http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_ec169697-a19e-525f-a532-81b3df229697.html
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INDIANAPOLIS | Overturning a common law dating back to the English Magna Carta of 1215, the Indiana Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Hoosiers have no right to resist unlawful police entry into their homes.
In a 3-2 decision, Justice Steven David writing for the court said if a police officer wants to enter a home for any reason or no reason at all, a homeowner cannot do anything to block the officer's entry.
"We believe ... a right to resist an unlawful police entry into a home is against public policy and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence," David said. "We also find that allowing resistance unnecessarily escalates the level of violence and therefore the risk of injuries to all parties involved without preventing the arrest."
:horrormirth:
I remember years ago when I was a young would-be revolutionary, and I said "This country is becoming a police state!" and people said "Oh, don't be silly... the US will never be a police state."
I'd like to see how that works out in Texas. Or parts of Missouri. You get in the boonies out there and shit gets weird.
From the same fucking article...
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On Tuesday, the court said police serving a warrant may enter a home without knocking if officers decide circumstances justify it. Prior to that ruling, police serving a warrant would have to obtain a judge's permission to enter without knocking.
Do they schedule a whole week in advance to shitting on the 4th, or is it coincidental?
So...what if they come in wanting snacks? Is it unlawful to say, "Oh I'm terribly sorry, but I'm fresh out of saltines! You should have dropped in on Thursday."?
Quotea right to resist an unlawful police entry into a home is against public policy and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence
Good to know that it's the fourth amendment that is wrong and not the "public policy"
HAHAHA! I TOLD ALL OF YOU FUCKERS THIS WAS COMING, WAY THE HELL BACK IN 2003!
Are you allowed to leave the door closed? Can you retroactively sue, or get evidence thrown out?
Quote from: Slyph on May 14, 2011, 07:14:13 AM
Are you allowed to leave the door closed? Can you retroactively sue, or get evidence thrown out?
Not the point. The 4th amendment protects against unreasonable search and seizure, not just results of a bad search being used against you in court.
Oh no, I wasn't trying to justify it, you're right... I just wanted to know what my options were :horrormirth:
Quote from: Slyph on May 14, 2011, 07:17:26 AM
Oh no, I wasn't trying to justify it, you're right... I just wanted to know what my options were :horrormirth:
"Bend over and smile."
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 14, 2011, 07:11:29 AM
HAHAHA! I TOLD ALL OF YOU FUCKERS THIS WAS COMING, WAY THE HELL BACK IN 2003!
SCOTUS
should kick the hell out of this. In todays America™ I can't feel confident. States cannot individually override the constitution.
That would require SCOTUS to have the balls to make a ruling at all.
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on May 14, 2011, 05:05:56 AM
http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_ec169697-a19e-525f-a532-81b3df229697.html
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INDIANAPOLIS | Overturning a common law dating back to the English Magna Carta of 1215, the Indiana Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Hoosiers have no right to resist unlawful police entry into their homes.
In a 3-2 decision, Justice Steven David writing for the court said if a police officer wants to enter a home for any reason or no reason at all, a homeowner cannot do anything to block the officer's entry.
"We believe … a right to resist an unlawful police entry into a home is against public policy and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence," David said. "We also find that allowing resistance unnecessarily escalates the level of violence and therefore the risk of injuries to all parties involved without preventing the arrest."
ATTN PD: THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN HAPPENING.
It's just now de jure.
'just'?!
Quote from: Iptuous on May 14, 2011, 06:41:58 PM
'just'?!
Are you making waves, Citizen? We do have uranium that needs mining...
uh... no officer. i was simply proclaiming that the decision of a judge and or policeman is just and proper by virtue of their position...
i have nothing to hide; i invite you to take a look around my gilded home. would you like some tea while you're quartered here?
Quote from: Iptuous on May 14, 2011, 06:47:26 PM
uh... no officer. i was simply proclaiming that the decision of a judge and or policeman is just and proper by virtue of their position...
i have nothing to hide; i invite you to take a look around my gilded home. would you like some tea while you're quartered here?
Very good young man. Stick your head in the sand and your ass in the air. Your rapist will be by shortly.
:lulz:
Quote from: Iptuous on May 14, 2011, 06:41:58 PM
'just'?!
Muh-huh.
You see, Folks seem to really want to believe they have freedom to move about. But they really don't. It's all an illusion. Fact is, you are ALLOWED to move where the state SANCTIONS. Period.
But if you come under notice of the state, you WILL stay put, your space WILL be invaded, and your ability to do anything you want WILL be watched, curtailed or stopped altogether.
I did go and read the article.
Due to a super cold and an over-dose of Nyquil last night, I am unable to make any sense of anything. AKA Reading Comprehension FAIL.
So is this in action as of now? Is this for every state?
Quote from: *GrumpButt* on May 14, 2011, 06:52:28 PM
I did go and read the article.
Due to a super cold and an over-dose of Nyquil last night, I am unable to make any sense of anything. AKA Reading Comprehension FAIL.
So is this in action as of now? Is this for every state?
Illinosy.
What would be the chance of this spreading to other States? If any?
Quote from: *GrumpButt* on May 14, 2011, 06:55:44 PM
What would be the chance of this spreading to other States? If any?
169%
:x :x
The smart people here have been talking about moving to Europe for awhile.
How much $$ do you need to do that?
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 14, 2011, 07:07:41 PM
The smart people here have been talking about moving to Europe for awhile.
How much $$ do you need to do that?
Europe??? No place will be safe, but the wilds of northern Canada could delay it a while.
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 14, 2011, 07:10:16 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 14, 2011, 07:07:41 PM
The smart people here have been talking about moving to Europe for awhile.
How much $$ do you need to do that?
Europe??? No place will be safe, but the wilds of northern Canada could delay it a while.
Too bad the rest of the country's set to go to shit.
I thought it already did. :?
Quote from: European Convention on Human RightsArticle 8 – Right to respect for private and family life
1. Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence.
2. There shall be no interference by a public authority with the exercise of this right except such as is in accordance with the law and is necessary in a democratic society in the interests of national security, public safety or the economic well-being of the country, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others.
:lulz:
"MA, THE COPS ARE HERE! GIVE 'EM OUR SUPPER AND GET YER DRAWS DOWN! YOU TOO, SON!"
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 14, 2011, 07:15:20 PM
I thought it already did. :?
It's in the process. It's still 5 years behind America, though Harper's doing his best to catch up.
Yeah, Yurp's not much better, Folks.
Nowhere to run to, nowhere to hide. Police State Worldwide is HERE...coming to a neighborhood near you (if it isn't there already and you just missed it).
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 14, 2011, 07:10:16 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 14, 2011, 07:07:41 PM
The smart people here have been talking about moving to Europe for awhile.
How much $$ do you need to do that?
Europe??? No place will be safe, but the wilds of northern Canada could delay it a while.
Nope. Canada's gone batshit right wing.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 14, 2011, 07:55:50 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 14, 2011, 07:10:16 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 14, 2011, 07:07:41 PM
The smart people here have been talking about moving to Europe for awhile.
How much $$ do you need to do that?
Europe??? No place will be safe, but the wilds of northern Canada could delay it a while.
Nope. Canada's gone batshit right wing.
I know, I was referring to The Big Empty in the north, where the bears rule.
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 14, 2011, 08:00:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 14, 2011, 07:55:50 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 14, 2011, 07:10:16 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 14, 2011, 07:07:41 PM
The smart people here have been talking about moving to Europe for awhile.
How much $$ do you need to do that?
Europe??? No place will be safe, but the wilds of northern Canada could delay it a while.
Nope. Canada's gone batshit right wing.
I know, I was referring to The Big Empty in the north, where the bears rule.
Oh, Russia.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 14, 2011, 08:04:13 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 14, 2011, 08:00:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 14, 2011, 07:55:50 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 14, 2011, 07:10:16 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 14, 2011, 07:07:41 PM
The smart people here have been talking about moving to Europe for awhile.
How much $$ do you need to do that?
Europe??? No place will be safe, but the wilds of northern Canada could delay it a while.
Nope. Canada's gone batshit right wing.
I know, I was referring to The Big Empty in the north, where the bears rule.
Oh, Russia.
:lulz: