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Principia Discordia => Aneristic Illusions => Topic started by: Dysnomia on April 21, 2011, 06:54:11 PM

Title: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: Dysnomia on April 21, 2011, 06:54:11 PM
My career might be over before it really starts.  All of you who know me know how hard I've worked for this, and I was going to keep moving up the levels of certification, take courses taught by top equine veterinarians, and eventually become one of the few Master Equine Body Workers in the world.   :|


http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/11-12/bill/sen/sb_0651-0700/sb_697_bill_20110218_introduced.pdf

is the bill itself.  I've already emailed my opinions to my representatives.  In certain parts of the country anything that provides relief to a horse needs to be done by a DVM.  So there, I can't scratch my horse's itch without my DVM because that provides relief...
Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: Jenne on April 21, 2011, 07:09:24 PM
Yeah, there's another bill out there, I've not looked it up but just heard about it yesterday, that would seek to tear down the hard work my husband and his clinics have been doing in putting pediatric clinics in schools.  CA legislation is all kinds of fucked up right now.  I forsee a LOT of fucking lawsuits down the pike.

And that's just what we DON'T need in our already-needing-liquid-plumber of a legal system in this state:  MORE GODDAMNED LAWSUITS--just because our legislature is full of assholes.

HEY CALIFORNIA, QUIT FUCKING VOTING FOR ASSHOLES!
Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: Dysnomia on April 21, 2011, 07:24:47 PM
THIS


I have NO idea what I am going to do if this passes because my career will be over and I will have wasted all this time when I could have been pursuing something else.  The kicker is, I passed up college because I prefer to learn on my own, and every time I take a class I start out great then everything falls apart.  Not that I could get into a college anywhere with the grades I got in high school because I didn't give a shit about doing any of the work.  Aced all of the tests, but never did any homework because I was busy working through highschool to pay for my horses, and didn't give a shit.   :|  But now I have finally found something I am good at, and enjoy enough to really work at and it's about to get flushed down the toilet.

Maybe I could look into farrier school if this passes.  We always need more of those, but I could say goodbye to my back ever working properly again. 

OR I could live the american dream and be someones goddamned trophy wife.  YIPPEE!   :| :| :|
Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on April 21, 2011, 07:29:23 PM
I'm confused, I thought you were working on your trainer's license/certificate. 
Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: Dysnomia on April 21, 2011, 08:00:50 PM
I am a certified Equine Body worker.  Which is like a sports massage therapist for horses.  My career is just starting, but I have been wanting to go back and get additional certifications, even though most people stop at EBW.  However there are EBW2 classes, which require a few courses, all with externships, and then there are Master EBW courses, and there are less than 20 in the world. When I was in my class IIRC our instructor said there were around 14. 
Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: LMNO on April 21, 2011, 08:02:49 PM
Take the classes, move out of CA -- or if necessary, the US.
Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on April 21, 2011, 08:04:02 PM
Quote from: Dysnomia on April 21, 2011, 08:00:50 PM
I am a certified Equine Body worker.  Which is like a sports massage therapist for horses.  My career is just starting, but I have been wanting to go back and get additional certifications, even though most people stop at EBW.  However there are EBW2 classes, which require a few courses, all with externships, and then there are Master EBW courses, and there are less than 20 in the world. When I was in my class IIRC our instructor said there were around 14. 

Quote from: LMNO, PhD on April 21, 2011, 08:02:49 PM
Take the classes, move out of CA -- or if necessary, the US.

Yeah this was my thought, either Kentucky, Virginia or maybe Northern Florida.
Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: Don Coyote on April 21, 2011, 08:11:58 PM
Wow, fuck CA. I hope it doesn't get passed.



Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: Jenne on April 21, 2011, 08:12:16 PM
...you never know, those states might have even harsher/more restrictive laws.

Usually, certification in CA for just about any fucking thing can get you any fucking where, however.  But that's a generalization I'm making based on JD and MD licensing/degrees.
Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: Jenne on April 21, 2011, 08:13:16 PM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on April 21, 2011, 08:11:58 PM
Wow, fuck CA. I hope it doesn't get passed.





We have quite a lot to answer for, Coyote.  Eighth largest economy in the world notwitstanding, this place is just hell in a handbasket incarnate... /pessimistic today
Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: Don Coyote on April 21, 2011, 08:17:14 PM
Quote from: Jenne on April 21, 2011, 08:13:16 PM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on April 21, 2011, 08:11:58 PM
Wow, fuck CA. I hope it doesn't get passed.





