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I have been abysmally ill for the past 2+ weeks. I even called into work sick one day, and that NEVER happens. At first, it was a nasty cold. Spent a few days feverish and horking up volkswagen-sized lung oysters. But even after the cold was obviously long gone, I was still sick. And a weird kind of sick. Sleeping too much, pooping nothing but foul greenish water (at extreme velocity too, but I digress), muddled, depressed, easily distracted (those who know me well know how truly strange these symptoms are; I am a highly-focused insomniac who is almost physically incapable of being bummed out), and unable to eat without feeling sicker with every swallow.

Turns out that last bit was not the symptom, but the cause.


I have developed a food allergy, and unfortunately it's one that's probably going to effectively end my career. I'm gonna keep working on the ship for a while, since I know what those guys like and know how to cook it without needing to taste everything all the time. I also have enough latitude in my budget there to buy separate groceries for myself. And the money is really good, but...unless I intend to cook on the same ship with the exact same crew for the rest of my life, I'm gonna have to find something else to do pretty soon. I can save enough to put myself through 4 years of school pretty quickly. I can save enough to put myself through 2 years of school on my next trip out. But I've gotta have something to go to school for.

ITT, you suggest ideas for a new career. My only concrete requirement is that I be able to make at least $50K/yr to start with a degree (bare minimum - I'm not going to school to take a pay cut) and that I have potential to eventually earn at least $100K/yr.

You're not gonna tell us the allergy??
What a cliff hanger!


Ps- I don't know what jobs are supposed to pay cause I live in FL where everyone makes minimum wage (yes with a degree) or is a lawyer.

Law school?

:lol: that's actually the very first thing I thought of.

The allergy is to wheat.

ETA: but that's not really important. This thread is about what I can do for a career change, not how I should just be some lame niche-market chef who can't use a proper roux.

Fuck, that blows.

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 20, 2011, 08:41:29 AM
:lol: that's actually the very first thing I thought of.

The allergy is to wheat.

ETA: but that's not really important. This thread is about what I can do for a career change, not how I should just be some lame niche-market chef who can't use a proper roux.

Go somewhere that you can charge twice as much for cooking non-wheat-gluten food? Pretty much leaves places like Vancouver or Amsterdam, tho. So you'll have to balance that with the increased probability of STH* Chicks.




*Dear Reader, Oh come on, you know what the fuck this is short for...

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 20, 2011, 08:41:29 AM
This thread is about what I can do for a career change, not how I should just be some lame niche-market chef who can't use a proper roux.

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 20, 2011, 09:28:36 AM

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 20, 2011, 08:41:29 AM
This thread is about what I can do for a career change, not how I should just be some lame niche-market chef who can't use a proper roux.

Aye, there's the rub. Law sounds interesting and nobody knows sharks like an island kid  :evil:. Anything else you interested in?

Biomedical Engineering

ETA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAI5rLnnCBE

Law, for sure.  Corporate law, if you can handle the boredom.

Or, you know, investment banking.

Mining Engineering? If you can stand living at mining sites, over here the average starting salary is about $100k. (I think)

I'm going into aerospace engineering, a 4-year degree with no experience gets you 50k a year, and depending on who you work for and how long, you can reach six digits. Generally, the work is putting together aircraft/missiles/things that fly, designing them, fixing them, flying them, and most of the jobs around a plane. Downside: the degree is math heavy, for example, I'm in trig now and by the end of next year I have to finish Calculus 2, and this is my first year of college.

I hear UN, Reno has an excellent pimpin' department.

Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on March 20, 2011, 02:52:10 PM
I hear UN, Reno has an excellent pimpin' department.

:lulz: Oh, god, how I hate Reno. Otherwise that would be the perfect field of study.

Also, maths are stupid.

Be a cook at fat camp, Atkins retreats, or a Celiac's convention center.

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 20, 2011, 09:28:36 AM
This thread is about what I can do for a career change, not how I should just be some lame niche-market chef who can't use a proper roux.

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 20, 2011, 03:45:19 PM

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 20, 2011, 09:28:36 AM
This thread is about what I can do for a career change, not how I should just be some lame niche-market chef who can't use a proper roux.

Guy like you?

Police work.  No shit.  Get the 4 year degree in something forensics-related, with a minor in "cop".

Just tell everyone you're a male prostitute, so you don't ruin your good name.

Does forensics actually pay 50 k a year?

Only things I've heard of that would get you that kind of money right away with a 4 year degree are Petroleum Engineering and Economics, you'd probably have to have the right networking to get the economics money (I know my mother never made 50k with an econ degree).

You may be able to get free college since you have a medical condition that's going to end your career.  Worth looking into.

MAN,

         you could be a cop

AND/ OR

         run a successful wheat/ gluten free restaurant in P-Town!

THE WORLD IS YOUR OYSTER!!

Quote from: Requia ☣ on March 20, 2011, 05:18:47 PM
Does forensics actually pay 50 k a year?

Only things I've heard of that would get you that kind of money right away with a 4 year degree are Petroleum Engineering and Economics, you'd probably have to have the right networking to get the economics money (I know my mother never made 50k with an econ degree).

You may be able to get free college since you have a medical condition that's going to end your career.  Worth looking into.

1.  Police pay varies wildly by city.

2.  It's a hell of a start towards detective.

Become a motivational speaker. No degree required. :P Just the awesome force of your personality coercing people to reach into their wallets and hand over their credit cards.

OR any of the following: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_highest_paying_jobs (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_highest_paying_jobs)

Be an anesthesiologist instead of a surgeon. You get to watch people taken apart without having to get your hands dirty, yourself. Or you could be a gynecologist. The key there is warm hands.

No.  I know cops.

And ECH is 169% cop.

Yeah but then there's that whole getting shot at thing and dealing with meth heads on a regular basis and answering 911 calls from people who got cold fries at the McDonald's drive-thru.

Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on March 20, 2011, 07:11:19 PM
Yeah but then there's that whole getting shot at thing and dealing with meth heads on a regular basis and answering 911 calls from people who got cold fries at the McDonald's drive-thru.

What I said.

169% cop.

damn, ECH.
i don't have anything to offer but condolences.  kick in the nuts, man.

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 20, 2011, 08:41:29 AM
:lol: that's actually the very first thing I thought of.

The allergy is to wheat.

ETA: but that's not really important. This thread is about what I can do for a career change, not how I should just be some lame niche-market chef who can't use a proper roux.

Well, you can make a lot of money as a gluten free chef in a lot of places.  But if that's too lame for you never mind.

Cops don't make very good money as far as I can tell, but I can definitely see that suiting you well.

or there's always criminal.

I guess reading comprehension is going out of style.

(yeah yeah, Apple Talk, but come on now...)

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 20, 2011, 03:45:19 PM

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 20, 2011, 09:28:36 AM
This thread is about what I can do for a career change, not how I should just be some lame niche-market chef who can't use a proper roux.

Become a life coach for life coaches.

Run for Elected Office!

Wow man, that's pretty heavy shit. A chef developing food allergies.
Still, good to see your can do attitude going into "Ok, so what CAN I do now?".

If you still want to work with people in hospitality, ever try giving bar tending a go?

That's about as useful as I can be at the moment, but good luck on your quest.
I'm on the search for a new job too so we're kinda in the same boat.

Quote from: Lies on March 20, 2011, 10:52:41 PM
Wow man, that's pretty heavy shit. A chef developing food allergies.
Still, good to see your can do attitude going into "Ok, so what CAN I do now?".

If you still want to work with people in hospitality, ever try giving bar tending a go?

That's about as useful as I can be at the moment, but good luck on your quest.
I'm on the search for a new job too so we're kinda in the same boat.

Because bar tending pays so well.

Become an air traffic controller. But if what happens in Breaking Bad happens we all know who's responsible.

Private Detective?
Get a good living wage arranging Honeytrap scenarios for cheating spouses.

While you fill in time, waiting for the day when that "Crazy knock-em-dead broad" walks into your Office, in a Mink coat, smoking a foreign cigarette in a long holder, and hands you a mysterious package. Her green, kohl rimmed eyes are red, from recent tears, and her breathing seems a little too fast for the one flight of stairs leading to the street. The diamond necklace, and brooch she's wearing attest to her wealth and breeding, as she looks you straight in the eye and says in a husky, European accent that you can't quite place, "_____________________ (Fill in the rest yourself, you must know better than me how you want this to pan out, and it's your show now, . . . .)

Quote from: Lyris_Nymphetamine on March 20, 2011, 11:36:09 PM

Quote from: Lies on March 20, 2011, 10:52:41 PM
Wow man, that's pretty heavy shit. A chef developing food allergies.
Still, good to see your can do attitude going into "Ok, so what CAN I do now?".

If you still want to work with people in hospitality, ever try giving bar tending a go?

That's about as useful as I can be at the moment, but good luck on your quest.
I'm on the search for a new job too so we're kinda in the same boat.

Because bar tending pays so well.

Become an air traffic controller. But if what happens in Breaking Bad happens we all know who's responsible.

It does where I am. $24 an hour plus tips for pouring drinks and chatting up pretty patrons? I can't think of a better way to spend my work day.

A little longer in school... but, Nurse Anesthetist.  http://explorehealthcareers.org/en/Career/80/Nurse_Anesthetist

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 20, 2011, 03:55:36 PM

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 20, 2011, 03:45:19 PM

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 20, 2011, 09:28:36 AM
This thread is about what I can do for a career change, not how I should just be some lame niche-market chef who can't use a proper roux.

Guy like you?

Police work.  No shit.  Get the 4 year degree in something forensics-related, with a minor in "cop".

Just tell everyone you're a male prostitute, so you don't ruin your good name.

THIS.

Also; how's your business-sense? You're in a unique financial position to consider going into business for yourself...maybe a bar that serves a limited menu...perhaps upscale-but-unique bar food that you won't need to taste beyond the creation stage?

You should move to New Orleans. All the kool kids are doin it.

Get a degree/certification in IT.  Make about 50k to post on PD and surf wikipedia while on the clock, and in the 70-100 ranges, if you're willing to cut down posting time to werk MOAR.  Have you tried turning it on again and off again?

Oh wow, Hustle, that's horrible.  :sad:

I agree with Roger, that you would probably make a great cop, but I'll never be able to see you as anything but one of the best chefs around.

Holy fuck, man! That's major suckage right there. 2 questions - how the hell do you suddenly become allergic to something and doesn't medical science have some way of reversing this process?

Failing that, I'm with TGRR - you strike me as particularly cop-like.

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 21, 2011, 10:18:47 AM
Holy fuck, man! That's major suckage right there. 2 questions - how the hell do you suddenly become allergic to something and doesn't medical science have some way of reversing this process?

Failing that, I'm with TGRR - you strike me as particularly cop-like.

Yeah, but not like a British Cop, because you are literate, and you have a sense of humour (albeit, a little twisted) I can see you in another 10- 15 years as a kind of "Gibbs" from NCIS. A Team leader, in a specialist Dept, maybe a Detective, with a bullet hole or two, and a couple of broken marriages. Maybe a boat in your cellar as well. But whatever you do, I think you'll probably find some sort of job that fulfills you. But yeah, WTF is that allergy thing all about then? It might be only temporary, or the Doctor might be wrong, (I'd want a second opinion myself) Good luck with it all, anyway.

Fuck ECH, that's terrible news.  Of all the food allergies out there, Celiac's is one of the worst, simply for the sheer scope of it.  You have my deepest sympathies.

As far as a new career, from what I can tell you'd be good as a director, manager, or some sort of leadership position.  TBH, it doesn't really matter what field it's in.  That would limit your ability to travel, though the pay would be what you're used to.

Fuck work and school.

Use your money to buy a junker of a car and become a drifter.

Pattern your live after Michael Landon's character from Highway to Heaven.  Except instead of being an angel of God's you're and Erisian Imp.

Roger can play the part of your Victor French.

That is terrible ECH.  I'm really sorry.

I have to agree with Roger.  I know detectives in Miami start at 6 figures.  The problem is the pay is directly proportioned to the amount of danger you face.  I guess you get the bigger bucks when people are trying to kill you.

Do you really want to go back to school for 4 years?  I know it sounds boring, but nurses make that kind of money, and if you get in a traveling program they will send you all over the world.  No rent, no utilities, just your personal bills, car, phone food etc.... 

My sister is a NP now and she travled all over for a lot of years and loved it.

Quote from: Khara on March 21, 2011, 03:38:28 PM
The problem is the pay is directly proportioned to the amount of danger you face. 

No.  The big money is in rich, quiet towns that wish to STAY rich, quiet towns.

But that's not what ECH is for.

Quote from: Lyris_Nymphetamine on March 20, 2011, 11:36:09 PM

Quote from: Lies on March 20, 2011, 10:52:41 PM
Wow man, that's pretty heavy shit. A chef developing food allergies.
Still, good to see your can do attitude going into "Ok, so what CAN I do now?".

If you still want to work with people in hospitality, ever try giving bar tending a go?

That's about as useful as I can be at the moment, but good luck on your quest.
I'm on the search for a new job too so we're kinda in the same boat.

Because bar tending pays so well.

Become an air traffic controller. But if what happens in Breaking Bad happens we all know who's responsible.

Bartending pays fucking fantastic, in the right town, which is here. But good luck getting that job in Portland unless you have connections.

Isn't there a coroner shortage?

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 21, 2011, 04:15:22 PM

Quote from: Khara on March 21, 2011, 03:38:28 PM
The problem is the pay is directly proportioned to the amount of danger you face. 

No.  The big money is in rich, quiet towns that wish to STAY rich, quiet towns.

But that's not what ECH is for.

:lulz:  I kind of figured that one, in addition to the problem that I only know what detectives make in Naples and Miami, FL.  Surprisingly Miami pays better, when I asked a cop who ended up taking a job in Miami the danger thing was his explanation.

So maybe a cop in ummmmm oh hell someplace like Martha's Vineyards or the Hamptons?

Quote from: Khara on March 21, 2011, 05:20:57 PM

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 21, 2011, 04:15:22 PM

Quote from: Khara on March 21, 2011, 03:38:28 PM
The problem is the pay is directly proportioned to the amount of danger you face. 

No.  The big money is in rich, quiet towns that wish to STAY rich, quiet towns.

But that's not what ECH is for.

:lulz:  I kind of figured that one, in addition to the problem that I only know what detectives make in Naples and Miami, FL.  Surprisingly Miami pays better, when I asked a cop who ended up taking a job in Miami the danger thing was his explanation.

So maybe a cop in ummmmm oh hell someplace like Martha's Vineyards or the Hamptons?

No, ECH needs to be a cop in Tucson, St Louis, or Big Rock.

Somewhere horrible, but not too large.

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 21, 2011, 05:30:44 PM

No, ECH needs to be a cop in Tucson, St Louis, or Big Rock.

Somewhere horrible, but not too large.

:evil: I see where your thinking is!!  I agree!!

ECH, this article (http://www.salon.com/food/chefs_and_cooks/index.html?story=/food/francis_lam/2011/03/08/grant_achatz_interview) may be of interest.  It's about Grant Achatz, a world-class chef who got tongue cancer, lost all his tatse buds during treatment, and continued to cook great food, even though he couldn't taste what he was cooking.

Just something to think about.

I think he should become a coroner, for the fucking awesome.

FUUUUCK DUDE  D:

Oddly, my advice was going to be what Rog said.

Distill spirits.

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 21, 2011, 05:30:44 PM

Somewhere horrible, but not too large.

LIKE NEW ORLEANS.

You should watch Steven Seagal: Lawman. Technically Jefferson Parish (Westbank, not Orleans Parish) but you DO get to watch him pop off some nutria in episode 09 of season 01.

Anyway, working in NOLA would make it possible for you to continue the "lifestyle to which you are accustomed." Also: I'll be living there in a year or so.

Quote from: LMNO, PhD on March 21, 2011, 06:03:44 PM
ECH, this article (http://www.salon.com/food/chefs_and_cooks/index.html?story=/food/francis_lam/2011/03/08/grant_achatz_interview) may be of interest.  It's about Grant Achatz, a world-class chef who got tongue cancer, lost all his tatse buds during treatment, and continued to cook great food, even though he couldn't taste what he was cooking.

Just something to think about.

Totally think it's possible.

:lulz:

Listen, I have a ton of confidence in my talent and ability, but I'm also a realistic person. I'm no Grant Achatz (who I have more respect for than pretty much any chef alive).

I was sure that Zeke's got a Michelin star back in the day....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2006/feb/05/medicineandhealth.research (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2006/feb/05/medicineandhealth.research)

just a thought

x

edd

Quote from: navkat on March 22, 2011, 03:23:10 AM

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 21, 2011, 05:30:44 PM

Somewhere horrible, but not too large.

LIKE NEW ORLEANS.

You should watch Steven Seagal: Lawman. Technically Jefferson Parish (Westbank, not Orleans Parish) but you DO get to watch him pop off some nutria in episode 09 of season 01.

Anyway, working in NOLA would make it possible for you to continue the "lifestyle to which you are accustomed." Also: I'll be living there in a year or so.

Why the hell would anyone go "Yay, a flood plain; I think I'll go live on it"?

Quote from: LMNO, PhD on March 22, 2011, 12:03:00 PM
I was sure that Zeke's got a Michelin star back in the day....

No, you're confused. We had a couple of michelin tires laying around being used as flowerpots.

Quote from: Nigel on March 22, 2011, 03:29:14 PM
Why the hell would anyone go "Yay, a flood plain; I think I'll go live on it"?

I know one reason...

(http://www2.worldpub.net/images/saveurmag/7-20101116-neworleans-300x401-P.jpg)

Also, if everyone relocated away from all of the really dangerous natural disasters, everyone would basically be living in the Northwest and the Northeast.

I don't want any more neighbors.  I like my space. 

Tucson doesn't get natural disasters.*










*Our fires are usually caused by stupid campers who don't take care of their fucking fires.

Quote from: LMNO, PhD on March 22, 2011, 03:32:47 PM
(http://www2.worldpub.net/images/saveurmag/7-20101116-neworleans-300x401-P.jpg)

Dear lord chickory coffee and beignets from Cafe du Monde.....   :cry:  I WANT NOW!!!!

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 22, 2011, 03:35:45 PM
Also, if everyone relocated away from all of the really dangerous natural disasters, everyone would basically be living in the Northwest and the Northeast.

I don't want any more neighbors.  I like my space. 

Eh, not the NW. We're slated for earthquake catastrophe and it's going to be ugly, Japan-style, plus we have Hanford. If you want to be freaked out by the sheer potential, look it up.

But I was born here. I am not questioning people who live in an area they were born and raised... I'm asking why you would be all, "shit, I've always wanted to try meth, why not?"

I wonder the same fucking thing about people who move to Portland. Seriously, guys, we're all gonna die in a really messy and unpleasant way. Why would you move here on purpose?

Quote from: Nurse Freeky on March 22, 2011, 03:37:50 PM
Tucson doesn't get natural disasters.*










*Our fires are usually caused by stupid campers who don't take care of their fucking fires.

Tucson, bizarrely, actually makes sense as a place to live.

Quote from: LMNO, PhD on March 22, 2011, 03:32:47 PM

Quote from: Nigel on March 22, 2011, 03:29:14 PM
Why the hell would anyone go "Yay, a flood plain; I think I'll go live on it"?

I know one reason...

(http://www2.worldpub.net/images/saveurmag/7-20101116-neworleans-300x401-P.jpg)

I don't like coffee or sweet pastries.

I know, I'm an inhuman freak.

Clearly, then, you are not just "anyone", and so the answer given would not necessarily apply to you.


However... What about this? (http://cochonrestaurant.com/)

I'd go just for the music.

