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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: AFK on May 09, 2011, 08:51:32 PM

Title: The New American Dream
Post by: AFK on May 09, 2011, 08:51:32 PM
The American Dream used to be having a house with a white-picket fence, two and a half kids, and a nice American made motor vehicle.

Now, The New American Dream for the kiddos is getting knocked up and getting a reality show. 

And they have the ultimate role model to lead them to the promise-land of inFamy and, well, probably not fortune:

Bristol Palin (http://theclicker.today.com/_news/2011/05/09/6612146-bristol-palin-to-live-with-kyle-massey-for-reality-show)

That's right kids.  Follow her and you'll learn the fine art of becoming famous and getting on TeeVee for being famous for teenage pregnancy.  Education?  Fuck No!  Just do something outrageous or stupid and reach for the, uh, stars? 

I dunno.  Bleh. 
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2011, 08:53:07 PM
I fail to see a problem, here.  They're just selling what the market will pay for.

The fact that people watch this shit makes me want to punt a few toddlers back into the womb, though.
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: Luna on May 09, 2011, 08:55:52 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2011, 08:53:07 PM
I fail to see a problem, here.  They're just selling what the market will pay for.

The fact that people watch this shit makes me want to punt a few toddlers back into the womb, though.

Truth.
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: Elder Iptuous on May 09, 2011, 09:55:41 PM
If The Suit came up to just about anyone, and said, "hey. just do whatever you do (maybe with this odd sitcom twist), while we film you and broadcast it, and we'll pay you large sums of money."...

well, i would probably sell my privacy for a short period of time for a large sum of money.  it would require some modification to behaviour, yes, but, why not?

like Roger said, it's the people that will watch and shamelessly commune with their friends and coworkers about it that are really the scandal.  the palin girl is selling her privacy for a little while, the show is selling advertising space, the advertisers are selling some mcgillicutty, but the viewer.... the viewer is selling their head.  and for what?
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2011, 09:59:31 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 09, 2011, 09:55:41 PM
If The Suit came up to just about anyone, and said, "hey. just do whatever you do (maybe with this odd sitcom twist), while we film you and broadcast it, and we'll pay you large sums of money."...

well, i would probably sell my privacy for a short period of time for a large sum of money.  it would require some modification to behaviour, yes, but, why not?

like Roger said, it's the people that will watch and shamelessly commune with their friends and coworkers about it that are really the scandal.  the palin girl is selling her privacy for a little while, the show is selling advertising space, the advertisers are selling some mcgillicutty, but the viewer.... the viewer is selling their head.  and for what?

Something to keep them occupied until they die.
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: Elder Iptuous on May 09, 2011, 10:04:51 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2011, 09:59:31 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 09, 2011, 09:55:41 PM
If The Suit came up to just about anyone, and said, "hey. just do whatever you do (maybe with this odd sitcom twist), while we film you and broadcast it, and we'll pay you large sums of money."...

well, i would probably sell my privacy for a short period of time for a large sum of money.  it would require some modification to behaviour, yes, but, why not?

like Roger said, it's the people that will watch and shamelessly commune with their friends and coworkers about it that are really the scandal.  the palin girl is selling her privacy for a little while, the show is selling advertising space, the advertisers are selling some mcgillicutty, but the viewer.... the viewer is selling their head.  and for what?

Something to keep them occupied until they die.

gah! it was a rhetorical question meant to imply the sting, not actually invoke it...
putting it out there in so many words is too bright, and exposes that *I* am in the same occupation.
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 10, 2011, 03:50:20 AM
To make this show perfect, the big reveal should be that the "charity" is Planned Parenthood.
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: PopeTom on May 10, 2011, 04:21:46 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 09, 2011, 09:55:41 PM
If The Suit came up to just about anyone, and said, "hey. just do whatever you do (maybe with this odd sitcom twist), while we film you and broadcast it, and we'll pay you large sums of money."...

well, i would probably sell my privacy for a short period of time for a large sum of money.  it would require some modification to behaviour, yes, but, why not?

like Roger said, it's the people that will watch and shamelessly commune with their friends and coworkers about it that are really the scandal.  the palin girl is selling her privacy for a little while, the show is selling advertising space, the advertisers are selling some mcgillicutty, but the viewer.... the viewer is selling their head.  and for what?

Is it really selling your privacy for a little while though?

Celebrity seems like it might be a hard thing to shake.
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 10, 2011, 08:07:04 AM
Quote from: PopeTom on May 10, 2011, 04:21:46 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 09, 2011, 09:55:41 PM
If The Suit came up to just about anyone, and said, "hey. just do whatever you do (maybe with this odd sitcom twist), while we film you and broadcast it, and we'll pay you large sums of money."...

well, i would probably sell my privacy for a short period of time for a large sum of money.  it would require some modification to behaviour, yes, but, why not?

like Roger said, it's the people that will watch and shamelessly commune with their friends and coworkers about it that are really the scandal.  the palin girl is selling her privacy for a little while, the show is selling advertising space, the advertisers are selling some mcgillicutty, but the viewer.... the viewer is selling their head.  and for what?

Is it really selling your privacy for a little while though?

Celebrity seems like it might be a hard thing to shake.
Certain kids are.
You can be a tolerably well-known artist or musician and still go to the store.
I saw Octomom on a magazine cover not long ago, though. T :horrormirth:hat motherfucker's gonna be with us forever.
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: Triple Zero on May 10, 2011, 12:31:08 PM
> Celebrity seems like it might be a hard thing to shake.

Used to be, IMO.

There's only so many 15 minutes of fame the public can remember. Celebrities nowadays have to work hard to stay in the spotlights.
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: AFK on May 10, 2011, 01:14:59 PM
I dunno, I think between the internet and reality TV, it's easier than it was back in the 80s and before.  Now, between VH1, MTV, ABC, Fox, NBC, the has-beens have a reasonable shot at getting reanimated for some goofy reality show or competition show.  Back in the 80s, the only way to get back into the spotlight was to kill someone and/or go on a drug binge. 
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: Triple Zero on May 10, 2011, 01:35:50 PM
Okay, my point was it doesn't happen that easily by accident, or against your wishes.

(unless you do something really stupid, like drug binge, or killing people or I dunno)
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on May 10, 2011, 02:20:57 PM
Roger, could you imagine our mothers on a "Real Housewives" show? 

My momma woulda snatched a bitch baldheaded first episode....   :lulz:

I actually saw part of one of those shows for the first time the other day, it was  :x
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: Suu on May 10, 2011, 02:28:16 PM
My mom would have just killed them all.
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: Luna on May 10, 2011, 02:34:20 PM
I STILL think throwing ECH in charge of a bar staffed entirely by people from this forum would make an awesome reality show. 
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: Suu on May 10, 2011, 02:36:14 PM
No.

*I* would manage the FOH, his job is the BOH. God have mercy on your fucking mortal coils.
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: AFK on May 10, 2011, 02:54:39 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 10, 2011, 02:34:20 PM
I STILL think throwing ECH in charge of a bar staffed entirely by people from this forum would make an awesome reality show. 

That show MUST include AKK.  And Me. 
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: Suu on May 10, 2011, 02:56:24 PM
AKK is a line cook. Only so ECH can do horrible kitchen things to him.

-Suu
Has seen horrible kitchen things.
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 10, 2011, 03:22:52 PM
I can't work with the general public, so I'll run the "sales department" in the bathroom.

Richter can watch the door, so nobody walks in while the Terrible Marching Powder transactions occur.
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: hooplala on May 10, 2011, 03:31:33 PM
Can I be Harry the Hat?
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: Luna on May 10, 2011, 03:33:13 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 10, 2011, 03:31:33 PM
Can I be Harry the Hat?

Wasn't he the guy who wasn't allowed in the joint?
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: hooplala on May 10, 2011, 03:41:54 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 10, 2011, 03:33:13 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 10, 2011, 03:31:33 PM
Can I be Harry the Hat?

Wasn't he the guy who wasn't allowed in the joint?

Yeah.  The Mgt, to this day, only barely tolerates my presence. 

I PM'd him about it, but haven't heard back yet.
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: AFK on May 10, 2011, 04:22:18 PM
That would explain the dark clouds materializing. 
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: Adios on May 10, 2011, 04:36:37 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 10, 2011, 02:34:20 PM
I STILL think throwing ECH in charge of a bar staffed entirely by people from this forum would make an awesome reality show. 

