at the wrong time, you'll miss the last gas station for 100 miles with no way to turn around. Aside from that, there are tons of dirt roads that will lead you to nowhere (the kind that calls to the City's inhabitants from times to time), and occasional historic towns tucked away here and there. There are no NEW towns, and there haven't been for at least a hundred years. There's a kind of furtive quietness about all of these towns, hoping against hope that one of the Big Three won't swallow them up and steal their children and their souls.
Coyote, plotting road trip of hell through Arizona. Deserts don't scare him.
Which way you going to come from?
No clue, this won't be happening until next summer though. If you are going to drive through a desert better fucking do it when it fucking stupid hot.
Grew up with red neck AC and can steer with a single finger on the wheel.
Good luck with that.
The inside of your car will reach 120F.
Only if I leave the windows up, or my AC dies. And I won't be tempting fate.
When the car seat broils your testicles, don't come crying to us...
There's only one way to do this.
Have all the car's checks and services AND a safety check done by a competent mechanic.
Load 10 gallons (minimum) of water into the vehicle, plus a cooler with a day's food.
Gas up at the edge of the desert. Carry cell phone.
Go for fucking broke. Don't stop for stranded RVs...It's a trap.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 26, 2011, 05:41:03 PM
There's only one way to do this.
Have all the car's checks and services AND a safety check done by a competent mechanic.
Load 10 gallons (minimum) of water into the vehicle, plus a cooler with a day's food.
Gas up at the edge of the desert. Carry cell phone.
Go for fucking broke. Don't stop for stranded RVs...It's a trap.
Roger, I know and I appreciate the concern. I did grow up in High Desert. My family used to go out for excursions into the desert. I already have 4 days worth of food in my car at all times and 5 gallons of water plus climate appropriate 'oh shit' gear. Trust me I have no intention of getting stranded due to my own incompetence and arrogance and if I do end up stranded I have no intention of dying from the heat.
When I do make this trip I'll plot it out, let people know where I am and where I am going, and where the gas stations are.
I may be many things but I know better than to fuck with the deserts. They will the whole thing all over your ass.
Quote from: Canis latrans eques on February 26, 2011, 05:48:18 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 26, 2011, 05:41:03 PM
There's only one way to do this.
Have all the car's checks and services AND a safety check done by a competent mechanic.
Load 10 gallons (minimum) of water into the vehicle, plus a cooler with a day's food.
Gas up at the edge of the desert. Carry cell phone.
Go for fucking broke. Don't stop for stranded RVs...It's a trap.
Roger, I know and I appreciate the concern. I did grow up in High Desert. My family used to go out for excursions into the desert. I already have 4 days worth of food in my car at all times and 5 gallons of water plus climate appropriate 'oh shit' gear. Trust me I have no intention of getting stranded due to my own incompetence and arrogance and if I do end up stranded I have no intention of dying from the heat.
When I do make this trip I'll plot it out, let people know where I am and where I am going, and where the gas stations are.
I may be many things but I know better than to fuck with the deserts. They will the whole thing all over your ass.
They're kind of like oceans that way, but take longer.
What about Flagstaff? Or is that even really part of Arizona?
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on February 26, 2011, 07:18:05 PM
What about Flagstaff? Or is that even really part of Arizona?
Flagstaff is to Phoenix what the University District is to Tucson.
:lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 26, 2011, 07:33:57 PM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on February 26, 2011, 07:18:05 PM
What about Flagstaff? Or is that even really part of Arizona?
Flagstaff is to Phoenix what the University District is to Tucson.
This is truth.
The other thing you should consider, Cram, is if you can handle the 100F + heat.
Quote from: Rumckle on February 27, 2011, 05:12:19 AM
The other thing you should consider, Cram, is if you can handle the 100F + heat.
That's April.
Phoenix gets to 117F in July, easy. Oh, and the monsoons...Oh, yeah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxQSJj3pypA
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 27, 2011, 05:17:11 AM
Quote from: Rumckle on February 27, 2011, 05:12:19 AM
The other thing you should consider, Cram, is if you can handle the 100F + heat.
That's April.
Phoenix gets to 117F in July, easy. Oh, and the monsoons...Oh, yeah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxQSJj3pypA
It's like watching your death come in? :lol:
Quote from: Sister Fracture on February 27, 2011, 05:20:48 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 27, 2011, 05:17:11 AM
Quote from: Rumckle on February 27, 2011, 05:12:19 AM
The other thing you should consider, Cram, is if you can handle the 100F + heat.
That's April.
Phoenix gets to 117F in July, easy. Oh, and the monsoons...Oh, yeah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxQSJj3pypA
It's like watching your death come in? :lol:
No, the later bit. Where all the water comes in.
No the real fun part isn't the HIGHS. Those, you're warned about. It's the LOWS. pitch-dark outside and it's motherfucking NINETY-FIVE DEGREES F at TWO IN THE MORNING.
No relief, man. None.