We have quite a lot to answer for, Coyote.  Eighth largest economy in the world notwitstanding, this place is just hell in a handbasket incarnate... /pessimistic today

CA seems hellbent on stacking more shit up to encourage me to not back. :|

FUCKING MURRKA AND KALIFORNIA!!!!!!:crankey:
Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 21, 2011, 08:38:04 PM
California is a lost cause. I hope it sinks into the Pacific sooner rather than later (while Jenne and Lizzay are on vacation somewhere else) so those nice folks in Nevada and Arizona can have a chance to become civilized coastal people.
Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: Mangrove on April 21, 2011, 08:41:37 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on April 21, 2011, 08:02:49 PM
Take the classes, move out of CA -- or if necessary, the US.


Agreed.

While I don't do bodywork for (non-human) animals, I do think there's a definite need for it. I know 'horse' people who always tell me how great it is that they can get bodywork. Take classes, find other states with horses in need and less legislative BS.

Stay in the game and remind yourself that the skills you've learned to date are useful and worthy of your time/effort.
Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: Luna on April 21, 2011, 08:44:11 PM
Call newspapers.  Spread the word that the legislature is attempting to unemploy a segment of the population...
Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: Mangrove on April 21, 2011, 08:57:19 PM
Do Equine Body Workers have some type of professional body/advocacy group?
Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: Dysnomia on April 21, 2011, 09:00:36 PM
They have been trying to do this for years apparently.  It always fails, but they keep trying.  I really hope it doesn't pass.  But I have a plan b now.  I've been looking into farrier schools all morning and will pursue that if this does pass, or if my career never takes off--which is possible because CA is bankrupt, and farriers are in more demand/need than body workers.  

I'm not really in a position to where I am able to GTFO of CA.  I'm sure I will at some point, but right now it's not realistic because I have no money to move, horses I'd have to move, friends here that I really care about (read real friends not drama friends), and basically my whole life is here for how.  But in a few years, who knows?
Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: Adios on April 21, 2011, 09:14:22 PM
Quote from: Dysnomia on April 21, 2011, 09:00:36 PM
They have been trying to do this for years apparently.  It always fails, but they keep trying.  I really hope it doesn't pass.  But I have a plan b now.  I've been looking into farrier schools all morning and will pursue that if this does pass, or if my career never takes off--which is possible because CA is bankrupt, and farriers are in more demand/need than body workers.  

I'm not really in a position to where I am able to GTFO of CA.  I'm sure I will at some point, but right now it's not realistic because I have no money to move, horses I'd have to move, friends here that I really care about (read real friends not drama friends), and basically my whole life is here for how.  But in a few years, who knows?

Ugh. That is tough work and your risk for injury goes up drastically.
Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: Dysnomia on April 21, 2011, 09:25:53 PM
and my back is already fucked, but beggars can't be choosers.  It's either that or I can aspire to become someone's trophy wife...which while never having to work would be AWESOME it's not exactly living the dream now is it?
Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: Luna on April 21, 2011, 09:30:19 PM
Quote from: Dysnomia on April 21, 2011, 09:25:53 PM
and my back is already fucked, but beggars can't be choosers.  It's either that or I can aspire to become someone's trophy wife...which while never having to work would be AWESOME it's not exactly living the dream now is it?

Depends on the dream, I suppose.  I'd be bored stupid.

Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: Adios on April 21, 2011, 09:32:59 PM
Quote from: Dysnomia on April 21, 2011, 09:25:53 PM
and my back is already fucked, but beggars can't be choosers.  It's either that or I can aspire to become someone's trophy wife...which while never having to work would be AWESOME it's not exactly living the dream now is it?

How about training? A 60 foot round pen would be about the same cost as buying farrier tools. Besides, the law hasn't passed yet.
Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: LMNO on April 21, 2011, 11:11:03 PM
How long do the classes take? Stay in CA and get the training. When you have the knowledge (and the certificates) under your belt, you can write your own ticket, provided that the "20 in the world" status still stands.
Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: Dysnomia on April 22, 2011, 04:27:40 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on April 21, 2011, 09:32:59 PM
Quote from: Dysnomia on April 21, 2011, 09:25:53 PM
and my back is already fucked, but beggars can't be choosers.  It's either that or I can aspire to become someone's trophy wife...which while never having to work would be AWESOME it's not exactly living the dream now is it?

How about training? A 60 foot round pen would be about the same cost as buying farrier tools. Besides, the law hasn't passed yet.

I currently do not posses the capabilities of being a trainer.  Not only that, but I lack the show record, and working student resume required to be taken seriously in my sport.  Sure anyone can be a backyard yahoo, but I'm not one of those people. 

Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: wudgar on April 22, 2011, 10:48:05 AM
I knew a guy from Kentucky who was a non-veterinary equine practitioners... they gave him five years for it.
Title: Re: CA bill to ban non-veterinary equine practitioners
Post by: Adios on April 22, 2011, 03:55:41 PM
Quote from: wudgar on April 22, 2011, 10:48:05 AM
I knew a guy from Kentucky who was a non-veterinary equine practitioners... they gave him five years for it.

For doping track horses?