RWHN,
-jazz fan

Become Real Estate Agent

Move somewhere tropical and sell beach houses to retirees, trust fund babies, escaping politicians, and gold diggers.





and let me visit!   :D

Run against LePage in 2014.  

Or run against Snowe for 2012. 

Quote from: LMNO, PhD on March 22, 2011, 04:10:21 PM
Clearly, then, you are not just "anyone", and so the answer given would not necessarily apply to you.


However... What about this? (http://cochonrestaurant.com/)

Good food is a powerful motivator. Although, I'm not partial to Cajun.

Heh.  I know better to try to convince you once you've made up you mind.  More of that kind of music, food, and tits for me, then.

Quote from: LMNO, PhD on March 22, 2011, 04:34:12 PM
Heh.  I know better to try to convince you once you've made up you mind.  More of that kind of music, food, and tits for me, then.

I liked it before, but I'm still pissed about someone's particular comment and it's making me aversive.

Seriously, this is why I need therapy...

Quote from: Nigel on March 22, 2011, 03:29:14 PM

Quote from: navkat on March 22, 2011, 03:23:10 AM

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 21, 2011, 05:30:44 PM

Somewhere horrible, but not too large.

LIKE NEW ORLEANS.

You should watch Steven Seagal: Lawman. Technically Jefferson Parish (Westbank, not Orleans Parish) but you DO get to watch him pop off some nutria in episode 09 of season 01.

Anyway, working in NOLA would make it possible for you to continue the "lifestyle to which you are accustomed." Also: I'll be living there in a year or so.

Why the hell would anyone go "Yay, a flood plain; I think I'll go live on it"?

Padonnen m', tiffi...

Your statement reveals some ignorance on your part. It's not really your fault: there's a lot misconception about:
1. What caused the Katrina Disaster and
2. The value of New Orleans in general.

Let's start with 1. the Great Flood of 2005 was a man made disaster.

While it's true that New Orleans is basically below sea-level, she has historically been protected from hurricane and surge waters by vast wetlands. This swamp works to guard the city from surging water, but also slows down the actual speed of the hurricane itself as it begins to make landfall over the wetlands. There's a figure running around that says basically every one mile of swamp slows a hurricane down by 2 knots :cn:.


in the 1950s, the Fed approved the creation of the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet (MRGO or "Mister-GO") Intracoastal Waterway canal. Long story short, they basically dug a ginormous T-shaped canal into the land and swampland that connects Lake Pontchartrain to the Gulf to the Mississip'. Addistionally, they dug a bunch of canals into the geography at the north side of NOLA where she meets Lake Pontchartrain.

This had two effects: first, the obvious; all of the seawall breaches were at man-made canal points. Second: the use of the canals themselves disturbed the protective swampland and broke up the density and ecosystem of miles and miles. The eventual result was that it created a perfect "funnel" effect in many places--the most profound "point" of which cut right into the New Orleans East section of MRGO which forks right along the area between the 7th and 8th wards.

2. New Orleans one the oldest cities in the US (it pre-dates New York...and even the 13 colonies of the US itself) and is a living, breathing national treasure. It is a city greater than merely its congregation of preserved Creole, Acadian, Spanish, Hatian and French parts. It's the very birthplace of the first and only truly American-invented music style, It was (despite its status as a slave port) the only place in the South resistant among its people to inequality among blacks and whites until long after the Louisiana Purchase and considered its colored Creole peoples to posses a status above "white Yankee" until long after segregation and Jim Crowe thinking took hold of the South (don't believe me? wiki "creole" sometime). The Port of New Orleans was and remains an integral part of the shipping industry--its location at the base of the only major body of water that runs through the body of the continent.

Blowing off New Orleans as just a bunch of stupidly-located people who don't have the good sense to get their asses off a flood-plain is to not really comprehend the picture. To take an abandonment stance is to fail to recognize, say, San Francisco as being "worth the money" of saving and it is committing an inadvertent act of culturcide/genocide-through-displacement no different than what the Federal Government has already done to the Native American Indians.

That said, I think you should go sometime. I think you're one of the types of people in this world who are of the right intelligence and mindframe to really "get it" if you go. I do believe you'd have a hell of a time.

It's also one of the finest natural harbors in the world, and connects river trade with ocean trade.

New Orleans is on my list of places I'd like to visit someday.

Once the divorce is final and I can look at my finances, I'll be planning some trips.  (I get an assload of vacation time that I need to burn off.)

Heck, I may even make a pilgrimage to Tuscon one of these days.

Quote from: Nigel on March 22, 2011, 04:06:00 PM

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 22, 2011, 03:35:45 PM
Also, if everyone relocated away from all of the really dangerous natural disasters, everyone would basically be living in the Northwest and the Northeast.

I don't want any more neighbors.  I like my space. 

Eh, not the NW. We're slated for earthquake catastrophe and it's going to be ugly, Japan-style, plus we have Hanford. If you want to be freaked out by the sheer potential, look it up.

But I was born here. I am not questioning people who live in an area they were born and raised... I'm asking why you would be all, "shit, I've always wanted to try meth, why not?"

I wonder the same fucking thing about people who move to Portland. Seriously, guys, we're all gonna die in a really messy and unpleasant way. Why would you move here on purpose?

Isn't Hanford decommissioned?

No wait, let me guess, the site was decommissioned because its full to bursting with nuclear waste that there's no proper dump site for.

ECH,

Damn. Really sorry to hear your news :(

Dude, I wish I had an answer for you.  You're so particularly suited to what you are already doing, that I'm having a brainfart thinking past you not being able to do it anymore.

...

Quote from: navkat on March 22, 2011, 07:36:29 PM

Quote from: Nigel on March 22, 2011, 03:29:14 PM

Quote from: navkat on March 22, 2011, 03:23:10 AM

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 21, 2011, 05:30:44 PM

Somewhere horrible, but not too large.

LIKE NEW ORLEANS.

You should watch Steven Seagal: Lawman. Technically Jefferson Parish (Westbank, not Orleans Parish) but you DO get to watch him pop off some nutria in episode 09 of season 01.

Anyway, working in NOLA would make it possible for you to continue the "lifestyle to which you are accustomed." Also: I'll be living there in a year or so.

Why the hell would anyone go "Yay, a flood plain; I think I'll go live on it"?

Padonnen m', tiffi...

Your statement reveals some ignorance on your part. It's not really your fault: there's a lot misconception about:
1. What caused the Katrina Disaster and
2. The value of New Orleans in general.

Let's start with 1. the Great Flood of 2005 was a man made disaster.

While it's true that New Orleans is basically below sea-level, she has historically been protected from hurricane and surge waters by vast wetlands. This swamp works to guard the city from surging water, but also slows down the actual speed of the hurricane itself as it begins to make landfall over the wetlands. There's a figure running around that says basically every one mile of swamp slows a hurricane down by 2 knots :cn:.


in the 1950s, the Fed approved the creation of the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet (MRGO or "Mister-GO") Intracoastal Waterway canal. Long story short, they basically dug a ginormous T-shaped canal into the land and swampland that connects Lake Pontchartrain to the Gulf to the Mississip'. Addistionally, they dug a bunch of canals into the geography at the north side of NOLA where she meets Lake Pontchartrain.

This had two effects: first, the obvious; all of the seawall breaches were at man-made canal points. Second: the use of the canals themselves disturbed the protective swampland and broke up the density and ecosystem of miles and miles. The eventual result was that it created a perfect "funnel" effect in many places--the most profound "point" of which cut right into the New Orleans East section of MRGO which forks right along the area between the 7th and 8th wards.

2. New Orleans one the oldest cities in the US (it pre-dates New York...and even the 13 colonies of the US itself) and is a living, breathing national treasure. It is a city greater than merely its congregation of preserved Creole, Acadian, Spanish, Hatian and French parts. It's the very birthplace of the first and only truly American-invented music style, It was (despite its status as a slave port) the only place in the South resistant among its people to inequality among blacks and whites until long after the Louisiana Purchase and considered its colored Creole peoples to posses a status above "white Yankee" until long after segregation and Jim Crowe thinking took hold of the South (don't believe me? wiki "creole" sometime). The Port of New Orleans was and remains an integral part of the shipping industry--its location at the base of the only major body of water that runs through the body of the continent.

Blowing off New Orleans as just a bunch of stupidly-located people who don't have the good sense to get their asses off a flood-plain is to not really comprehend the picture. To take an abandonment stance is to fail to recognize, say, San Francisco as being "worth the money" of saving and it is committing an inadvertent act of culturcide/genocide-through-displacement no different than what the Federal Government has already done to the Native American Indians.

That said, I think you should go sometime. I think you're one of the types of people in this world who are of the right intelligence and mindframe to really "get it" if you go. I do believe you'd have a hell of a time.

While I agree with much of your post, I have to take issue with 2 things:

Jazz is NOT the only american-born form of music. Blues and Hip-Hop are both born-and-bred American as well, and neither came from New Orleans.

Port Fourchon (which is, IRRC, the 4th busiest port in the world in terms of total tonnage) is not actually in or even near New Orleans, and would still be there even if the city were depopulated.

Quote from: Requia ☣ on March 22, 2011, 07:49:48 PM

Quote from: Nigel on March 22, 2011, 04:06:00 PM

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 22, 2011, 03:35:45 PM
Also, if everyone relocated away from all of the really dangerous natural disasters, everyone would basically be living in the Northwest and the Northeast.

I don't want any more neighbors.  I like my space.  

Eh, not the NW. We're slated for earthquake catastrophe and it's going to be ugly, Japan-style, plus we have Hanford. If you want to be freaked out by the sheer potential, look it up.

But I was born here. I am not questioning people who live in an area they were born and raised... I'm asking why you would be all, "shit, I've always wanted to try meth, why not?"

I wonder the same fucking thing about people who move to Portland. Seriously, guys, we're all gonna die in a really messy and unpleasant way. Why would you move here on purpose?

Isn't Hanford decommissioned?

No wait, let me guess, the site was decommissioned because its full to bursting with nuclear waste that there's no proper dump site for.

It is decommissioned in the sense that they no longer make plutonium for nuclear weapons there. however, it's also the single most contaminated superfund site in the US, and will probably be so for another couple thousand years.

And the thread is straying. I don't care about where natural disasters are more likely or which cities we should abandon, unless it's relevant to a potential new career path for me.

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 22, 2011, 09:40:43 PM
And the thread is straying. I don't care about where natural disasters are more likely or which cities we should abandon, unless it's relevant to a potential new career path for me.

I was being serious.  Distill spirits.

Hunt pirates?

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 22, 2011, 09:39:23 PM

Quote from: Requia ☣ on March 22, 2011, 07:49:48 PM

Quote from: Nigel on March 22, 2011, 04:06:00 PM

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 22, 2011, 03:35:45 PM
Also, if everyone relocated away from all of the really dangerous natural disasters, everyone would basically be living in the Northwest and the Northeast.

I don't want any more neighbors.  I like my space.  

Eh, not the NW. We're slated for earthquake catastrophe and it's going to be ugly, Japan-style, plus we have Hanford. If you want to be freaked out by the sheer potential, look it up.

But I was born here. I am not questioning people who live in an area they were born and raised... I'm asking why you would be all, "shit, I've always wanted to try meth, why not?"

I wonder the same fucking thing about people who move to Portland. Seriously, guys, we're all gonna die in a really messy and unpleasant way. Why would you move here on purpose?

Isn't Hanford decommissioned?

No wait, let me guess, the site was decommissioned because its full to bursting with nuclear waste that there's no proper dump site for.

It is decommissioned in the sense that they no longer make plutonium for nuclear weapons there. however, it's also the single most contaminated superfund site in the US, and will probably be so for another couple thousand years.

speaking of that...nuclear waste disposal pays very well

Distilling spirits sounds good, but what kind of money could you make off it? In addition to the fact that working it even as a local brewery selling microbrews requires a commercial space with all kinds of specific requirements the have to be met, on top of the apparatus itself.

You could open a medical marijuana dispensary somewhere. I think I remember you saying you've dealt in the past, but I don't know if you've grown. It sounds like you could get the startup capital without too much difficulty from what you've said about your ability to pay for training.

You said you don't like math- how do you feel about biological and health sciences? Nursing is a valid option, as others have mentioned.

If you're okay with biology and chemistry, maybe look into pharmacy.

Nursing requires making idiots not die, so that's right the fuck out the window. Also doesn't pay enough.

I have, actually, a standing offer to buy in as a partner in a fairly successful medical marijuana business but it is contingent upon me moving to Vantucky (Vancouver, WA) because I'd need to be a WA resident to do it legally and because they want me to help them capture the Clark County, WA segment of the Portland Metro area. I've been thinking this over, but I'm not stoked about the idea of moving across the river to Methcouver.

I could actually get a job at Hanford doing the nuke waste disposal thing. One of my best friends was a supervisor there for a while and made killer money. Said the job was easy as hell, too. But after he'd worked there for 4 or 5 years, his doctor told him he had a choice between quitting that job for good or having children with horrifying birth defects. Not sure that's a deterrent for me, but I also don't think I want to live in the Tri-Cities. I made too much of a name for myself out there in my youth and now all those former enemies are cops and city councilmen.

So far, I'm leaning towards law school. I'd seriously consider being a cop, but I have trouble imagining that they wouldn't see a scumbag like me coming from a mile away.

I would think you'd enjoy having private detective/security provider more than being a cop. No bosses breathing down your neck, more distance between you and the inherent, raw dickishness of institutionalized assholes. Plus, more or less your own schedule, the work would be as exciting or as boring as you could make it, and you can do it anywhere.

You seem to have the savvy, work ethic and potential for inflicting brute force or finesse as needed that I imagine such work would require.

OR:

Batman.

As far as law enforcement, security, etc. goes, they wont be too concerned about how you look, although theyll probably have a problem if you have any kind of record.
Now, you could make a killing installing security systems, you can do everything at somewhere like a 5000% markup, and thats standard.

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 22, 2011, 09:40:43 PM
And the thread is straying. I don't care about where natural disasters are more likely or which cities we should abandon, unless it's relevant to a potential new career path for me.

At first I thought:

http://www.fs.fed.us/fire/people/smokejumpers/

But then a quick search seemed to indicate that people who parachute into forest fires don't get paid as much as you might think.

Quote from: pH on March 22, 2011, 09:49:15 PM
Distilling spirits sounds good, but what kind of money could you make off it? In addition to the fact that working it even as a local brewery selling microbrews requires a commercial space with all kinds of specific requirements the have to be met, on top of the apparatus itself.

Depends on where you are.  Beer and Wine brewing in Washington is not nearly as regulated as it is in many other places.  Although hard liquor is regulated out the ass.  I don't know about Oregon, but considering Portland has more Breweries than any city in the world it can't be too bad.

Quote from: navkat on March 22, 2011, 07:36:29 PM

Quote from: Nigel on March 22, 2011, 03:29:14 PM

Quote from: navkat on March 22, 2011, 03:23:10 AM

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 21, 2011, 05:30:44 PM

Somewhere horrible, but not too large.

LIKE NEW ORLEANS.

You should watch Steven Seagal: Lawman. Technically Jefferson Parish (Westbank, not Orleans Parish) but you DO get to watch him pop off some nutria in episode 09 of season 01.

Anyway, working in NOLA would make it possible for you to continue the "lifestyle to which you are accustomed." Also: I'll be living there in a year or so.

Why the hell would anyone go "Yay, a flood plain; I think I'll go live on it"?

Padonnen m', tiffi...

Your statement reveals some ignorance on your part. It's not really your fault: there's a lot misconception about:
1. What caused the Katrina Disaster and
2. The value of New Orleans in general.

Let's start with 1. the Great Flood of 2005 was a man made disaster.

While it's true that New Orleans is basically below sea-level, she has historically been protected from hurricane and surge waters by vast wetlands. This swamp works to guard the city from surging water, but also slows down the actual speed of the hurricane itself as it begins to make landfall over the wetlands. There's a figure running around that says basically every one mile of swamp slows a hurricane down by 2 knots :cn:.


in the 1950s, the Fed approved the creation of the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet (MRGO or "Mister-GO") Intracoastal Waterway canal. Long story short, they basically dug a ginormous T-shaped canal into the land and swampland that connects Lake Pontchartrain to the Gulf to the Mississip'. Addistionally, they dug a bunch of canals into the geography at the north side of NOLA where she meets Lake Pontchartrain.

This had two effects: first, the obvious; all of the seawall breaches were at man-made canal points. Second: the use of the canals themselves disturbed the protective swampland and broke up the density and ecosystem of miles and miles. The eventual result was that it created a perfect "funnel" effect in many places--the most profound "point" of which cut right into the New Orleans East section of MRGO which forks right along the area between the 7th and 8th wards.

2. New Orleans one the oldest cities in the US (it pre-dates New York...and even the 13 colonies of the US itself) and is a living, breathing national treasure. It is a city greater than merely its congregation of preserved Creole, Acadian, Spanish, Hatian and French parts. It's the very birthplace of the first and only truly American-invented music style, It was (despite its status as a slave port) the only place in the South resistant among its people to inequality among blacks and whites until long after the Louisiana Purchase and considered its colored Creole peoples to posses a status above "white Yankee" until long after segregation and Jim Crowe thinking took hold of the South (don't believe me? wiki "creole" sometime). The Port of New Orleans was and remains an integral part of the shipping industry--its location at the base of the only major body of water that runs through the body of the continent.

Blowing off New Orleans as just a bunch of stupidly-located people who don't have the good sense to get their asses off a flood-plain is to not really comprehend the picture. To take an abandonment stance is to fail to recognize, say, San Francisco as being "worth the money" of saving and it is committing an inadvertent act of culturcide/genocide-through-displacement no different than what the Federal Government has already done to the Native American Indians.

That said, I think you should go sometime. I think you're one of the types of people in this world who are of the right intelligence and mindframe to really "get it" if you go. I do believe you'd have a hell of a time.

I could give as much of a flying fuck about this as about the zoo bear that died that everybody is boo-hooing about.

So New Orleans is neat.

SWELL.

I still don't get why anyone is gung-ho to move there. this, if you have a couple of brain cells to rub together, is different from advocating abandonment.

But then, I also don't get why people move to Portland in droves.

SORRY ABOUT THE THREAD DRIFT.

I just wanted to reply to that spiel that assumed that somehow, the relatively short-lived historical value of NO made it make sense to decide to move there.

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 22, 2011, 09:39:23 PM

Quote from: Requia ☣ on March 22, 2011, 07:49:48 PM

Quote from: Nigel on March 22, 2011, 04:06:00 PM

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 22, 2011, 03:35:45 PM
Also, if everyone relocated away from all of the really dangerous natural disasters, everyone would basically be living in the Northwest and the Northeast.

I don't want any more neighbors.  I like my space.  

Eh, not the NW. We're slated for earthquake catastrophe and it's going to be ugly, Japan-style, plus we have Hanford. If you want to be freaked out by the sheer potential, look it up.

But I was born here. I am not questioning people who live in an area they were born and raised... I'm asking why you would be all, "shit, I've always wanted to try meth, why not?"

I wonder the same fucking thing about people who move to Portland. Seriously, guys, we're all gonna die in a really messy and unpleasant way. Why would you move here on purpose?

Isn't Hanford decommissioned?

No wait, let me guess, the site was decommissioned because its full to bursting with nuclear waste that there's no proper dump site for.

It is decommissioned in the sense that they no longer make plutonium for nuclear weapons there. however, it's also the single most contaminated superfund site in the US, and will probably be so for another couple thousand years.

Radioactive bunnies! Also there's still an active power plant there. GOD KNOWS WHY.

I still think you should become a coroner because THAT WOULD BE PURE AWESOME. You'd be like Quincy, only you'd be you.

Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on March 22, 2011, 11:22:18 PM

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 22, 2011, 09:40:43 PM
And the thread is straying. I don't care about where natural disasters are more likely or which cities we should abandon, unless it's relevant to a potential new career path for me.

At first I thought:

http://www.fs.fed.us/fire/people/smokejumpers/

But then a quick search seemed to indicate that people who parachute into forest fires don't get paid as much as you might think.

Yeah, I have a friend who does that. The advantage is lots of time off in the winter. The disadvantages are low pay, loneliness, and a high possibility that you might die.

Quote from: Nigel on March 22, 2011, 11:35:53 PM
I still think you should become a coroner because THAT WOULD BE PURE AWESOME. You'd be like Quincy, only you'd be you.

One thing it has going for it is that people are never going to stop dying. :lulz:

No idea how much they get paid though.

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 23, 2011, 12:26:50 AM

Quote from: Nigel on March 22, 2011, 11:35:53 PM
I still think you should become a coroner because THAT WOULD BE PURE AWESOME. You'd be like Quincy, only you'd be you.

One thing it has going for it is that people are never going to stop dying. :lulz:

No idea how much they get paid though.

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Coroner/Salary/by_Benefit

Quote from: Nigel on March 22, 2011, 11:30:00 PM

I could give as much of a flying fuck about this as about the zoo bear that died that everybody is boo-hooing about.

So New Orleans is neat.

SWELL.

I still don't get why anyone is gung-ho to move there. this, if you have a couple of brain cells to rub together, is different from advocating abandonment.

But then, I also don't get why people move to Portland in droves.

Quote from: Nigel on March 22, 2011, 11:31:07 PM
SORRY ABOUT THE THREAD DRIFT.

I just wanted to reply to that spiel that assumed that somehow, the relatively short-lived historical value of NO made it make sense to decide to move there.

This isn't reasonable debate, this is cunt-nuggetry.

You know, after trying to keep an open mind for what? two years now? I have to conclude that you're kind of a bitch and we really aren't going to like each other.

How about this: I ignore you and you ignore me. Don't respond to anything I write (cause you think everything I have to say is stupid, anyway) and I won't reference or respond to you. We should be fine after that.

Thank you,
-j

Sorry I don't have a crush on your favorite place.  :lulz: I'm not out to hurt your feelings, I just don't fucking get it, and I also don't appreciate having sentiments I never expressed (advocating abandonment) attributed to me. I'm afraid I'm gonna stick with that, I hope it doesn't bruise your pussy too much.

I'm sure New Orleans is fun and awesome and I would enjoy visiting it. I might even think it was great enough to move to, although leaving my current certain deathtrap-by-earthquake locale would be a hard decision.

I'm just going to jump in to this whole Nigel vs. navkat thing, and navkat, you have talked to Roger right? How did/do you survive Roger if Nigel's vague prodding bothers you?

Quote from: pH on March 23, 2011, 01:52:25 AM
I'm just going to jump in to this whole Nigel vs. navkat thing, and navkat, you have talked to Roger right? How did/do you survive Roger if Nigel's vague prodding bothers you?

:wrong:

Quote from: pH on March 23, 2011, 01:52:25 AM
I'm just going to jump in to this whole Nigel vs. navkat thing, and navkat, you have talked to Roger right? How did/do you survive Roger if Nigel's vague prodding bothers you?

How about, instead, you shut the fuck up, stop encouraging some slight personal beef that nobody cares about, and STOP SPAGGING UP MY FUCKING THREAD WITH STUPID IRRELEVANT SHIT?

thanks in advance.

Talking to Roger is a whole different experience because once you get him on the phone you can totally tell he's holding back laughter the whole fucking time. Or not holding it back; he laughs a lot.

Or maybe that's just me. I find that in person, people are usually laughing around me. Online, though, the exact same shit tends to piss people the fuck off.

Also, my fucking chair stinks like something died in it, WTF. This is just gross. No wonder I'm cranky.

I'm sorry for further derailing your thread, ECH. Seriously, though, I think coroners make like 100k in straight salary, not counting bennies. You would be such an awesome coroner, it would make people look forward to dying.

Quote from: pH on March 23, 2011, 01:52:25 AM
I'm just going to jump in to this whole Nigel vs. navkat thing, and navkat, you have talked to Roger right? How did/do you survive Roger if Nigel's vague prodding bothers you?

I get Roger. If you notice, he's not ever really nasty about anything, just takes a superior stance and simply asserts that you are wrong (even when he's fucking with you). He pokes and trolls but he does it with class.

Quote from: navkat on March 23, 2011, 02:14:13 AM

Quote from: pH on March 23, 2011, 01:52:25 AM
I'm just going to jump in to this whole Nigel vs. navkat thing, and navkat, you have talked to Roger right? How did/do you survive Roger if Nigel's vague prodding bothers you?

I get Roger. If you notice, he's not ever really nasty about anything, just takes a superior stance and simply asserts that you are wrong (even when he's fucking with you). He pokes and trolls but he does it with class.

Stop. Or take it to a different thread.

For fuck's sake. Not every goddamn thread is Open Bar.

My apologies. It's finished now.

Did you think about what I said about starting your own business?

You should do the reality show tour, make a little cash (or a lot). While they are all mainly complete shit, amazing race is cool and you travel like mad.

Seriously though take whatever time to think it thru, you're young, enjoy your life for a bit.

Quote from: navkat on March 23, 2011, 02:14:13 AM

Quote from: pH on March 23, 2011, 01:52:25 AM
I'm just going to jump in to this whole Nigel vs. navkat thing, and navkat, you have talked to Roger right? How did/do you survive Roger if Nigel's vague prodding bothers you?

I get Roger. If you notice, he's not ever really nasty about anything, just takes a superior stance and simply asserts that you are wrong (even when he's fucking with you). He pokes and trolls but he does it with class.

I don't have class.

But I'm right, and it pisses people off. I am also five feet tall and have hair that white people love to pet. For reasons unknown, in person my essential and perfect adorable righteousness makes people laugh and love me. Online, it fills them with rage and hate. Luckily, that makes me laugh, when I'm not seeing red.

My best friend is Jewish, also I have a cute dog.

I'm sorry I don't understand why people want to move to New Orleans and Portland.

Quote from: Khara on March 23, 2011, 02:31:37 AM
You should do the reality show tour, make a little cash (or a lot). While they are all mainly complete shit, amazing race is cool and you travel like mad.

Seriously though take whatever time to think it thru, you're young, enjoy your life for a bit.

He needs to enjoy life by working with dead people.

I CAN SEE THE FUTURE ECH.

You must become one of the country's leading coroners.

QUICK! SOMEBODY MAKE PUNS ABOUT JOBS!

Quote from: navkat on March 23, 2011, 02:24:12 AM
My apologies. It's finished now.

Did you think about what I said about starting your own business?

I did that once before. There were some things I really liked about it, but not as much as I like actually getting paid (which tends to not happen often enough or in large enough amounts when you own your own business).

If I could have your phone number, I would call you and say "I don't understand why people are like, oh hey a flood plain! I'd like to move there!"

it would be different, I swear to god. There is a reason people want me to like, be their minister and marry them and shit. Mostly people say that I am "nurturing". Also I might be kind of a bitch at times, but that's not really my predominant trait. I am starting to become kind of distressed about my online bitch persona, because seriously, I am every bit as much of a Horrible Bastard in person, but for some reason people find it fucking cuddly or some shit. ECH and Net and TGRR and Freeky and EOT can vouch for this. EOT has seen probably the worst sides of me; he's seen me be a real bitch, and cry, and lose my shit.

I think I'm kind of drunk; dammit. I gave up not drinking and now it only takes about four ounces of wine to fuck me up hard.

Also ECH should become a coroner, because that would fucking rock hard. Dude.

Yup, you're drunk. Coroner is on the list.

Dude, buy a few fast food franchises. Then do surprise inspections and go all Hell's Kitchen when you catch with their pants down, wanking into the single serve portions of mashed potatoes and/or cheesy fiesta potatoes.

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 22, 2011, 10:21:24 PM
Nursing requires making idiots not die, so that's right the fuck out the window. Also doesn't pay enough.

I have, actually, a standing offer to buy in as a partner in a fairly successful medical marijuana business but it is contingent upon me moving to Vantucky (Vancouver, WA) because I'd need to be a WA resident to do it legally and because they want me to help them capture the Clark County, WA segment of the Portland Metro area. I've been thinking this over, but I'm not stoked about the idea of moving across the river to Methcouver.

I could actually get a job at Hanford doing the nuke waste disposal thing. One of my best friends was a supervisor there for a while and made killer money. Said the job was easy as hell, too. But after he'd worked there for 4 or 5 years, his doctor told him he had a choice between quitting that job for good or having children with horrifying birth defects. Not sure that's a deterrent for me, but I also don't think I want to live in the Tri-Cities. I made too much of a name for myself out there in my youth and now all those former enemies are cops and city councilmen.

So far, I'm leaning towards law school. I'd seriously consider being a cop, but I have trouble imagining that they wouldn't see a scumbag like me coming from a mile away.

you could also expand to in the bay area, close to where I live!  I'd get you business too!

Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on March 23, 2011, 04:26:15 AM
Yup, you're drunk. Coroner is on the list.

Dude, buy a few fast food franchises. Then do surprise inspections and go all Hell's Kitchen when you catch with their pants down, wanking into the single serve portions of mashed potatoes and/or cheesy fiesta potatoes.

Or hold up a scorecard.  Whichever.

You should own a bar that also has a music/entertainment license.

Then, wire it for live recording.

Then, wire it for studio recording.

Then, rent it out as a studio during the day/after hours.

Then, start your own record label.

Then, hire me as lead engineer.

Quote from: LMNO, PhD on March 23, 2011, 12:17:36 PM
You should own a bar that also has a music/entertainment license.

Then, wire it for live recording.

Then, wire it for studio recording.

Then, rent it out as a studio during the day/after hours.

Then, start your own record label.

Then, hire me as lead engineer.

I've heard a lot of ideas that sucked more.  Add in a kitchen, so you can still do as much as you feel like doing.  A bar that does good food is an awesome thing.

Quote from: LMNO, PhD on March 23, 2011, 12:17:36 PM
You should own a bar that also has a music/entertainment license.

Then, wire it for live recording.

Then, wire it for studio recording.

Then, rent it out as a studio during the day/after hours.

Then, start your own record label.

Then, hire me as lead engineer.

Hey, you're a sound engineer?

Interesting...

::points to The Spider Project and Earfatigue Productions page::


Wait, that's a threadjack.  Meet me in Bring and Brag.

Buy a crab boat.

Go on "Deadliest Catch"

Take pain in the ass n00bs from here as deck hands.  Let them wash overboard right before going to port.

Dump delicious crabs at port. Save some to send to PD friends!!

Collect money!!

Get new batch of N00bs.

Repeat.

Quote from: Khara on March 23, 2011, 01:17:58 PM
Buy a crab boat.

Go on "Deadliest Catch"

Take pain in the ass n00bs from here as deck hands.  Let them wash overboard right before going to port.

Dump delicious crabs at port. Save some to send to PD friends!!

Collect money!!

Get new batch of N00bs.

Repeat.

We need the noobz. Use noobz from other site plz.

Quote from: navkat on March 23, 2011, 01:22:38 PM

Quote from: Khara on March 23, 2011, 01:17:58 PM
Buy a crab boat.

Go on "Deadliest Catch"

Take pain in the ass n00bs from here as deck hands.  Let them wash overboard right before going to port.

Dump delicious crabs at port. Save some to send to PD friends!!

Collect money!!

Get new batch of N00bs.

Repeat.

We need the noobz. Use noobz from other site plz.

Not ALL the n00bz, just the pain in the ass ones.

Though I'm having visions of one or two people who know what they're doing, trying to walk a bunch of other regulars around here through running a boat...

I'm quite fond of LMNO's idea Re: recording studio + liquor license.  It might not bank as much, but the benefits.  The BENEFITS.

Quote from: Sigmatic on March 23, 2011, 06:40:51 PM
I'm quite fond of LMNO's idea Re: recording studio + liquor license.  It might not bank as much, but the benefits.  The BENEFITS.

Combine with the reality TV show idea.

Pick a spot with a concentration of discordians, and staff it with 'em.  Film resulting hilarity.

Quote from: Luna on March 23, 2011, 06:47:09 PM

Quote from: Sigmatic on March 23, 2011, 06:40:51 PM
I'm quite fond of LMNO's idea Re: recording studio + liquor license.  It might not bank as much, but the benefits.  The BENEFITS.

Combine with the reality TV show idea.

Pick a spot with a concentration of discordians, and staff it with 'em.  Film resulting hilarity.

Send clips to the 700 club for free advertising......  :wink:

Quote from: Khara on March 23, 2011, 01:17:58 PM
Buy a crab boat.

Crab Fishing.
If you could do this-you would make some $.
But then you would have to be in business for yourself to make the $-which means you would not be making the money right away.
Hmmm.

So far I like-
Crab fishing
IT
Law
Cop



Possibly throw in there some thought on a professor or teacher. Not sure they make 100k though. Maybe some professors. ?
Or
Film/video
I have a friend who went to school-roughly four yrs. for film and has worked (behind the scenes) on numerous gigs with the film crews (not movies really, but you could think about that too. Mostly sporting events and such). Making nearly 80K or so without much effort.

btw-sucks about the allergy.

The more I think about it, the more I think you'd be a great bounty hunter/private dick, ECH. 

Quote from: maphdet on March 23, 2011, 07:41:26 PM

Possibly throw in there some thought on a professor or teacher. Not sure they make 100k though. Maybe some professors. ?

I work at a university.  To make 100k, at least here, you've gotta have a doctorate, plus SERIOUS seniority.

Quote from: Roaring Biscuit! on March 22, 2011, 03:22:23 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2006/feb/05/medicineandhealth.research (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2006/feb/05/medicineandhealth.research)

just a thought

x

edd

I've heard about this before. It seems promising.

Medicinal Marijuana collective owner, or grower.   :D


I know it was already said...but I wanted to re-suggest it since it would be awesome.

Quote from: SARAH PALIN on March 23, 2011, 07:00:50 AM

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 22, 2011, 10:21:24 PM
Nursing requires making idiots not die, so that's right the fuck out the window. Also doesn't pay enough.

I have, actually, a standing offer to buy in as a partner in a fairly successful medical marijuana business but it is contingent upon me moving to Vantucky (Vancouver, WA) because I'd need to be a WA resident to do it legally and because they want me to help them capture the Clark County, WA segment of the Portland Metro area. I've been thinking this over, but I'm not stoked about the idea of moving across the river to Methcouver.

I could actually get a job at Hanford doing the nuke waste disposal thing. One of my best friends was a supervisor there for a while and made killer money. Said the job was easy as hell, too. But after he'd worked there for 4 or 5 years, his doctor told him he had a choice between quitting that job for good or having children with horrifying birth defects. Not sure that's a deterrent for me, but I also don't think I want to live in the Tri-Cities. I made too much of a name for myself out there in my youth and now all those former enemies are cops and city councilmen.

So far, I'm leaning towards law school. I'd seriously consider being a cop, but I have trouble imagining that they wouldn't see a scumbag like me coming from a mile away.

you could also expand to in the bay area, close to where I live!  I'd get you business too!

Unfortunately, even though all 3 west coast states have legal medical marijuana, you have to keep your business operating in one state only lest you run afoul of federal laws prohibiting interstate transport of drugs. The feds would probably LOVE to make an example out of someone for that, and it won't be me.

Quote from: Nigel on March 23, 2011, 03:08:33 AM
If I could have your phone number, I would call you and say "I don't understand why people are like, oh hey a flood plain! I'd like to move there!"

it would be different, I swear to god. There is a reason people want me to like, be their minister and marry them and shit. Mostly people say that I am "nurturing". Also I might be kind of a bitch at times, but that's not really my predominant trait. I am starting to become kind of distressed about my online bitch persona, because seriously, I am every bit as much of a Horrible Bastard in person, but for some reason people find it fucking cuddly or some shit. ECH and Net and TGRR and Freeky and EOT can vouch for this. EOT has seen probably the worst sides of me; he's seen me be a real bitch, and cry, and lose my shit.

I think I'm kind of drunk; dammit. I gave up not drinking and now it only takes about four ounces of wine to fuck me up hard.

Also ECH should become a coroner, because that would fucking rock hard. Dude.

When we hang out in person, it is sometimes difficult for me not to just randomly hug you for being so adorable. Even when you're saying/doing something that would come off as "heinous bitchface" in an online context.

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 23, 2011, 10:58:34 PM

Quote from: Nigel on March 23, 2011, 03:08:33 AM
If I could have your phone number, I would call you and say "I don't understand why people are like, oh hey a flood plain! I'd like to move there!"

it would be different, I swear to god. There is a reason people want me to like, be their minister and marry them and shit. Mostly people say that I am "nurturing". Also I might be kind of a bitch at times, but that's not really my predominant trait. I am starting to become kind of distressed about my online bitch persona, because seriously, I am every bit as much of a Horrible Bastard in person, but for some reason people find it fucking cuddly or some shit. ECH and Net and TGRR and Freeky and EOT can vouch for this. EOT has seen probably the worst sides of me; he's seen me be a real bitch, and cry, and lose my shit.

I think I'm kind of drunk; dammit. I gave up not drinking and now it only takes about four ounces of wine to fuck me up hard.

Also ECH should become a coroner, because that would fucking rock hard. Dude.

When we hang out in person, it is sometimes difficult for me not to just randomly hug you for being so adorable. Even when you're saying/doing something that would come off as "heinous bitchface" in an online context.

I don't even fucking get it

I'm like your tiny little dog. Secretly I'm a giant asshole who beats people up, but nature cursed me with being tiny and huggable or some shit so I never learned.

I rail against my fate!

Quote from: maphdet on March 23, 2011, 07:41:26 PM

Quote from: Khara on March 23, 2011, 01:17:58 PM
Buy a crab boat.

Crab Fishing.
If you could do this-you would make some $.
But then you would have to be in business for yourself to make the $-which means you would not be making the money right away.
Hmmm.

So far I like-
Crab fishing
IT
Law
Cop



Possibly throw in there some thought on a professor or teacher. Not sure they make 100k though. Maybe some professors. ?
Or
Film/video
I have a friend who went to school-roughly four yrs. for film and has worked (behind the scenes) on numerous gigs with the film crews (not movies really, but you could think about that too. Mostly sporting events and such). Making nearly 80K or so without much effort.

btw-sucks about the allergy.

I could handle being on a crab boat, but I don't have the resources to buy one outright and staff/equip it, so I'd have to go as a greehorn. I've thought about it before, but my window of being able to take that kind of repeated physical beating is probably closing.

I've also thought about getting into the film industry (as a tech or grip or something along those lines) and I have an "in" in the industry. Would probably be able to make 60K pretty easily and maybe 80 or 90K in a few years, but there's one problem with that line of work, and it is the single most insurmountable problem I can think of:

I'd have to move to LA. There is literally nothing in the entire world that I hate more than LA. I'd rather be a hobo and have to clean piss off of peoples' shoes with my tongue for food than live in LA ever again.

Quote from: Nigel on March 23, 2011, 11:01:03 PM

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 23, 2011, 10:58:34 PM

Quote from: Nigel on March 23, 2011, 03:08:33 AM
If I could have your phone number, I would call you and say "I don't understand why people are like, oh hey a flood plain! I'd like to move there!"

it would be different, I swear to god. There is a reason people want me to like, be their minister and marry them and shit. Mostly people say that I am "nurturing". Also I might be kind of a bitch at times, but that's not really my predominant trait. I am starting to become kind of distressed about my online bitch persona, because seriously, I am every bit as much of a Horrible Bastard in person, but for some reason people find it fucking cuddly or some shit. ECH and Net and TGRR and Freeky and EOT can vouch for this. EOT has seen probably the worst sides of me; he's seen me be a real bitch, and cry, and lose my shit.

I think I'm kind of drunk; dammit. I gave up not drinking and now it only takes about four ounces of wine to fuck me up hard.

Also ECH should become a coroner, because that would fucking rock hard. Dude.

When we hang out in person, it is sometimes difficult for me not to just randomly hug you for being so adorable. Even when you're saying/doing something that would come off as "heinous bitchface" in an online context.

I don't even fucking get it

I'm like your tiny little dog. Secretly I'm a giant asshole who beats people up, but nature cursed me with being tiny and huggable so I never learned.

I rail against my fate!

If it makes you feel any better, I frequently have the exact opposite problem. Apparently, I just LOOK like a shady asshole who is ready to get violent at the drop of a hat when I am, in fact, a paragon of reasonableness and civility.

I was raised by a father who was a violent, paranoid, sociopathic ass who felt that the world was made up entirely of stupid people who were given unfair advantages. He believes that charity is naivete and kindness is foolishness. He thinks the world needs to change but feels like it's everyone else's responsibility to get cracking on that because when it comes to him, it's dog-eat-dog.

My problem is I didn't want to be him so I went to the opposite extreme.

I don't believe there's any such thing as an "unfair advantage". You make your own luck.

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 24, 2011, 12:50:23 AM
I don't believe there's any such thing as an "unfair advantage". You make your own luck.

To a point.  And then you accidentally Dick Cheney.

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 23, 2011, 11:06:16 PM

Quote from: Nigel on March 23, 2011, 11:01:03 PM

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 23, 2011, 10:58:34 PM

Quote from: Nigel on March 23, 2011, 03:08:33 AM
If I could have your phone number, I would call you and say "I don't understand why people are like, oh hey a flood plain! I'd like to move there!"

it would be different, I swear to god. There is a reason people want me to like, be their minister and marry them and shit. Mostly people say that I am "nurturing". Also I might be kind of a bitch at times, but that's not really my predominant trait. I am starting to become kind of distressed about my online bitch persona, because seriously, I am every bit as much of a Horrible Bastard in person, but for some reason people find it fucking cuddly or some shit. ECH and Net and TGRR and Freeky and EOT can vouch for this. EOT has seen probably the worst sides of me; he's seen me be a real bitch, and cry, and lose my shit.

I think I'm kind of drunk; dammit. I gave up not drinking and now it only takes about four ounces of wine to fuck me up hard.

Also ECH should become a coroner, because that would fucking rock hard. Dude.

When we hang out in person, it is sometimes difficult for me not to just randomly hug you for being so adorable. Even when you're saying/doing something that would come off as "heinous bitchface" in an online context.

I don't even fucking get it

I'm like your tiny little dog. Secretly I'm a giant asshole who beats people up, but nature cursed me with being tiny and huggable so I never learned.

I rail against my fate!

If it makes you feel any better, I frequently have the exact opposite problem. Apparently, I just LOOK like a shady asshole who is ready to get violent at the drop of a hat when I am, in fact, a paragon of reasonableness and civility.

Heee. Hee heee heeee!

My mom has borderline personality disorder. My dad is some kind of superhero or something. I feel like that shit has set me up poorly in terms of being a good human being, but I'm trying really hard anyway.

Quote from: Nigel on March 24, 2011, 01:54:01 AM
My mom has borderline personality disorder. My dad is some kind of superhero or something.

Hey, me too! And look how awesome I am! You'll be fine!

Quote from: Nigel on March 23, 2011, 02:05:26 AM
Talking to Roger is a whole different experience because once you get him on the phone you can totally tell he's holding back laughter the whole fucking time. Or not holding it back; he laughs a lot.

It helps stop the screaming.

Also, I reiterate:  ECH --->  Born cop.

Here's why:

ECH:  "Sir, do you know how fast you were going?"

Dickhead:  "Do you KNOW who you're talking to?"

ECH:  "Sir, please step out of the car for the field sobriety test."

(Note that the field sobriety test sometimes includes rolling down embankments.)

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 24, 2011, 02:06:55 AM

Quote from: Nigel on March 24, 2011, 01:54:01 AM
My mom has borderline personality disorder. My dad is some kind of superhero or something.

Hey, me too! And look how awesome I am! You'll be fine!

I LOLed.

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2011, 02:31:46 AM
Here's why:

ECH:  "Sir, do you know how fast you were going?"

Dickhead:  "Do you KNOW who you're talking to?"

ECH:  "Sir, please step out of the car for the field sobriety test."

(Note that the field sobriety test sometimes includes rolling down embankments.)

Again, LOLing.

Quote from: Nigel on March 24, 2011, 02:34:28 AM

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2011, 02:31:46 AM
Here's why:

ECH:  "Sir, do you know how fast you were going?"

Dickhead:  "Do you KNOW who you're talking to?"

ECH:  "Sir, please step out of the car for the field sobriety test."

(Note that the field sobriety test sometimes includes rolling down embankments.)

Again, LOLing.

There are a few things you never say to a cop.  That is #3 on the list.

What's #2?

Quote from: navkat on March 24, 2011, 02:38:05 AM
What's #2?

"I pay your salary, Goddammit."

That's a good one.  Leads to no end of hilarity.

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2011, 02:39:29 AM

Quote from: navkat on March 24, 2011, 02:38:05 AM
What's #2?

"I pay your salary, Goddammit."

That's a good one.  Leads to no end of hilarity.

I request to see the full list.  :lulz:

I already suspect that I know what #1 is.

Quote from: navkat on March 24, 2011, 02:55:07 AM
I already suspect that I know what #1 is.

"Don't you have real criminals to bother?"

If'n your at all interested in the cop thing... and want to check into it with someone in the know... my baby bro has a year + under his belt with the PoPo.  I could prolly get you in touch.  He has many wonderful stories of his adventures on SE 82nd and in NE.  Most of his best stories so far involve people being complete fucking idiots with what they say in response to his simple questions.  Then there was the old lady that kicked him in the 'nads because him and his partner wouldn't take all 152 cats and/or dogs/gerbils/rabbits - I don't fucking know what kind of critters - away for her because she was having 'issues'.  Really, really cool way to get to know people though.
Yeah, be cop.

Quote from: Sexecutioner Chao Tight on March 24, 2011, 03:02:04 AM
If'n your at all interested in the cop thing... and want to check into it with someone in the know... my baby bro has a year + under his belt with the PoPo.  I could prolly get you in touch.  He has many wonderful stories of his adventures on SE 82nd and in NE.  Most of his best stories so far involve people being complete fucking idiots with what they say in response to his simple questions.  Then there was the old lady that kicked him in the 'nads because him and his partner wouldn't take all 152 cats and/or dogs/gerbils/rabbits - I don't fucking know what kind of critters - away for her because she was having 'issues'.  Really, really cool way to get to know people though.
Yeah, be cop.

I couldn't keep a straight face, so I whored out to Big Oil and called it a day.

If I decided to be a cop, I'd HAVE to move. I don't have it in me to be a PDX cop.

ECH,
won't shoot unarmed black men, crazy homeless people, or teenage girls without a halfway decent reason

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2011, 02:35:23 AM

Quote from: Nigel on March 24, 2011, 02:34:28 AM

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2011, 02:31:46 AM
Here's why:

ECH:  "Sir, do you know how fast you were going?"

Dickhead:  "Do you KNOW who you're talking to?"

ECH:  "Sir, please step out of the car for the field sobriety test."

(Note that the field sobriety test sometimes includes rolling down embankments.)

Again, LOLing.

There are a few things you never say to a cop.  That is #3 on the list.

So, what are the things you *Should* say to a cop?

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 24, 2011, 03:06:38 AM
If I decided to be a cop, I'd HAVE to move. I don't have it in me to be a PDX cop.

ECH,
won't shoot unarmed black men, crazy homeless people, or teenage girls without a halfway decent reason

Tucson cops are pretty cool.  And our county (Pima) sheriff has ten thousand screaming teabaggers trying to recall him because he won't make his men beat up random Hispanics.  I am sure there are other cities that also reserve official wrath for entitled assbags driving Lexuses.

Quote from: Lies on March 24, 2011, 03:07:36 AM

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2011, 02:35:23 AM

Quote from: Nigel on March 24, 2011, 02:34:28 AM

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2011, 02:31:46 AM
Here's why:

ECH:  "Sir, do you know how fast you were going?"

Dickhead:  "Do you KNOW who you're talking to?"

ECH:  "Sir, please step out of the car for the field sobriety test."

(Note that the field sobriety test sometimes includes rolling down embankments.)

Again, LOLing.

There are a few things you never say to a cop.  That is #3 on the list.

So, what are the things you *Should* say to a cop?

Lots of things.  Just keep in mind that being polite to cranky, armed men costs you nothing, and that the cop has already had a far, far worse day than you are, the stop included.  For example, you probably didn't spend an hour cleaning wino vomit out of the back seat of you car.  You probably also didn't shovel a dead 19 year old hooker out of a dumpster the previous night.

Note that this may not apply in all areas.  ECH indicates that PDX may be one of those other areas.

The cops are the only thing in this town I'm afraid of. :lulz:



Though I have a healthy respect for the bridges.

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 24, 2011, 03:13:45 AM

Though I have a healthy respect for the bridges.

When they start singing to you, drive South like a mad bastard.  We'll hide you.

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2011, 03:01:27 AM

Quote from: navkat on March 24, 2011, 02:55:07 AM
I already suspect that I know what #1 is.

"Don't you have real criminals to bother?"

I was gonna go with "Why you stop me? I didn't do NOTHIN wrong Ididn'tdonuthinwrong why you stop me for, huh? You ain't got no more donuts left to eat or something?"

Or thereabouts.

Quote from: navkat on March 24, 2011, 03:20:41 AM

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2011, 03:01:27 AM

Quote from: navkat on March 24, 2011, 02:55:07 AM
I already suspect that I know what #1 is.

"Don't you have real criminals to bother?"

I was gonna go with "Why you stop me? I didn't do NOTHIN wrong Ididn'tdonuthinwrong why you stop me for, huh? You ain't got no more donuts left to eat or something?"

Or thereabouts.

That translates roughly to "Officer, would you mind terribly hauling me out of the window and applying your taser to my bits?".

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 24, 2011, 03:06:38 AM
... shoot unarmed black men, crazy homeless people, or teenage girls without a halfway decent reason

oh c'mon, you know any half-way self-respecting metro area practically prides itself on having "some" members of it's police force being bat-shit crazy.  Fuck, I think there are three deputies that cover the county I live in, I know at least one of them is fucking insane.

First of all, I don't think PDX counts as a "halfway self-respecting metro area". Barely 2 million people, and a quarter of them live in Clark County. Some of them even live in Gresham.

And I've lived in alot of places and a fair number of big cities. Portland has the worst cops I've seen outside of San Juan and St. Thomas.

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 24, 2011, 04:57:36 AM
First of all, I don't think PDX counts as a "halfway self-respecting metro area". Barely 2 million people, and a quarter of them live in Clark County. Some of them even live in Gresham.

And I've lived in alot of places and a fair number of big cities. Portland has the worst cops I've seen outside of San Juan and St. Thomas.

169% Truth

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 24, 2011, 03:06:38 AM
If I decided to be a cop, I'd HAVE to move. I don't have it in me to be a PDX cop.

ECH,
won't shoot unarmed black men, crazy homeless people, or teenage girls without a halfway decent reason

Yeah um, this is not the place to be a cop or work for the city if you're a decent person.

You're an Island kid, right?  and you're a water rat.  I'd suggest Commercial Diving, and learn Hyperbaric welding underwater.  It's a niche skill that has pretty high demand, allows you to stay on boats and on the water, and if you learn a bit about structural engineering and get some equipment that can produce thermal scans of things like a bridge support to identify cracks and damage, I know for a fact that there's only a hand full of companies nation wide that contract to inspect the underwater supports of bridges (train mostly) and if in need of repair, send a diver down with some steel plate and repair it.  The guy I was working for learning how to do this ran his own two man shop and pulled it in hand over fist.  I'd still be doing it if I didn't get a better offer.  It's still my fall back should this ever get stale, as I love boats and diving and really miss being on and in the water.

Bar.
Studio.
Record Label.
Srsly.

Quote from: Pickled Starfish on March 24, 2011, 12:09:45 PM
You're an Island kid, right?  and you're a water rat.  I'd suggest Commercial Diving, and learn Hyperbaric welding underwater.  It's a niche skill that has pretty high demand, allows you to stay on boats and on the water, and if you learn a bit about structural engineering and get some equipment that can produce thermal scans of things like a bridge support to identify cracks and damage, I know for a fact that there's only a hand full of companies nation wide that contract to inspect the underwater supports of bridges (train mostly) and if in need of repair, send a diver down with some steel plate and repair it.  The guy I was working for learning how to do this ran his own two man shop and pulled it in hand over fist.  I'd still be doing it if I didn't get a better offer.  It's still my fall back should this ever get stale, as I love boats and diving and really miss being on and in the water.

What? NO!

Diving is not a life-long career unless you relish brain damage and an early death.

I think it can be a job that tends to put you under a lot of pressure.  

Quote from: navkat on March 24, 2011, 12:35:24 PM

Quote from: Pickled Starfish on March 24, 2011, 12:09:45 PM
You're an Island kid, right?  and you're a water rat.  I'd suggest Commercial Diving, and learn Hyperbaric welding underwater.  It's a niche skill that has pretty high demand, allows you to stay on boats and on the water, and if you learn a bit about structural engineering and get some equipment that can produce thermal scans of things like a bridge support to identify cracks and damage, I know for a fact that there's only a hand full of companies nation wide that contract to inspect the underwater supports of bridges (train mostly) and if in need of repair, send a diver down with some steel plate and repair it.  The guy I was working for learning how to do this ran his own two man shop and pulled it in hand over fist.  I'd still be doing it if I didn't get a better offer.  It's still my fall back should this ever get stale, as I love boats and diving and really miss being on and in the water.

What? NO!

Diving is not a life-long career unless you relish brain damage and an early death.

when diving safely and correctly, not ascending too quickly, proper gas mixture, etc. there is little to no risk over a divers lifetime.  It's when divers get the bends that brain damage can occur.  You only get the bends if you're not doing it right.

Agreed.

However, I was in the Navy. I dated a lot of frogmen.SEALs, My best friend was a pro diver. I live in an area of the country where about 20% of the employed men are commercial divers for the Merchant Marines/Oil Industry. Shit happens. Regularly.

The point is: you're relying on too many human factors and too many mistakes. Improperly mixed oxygen lines, impatient Captains, poor safety/OSHA/Coast Guard adherence...it all equates to carbonated blood, days off work, teeth that go explodey in your mouf. It's a rough life that's rough on your body and most divers will tell you that eventually, they're gonna have to find something else to do because your days are numbered as a diver.

Am I wrong?

Quote from: navkat on March 24, 2011, 12:52:33 PM
Agreed.

However, I was in the Navy. I dated a lot of frogmen.SEALs, My best friend was a pro diver. I live in an area of the country where about 20% of the employed men are commercial divers for the Merchant Marines/Oil Industry. Shit happens. Regularly.

The point is: you're relying on too many human factors and too many mistakes. Improperly mixed oxygen lines, impatient Captains, poor safety/OSHA/Coast Guard adherence...it all equates to carbonated blood, days off work, teeth that go explodey in your mouf. It's a rough life that's rough on your body and most divers will tell you that eventually, they're gonna have to find something else to do because your days are numbered as a diver.

Am I wrong?

nope, all those things do occur, likely way more often than is even necessary.  The good news is, after Bluewater Horizon, the coast guard is coming down a lot harder on all vessels on the water to stay in compliance with safety regulations.  It's still always going to really be on the diver to see that his safety comes first.  Only dive with a captain you can trust, run your own lines, watch your own time below the surface and know your shit when it comes to getting the nitrogen out of your blood safely.

And if you're running your own shop, there's no excuse to not be covering your own ass and only diving with a captain that knows what the fucking risks are of not doing it right. 

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 24, 2011, 03:06:38 AM
If I decided to be a cop, I'd HAVE to move. I don't have it in me to be a PDX cop.

ECH,
won't shoot unarmed black men, crazy homeless people, or teenage girls without a halfway decent reason

:cry:

But that means St. Louis is not an option....

:cry:

Doesn't matter.  ECH is still gonna be a chef.

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2011, 01:46:29 PM
Doesn't matter.  ECH is still gonna be a chef.

A LOVE chef.

Quote from: Pickled Starfish on March 24, 2011, 12:09:45 PM
You're an Island kid, right?  and you're a water rat.  I'd suggest Commercial Diving, and learn Hyperbaric welding underwater.  It's a niche skill that has pretty high demand, allows you to stay on boats and on the water, and if you learn a bit about structural engineering and get some equipment that can produce thermal scans of things like a bridge support to identify cracks and damage, I know for a fact that there's only a hand full of companies nation wide that contract to inspect the underwater supports of bridges (train mostly) and if in need of repair, send a diver down with some steel plate and repair it.  The guy I was working for learning how to do this ran his own two man shop and pulled it in hand over fist.  I'd still be doing it if I didn't get a better offer.  It's still my fall back should this ever get stale, as I love boats and diving and really miss being on and in the water.

That's actually a hell of an idea.

Quote from: navkat on March 24, 2011, 12:35:24 PM

Quote from: Pickled Starfish on March 24, 2011, 12:09:45 PM
You're an Island kid, right?  and you're a water rat.  I'd suggest Commercial Diving, and learn Hyperbaric welding underwater.  It's a niche skill that has pretty high demand, allows you to stay on boats and on the water, and if you learn a bit about structural engineering and get some equipment that can produce thermal scans of things like a bridge support to identify cracks and damage, I know for a fact that there's only a hand full of companies nation wide that contract to inspect the underwater supports of bridges (train mostly) and if in need of repair, send a diver down with some steel plate and repair it.  The guy I was working for learning how to do this ran his own two man shop and pulled it in hand over fist.  I'd still be doing it if I didn't get a better offer.  It's still my fall back should this ever get stale, as I love boats and diving and really miss being on and in the water.

What? NO!

Diving is not a life-long career unless you relish brain damage and an early death.

I feel like I should point out that I have an almost pathological disregard for my own physical safety. Not out of some retarded sense of machismo, just because that's the way I'm wired.

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 24, 2011, 04:40:14 PM

Quote from: navkat on March 24, 2011, 12:35:24 PM

Quote from: Pickled Starfish on March 24, 2011, 12:09:45 PM
You're an Island kid, right?  and you're a water rat.  I'd suggest Commercial Diving, and learn Hyperbaric welding underwater.  It's a niche skill that has pretty high demand, allows you to stay on boats and on the water, and if you learn a bit about structural engineering and get some equipment that can produce thermal scans of things like a bridge support to identify cracks and damage, I know for a fact that there's only a hand full of companies nation wide that contract to inspect the underwater supports of bridges (train mostly) and if in need of repair, send a diver down with some steel plate and repair it.  The guy I was working for learning how to do this ran his own two man shop and pulled it in hand over fist.  I'd still be doing it if I didn't get a better offer.  It's still my fall back should this ever get stale, as I love boats and diving and really miss being on and in the water.

well then, working with electricity, underwater, while breathing compressed gas sounds like just your thing.  If you can practice and get good at laying down a nice, clean weld, and get a few good jobs under your belt, the salary you can command is pretty fucking enticing.
What? NO!

Diving is not a life-long career unless you relish brain damage and an early death.

I feel like I should point out that I have an almost pathological disregard for my own physical safety. Not out of some retarded sense of machismo, just because that's the way I'm wired.