Particularly when it comes to dice. We've all heard the sayings round the table, yes? "Oh shit, it dropped on the floor, BAD LUCK, toss it!" "YOU DON'T TOUCH ANOTHER MAN'S DICE!" "Hah, remember that one guy's d20? It never rolled above a 5, and then he threw it on top of the book shelf, and three years later he went to roll it and got a 1."
I personally am dice-bit from hell, normally. I've been trying to rectify this with proper rituals to appease the Dice Gods, but the results are spotty at best. So I was wondering what do you guys do to realign your dice, without destroying any of them? I may end up doing this yet, but I'm enough of a hoarder to not want to do it, in case it might someday stop being a jerkface stupid die.
I don't care what the dice roll. Coincidentally, I tend to get good rolls when I need them and shit rolls when it doesn't matter.
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on May 07, 2011, 06:56:35 AM
I don't care what the dice roll. Coincidentally, I tend to get good rolls when I need them and shit rolls when it doesn't matter.
I have the reverse. Also you're a bastard (see bold). :argh!:
Quote from: Jenkem and Tomahawks on May 07, 2011, 06:59:21 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on May 07, 2011, 06:56:35 AM
I don't care what the dice roll. Coincidentally, I tend to get good rolls when I need them and shit rolls when it doesn't matter.
I have the reverse. Also you're a bastard (see bold). :argh!:
All is Slack. Slack is All.
Buy new dice? Or stuff them some place warm, and not too damp.
I tend to get mediocre rolls unless I happen to be pulling some audacious crazy ass vin diesel oceans 11 crap. Then I roll high for some reason.
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Quote from: Canis latrans securis on May 07, 2011, 06:56:35 AM
I don't care what the dice roll. Coincidentally, I tend to get good rolls when I need them and shit rolls when it doesn't matter.
I have the reverse. Also you're a bastard (see bold). :argh!:
All is Slack. Slack is All.
Buy new dice? Or stuff them some place warm, and not too damp.
I stick them in my bra, but like I said, the results are spotty. AND NEW DICE DOESN'T WORK! WHY NOT (rhetorical)?! :argh!:
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Quote from: Canis latrans securis on May 07, 2011, 06:56:35 AM
I don't care what the dice roll. Coincidentally, I tend to get good rolls when I need them and shit rolls when it doesn't matter.
I have the reverse. Also you're a bastard (see bold). :argh!:
All is Slack. Slack is All.
Buy new dice? Or stuff them some place warm, and not too damp.
I stick them in my bra, but like I said, the results are spotty. AND NEW DICE DOESN'T WORK! WHY NOT (rhetorical)?! :argh!:
Do fire to them.
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Quote from: Canis latrans securis on May 07, 2011, 06:56:35 AM
I don't care what the dice roll. Coincidentally, I tend to get good rolls when I need them and shit rolls when it doesn't matter.
I have the reverse. Also you're a bastard (see bold). :argh!:
All is Slack. Slack is All.
Buy new dice? Or stuff them some place warm, and not too damp.
I stick them in my bra, but like I said, the results are spotty. AND NEW DICE DOESN'T WORK! WHY NOT (rhetorical)?! :argh!:
Do fire to them.
Perhaps monday. I need them for to play this weekend. I DM tomorrow! :D
You could always do a quick pagan-style cleanse to get rid of all the negative energy associated with all the bad rolls.
A quick soak in salt water and then left out in full moon or sunlight . . .
Light a sage bundle and waft the smoke in their direction . . .
Shake them in your hand and imagine all the bad vibes shucking off of them . . .
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 07, 2011, 07:22:57 AM
You could always do a quick pagan-style cleanse to get rid of all the negative energy associated with all the bad rolls.
A quick soak in salt water and then left out in full moon or sunlight . . .
Light a sage bundle and waft the smoke in their direction . . .
Shake them in your hand and imagine all the bad vibes shucking off of them . . .
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on May 07, 2011, 07:04:03 AM
Do fire to them.
Play Reign/ORE for a few sessions. When your set of three '2's beats everybody at the table and let you go first, it start to wear out our previous pattern matching programs. Similarly, play a game where the numbers are important, but more doesn't = better.
Now, as a DM you've got some awesome options. Make low rolls mean something. Avoid the *whiff* factor by having enemies actually change the current setup of the conflict, even on failed rolls. This means BONUSES to the player's follow-up actions (the usual route with enemy botches, but make it explicit with some game numbers/temp modifiers), or it could mean an enemy SPECTACULARLY succeeding only to have that success snatched away at the last moment by chance/the Environment/Eris rolling a 20 on the Happy Dice. Example: Fighting horde of Goblins, goblins all fail their attacks. Goblins swarm the lead party member and knock him/her over, all you can see are flailing green limbs and frothing spillte. *Entire party GASPS* Suddenly, the knocked down PC jumps back to his feet easily, throwing a couple of gobs off. The goblins all look at each other and *GASP*.
I would even offer the player the option of a bonus to any social/intimidation rolls towards the goblins at that point. Or, if the PC chose combat, a few "free" attacks as he/she flung goblins all over the scenery.
It's as simple as changing "He misses you." to "He misses you AND his axe gets stuck in the table. Free AOO (or whatever your system has, or a simple +1 to attack or -1 to NPCs defense or something)."
The flip side of this, of course, is that you're allowed to do the same when PCs botch (or you could encourage them to narrate their own hilarious failures, but not a lot of people are comfortable doing this right off the bat).
Oh, and and telling your Dice to behave like ACTUAL RANDOM NUMBER GENERATORS OR THEY'LL BE TALKING TO BIG MAMA UPSTAIRS is always good to.
If you want to go with the Sage and Candles while you lay the mob-style shamanism down, it's your call.
(As a practicing Erisian Minister, I find threatening inanimate objects and abstract entities with bringing them to HER attention if they misbehave to work quite well. Bonus of having a functional Pineal Gland, Mr "i'm-just-an-anthropomorphized-meme-collective".)
:lulz: I'll probably do a pep talk, followed by threats during a smoke break if they don't behave.
We have crit and fumble decks, so we don't have to actually narrate the pain. They also have some SICK fumbles and crits. :fap:
The best way, I believe, is to apply the Law of Fives in your favour.
Change your focus. Draw attention to the good rolls, pause for a bit, savour those moments. And just neutrally deal with, quickly handle and accept the bad ones, then quickly move on with the rest of the game. And even disregarding the Law of Fives, changing up the time spent with good rolls versus bad rolls alone will change your game. After all, during your gaming hours you're now literally spending more time enjoying good rolls than bad rolls. Even if the amounts of them didn't change.
In my old gaming group, one guy was always doing the massive damage and seemingly rolling higher when it really counted. Another guy was always shitty on his luck, failing in ways that would often disable him early on in combat.
Even though dice are supposed to be perfect uniform random number generators, the effect was real. They, as well as the rest of the group, experienced a game in which one guy "always" had great luck, and another guy "always" had bad luck.
Now the only rational explanation I can give for this phenomenon is this. The "great luck guy" is a really outgoing social guy who enjoyed exclaiming his successes, cheering on himself and his dice (in a fun way), while quickly moving past fumbles and bad dice rolls. Actually, now that I remember, he could be kind of childish about it, he really didn't like to lose, he'd get a bit annoyed about it sometimes, and this might have subconsciously caused the entire group to not dwell too long on his bad rolls, just apply the game mechanics and move on.
The other guy, who's also a really great guy, my best friend actually, he's very rational, atheist, doesn't believe in superstition, is a physicist that knows how dice work, damnit. So he didn't particularly spend more time on one result or the other. But he also doesn't really deal well with failure, especially when it's caused by that stupid randomness, which he doesn't have any control over. But his reaction to failure was projected inwards, he'd curse, and sulk, and get anxious which would cause him to make bad decisions the next round, which would infuriate him even more because it was a failure he did have control over, and then the bad decision would cause another dice roll, he'd roll a great score but he'd grumble it off because he had really failed already, he just got off lucky / alternatively he'd roll a bad score and his mood would sink even further. <-- as you can see, that's a lose/lose scenario. This also had an effect on the group, see we didn't want our friend and partymember to fail, but it seemed like he did all the time, so maybe he shouldn't take his risks that way, or something (not really a rational reasoning), and the seemingly constant failure annoyed us, which in turn made him more anxious.
Okay I probably exaggerated the above story somewhat, our gameplay wasn't that skewed, but you get the general idea.
So, focus and cheer on the good rolls, and quickly handle the bad rolls then move on.
And remember to fake it till you make it. If you think it's not working, immediately dump that line of thought and cheering the good rolls and not paying too much attention and game-time to the bad results. Make sure your cheering and positive attitude are infectious, so the group will pick it up, too. After all, they also want their party member to succeed. OK, maybe they also want to laugh at fumbling characters, that's fair, that's in the game too. But make them want to cheer your successes more.
Never, ever say, "how bad could it be?" or "what could possibly happen" while rolling. EVAR. My gnome has not recovered.
I find threatening the dice useful. In your case... tell them that if they don't straighten up, you'll ask TGRR to do something Horrible to them. :wink:
Show your dice that picture of the plastic doll in the "Tools for Tools" thread ...
Quote from: Jenkem and Tomahawks on May 07, 2011, 06:54:03 AM
"YOU DON'T TOUCH ANOTHER MAN'S DICE!"
I was fired from the gaming industry, had my "herald" DM tournament credentials yanked, and was banned from Origins conventions (except as a regular convention-goer) because my editor kept touching my dice, back in the 90s.
I was told I overreacted, but the fuck? HE WAS FUCKING WITH MY DICE.
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Quote from: Jenkem and Tomahawks on May 07, 2011, 06:54:03 AM
"YOU DON'T TOUCH ANOTHER MAN'S DICE!"
I was fired from the gaming industry, had my "herald" DM tournament credentials yanked, and was banned from Origins conventions (except as a regular convention-goer) because my editor kept touching my dice, back in the 90s.
I was told I overreacted, but the fuck? HE WAS FUCKING WITH MY DICE.
Did you crucify him or boil him with lead?
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on May 08, 2011, 05:42:53 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 08, 2011, 05:36:21 AM
Quote from: Jenkem and Tomahawks on May 07, 2011, 06:54:03 AM
"YOU DON'T TOUCH ANOTHER MAN'S DICE!"
I was fired from the gaming industry, had my "herald" DM tournament credentials yanked, and was banned from Origins conventions (except as a regular convention-goer) because my editor kept touching my dice, back in the 90s.
I was told I overreacted, but the fuck? HE WAS FUCKING WITH MY DICE.
Did you crucify him or boil him with lead?
No, I slapped the dog shit out of him. It was one of those slaps that sounds like a gun going off, right? Everything around us stops, and everyone is just staring at my hand print on his face.
He sat there for a few seconds, then said, "You're fired yesterday."
:lulz:
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Quote from: Jenkem and Tomahawks on May 07, 2011, 06:54:03 AM
"YOU DON'T TOUCH ANOTHER MAN'S DICE!"
I was fired from the gaming industry, had my "herald" DM tournament credentials yanked, and was banned from Origins conventions (except as a regular convention-goer) because my editor kept touching my dice, back in the 90s.
I was told I overreacted, but the fuck? HE WAS FUCKING WITH MY DICE.
Did you crucify him or boil him with lead?
No, I slapped the dog shit out of him. It was one of those slaps that sounds like a gun going off, right? Everything around us stops, and everyone is just staring at my hand print on his face.
He sat there for a few seconds, then said, "You're fired yesterday."
You didn't overreact. He did. He should have thanked you for not flaying him with his own fingernails on the spot.
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 08, 2011, 05:36:21 AM
Quote from: Jenkem and Tomahawks on May 07, 2011, 06:54:03 AM
"YOU DON'T TOUCH ANOTHER MAN'S DICE!"
I was fired from the gaming industry, had my "herald" DM tournament credentials yanked, and was banned from Origins conventions (except as a regular convention-goer) because my editor kept touching my dice, back in the 90s.
I was told I overreacted, but the fuck? HE WAS FUCKING WITH MY DICE.
Did you crucify him or boil him with lead?
No, I slapped the dog shit out of him. It was one of those slaps that sounds like a gun going off, right? Everything around us stops, and everyone is just staring at my hand print on his face.
He sat there for a few seconds, then said, "You're fired yesterday."
You didn't overreact. He did. He should have thanked you for not flaying him with his own fingernails on the spot.
Like I said, he touched my dice. I even warned him TWICE.
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 08, 2011, 05:36:21 AM
Quote from: Jenkem and Tomahawks on May 07, 2011, 06:54:03 AM
"YOU DON'T TOUCH ANOTHER MAN'S DICE!"
I was fired from the gaming industry, had my "herald" DM tournament credentials yanked, and was banned from Origins conventions (except as a regular convention-goer) because my editor kept touching my dice, back in the 90s.
I was told I overreacted, but the fuck? HE WAS FUCKING WITH MY DICE.
Did you crucify him or boil him with lead?
No, I slapped the dog shit out of him. It was one of those slaps that sounds like a gun going off, right? Everything around us stops, and everyone is just staring at my hand print on his face.
He sat there for a few seconds, then said, "You're fired yesterday."
You didn't overreact. He did. He should have thanked you for not flaying him with his own fingernails on the spot.
Like I said, he touched my dice. I even warned him TWICE.
Wow, just wow.
LOL Everyone knows not to touch my dice, especially my husband. He's one of those who can't roll good when it matters to save his life. It's hilarious to watch. They literally do the opposite of whatever he wants them to. He uses reverse psychology on his dice and it works...
Personally I separate my dice in a sort of random, but very specific way. I generally have decent rolls on everything except character creation.
Amusing dice teaching events that I am aware of:
One person set his dice up in a circle around the die that had most recently insulted him and took a hammer to it telling them that if they didn't behave they'd get the same treatment. I think he left the shards in his dice bag as a reminder.
Another person set his new dice up in a circle, put his old misbehaving ones in the center and melted them, literally melted them, as an example.
Yet another person bit an offending die and threw it away. I rescued it and it's mirror image (before it suffered the same fate) and they both roll beautifully for me, possibly due to gratitude at being rescued.
One of the guys I gamed with many years ago told a misbehaving d20 that if it rolled one more "1" it would get a guilded tour of his colon.
I never did ask what happened after it DID roll that 1...
Quote from: Luna on May 08, 2011, 12:33:30 PM
One of the guys I gamed with many years ago told a misbehaving d20 that if it rolled one more "1" it would get a guilded tour of his colon.
I never did ask what happened after it DID roll that 1...
I have an anvil and a blacksmith's hammer for recalcitrant dice.
My dice have the elder sign as the high number and they're the first set that generally rolls well for me. Though I believe they are slowly making the DM go mad... It's not my fault that he gave me a d12 scythe.
I have a set that was banned from a table... rolled 2 consecutive 20's as the first two shots against the DM's precious big bad in the final confrontation. He used crit tables, I rolled "beheaded."
I stilll have that whole set.
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 08, 2011, 06:08:59 PM
My dice have the elder sign as the high number and they're the first set that generally rolls well for me. Though I believe they are slowly making the DM go mad... It's not my fault that he gave me a d12 scythe.
Oh, you have one of those non-book DMs.
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Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 08, 2011, 06:08:59 PM
My dice have the elder sign as the high number and they're the first set that generally rolls well for me. Though I believe they are slowly making the DM go mad... It's not my fault that he gave me a d12 scythe.
Oh, you have one of those non-book DMs.
Poor Luna. :(
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Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 08, 2011, 06:08:59 PM
My dice have the elder sign as the high number and they're the first set that generally rolls well for me. Though I believe they are slowly making the DM go mad... It's not my fault that he gave me a d12 scythe.
Oh, you have one of those non-book DMs.
Poor Luna. :(
Luna?
Banned dice that know when to drop nat 20's is a tragic thing.
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Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 08, 2011, 06:08:59 PM
My dice have the elder sign as the high number and they're the first set that generally rolls well for me. Though I believe they are slowly making the DM go mad... It's not my fault that he gave me a d12 scythe.
Oh, you have one of those non-book DMs.
Poor Luna. :(
Luna?
I mean Rat. >_<
Quote from: Luna on May 09, 2011, 02:00:15 AM
Banned dice that know when to drop nat 20's is a tragic thing.
No, what should happen to a DM that bans non-shaved dice is a tragic thing.
Fucking wussies. Let the dice fall how they may, and fucking DEAL WITH IT.
That's the problem with DMs, these days. They cry too fucking much. In MY day, you took your ownage and LEARNED FROM IT. It's what's made me the horrible fucking table Nazi that I am today.
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Quote from: Luna on May 09, 2011, 02:00:15 AM
Banned dice that know when to drop nat 20's is a tragic thing.
No, what should happen to a DM that bans non-shaved dice is a tragic thing.
Fucking wussies. Let the dice fall how they may, and fucking DEAL WITH IT.
That's the problem with DMs, these days. They cry too fucking much. In MY day, you took your ownage and LEARNED FROM IT. It's what's made me the horrible fucking table Nazi that I am today.
My thought was that it was a sign of a DM who was too invested in "winning."
Everybody else at the table thought it was awesome, he just got his panties in a bunch over it.
All this D&D talk lately really really wants me to set up a playing group again. (Filing that for stuff to do after I get back from the USA.)
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Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 08, 2011, 06:08:59 PM
My dice have the elder sign as the high number and they're the first set that generally rolls well for me. Though I believe they are slowly making the DM go mad... It's not my fault that he gave me a d12 scythe.
Oh, you have one of those non-book DMs.
Nope in 3.5 a scythe is d12 and can also be used as a d6/d6 staff. As my character is an undead hunter (Skullclan Hunter PRC) and a cleric to the god 'Themet' (the God of Peace/Death in the world we're playing in), I use my Gods favored weapon which is also my holy symbol. Its also good for bludgeoning or slashing depending on the undead I'm dealing with.
Quote from: Triple Zero on May 09, 2011, 06:36:59 PM
All this D&D talk lately really really wants me to set up a playing group again. (Filing that for stuff to do after I get back from the USA.)
Yeah, Richter's got me thinking about starting up a campaign, if I can find a free night.
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Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 08, 2011, 06:08:59 PM
My dice have the elder sign as the high number and they're the first set that generally rolls well for me. Though I believe they are slowly making the DM go mad... It's not my fault that he gave me a d12 scythe.
Oh, you have one of those non-book DMs.
Nope in 3.5 a scythe is d12 and can also be used as a d6/d6 staff. As my character is an undead hunter (Skullclan Hunter PRC) and a cleric to the god 'Themet' (the God of Peace/Death in the world we're playing in), I use my Gods favored weapon which is also my holy symbol. Its also good for bludgeoning or slashing depending on the undead I'm dealing with.
Oh. In Pathfinder, it's a 2d4 martial weapon that crits x4 on a 20.
And what is this bullshit about being able to use it as a staff? It's got a great whacking iron blade on one end.
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Quote from: Triple Zero on May 09, 2011, 06:36:59 PM
All this D&D talk lately really really wants me to set up a playing group again. (Filing that for stuff to do after I get back from the USA.)
Yeah, Richter's got me thinking about starting up a campaign, if I can find a free night.
I'm working a homebrew campaign world (same world as Pathfinder, but off the East end of the map a bit). I had forgotten how much fun building an entire setting is, and I think the players will like it, too.
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Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 08, 2011, 06:08:59 PM
My dice have the elder sign as the high number and they're the first set that generally rolls well for me. Though I believe they are slowly making the DM go mad... It's not my fault that he gave me a d12 scythe.
Oh, you have one of those non-book DMs.
Nope in 3.5 a scythe is d12 and can also be used as a d6/d6 staff. As my character is an undead hunter (Skullclan Hunter PRC) and a cleric to the god 'Themet' (the God of Peace/Death in the world we're playing in), I use my Gods favored weapon which is also my holy symbol. Its also good for bludgeoning or slashing depending on the undead I'm dealing with.
Oh. In Pathfinder, it's a 2d4 martial weapon that crits x4 on a 20.
And what is this bullshit about being able to use it as a staff? It's got a great whacking iron blade on one end.
Hrm. Flip it around (blade backward), and you've got a staff with a bigass chunk of steel tied to it for extra oomph. It'd be slower, but more mass... In theory, I suppose, it might work.
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Quote from: Triple Zero on May 09, 2011, 06:36:59 PM
All this D&D talk lately really really wants me to set up a playing group again. (Filing that for stuff to do after I get back from the USA.)
Yeah, Richter's got me thinking about starting up a campaign, if I can find a free night.
I'm working a homebrew campaign world (same world as Pathfinder, but off the East end of the map a bit). I had forgotten how much fun building an entire setting is, and I think the players will like it, too.
Looking at a whole new system... Eyeballing the Harry Dresden RPG.
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Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 08, 2011, 06:08:59 PM
My dice have the elder sign as the high number and they're the first set that generally rolls well for me. Though I believe they are slowly making the DM go mad... It's not my fault that he gave me a d12 scythe.
Oh, you have one of those non-book DMs.
Nope in 3.5 a scythe is d12 and can also be used as a d6/d6 staff. As my character is an undead hunter (Skullclan Hunter PRC) and a cleric to the god 'Themet' (the God of Peace/Death in the world we're playing in), I use my Gods favored weapon which is also my holy symbol. Its also good for bludgeoning or slashing depending on the undead I'm dealing with.
Oh. In Pathfinder, it's a 2d4 martial weapon that crits x4 on a 20.
And what is this bullshit about being able to use it as a staff? It's got a great whacking iron blade on one end.
Hrm. Flip it around (blade backward), and you've got a staff with a bigass chunk of steel tied to it for extra oomph. It'd be slower, but more mass... In theory, I suppose, it might work.
You know better than that.
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Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 08, 2011, 06:08:59 PM
My dice have the elder sign as the high number and they're the first set that generally rolls well for me. Though I believe they are slowly making the DM go mad... It's not my fault that he gave me a d12 scythe.
Oh, you have one of those non-book DMs.
Nope in 3.5 a scythe is d12 and can also be used as a d6/d6 staff. As my character is an undead hunter (Skullclan Hunter PRC) and a cleric to the god 'Themet' (the God of Peace/Death in the world we're playing in), I use my Gods favored weapon which is also my holy symbol. Its also good for bludgeoning or slashing depending on the undead I'm dealing with.
Oh. In Pathfinder, it's a 2d4 martial weapon that crits x4 on a 20.
And what is this bullshit about being able to use it as a staff? It's got a great whacking iron blade on one end.
Hrm. Flip it around (blade backward), and you've got a staff with a bigass chunk of steel tied to it for extra oomph. It'd be slower, but more mass... In theory, I suppose, it might work.
You know better than that.
Yeah, it'd be a stone bitch to use, the balance would be all fucked up.
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Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 08, 2011, 06:08:59 PM
My dice have the elder sign as the high number and they're the first set that generally rolls well for me. Though I believe they are slowly making the DM go mad... It's not my fault that he gave me a d12 scythe.
Oh, you have one of those non-book DMs.
Nope in 3.5 a scythe is d12 and can also be used as a d6/d6 staff. As my character is an undead hunter (Skullclan Hunter PRC) and a cleric to the god 'Themet' (the God of Peace/Death in the world we're playing in), I use my Gods favored weapon which is also my holy symbol. Its also good for bludgeoning or slashing depending on the undead I'm dealing with.
Oh. In Pathfinder, it's a 2d4 martial weapon that crits x4 on a 20.
And what is this bullshit about being able to use it as a staff? It's got a great whacking iron blade on one end.
Hrm. Flip it around (blade backward), and you've got a staff with a bigass chunk of steel tied to it for extra oomph. It'd be slower, but more mass... In theory, I suppose, it might work.
You know better than that.
Yeah, it'd be a stone bitch to use, the balance would be all fucked up.
Yep. I am going to look this shit up when I get home (I still have the 3.5 core books), because that's just stupid.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2011, 06:58:45 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 09, 2011, 06:43:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 08, 2011, 06:24:53 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 08, 2011, 06:08:59 PM
My dice have the elder sign as the high number and they're the first set that generally rolls well for me. Though I believe they are slowly making the DM go mad... It's not my fault that he gave me a d12 scythe.
Oh, you have one of those non-book DMs.
Nope in 3.5 a scythe is d12 and can also be used as a d6/d6 staff. As my character is an undead hunter (Skullclan Hunter PRC) and a cleric to the god 'Themet' (the God of Peace/Death in the world we're playing in), I use my Gods favored weapon which is also my holy symbol. Its also good for bludgeoning or slashing depending on the undead I'm dealing with.
Oh. In Pathfinder, it's a 2d4 martial weapon that crits x4 on a 20.
And what is this bullshit about being able to use it as a staff? It's got a great whacking iron blade on one end.
Heh, yeah I know... but it's D&D 3.5... they can't make good jump mechanics, let alone realistic weapon mechanics. :)
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2011, 07:14:13 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 09, 2011, 07:13:06 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2011, 07:11:53 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 09, 2011, 07:00:51 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2011, 06:58:45 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 09, 2011, 06:43:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 08, 2011, 06:24:53 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 08, 2011, 06:08:59 PM
My dice have the elder sign as the high number and they're the first set that generally rolls well for me. Though I believe they are slowly making the DM go mad... It's not my fault that he gave me a d12 scythe.
Oh, you have one of those non-book DMs.
Nope in 3.5 a scythe is d12 and can also be used as a d6/d6 staff. As my character is an undead hunter (Skullclan Hunter PRC) and a cleric to the god 'Themet' (the God of Peace/Death in the world we're playing in), I use my Gods favored weapon which is also my holy symbol. Its also good for bludgeoning or slashing depending on the undead I'm dealing with.
Oh. In Pathfinder, it's a 2d4 martial weapon that crits x4 on a 20.
And what is this bullshit about being able to use it as a staff? It's got a great whacking iron blade on one end.
Hrm. Flip it around (blade backward), and you've got a staff with a bigass chunk of steel tied to it for extra oomph. It'd be slower, but more mass... In theory, I suppose, it might work.
You know better than that.
Yeah, it'd be a stone bitch to use, the balance would be all fucked up.
Yep. I am going to look this shit up when I get home (I still have the 3.5 core books), because that's just stupid.
The 'use as quarterstaff' is in the detail text... but I just looked at the dmg and it agrees with you... so I dunno what he was smoking when he told me d12. Well I know what he was smoking, but I'll have to correct him tomorrow night.
Quote from: Luna on May 09, 2011, 06:02:36 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2011, 05:08:50 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 09, 2011, 02:00:15 AM
Banned dice that know when to drop nat 20's is a tragic thing.
No, what should happen to a DM that bans non-shaved dice is a tragic thing.
Fucking wussies. Let the dice fall how they may, and fucking DEAL WITH IT.
That's the problem with DMs, these days. They cry too fucking much. In MY day, you took your ownage and LEARNED FROM IT. It's what's made me the horrible fucking table Nazi that I am today.
My thought was that it was a sign of a DM who was too invested in "winning."
Everybody else at the table thought it was awesome, he just got his panties in a bunch over it.
This means you needed a new DM.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2011, 08:15:28 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 09, 2011, 06:02:36 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2011, 05:08:50 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 09, 2011, 02:00:15 AM
Banned dice that know when to drop nat 20's is a tragic thing.
No, what should happen to a DM that bans non-shaved dice is a tragic thing.
Fucking wussies. Let the dice fall how they may, and fucking DEAL WITH IT.
That's the problem with DMs, these days. They cry too fucking much. In MY day, you took your ownage and LEARNED FROM IT. It's what's made me the horrible fucking table Nazi that I am today.
My thought was that it was a sign of a DM who was too invested in "winning."
Everybody else at the table thought it was awesome, he just got his panties in a bunch over it.
This means you needed a new DM.
Yep. Was the end of his campaign, anyway, and somebody else took over after that. (We rotated DM's a lot, we were fortunate to have multiple people who LIKED to do it... and who could (mostly) sit back and let somebody else run it without chipping in advice.)
Quote from: Luna on May 09, 2011, 08:20:27 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2011, 08:15:28 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 09, 2011, 06:02:36 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2011, 05:08:50 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 09, 2011, 02:00:15 AM
Banned dice that know when to drop nat 20's is a tragic thing.
No, what should happen to a DM that bans non-shaved dice is a tragic thing.
Fucking wussies. Let the dice fall how they may, and fucking DEAL WITH IT.
That's the problem with DMs, these days. They cry too fucking much. In MY day, you took your ownage and LEARNED FROM IT. It's what's made me the horrible fucking table Nazi that I am today.
My thought was that it was a sign of a DM who was too invested in "winning."
Everybody else at the table thought it was awesome, he just got his panties in a bunch over it.
This means you needed a new DM.
Yep. Was the end of his campaign, anyway, and somebody else took over after that. (We rotated DM's a lot, we were fortunate to have multiple people who LIKED to do it... and who could (mostly) sit back and let somebody else run it without chipping in advice.)
Common problem amohg DMs sitting in a player's chair. I have to struggle constantly to STFU and not second-guess Freeky. Mostly with success.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2011, 08:51:39 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 09, 2011, 08:20:27 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2011, 08:15:28 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 09, 2011, 06:02:36 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2011, 05:08:50 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 09, 2011, 02:00:15 AM
Banned dice that know when to drop nat 20's is a tragic thing.
No, what should happen to a DM that bans non-shaved dice is a tragic thing.
Fucking wussies. Let the dice fall how they may, and fucking DEAL WITH IT.
That's the problem with DMs, these days. They cry too fucking much. In MY day, you took your ownage and LEARNED FROM IT. It's what's made me the horrible fucking table Nazi that I am today.
My thought was that it was a sign of a DM who was too invested in "winning."
Everybody else at the table thought it was awesome, he just got his panties in a bunch over it.
This means you needed a new DM.
Yep. Was the end of his campaign, anyway, and somebody else took over after that. (We rotated DM's a lot, we were fortunate to have multiple people who LIKED to do it... and who could (mostly) sit back and let somebody else run it without chipping in advice.)
Common problem amohg DMs sitting in a player's chair. I have to struggle constantly to STFU and not second-guess Freeky. Mostly with success.
I mostly manage to keep my yap shut while Richter's running his game, though I field occasional questions from the other players on game mechanics. (Which amuses the hell out of me, since I've never played Pathfinder before, I just wing it.)
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2011, 08:59:40 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 09, 2011, 08:55:14 PM
I just wing it.
:crankey:
Mostly, if I haven't looked at the answer, I come up with, "Well, D&D had it THIS fairly consistently, but look it up."
Also, I'm pretty good at finding shit quickly, if it comes to it.