Dibs on Bouncer.
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: Mangrove on May 10, 2011, 06:15:48 PM
RHWN,

A recent issue of Newsweek is carrying a 'Is Sarah Palin Over?' story which might cheer you up. (summary)

* Her 'Real Americans Slot' on FOX disappeared after one episode.
* Her appearances on FOX don't bump the ratings like they used to.
* The ratings of her stupid Alaska show dropped. No second season forthcoming.
* The whole Arizona/Giffords/Blood Libel thing damaged her currency.
* Supporting Birthers.
* Donald Trump

She's still going to make a shit ton of money from speaking engagements(!). She'll make some money from the books too, though her first big book was a bestseller only due to that classic publisher's scam: Buy back your own stock and sell the rest to the public at a 30% discount.

Palin's irrelevancy is coming, which means that of her children is close behind.(Do you remember Bristol's boyfriend? No...of course not because he's off the radar.) According to the article, Republican insiders are entirely uninterested in her running in 2012. Palin's people are like 'She might run...because she's so wacky & unpredictable...We just don't know!' but that is code for 'she has done precisely nothing towards exploring or planning a campaign'.

You're absolutely right, the American Dream 2.0 is to make bank for no good reason. In fact, ADv2.0 is to amass a fortune in way that is diametrically opposed to good reason. (Paris Hilton earning approx $5million per year for being 'herself'.)

All that has to happen is for Justin Beiber to swear on a live broadcast, get caught with a beer, or dye his hair and that will swallow up massive amounts of coverage, depriving Bristol Palin of any air time. If her new show hits TV, it'll tank in one season. For her sake, I hope she has a good accountant or financial planner, because Palin-mania is so 2008 and the moment has passed. If she has any brains at all (subject to debate) she will have stashed away a big pile to keep her in the future - or she'll end up working at Radio Shack or something.







Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: Mangrove on May 10, 2011, 06:36:56 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/theweek/20110510/cm_theweek/215112;_ylt=Aqj8nJwrGy95wJkRvu5x4PBg.3QA;_ylu=X3oDMTJzb3ZkbXA2BGFzc2V0A3RoZXdlZWsvMjAxMTA1MTAvMjE1MTEyBGNjb2RlA29mZmcxNGsEY3BvcwM3BHBvcwM3BHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcmllcwRzbGsDYnJpc3RvbHBhbGlu


This land is her land
"If Bristol Palin isn't the embodiment of the American dream, I don't know who is," says Dennis DiClaudio at Comedy Central's Indecision blog. "In what other country can an unmarried teenage mother with no discernible talent or personality work her way up from a lowly multimillion dollar job as the face of Big Abstinence to become an actual reality TV star? What a country!"
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 10, 2011, 06:40:42 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 10, 2011, 02:34:20 PM
I STILL think throwing ECH in charge of a bar staffed entirely by people from this forum would make an awesome reality show. 
YES. THIS.  :nuke:
Also, not a "nice" bar. An out-on-the-highway, sweeping-up-eyeballs bar. FTW.
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on May 10, 2011, 06:49:50 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 10, 2011, 06:40:42 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 10, 2011, 02:34:20 PM
I STILL think throwing ECH in charge of a bar staffed entirely by people from this forum would make an awesome reality show. 
YES. THIS.  :nuke:
Also, not a "nice" bar. An out-on-the-highway, sweeping-up-eyeballs bar. FTW.

I was thinking along the lines of a "Hotel California" bar.....    :evil:
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 10, 2011, 06:51:03 PM
Quote from: Khara on May 10, 2011, 06:49:50 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 10, 2011, 06:40:42 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 10, 2011, 02:34:20 PM
I STILL think throwing ECH in charge of a bar staffed entirely by people from this forum would make an awesome reality show. 
YES. THIS.  :nuke:
Also, not a "nice" bar. An out-on-the-highway, sweeping-up-eyeballs bar. FTW.

I was thinking along the lines of a "Hotel California" bar.....    :evil:

Well, the reality is, you'd have the "open bar" thread, only with added drunken stupidity.
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: AFK on May 10, 2011, 06:54:30 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on May 10, 2011, 06:15:48 PM
RHWN,

A recent issue of Newsweek is carrying a 'Is Sarah Palin Over?' story which might cheer you up. (summary)

* Her 'Real Americans Slot' on FOX disappeared after one episode.
* Her appearances on FOX don't bump the ratings like they used to.
* The ratings of her stupid Alaska show dropped. No second season forthcoming.
* The whole Arizona/Giffords/Blood Libel thing damaged her currency.
* Supporting Birthers.
* Donald Trump

She's still going to make a shit ton of money from speaking engagements(!). She'll make some money from the books too, though her first big book was a bestseller only due to that classic publisher's scam: Buy back your own stock and sell the rest to the public at a 30% discount.

Palin's irrelevancy is coming, which means that of her children is close behind.(Do you remember Bristol's boyfriend? No...of course not because he's off the radar.) According to the article, Republican insiders are entirely uninterested in her running in 2012. Palin's people are like 'She might run...because she's so wacky & unpredictable...We just don't know!' but that is code for 'she has done precisely nothing towards exploring or planning a campaign'.

You're absolutely right, the American Dream 2.0 is to make bank for no good reason. In fact, ADv2.0 is to amass a fortune in way that is diametrically opposed to good reason. (Paris Hilton earning approx $5million per year for being 'herself'.)

All that has to happen is for Justin Beiber to swear on a live broadcast, get caught with a beer, or dye his hair and that will swallow up massive amounts of coverage, depriving Bristol Palin of any air time. If her new show hits TV, it'll tank in one season. For her sake, I hope she has a good accountant or financial planner, because Palin-mania is so 2008 and the moment has passed. If she has any brains at all (subject to debate) she will have stashed away a big pile to keep her in the future - or she'll end up working at Radio Shack or something.

Well, it's hard to blame her.  She just learned by watching her Mom.  Doing something that matters, like say being a Governor, just doesn't mean anything compared to getting your mug on TV as often as possible for whatever reason.  Real jobs are for losers.  (Have someone else) write a book, mug for the cameras, .... , profit. 
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on May 10, 2011, 06:55:29 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 10, 2011, 06:51:03 PM
Quote from: Khara on May 10, 2011, 06:49:50 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 10, 2011, 06:40:42 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 10, 2011, 02:34:20 PM
I STILL think throwing ECH in charge of a bar staffed entirely by people from this forum would make an awesome reality show. 
YES. THIS.  :nuke:
Also, not a "nice" bar. An out-on-the-highway, sweeping-up-eyeballs bar. FTW.

I was thinking along the lines of a "Hotel California" bar.....    :evil:

Well, the reality is, you'd have the "open bar" thread, only with added drunken stupidity.

:| 

With ropes, handcuffs and ball gags?
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: Luna on May 10, 2011, 06:57:04 PM
Quote from: Khara on May 10, 2011, 06:55:29 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 10, 2011, 06:51:03 PM
Quote from: Khara on May 10, 2011, 06:49:50 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 10, 2011, 06:40:42 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 10, 2011, 02:34:20 PM
I STILL think throwing ECH in charge of a bar staffed entirely by people from this forum would make an awesome reality show. 
YES. THIS.  :nuke:
Also, not a "nice" bar. An out-on-the-highway, sweeping-up-eyeballs bar. FTW.

I was thinking along the lines of a "Hotel California" bar.....    :evil:

Well, the reality is, you'd have the "open bar" thread, only with added drunken stupidity.

:| 

With ropes, handcuffs and ball gags?

One would ho...  Erm...

Nevermind.   :oops:
Title: Re: The New American Dream
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 10, 2011, 06:57:17 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 10, 2011, 06:51:03 PM
Quote from: Khara on May 10, 2011, 06:49:50 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 10, 2011, 06:40:42 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 10, 2011, 02:34:20 PM
I STILL think throwing ECH in charge of a bar staffed entirely by people from this forum would make an awesome reality show. 
YES. THIS.  :nuke:
Also, not a "nice" bar. An out-on-the-highway, sweeping-up-eyeballs bar. FTW.

I was thinking along the lines of a "Hotel California" bar.....    :evil:

Well, the reality is, you'd have the "open bar" thread, only with added drunken stupidity.
True, but but there would be customers.
Customers with bubba caps.  :evil: