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Principia Discordia => Aneristic Illusions => Topic started by: Don Coyote on April 08, 2011, 08:42:03 PM

Title: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Don Coyote on April 08, 2011, 08:42:03 PM
http://www.dfas.mil/

QuoteStatement on Possible
Government Shutdown

The Administration hopes that a government shutdown can be averted, so that servicemembers and DoD employees can be paid in full and on time. If the funding bill is enacted at the last minute, it is possible that payroll payments could be split into two electronic deposits or checks, but the total amount normally paid will not be affected.

If a funding bill is not passed, resulting in a government shutdown, the Department of Defense will have no legal authority to pay military members or civilian employees for the days during which the government is shut down. The current Continuing Resolution Act (CRA) expires at midnight on April 8. Active and Reserve military members will be paid on time for pay earned prior to the expiration of the CRA -- approximately half of their normal mid-month payment. Civilians will be paid for each day worked through Friday, April 8. Because the normal pay period ends Saturday, April 9, this will usually equate to a full paycheck. The shutdown will not affect payments to retirees or annuitants because they are not paid from CRA appropriations.

Once another CRA or an appropriations act is signed into law, normal disbursement of pay will resume for pay earned after employees return to work. Excepted employees who perform duty during the shutdown will be entitled to retroactive payments, as will servicemembers. For furloughed employees, Congress will have to provide authority for retroactive payments to be made.

From the FAQ

QuoteQ2. Will I remain on duty?
Active duty and reservists on active duty will continue to report for duty.

FUCK YOU
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on April 08, 2011, 08:43:37 PM
HOW IS ACTIVE DUTY SOLDIER NOT "NECESSARY PERSONNEL"?!?!?!   :argh!:
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Don Coyote on April 08, 2011, 08:44:27 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on April 08, 2011, 08:43:37 PM
HOW IS ACTIVE DUTY SOLDIER NOT "NECESSARY PERSONNEL"?!?!?!   :argh!:

Oh we are, so essential we have to work without pay.
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Freeky on April 08, 2011, 08:45:32 PM
D:  Fuck.
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Luna on April 08, 2011, 08:48:26 PM
Brilliant.  Tell the men with the guns that they're not getting paid.
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Don Coyote on April 08, 2011, 08:49:57 PM
Quote from: Luna on April 08, 2011, 08:48:26 PM
Brilliant.  Tell the men with the guns that they're not getting paid.

I honestly want this to be so fucked it's like this for 2 or more months. But since it will likely only be a month everyone will just suck it up and drive on.
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on April 08, 2011, 08:50:23 PM
Quote from: Donald Coyote on April 08, 2011, 08:44:27 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on April 08, 2011, 08:43:37 PM
HOW IS ACTIVE DUTY SOLDIER NOT "NECESSARY PERSONNEL"?!?!?!   :argh!:

Oh we are, so essential we have to work without pay.

But they're still paying the ATF guys.... total bullshit.

Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: LMNO on April 08, 2011, 08:54:03 PM
I heard from an unverified source that once a budget passes, the troops will be paid retroactively.

i.e. if you don't get paid this week, you'll get paid double next week.


Of course, unverified sources cannot be verified.
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Don Coyote on April 08, 2011, 08:58:00 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on April 08, 2011, 08:54:03 PM
I heard from an unverified source that once a budget passes, the troops will be paid retroactively.

i.e. if you don't get paid this week, you'll get paid double next week.


Of course, unverified sources cannot be verified.

Oh we will. But most of us have bills to pay THIS month.
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on April 08, 2011, 09:01:46 PM
Quote from: Donald Coyote on April 08, 2011, 08:58:00 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on April 08, 2011, 08:54:03 PM
I heard from an unverified source that once a budget passes, the troops will be paid retroactively.

i.e. if you don't get paid this week, you'll get paid double next week.


Of course, unverified sources cannot be verified.

Oh we will. But most of us have bills to pay THIS month.

Tell the bill collectors to take it up with the guys in DC :D
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Jasper on April 08, 2011, 09:16:38 PM
Government...shutdown?

Someone explain?
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on April 08, 2011, 09:23:54 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on April 08, 2011, 09:16:38 PM
Government...shutdown?

Someone explain?

Seriously?
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Jasper on April 08, 2011, 09:27:47 PM
I just never imagined it happening.  Has that ever happened?
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on April 08, 2011, 09:53:12 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on April 08, 2011, 09:27:47 PM
I just never imagined it happening.  Has that ever happened?

Yep.
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Jasper on April 08, 2011, 09:58:16 PM
Weird.  Business as usual, I guess. 
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on April 08, 2011, 10:51:16 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on April 08, 2011, 09:58:16 PM
Weird.  Business as usual, I guess. 

Yeah the GOP tried this under the Clinton admin... which resulted in Clinton gaining more approval and getting reelected... apparently they think it will be magically different this time.
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Requia ☣ on April 08, 2011, 11:51:22 PM
If democrats fold at the last minute it could go really well for the GOP.
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Don Coyote on April 09, 2011, 12:34:01 AM
All medical appoints on Ft Lewis have been tentatively canceled pending the douche-bags in charge making a fucking decision to pay us.

Guess who had a mental health appoint and two appoints related to his ankle this month?

Coyote, pissed off.

I also ended up working an extra hour too.
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Freeky on April 09, 2011, 12:35:11 AM
Shit dude. :(
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Luna on April 09, 2011, 12:37:52 AM
Get the doc to sign off stating that the delay in attention for your ankle resulted in permanent damage, and it's all Congress's fault, and sue their collective asses.   :wink:
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Don Coyote on April 09, 2011, 01:09:35 AM
Quote from: Luna on April 09, 2011, 12:37:52 AM
Get the doc to sign off stating that the delay in attention for your ankle resulted in permanent damage, and it's all Congress's fault, and sue their collective asses.   :wink:

Well, I know my ankle won't have improved by the next time I was scheduled, so I know it won't have improved when I'll actually get an appointment. Which means I will make an ass of myself until I get seen by at least one other doctor about my ankle and they explina to me how surgery will or won't fix this shit.

Coyote, is gonna get fucking disability when he gets the fuck out. The Army done fucked his legs up without getting him blowed up.


FROM The Northwest Guardian(local free newspaper focused on JBLM, Joint Base Lewis-McChord)

http://www.nwguardian.com/2011/04/08/9926/jblm-plans-for-service-disruptions.html

QuoteMilitary personnel would report for duty as normal during a shutdown. Reserve component personnel should check with their chain of command for more specific information. Civilian personnel who are performing work in activities exempted from the shutdown would continue to work during the period of a shutdown. Those not performing exempted duties would be furloughed – placed in a non-pay non-duty status – until an appropriation or continuing resolution is enacted.

Military personnel and civilians who would be required to work in exempted activities during will be entitled to be paid for work performed during the shutdown, and will be paid retroactively once the department receives additional funding. However, during a shutdown, the Defense Department would have no funds to pay military members or civilian employees for the days during which the government is shut down. Both military and civilian personnel should receive pay on time for the period worked prior to a shutdown.

Congress would have to provide authority in order for the department to retroactively pay non-excepted employees for a furloughed period.

Military retirement pay would not be affected by a shutdown and should continue without interruption.
FUCKING ASSHOLES!!!!!!!!!!

QuoteMadigan Healthcare System: Madigan Healthcare System's care would focus on inpatient, urgent and emergency outpatient care, as well as urgent behavioral health care or crisis intervention. Some specialty services would remain open such as those for dialysis, hematology and oncology. All pregnancy and pediatric care will also continue, but pharmacy services will be limited. Scheduled appointments would not be canceled; however patients may be seen by different medical providers. Some specialty appointments, to include elective surgery may be curtailed. The appointment line at 1-800-404-4506 will remain open for beneficiaries to inquire about their appointments and for those in need of urgent "non-emergency" care. Medical care on the TRICARE network would continue.

Ok good. FUCKERS.

QuoteAAFES: All facilities would remain open throughout shutdown.

DECA (COMMISSARY): Would remain open throughout the shutdown.

At least that isn't getting shut down.

Cuz if it did....shit might get real.
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Don Coyote on April 09, 2011, 01:46:01 AM
And....I am hearing things. Shit might be getting real.
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Freeky on April 09, 2011, 01:54:14 AM
Shit.
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Freckleback on April 09, 2011, 01:54:38 AM
Take heart in the fact that the truly essential government  personnel will still get paid!

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/04/07/6425922-who-gets-paid-if-theres-a-shutdown-members-of-congress-still-will
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Requia ☣ on April 09, 2011, 01:59:09 AM
Quote from: Donald Coyote on April 09, 2011, 01:46:01 AM
And....I am hearing things. Shit might be getting real.

I'm not sure if I should be happy or terrified.
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: Freeky on April 09, 2011, 02:00:50 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on April 09, 2011, 01:59:09 AM
Quote from: Donald Coyote on April 09, 2011, 01:46:01 AM
And....I am hearing things. Shit might be getting real.

I'm not sure if I should be happy or terrified.

I feel the same.
Title: Re: From DFAS RE: Military Pay
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 09, 2011, 02:04:38 AM
Quote from: nihilbilly on April 09, 2011, 01:54:38 AM
Take heart in the fact that the truly essential government  personnel will still get paid!

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/04/07/6425922-who-gets-paid-if-theres-a-shutdown-members-of-congress-still-will

:lulz: