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Principia Discordia => Techmology and Scientism => Topic started by: Jasper on March 09, 2011, 03:15:04 AM

Title: Optics experiment
Post by: Jasper on March 09, 2011, 03:15:04 AM
I have read that if you wear glasses that flip everything upside down, your brain will start to correct it.  And that if you take the glasses off, your vision will be upside down for a brief period.

I want to try this.  Can anyone point me in the right direction Re: equipment?
Title: Re: Optics experiment
Post by: Elder Iptuous on March 09, 2011, 03:33:11 AM
i have heard that as well, but, like you, lack the optics to do it.
i believe it, however, because there is an optical illusion that i tried once that has you focusing on horizontal lines with bold color fields in green and vertical lines with red fields (or something like that).  you go through this rigmarole for 15 minutes or something, and it has a lasting effect on your vision. as in, you look at something with vertical lines and it has a tint to it 24 hours after you've done this thing.
really kind of freaky.
love me some surprising illusions.
if you figure out how to do it well, i definitely want to hear!
Title: Re: Optics experiment
Post by: Requia ☣ on March 09, 2011, 03:39:41 AM
Be aware it'll take 2-3 weeks for you to adjust to the optics, that's a fair bit of time spent bumping into shit.
Title: Re: Optics experiment
Post by: Jasper on March 09, 2011, 04:05:28 AM
That long? 

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=127812

Just found that.  They're talking one week.  I'd be up for that, perhaps after I've finished my degree.  I can read upside down, no reason I can't flip my hand eye coordination similarly.
Title: Re: Optics experiment
Post by: Requia ☣ on March 09, 2011, 04:26:16 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on March 09, 2011, 04:05:28 AM
That long? 

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=127812

Just found that.  They're talking one week.  I'd be up for that, perhaps after I've finished my degree.  I can read upside down, no reason I can't flip my hand eye coordination similarly.

3-4 weeks is what the original paper said, can't remember the citation though sorry (can't be what they cite at the forum, the original was in German, also that guy didn't push it to the point that he had trouble after taking them off, though hey, he started adapting after just three days, that isn't bad).
Title: Re: Optics experiment
Post by: Jasper on March 09, 2011, 04:32:33 AM
Maybe it fluctuates a lot from person to person.  Otherwise it's hard to explain such a huge discrepancy between reports.
Title: Re: Optics experiment
Post by: Requia ☣ on March 09, 2011, 07:11:12 AM
Discrepancy  :?
Title: Re: Optics experiment
Post by: Jasper on March 09, 2011, 11:16:47 PM
Now I've heard some people say one week, and some people report 3-4 weeks.  That seems like something of a wide variation.  I'm wondering aloud what could cause such a thing, other than individual traits that some people might have.  Or perhaps there's a rate of acclimation based on different methods/technologies used.
Title: Re: Optics experiment
Post by: LMNO on March 09, 2011, 11:50:39 PM
I wonder if there's a way to flip things Left to Right instead of up and down.
Title: Re: Optics experiment
Post by: Jasper on March 09, 2011, 11:52:17 PM
I know no reason why not... 

Unless the vertical switching has something to do with the way the brain has to transform the optical signals.
Title: Re: Optics experiment
Post by: Elder Iptuous on March 09, 2011, 11:54:12 PM
being too lazy to read the linked articles, do any of them explain whether it is a sudden flip, or some strange process of acclimation?
Title: Re: Optics experiment
Post by: Jasper on March 10, 2011, 12:01:04 AM
The actual experiential quality is what I haven't heard much of.  I want to observe it. 
Title: Re: Optics experiment
Post by: Requia ☣ on March 10, 2011, 01:05:10 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on March 09, 2011, 11:16:47 PM
Now I've heard some people say one week, and some people report 3-4 weeks.  That seems like something of a wide variation.  I'm wondering aloud what could cause such a thing, other than individual traits that some people might have.  Or perhaps there's a rate of acclimation based on different methods/technologies used.

I think it might have to do with what level is considered 'finished' the 2-3 weeks is for things to progress to the point that taking them off causes eyesight to appear reversed again.  Adaptation within a week seems reasonable based on some of the other reports I've read, but you won't have any trouble taking them off.
Title: Re: Optics experiment
Post by: Triple Zero on March 10, 2011, 07:19:29 PM
I remember seeing a short video clip about this when I was a kid. As far as I remember, the glasses were shaped like a long isosceles triangle (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Triangle.Isosceles.svg).

I dunno how they worked, maybe something with mirror-coating on the insides?

The rest of the clip showed the man wearing them trying to catch a (helium) balloon, but reaching down, or something.