Who is this guy?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jrLT7H4sK60/S0dIiv91NsI/AAAAAAAAHU0/x5M3PSoh7M0/s400/GunnsGoldenRules1.jpg)
He's one of the people from Project Runway.
Based on 63 seconds of Wikipedia research:
I wonder if, since Tim Gunn is apparently a fashion critic, it's a reference to "To The Prettiest One" of the kallisti apple. Something about making high-profile women for whom fashionable dress is important get all in a tizzy over the opinions of a critic.
Cainad,
Law of Fives all the way
TIM GUNN IS AWESOME AND FABULOUS AND I LOVE HIM
That's the guy! My gf watches that on monday nights, right between america's next top model and
a kind of dating show for grown-up millionaires in puberty. Project Runway is (IMO) with a very narrow margin the most entertaining of the three.
He seems like a nice guy on the show, anyway--like there's an actual sensible person beneath the persona.
Anyway never mind that.
The question is of course, what's he doing with that golden apple??
Nothing very much, as it turns out: (http://books.google.com/books?id=VF3fYPWhRZ0C&pg=PT160&lpg=PT160&dq=tim+gunn+golden+apple&source=bl&ots=Ip1jgea029&sig=lFr5edFKvM6EydLRKT_Gflxozm4&hl=en&ei=s3K2TfatH4_ysgbDtfi_DQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBoQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false)
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1783/timgunngoldenapple.png)
Still, that's a damn shiny apple AND I WANT IT.
I guess I am having a hard time believing that he doesn't know what he's doing, given all the recent press Eris has received. He'd have to be living under a fucking rock to not know.
He's also really smart, or gives the appearance. He might not be going down the Discordian path, but he damn well knows about "Kallisti".
The man is fucking brilliant and a total asshole when necessary, too.
Canonize?
Fuck that. I nominate him to be my gay uncle.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on April 26, 2011, 04:42:08 PM
Fuck that. I nominate him to be my gay uncle.
FABULOUS.
Can you imagine how awesome I would look if I had him as a personal fashion guru?
Yes.
And now I have to go change my pance.
Tim Gunn has member like baseball bat. And he know how to swing it.
HARD.
:spittake:
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on April 26, 2011, 04:40:05 PM
He's also really smart, or gives the appearance. He might not be going down the Discordian path, but he damn well knows about "Kallisti".
Well that would make sense with wanting the golden apple. The fact that he used the reference casually in his bio doesn't mean he doesn't understand the implications.
So you think every reference to a golden apple implies something?
I think that the golden apple story so appeals to American culture in particular (Everyone's heard of Troy, even about the apple that started it all, and it has to do with someone getting what they ought to deserve) that even if they don't know the story, they know that a golden apple has some very strong appeal and connection to wealth and success, that they may just use it as a metaphor for Winning The Big One.
Quote from: Hoopla on April 26, 2011, 06:59:23 PM
So you think every reference to a golden apple implies something?
Any reference to any myth implies something. Exactly what is going to vary.
There's definitely Discordian influence on Hollywood and the media culture though, I assume partly because many of them find it a fun way to troll conspiracy theorists. I wouldn't be surprised if that is part of what Tim Gunn is doing.
Quote from: Hoopla on April 26, 2011, 06:59:23 PM
So you think every reference to a golden apple implies something?
Holding a golden apple and wearing a shit-eating grin?
Occam's Razor sort of points toward Gunn having a little giggle, if you ask me. Or an interesting method of attention-whoring aimed at a rather select audience.
Quote from: Hoopla on April 26, 2011, 06:59:23 PM
So you think every reference to a golden apple implies something?
In a way, yes. But that doesn't mean the implication is Eris, or Discord.
In the West at least, both "Apple" and "Gold" have resonant connotations, regardless of Troy. Plus, other than the Golden Delicious apple (which is actually green), there is no actual thing in nature that corresponds to the combination of those words. When used as a symbol or analogy or turn of phrase, "Golden Apple"
must mean something more than the obvious (unless you're talking about an actual sculpture or mold of gold in the shape of an apple... which in itself was most likely created as a symbol).
And, of course, he could very well be drawing it straight from the myth itself, without being aware of Discordianism at all.
Quote from: Luna on April 26, 2011, 07:31:17 PM
And, of course, he could very well be drawing it straight from the myth itself, without being aware of Discordianism at all.
This seems most likely to me.
I can't see why he would choose it, to be honest. I've seen several episodes of Project Runway, and he is not even remotely an agent of discord from what I could tell.
Quote from: Hoopla on April 26, 2011, 07:38:51 PM
Quote from: Luna on April 26, 2011, 07:31:17 PM
And, of course, he could very well be drawing it straight from the myth itself, without being aware of Discordianism at all.
This seems most likely to me.
I can't see why he would choose it, to be honest. I've seen several episodes of Project Runway, and he is not even remotely an agent of discord from what I could tell.
Quotethat even if they don't know the story, they know that a golden apple has some very strong appeal and connection to wealth and success, that they may just use it as a metaphor for Winning The Big One.
Quote from: Jenkem and Tomahawks on April 26, 2011, 07:40:54 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on April 26, 2011, 07:38:51 PM
Quote from: Luna on April 26, 2011, 07:31:17 PM
And, of course, he could very well be drawing it straight from the myth itself, without being aware of Discordianism at all.
This seems most likely to me.
I can't see why he would choose it, to be honest. I've seen several episodes of Project Runway, and he is not even remotely an agent of discord from what I could tell.
Quotethat even if they don't know the story, they know that a golden apple has some very strong appeal and connection to wealth and success, that they may just use it as a metaphor for Winning The Big One.
True, true.
Quote from: Enrico Salazar on April 26, 2011, 04:49:51 PM
Tim Gunn has member like baseball bat. And he know how to swing it.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 26, 2011, 07:12:54 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on April 26, 2011, 06:59:23 PM
So you think every reference to a golden apple implies something?
Holding a golden apple and wearing a shit-eating grin?
Occam's Razor sort of points toward Gunn having a little giggle, if you ask me. Or an interesting method of attention-whoring aimed at a rather select audience.
Yes, this.
He clearly knows what the apple references... or he wouldn't have mentioned it, in context, in his bio.