http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/05/25/Reid-duels-Rand-on-lapsing-Patriot-Act/UPI-33021306326539/
QuoteWASHINGTON, May 25 (UPI) -- The federal Patriot Act could briefly expire by the end of the week if U.S. Sen. Rand Paul insists on votes for controversial amendments, officials say.
The Hill newspaper said if the lapse occurs it could severely impact the law enforcement community, which uses it to track suspected terrorists.
Tuesday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., tabled a motion to extend the Patriot Act in what the newspaper said was a complicated maneuver to circumvent Paul, R-Ky. The maneuver was designed to save time while Paul resists the extension of the law, which expires at 12:01 a.m. Friday, Senate aides told the newspaper.
After Reid was able to table a previous motion to proceed to the Patriot Act by a vote of 74-13, he picked up a privileged message from the House to which he added the Patriot Act extension as a substitute, The Hill said.
Reid then filed cloture on the bill, giving the Senate a chance to vote Thursday on cutting off Paul's filibuster.
But the newspaper warned if Paul insists on using all 30 hours of post-cloture debate Senate rules give him, he could force the Patriot Act to lapse for a day. And even if Paul waives post-cloture debate, lawmakers will have to rush to get the extension signed into law by Thursday because President Obama is in Europe.
The Hill said aides will have to fly a copy of the four-year Patriot Act extension to Europe if they are to prevent law-enforcement powers from expiring.
One of Paul's proposed amendments says authority to obtain information under the Patriot Act does not include certain firearms records
dislike him for his other positions, but he seems to be the only one on either side riding the correct motorcycle on this one.
He's taken a few stands that forced me to side with him.
What exactly are all the amendments hes proposing?
I'm glad to see him doing this. It's not really that meaningful if it lapses for a day, unfortunately.
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on May 25, 2011, 06:28:03 PM
What exactly are all the amendments hes proposing?
From here: http://www.randpaul2010.com/2011/05/senator-rand-paul-introduces-amendments-to-usa-patriot-act-extension-bill/
Quote· Burden-Shifting Suspicious Activity Report Amendment: Requires law enforcement to initiate requests for suspicious activity reports (SARs). Shifts the burden for generating suspicious activity reports to law enforcement, requiring FBI/other law enforcement to initiate requests for SARs, rather than requiring financial institutions to automatically generate these reports.
o Supported by Kentucky Bankers Association and National Association of Federal Credit Unions
· National Security Letters Issued by Judges: States that no officer or employee of the United States may issue a National Security Letter (NSL) unless a FISA court judge finds that probable cause exists to issue the NSL. Brings NSLs into compliance with plain text of Fourth Amendment.
· Firearm Records Amendment: Clarifies that the authority to obtain info under the USA PATRIOT Act does not include authority to obtain certain firearm records. Supported by Gun Owners of America.
· Roving Wiretaps Amendment: This amendment eliminates the possibility of "John Doe" roving wiretaps that identify neither the person nor the phone to be wiretapped. Also requires government agents to ascertain the presence of the target of a roving wiretap before beginning surveillance of a particular phone or email, using the same standard that is already required for criminal roving taps.
· Leahy/Paul Amendment: This amendment consists of the substance of Sen. Patrick Leahy's (D-Vt.) PATRIOT Act reform bill (S. 193) as reported from the Judiciary Committee. The vote was 10-7 (those voting in favor included Sen. Mike Lee [R-Utah]).
o Sen. Paul is co-sponsoring Sen. Leahy's amendment.
· Section 215/Access to Business Records: Restores the pre-PATRIOT Act standard for obtaining records.
o Supported by the American Library Association (ALA) and the Association of Research Libraries (ARL).
· "Good Faith Standard" Suspicious Activity Report Amendment: This amendment would implement a reform that was previously proposed by the Financial Services Roundtable. This reform will help reduce the high number of "defensive filings" submitted by financial institutions due to their fear of being penalized for failure to file a suspicious activity report (SAR). It codifies a "good faith standard" to ensure that if a financial institution has established a SAR decision-making process, has followed existing policies, procedures, and processes, and determines not to file a SAR, the bank or credit union would not be penalized for its failure to file the SAR unless the failure was accompanied by evidence of bad faith.
Supported by Kentucky Bankers Association and National Association of Federal Credit Unions
· Judicial Review of Suspicious Activity Reports: States that the Secretary of the Treasury may not require any financial institution to submit a suspicious activity report unless an appropriate district court of the United States issues an order finding that probable cause exists to obtain the information.
· Minimization/Destruction of NSL and Section 215 Business Records Info: Directs the Attorney General to establish minimization and destruction procedures governing the acquisition, retention, and dissemination of private information by the FBI. The purpose is to ensure that private information obtained outside the scope of an NSL or Section 215 order is appropriately disposed of or destroyed.
His real wish is to let the entire thing expire but the political reality prevents that.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 25, 2011, 04:43:53 PM
dislike him for his other positions, but he seems to be the only one on either side riding the correct motorcycle on this one.
Which is a great indicator of just how screwed we are.
Ron Paul is an excellent political barometer, if he says it should be done it will never happen, ever.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 25, 2011, 11:06:42 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 25, 2011, 04:43:53 PM
dislike him for his other positions, but he seems to be the only one on either side riding the correct motorcycle on this one.
Which is a great indicator of just how screwed we are.
Ron Paul is an excellent political barometer, if he says it should be done it will never happen, ever.
This isn't Ron Paul, this is Rand Paul. Ron's son, who had his security beat up a woman journalist.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 26, 2011, 01:59:50 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 25, 2011, 11:06:42 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 25, 2011, 04:43:53 PM
dislike him for his other positions, but he seems to be the only one on either side riding the correct motorcycle on this one.
Which is a great indicator of just how screwed we are.
Ron Paul is an excellent political barometer, if he says it should be done it will never happen, ever.
This isn't Ron Paul, this is Rand Paul. Ron's son, who had his security beat up a woman journalist.
Check your facts. Or the thread about this when it happened.
Alternatively you could just continue to pull shit out of your ass and present them as facts.
That gets you a long way these days no matter what your political leanings, apparently.
What those assholes did to her can never be excused, and his apology for it was limp dicked at best.
That being the truth, writing what you wrote as if it were fact does allow me to call you an ignorant fuckneck who doesn't bother to check his facts, and thus you are part of the problem no less than some right wing ass hat spouting shit he knows nothing about.
That's right BH. You're no better than the right wing fucks you criticize for not bothering to research and learn about a subject before they open their mouths about it.
Enjoy being no more informed than anyone else who apparently have vocal cords in their colon.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 26, 2011, 01:59:50 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 25, 2011, 11:06:42 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 25, 2011, 04:43:53 PM
dislike him for his other positions, but he seems to be the only one on either side riding the correct motorcycle on this one.
Which is a great indicator of just how screwed we are.
Ron Paul is an excellent political barometer, if he says it should be done it will never happen, ever.
This isn't Ron Paul, this is Rand Paul. Ron's son, who had his security beat up a woman journalist.
Whoops. I'll retain some small measure of hope then.
Apparently, Rand is really interested in making the gun lobby happy, not trying to block the Patriot act. :lulz:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2chambers/post/vote-on-patriot-act-extension-delayed-as-rand-paul-pushes-for-amendment-on-gun-rights/2011/05/25/AGhzDJBH_blog.html
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 03:35:26 AM
Apparently, Rand is really interested in making the gun lobby happy, not trying to block the Patriot act. :lulz:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2chambers/post/vote-on-patriot-act-extension-delayed-as-rand-paul-pushes-for-amendment-on-gun-rights/2011/05/25/AGhzDJBH_blog.html
I debated with myself on whether or not to even respond to this post. I don't
yet hold the sort of vitriol you get from others on this board, but you're doing yourself no favors ITT.
You apparently didn't read the link I posted originally, or the one in answer to Lord Snatch.
Oh, and forget entirely that The Washington Post would NEVER deliberately leave out the other amendments he's trying to get added and only focus on the one that would get a liberals' blood all a fiar.
Nope, would never happen.
They can remove liberties as long as they get those nasty people who want to have guns too, right?
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 03:23:48 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 26, 2011, 01:59:50 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 25, 2011, 11:06:42 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 25, 2011, 04:43:53 PM
dislike him for his other positions, but he seems to be the only one on either side riding the correct motorcycle on this one.
Which is a great indicator of just how screwed we are.
Ron Paul is an excellent political barometer, if he says it should be done it will never happen, ever.
This isn't Ron Paul, this is Rand Paul. Ron's son, who had his security beat up a woman journalist.
Check your facts. Or the thread about this when it happened.
Alternatively you could just continue to pull shit out of your ass and present them as facts.
That gets you a long way these days no matter what your political leanings, apparently.
What those assholes did to her can never be excused, and his apology for it was limp dicked at best.
That being the truth, writing what you wrote as if it were fact does allow me to call you an ignorant fuckneck who doesn't bother to check his facts, and thus you are part of the problem no less than some right wing ass hat spouting shit he knows nothing about.
That's right BH. You're no better than the right wing fucks you criticize for not bothering to research and learn about a subject before they open their mouths about it.
Enjoy being no more informed than anyone else who apparently have vocal cords in their colon.
I'm pretty sure I never criticized them for that actually.
What I was criticizing for was hiring jackbooted thugs as security. Something I am pretty sure I am not guilty of.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 26, 2011, 03:57:30 AM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 03:23:48 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 26, 2011, 01:59:50 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 25, 2011, 11:06:42 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 25, 2011, 04:43:53 PM
dislike him for his other positions, but he seems to be the only one on either side riding the correct motorcycle on this one.
Which is a great indicator of just how screwed we are.
Ron Paul is an excellent political barometer, if he says it should be done it will never happen, ever.
This isn't Ron Paul, this is Rand Paul. Ron's son, who had his security beat up a woman journalist.
Check your facts. Or the thread about this when it happened.
Alternatively you could just continue to pull shit out of your ass and present them as facts.
That gets you a long way these days no matter what your political leanings, apparently.
What those assholes did to her can never be excused, and his apology for it was limp dicked at best.
That being the truth, writing what you wrote as if it were fact does allow me to call you an ignorant fuckneck who doesn't bother to check his facts, and thus you are part of the problem no less than some right wing ass hat spouting shit he knows nothing about.
That's right BH. You're no better than the right wing fucks you criticize for not bothering to research and learn about a subject before they open their mouths about it.
Enjoy being no more informed than anyone else who apparently have vocal cords in their colon.
I'm pretty sure I never criticized them for that actually.
What I was criticizing for was hiring jackbooted thugs as security. Something I am pretty sure I am not guilty of.
Never happened.
I'm not going to do your research for you.
Do it yourself, or don't.
Willful ignorance used to really piss me off and still does when I'm not busy otherwise really fucking enjoying not listening and reading the thoughts of the uninformed. You don't qualify as important enough to piss me off.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 04:03:13 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 26, 2011, 03:57:30 AM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 03:23:48 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 26, 2011, 01:59:50 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 25, 2011, 11:06:42 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 25, 2011, 04:43:53 PM
dislike him for his other positions, but he seems to be the only one on either side riding the correct motorcycle on this one.
Which is a great indicator of just how screwed we are.
Ron Paul is an excellent political barometer, if he says it should be done it will never happen, ever.
This isn't Ron Paul, this is Rand Paul. Ron's son, who had his security beat up a woman journalist.
Check your facts. Or the thread about this when it happened.
Alternatively you could just continue to pull shit out of your ass and present them as facts.
That gets you a long way these days no matter what your political leanings, apparently.
What those assholes did to her can never be excused, and his apology for it was limp dicked at best.
That being the truth, writing what you wrote as if it were fact does allow me to call you an ignorant fuckneck who doesn't bother to check his facts, and thus you are part of the problem no less than some right wing ass hat spouting shit he knows nothing about.
That's right BH. You're no better than the right wing fucks you criticize for not bothering to research and learn about a subject before they open their mouths about it.
Enjoy being no more informed than anyone else who apparently have vocal cords in their colon.
I'm pretty sure I never criticized them for that actually.
What I was criticizing for was hiring jackbooted thugs as security. Something I am pretty sure I am not guilty of.
Never happened.
I'm not going to do your research for you.
Do it yourself, or don't.
Willful ignorance used to really piss me off and still does when I'm not busy otherwise really fucking enjoying not listening and reading the thoughts of the uninformed. You don't qualify as important enough to piss me off.
Yes, do your research BH. The thug who stomped on that woman's head was wearing tennis shoes, not jackboots.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 03:54:25 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 03:35:26 AM
Apparently, Rand is really interested in making the gun lobby happy, not trying to block the Patriot act. :lulz:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2chambers/post/vote-on-patriot-act-extension-delayed-as-rand-paul-pushes-for-amendment-on-gun-rights/2011/05/25/AGhzDJBH_blog.html
I debated with myself on whether or not to even respond to this post. I don't yet hold the sort of vitriol you get from others on this board, but you're doing yourself no favors ITT.
You apparently didn't read the link I posted originally, or the one in answer to Lord Snatch.
Oh, and forget entirely that The Washington Post would NEVER deliberately leave out the other amendments he's trying to get added and only focus on the one that would get a liberals' blood all a fiar.
Nope, would never happen.
They can remove liberties as long as they get those nasty people who want to have guns too, right?
They did in fact mention the other amendments. I fail to see why changing the Patriot act to better reflect what he wants is worth a damn though. Hell, even the ammendment that seems like a good idea, the one to require a judge's signature on the NSLs, moves it to the goddamned FISA court.
I like how the Senate Republicans and Senate Democrats got together in secret beforehand to decide there was no need to ammend the Patriot Act in any way, or let it expire. Democracy inaction, people.
eesh. It's pretty clear to me that I should not post on the political board when I've put a few drinks in my stomach. Or any board for that matter.
I could have replied a little less like a complete dick.
Quote from: Cain on May 26, 2011, 08:17:24 AM
I like how the Senate Republicans and Senate Democrats got together in secret beforehand to decide there was no need to ammend the Patriot Act in any way, or let it expire. Democracy inaction, people.
I'm guessing you didn't put a space intentionally? Hadn't heard that before, I like it. That was what really got my blood going about the entire thing. Then the use of procedural moves, which both parties are guilty of using, in order to close or prevent debate on it.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 04:41:10 AM
They did in fact mention the other amendments. I fail to see why changing the Patriot act to better reflect what he wants is worth a damn though. Hell, even the amendment that seems like a good idea, the one to require a judge's signature on the NSLs, moves it to the goddamned FISA court.
You're right, seeking to amend it, even amendments that actually have a chance of getting bipartisan support, even the debate ABOUT the act itself is just stupid. Not worth a damn.
He should just toe the line like everyone else in his party so you can go back to being a self righteous left winger and continue to rant that "the right is always wrong" without having to worry about becoming like the people you hate.
Good luck with that.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 12:41:08 PM
You're right, seeking to amend it, even amendments that actually have a chance of getting bipartisan support, even the debate ABOUT the act itself is just stupid. Not worth a damn.
He should just toe the line like everyone else in his party so you can go back to being a self righteous left winger and continue to rant that "the right is always wrong" without having to worry about becoming like the people you hate.
Good luck with that.
Jesus Fuck, dude. Seriously? You're going make me defend Requia? Fucking hate you, Pickles.
In all seriousness though, you sound like a complete jackass right now, because your primary means of dealing with anyone who disagrees with you has been to accuse of them of being "left-wing". And also pull random shit out of your ass to attack them with.
Not that they were contributing anything to the conversation, but still, might want to try to, I don't know, not say stupid shit in response to stupid shit? Just sayin'.
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 01:48:04 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 12:41:08 PM
You're right, seeking to amend it, even amendments that actually have a chance of getting bipartisan support, even the debate ABOUT the act itself is just stupid. Not worth a damn.
He should just toe the line like everyone else in his party so you can go back to being a self righteous left winger and continue to rant that "the right is always wrong" without having to worry about becoming like the people you hate.
Good luck with that.
Jesus Fuck, dude. Seriously? You're going make me defend Requia? Fucking hate you, Pickles.
In all seriousness though, you sound like a complete jackass right now, because your primary means of dealing with anyone who disagrees with you has been to accuse of them of being "left-wing". And also pull random shit out of your ass to attack them with.
Not that they were contributing anything to the conversation, but still, might want to try to, I don't know, not say stupid shit in response to stupid shit? Just sayin'.
Enough people here have told me I'm an asshole that I've looked at my own writing and concluded that yes, I am a bit of an asshole.
might want to try to, I don't know, not say stupid shit in response to stupid shit? Just sayin'. You are 169% correct. I lost my head.
Well, it's to be expected. A major religious figure of yours has been impugned.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 03:23:48 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 26, 2011, 01:59:50 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 25, 2011, 11:06:42 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 25, 2011, 04:43:53 PM
dislike him for his other positions, but he seems to be the only one on either side riding the correct motorcycle on this one.
Which is a great indicator of just how screwed we are.
Ron Paul is an excellent political barometer, if he says it should be done it will never happen, ever.
This isn't Ron Paul, this is Rand Paul. Ron's son, who had his security beat up a woman journalist.
Check your facts. Or the thread about this when it happened.
Alternatively you could just continue to pull shit out of your ass and present them as facts.
That gets you a long way these days no matter what your political leanings, apparently.
What those assholes did to her can never be excused, and his apology for it was limp dicked at best.
That being the truth, writing what you wrote as if it were fact does allow me to call you an ignorant fuckneck who doesn't bother to check his facts, and thus you are part of the problem no less than some right wing ass hat spouting shit he knows nothing about.
That's right BH. You're no better than the right wing fucks you criticize for not bothering to research and learn about a subject before they open their mouths about it.
Enjoy being no more informed than anyone else who apparently have vocal cords in their colon.
See what I mean?
You really had no choice.
Rand's honor must be upheld, and anyone who watched that video is a tool of the left-wing machine, because it has an inconvenient action or two in it.
And Rand was correct to not actually disavow the man. That hippie was in the way of freedom, and deserved everything she got.
I'm going to take a break and KMFMS for awhile until I can post without being a complete fucking prick. I may be using this place as an outlet for misdirected anger that is, while a bit cathartic at the time, completely unfair to everyone else here and certainly won't win me any friends.
-Pickle, going back to being a ghost. And maybe posting good music.
Quote from: Cain on May 26, 2011, 08:17:24 AM
I like how the Senate Republicans and Senate Democrats got together in secret beforehand to decide there was no need to ammend the Patriot Act in any way, or let it expire. Democracy inaction, people.
Its like Ive always said. The two things that Democrats and Republicans can agree upon is that the American people are enemies of freedom who are up to no good, and rich people need more money.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 04:18:32 PM
I'm going to take a break and KMFMS for awhile until I can post without being a complete fucking prick. I may be using this place as an outlet for misdirected anger that is, while a bit cathartic at the time, completely unfair to everyone else here and certainly won't win me any friends.
-Pickle, going back to being a ghost. And maybe posting good music.
Dunno why. The debate isn't going to get any easier.
Perhaps you merely wish to preserve the meme embedded in your head that says one or more of these people embodies a political possibility that transcends human nature?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 04:34:57 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 04:18:32 PM
I'm going to take a break and KMFMS for awhile until I can post without being a complete fucking prick. I may be using this place as an outlet for misdirected anger that is, while a bit cathartic at the time, completely unfair to everyone else here and certainly won't win me any friends.
-Pickle, going back to being a ghost. And maybe posting good music.
Dunno why. The debate isn't going to get any easier.
Perhaps you merely wish to preserve the meme embedded in your head that says one or more of these people embodies a political possibility that transcends human nature?
No, I've just noted a trend in my own replies here that I don't want to continue doing so I'm going to take a break from replying to things I disagree with unless I can do it without being reactive and dickish. I was already in a foul mood last night and should have just gone to bed instead of trying to correct people who were being wrong on the internet. I really do know better than that.
And it doesn't matter to me who it was trying to get the Act debated, just that someone was trying, even if the political reality right now is that no changes will come of it.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 05:21:50 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 04:34:57 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 04:18:32 PM
I'm going to take a break and KMFMS for awhile until I can post without being a complete fucking prick. I may be using this place as an outlet for misdirected anger that is, while a bit cathartic at the time, completely unfair to everyone else here and certainly won't win me any friends.
-Pickle, going back to being a ghost. And maybe posting good music.
Dunno why. The debate isn't going to get any easier.
Perhaps you merely wish to preserve the meme embedded in your head that says one or more of these people embodies a political possibility that transcends human nature?
No, I've just noted a trend in my own replies here that I don't want to continue doing so I'm going to take a break from replying to things I disagree with unless I can do it without being reactive and dickish. I was already in a foul mood last night and should have just gone to bed instead of trying to correct people who were being wrong on the internet. I really do know better than that.
And it doesn't matter to me who it was trying to get the Act debated, just that someone was trying, even if the political reality right now is that no changes will come of it.
Odd. I was under the impression that objectivists were results-oriented.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 04:18:32 PM
I'm going to take a break and KMFMS for awhile until I can post without being a complete fucking prick. I may be using this place as an outlet for misdirected anger that is, while a bit cathartic at the time, completely unfair to everyone else here and certainly won't win me any friends.
-Pickle, going back to being a ghost. And maybe posting good music.
Pickle, you come across as a bully here.
Requia and I are relatively unpopular, so you unleash on both of us with full vitriol, swearing at us, calling us stupid, etc etc.
Roger, who is both popular and likely to retaliate several times over says similar things and you back down.
I didn't really have a problem with you before but this really bothers me.
Other people give me shit because they have a problem with what I am saying or because they don't like me personally. You are doing it because I am an easy target and that's some bullshit. If it was actually a problem with what I was saying you'd have launched into Roger the same way.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 12:41:08 PM
I'm guessing you didn't put a space intentionally?
Naturally.
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on May 26, 2011, 04:19:22 PM
Its like Ive always said. The two things that Democrats and Republicans can agree upon is that the American people are enemies of freedom who are up to no good, and rich people need more money.
Which pretty much boils down to "people like them are the only ones who can be trusted with power and wealth." In fact, David Brooks, royal courtier to the Beltway elite, has just advocated, this very week, for the restoration of an aristocracy (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/24/opinion/24brooks.html):
QuoteBritain is also blessed with a functioning political culture. It is dominated by people who live in London and who have often known each other since prep school. This makes it gossipy and often incestuous. But the plusses outweigh the minuses.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 26, 2011, 07:52:19 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 04:18:32 PM
I'm going to take a break and KMFMS for awhile until I can post without being a complete fucking prick. I may be using this place as an outlet for misdirected anger that is, while a bit cathartic at the time, completely unfair to everyone else here and certainly won't win me any friends.
-Pickle, going back to being a ghost. And maybe posting good music.
Pickle, you come across as a bully here.
Requia and I are relatively unpopular, so you unleash on both of us with full vitriol, swearing at us, calling us stupid, etc etc.
Roger, who is both popular and likely to retaliate several times over says similar things and you back down.
I didn't really have a problem with you before but this really bothers me.
Other people give me shit because they have a problem with what I am saying or because they don't like me personally. You are doing it because I am an easy target and that's some bullshit. If it was actually a problem with what I was saying you'd have launched into Roger the same way.
I must say, I am a little disappointed that DP won't go toe-to-toe with me over this shit. It's good for the digestion.
As for Requia, EVERYONE bashes on her. You can't help it. She's an utter snot, and she's ALWAYS WRONG. Hell, she couldn't tell the difference between a description of an objectivist, and the person describing it (ie, if you describe the behavior, you must endorse it). She's a fucking tard of the first water, and deserves everything she gets.
I was gonna go off on you, too, but you at least had the balls to post the above.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 26, 2011, 07:52:19 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 04:18:32 PM
I'm going to take a break and KMFMS for awhile until I can post without being a complete fucking prick. I may be using this place as an outlet for misdirected anger that is, while a bit cathartic at the time, completely unfair to everyone else here and certainly won't win me any friends.
-Pickle, going back to being a ghost. And maybe posting good music.
Pickle, you come across as a bully here.
Requia and I are relatively unpopular, so you unleash on both of us with full vitriol, swearing at us, calling us stupid, etc etc.
Roger, who is both popular and likely to retaliate several times over says similar things and you back down.
I didn't really have a problem with you before but this really bothers me.
Other people give me shit because they have a problem with what I am saying or because they don't like me personally. You are doing it because I am an easy target and that's some bullshit. If it was actually a problem with what I was saying you'd have launched into Roger the same way.
I backed down this morning when I read this with a sober, if somewhat hungover mind. Believe me, if Roger had been chiming in last night I'd have cussed and spit at him too. Hell, I butt heads with him more than anyone else here. But he's usually got his facts correct, even if we just disagree. Your facts were incorrect and I should have linked or something. Anything other than the way I replied. I disagreed with the substance of what Requia said and should have replied differently as well.
My apologies. I know I do that a lot here lately and that's not what I want to continue to do.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 08:00:41 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 26, 2011, 07:52:19 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 04:18:32 PM
I'm going to take a break and KMFMS for awhile until I can post without being a complete fucking prick. I may be using this place as an outlet for misdirected anger that is, while a bit cathartic at the time, completely unfair to everyone else here and certainly won't win me any friends.
-Pickle, going back to being a ghost. And maybe posting good music.
Pickle, you come across as a bully here.
Requia and I are relatively unpopular, so you unleash on both of us with full vitriol, swearing at us, calling us stupid, etc etc.
Roger, who is both popular and likely to retaliate several times over says similar things and you back down.
I didn't really have a problem with you before but this really bothers me.
Other people give me shit because they have a problem with what I am saying or because they don't like me personally. You are doing it because I am an easy target and that's some bullshit. If it was actually a problem with what I was saying you'd have launched into Roger the same way.
I backed down this morning when I read this with a sober, if somewhat hungover mind. Believe me, if Roger had been chiming in last night I'd have cussed and spit at him too. Hell, I butt heads with him more than anyone else here. But he's usually got his facts correct, even if we just disagree. Your facts were incorrect and I should have linked or something. Anything other than the way I replied. I disagreed with the substance of what Requia said and should have replied differently as well.
My apologies. I know I do that a lot here lately and that's not what I want to continue to do.
Booze causes this, trust me, I know.
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 08:03:33 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 08:00:41 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 26, 2011, 07:52:19 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 04:18:32 PM
I'm going to take a break and KMFMS for awhile until I can post without being a complete fucking prick. I may be using this place as an outlet for misdirected anger that is, while a bit cathartic at the time, completely unfair to everyone else here and certainly won't win me any friends.
-Pickle, going back to being a ghost. And maybe posting good music.
Pickle, you come across as a bully here.
Requia and I are relatively unpopular, so you unleash on both of us with full vitriol, swearing at us, calling us stupid, etc etc.
Roger, who is both popular and likely to retaliate several times over says similar things and you back down.
I didn't really have a problem with you before but this really bothers me.
Other people give me shit because they have a problem with what I am saying or because they don't like me personally. You are doing it because I am an easy target and that's some bullshit. If it was actually a problem with what I was saying you'd have launched into Roger the same way.
I backed down this morning when I read this with a sober, if somewhat hungover mind. Believe me, if Roger had been chiming in last night I'd have cussed and spit at him too. Hell, I butt heads with him more than anyone else here. But he's usually got his facts correct, even if we just disagree. Your facts were incorrect and I should have linked or something. Anything other than the way I replied. I disagreed with the substance of what Requia said and should have replied differently as well.
My apologies. I know I do that a lot here lately and that's not what I want to continue to do.
Booze causes this, trust me, I know.
I'm normally a quite happy drunk, even if I start out in a bad mood. I wasn't last night, but yeah, it certainly can change things much more quickly.
Well, DP, you DO get shat on a lot, so that's to be expected.
And the reason you get shat on a lot is that you have the wrong values. Not being facetious, here. You have chosen a party/organization to represent your viewpoint. Doesn't matter if it's the teabaggers at Reason, the objectivist foundation, the Smelly Hippie Save the Spotted Slug Party, or the hapless bag of fuckwits we like to call "the democratic party".
In all of the above cases, you're signing up for a religion. You are required to swallow - intact - every turd they offer, and reality be damned. Reason reads like a fucking parody site, and anyone who believes a word they print is just begging for The Stark Fist of Rebuttal.
I fear that I may have offended DP. :sad:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:13:56 PM
I fear that I may have offended DP. :sad:
I don't know why, you only spoke the truth.
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 08:14:43 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:13:56 PM
I fear that I may have offended DP. :sad:
I don't know why, you only spoke the truth.
That doesn't make you popular at parties, I hear, nor with cultists.
On the other hand, I view the Ron/Rand Paul cultists as basically being unable to think, so I just tend to avoid them at parties, anyway (they never answer questions, they just recite their party ideology when questioned. No fun at all.).
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:16:57 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 08:14:43 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:13:56 PM
I fear that I may have offended DP. :sad:
I don't know why, you only spoke the truth.
That doesn't make you popular at parties, I hear, nor with cultists.
On the other hand, I view the Ron/Rand Paul cultists as basically being unable to think, so I just tend to avoid them at parties, anyway (they never answer questions, they just recite their party ideology when questioned. No fun at all.).
We should start the Constitution Emeritus Party.
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 08:18:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:16:57 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 08:14:43 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:13:56 PM
I fear that I may have offended DP. :sad:
I don't know why, you only spoke the truth.
That doesn't make you popular at parties, I hear, nor with cultists.
On the other hand, I view the Ron/Rand Paul cultists as basically being unable to think, so I just tend to avoid them at parties, anyway (they never answer questions, they just recite their party ideology when questioned. No fun at all.).
We should start the Constitution Emeritus Party.
Fuck no. We'd be coopted by the religious nuts in DAYS. Go look at the Constitution Party's website, to see what I mean.
How about the "Hoodlums for Hire" party?
Or "We're just here for the free drinks" party, or the "Laughing All The Way Down" party?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:20:40 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 08:18:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:16:57 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 08:14:43 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:13:56 PM
I fear that I may have offended DP. :sad:
I don't know why, you only spoke the truth.
That doesn't make you popular at parties, I hear, nor with cultists.
On the other hand, I view the Ron/Rand Paul cultists as basically being unable to think, so I just tend to avoid them at parties, anyway (they never answer questions, they just recite their party ideology when questioned. No fun at all.).
We should start the Constitution Emeritus Party.
Fuck no. We'd be coopted by the religious nuts in DAYS. Go look at the Constitution Party's website, to see what I mean.
How about the "Hoodlums for Hire" party?
Or "We're just here for the free drinks" party, or the "Laughing All The Way Down" party?
OSHI
The Racing to the Bottom Party.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:20:40 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 08:18:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:16:57 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 08:14:43 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:13:56 PM
I fear that I may have offended DP. :sad:
I don't know why, you only spoke the truth.
That doesn't make you popular at parties, I hear, nor with cultists.
On the other hand, I view the Ron/Rand Paul cultists as basically being unable to think, so I just tend to avoid them at parties, anyway (they never answer questions, they just recite their party ideology when questioned. No fun at all.).
We should start the Constitution Emeritus Party.
Fuck no. We'd be coopted by the religious nuts in DAYS. Go look at the Constitution Party's website, to see what I mean.
How about the "Hoodlums for Hire" party?
Or "We're just here for the free drinks" party, or the "Laughing All The Way Down" party?
"Nigel for Empress" party?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:13:56 PM
I fear that I may have offended DP. :sad:
Na, you didn't offend me. You've said it before, just in a different way. I understand what you're saying. Deprogramming this many years of doing what I'm doing takes diligence. It helps to have it pointed out and rub my nose in it.
Didn't mean for BH and Requia to be on the receiving end of an angry shit-throwing spree is all. I just wanted to be angry about something and if it wasn't that it would have been something else, some other website, some other people.
Quote from: Luna on May 26, 2011, 08:22:07 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:20:40 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 08:18:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:16:57 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 08:14:43 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:13:56 PM
I fear that I may have offended DP. :sad:
I don't know why, you only spoke the truth.
That doesn't make you popular at parties, I hear, nor with cultists.
On the other hand, I view the Ron/Rand Paul cultists as basically being unable to think, so I just tend to avoid them at parties, anyway (they never answer questions, they just recite their party ideology when questioned. No fun at all.).
We should start the Constitution Emeritus Party.
Fuck no. We'd be coopted by the religious nuts in DAYS. Go look at the Constitution Party's website, to see what I mean.
How about the "Hoodlums for Hire" party?
Or "We're just here for the free drinks" party, or the "Laughing All The Way Down" party?
"Nigel for Empress" party?
ARE YOU MAD?
She doesn't NEED a party. She'll just fold up the universe when she's good and ready.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 08:22:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:13:56 PM
I fear that I may have offended DP. :sad:
Na, you didn't offend me. You've said it before, just in a different way. I understand what you're saying. Deprogramming this many years of doing what I'm doing takes diligence. It helps to have it pointed out and rub my nose in it.
Didn't mean for BH and Requia to be on the receiving end of an angry shit-throwing spree is all. I just wanted to be angry about something and if it wasn't that it would have been something else, some other website, some other people.
Okay.
We need more 'wingers around here.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:24:30 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 08:22:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:13:56 PM
I fear that I may have offended DP. :sad:
Na, you didn't offend me. You've said it before, just in a different way. I understand what you're saying. Deprogramming this many years of doing what I'm doing takes diligence. It helps to have it pointed out and rub my nose in it.
Didn't mean for BH and Requia to be on the receiving end of an angry shit-throwing spree is all. I just wanted to be angry about something and if it wasn't that it would have been something else, some other website, some other people.
Okay.
We need more 'wingers around here.
And a couple of Christians.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:24:02 PM
ARE YOU MAD?
She doesn't NEED a party. She'll just fold up the universe when she's good and ready.
Probably. Having the universe folded crossways suits my mood at the moment.
'Wingers and Most hardcore shove-your-face-in-it-and-tell-you-you're-going-to-hell Christians don't have the guts to stand here. Hell, even other Discospags can't stand here, and you'd think they'd be able to.
Obviously, we are Not Nice People.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on May 26, 2011, 08:46:50 PM
Obviously, we are Not Nice People.
Damn, they're on to us.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 07:58:57 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 26, 2011, 07:52:19 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 04:18:32 PM
I'm going to take a break and KMFMS for awhile until I can post without being a complete fucking prick. I may be using this place as an outlet for misdirected anger that is, while a bit cathartic at the time, completely unfair to everyone else here and certainly won't win me any friends.
-Pickle, going back to being a ghost. And maybe posting good music.
Pickle, you come across as a bully here.
Requia and I are relatively unpopular, so you unleash on both of us with full vitriol, swearing at us, calling us stupid, etc etc.
Roger, who is both popular and likely to retaliate several times over says similar things and you back down.
I didn't really have a problem with you before but this really bothers me.
Other people give me shit because they have a problem with what I am saying or because they don't like me personally. You are doing it because I am an easy target and that's some bullshit. If it was actually a problem with what I was saying you'd have launched into Roger the same way.
I must say, I am a little disappointed that DP won't go toe-to-toe with me over this shit. It's good for the digestion.
As for Requia, EVERYONE bashes on her. You can't help it. She's an utter snot, and she's ALWAYS WRONG. Hell, she dared to question it when I made shit up.
I was gonna go off on you, too, but you at least had the balls to post the above.
FIXED. Honesty is important Roger.
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 08:49:39 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on May 26, 2011, 08:46:50 PM
Obviously, we are Not Nice People.
Damn, they're on to us.
Sure you are... Y'all are just nice enough to point out to people when they've got their heads shoved so far up their asses that they can see daylight, is all...
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 08:50:54 PM
Honesty is important Roger.
Yes, yes it is. So why don't you admit that you are a know-nothing? I mean, seriously, Roger made a plain statement about Objectivist beliefs. You couldn't grasp a simple statement that everyone else understood completely. Sorry, but honesty is important. So's intellectual integrity.
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 08:56:52 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 08:50:54 PM
Honesty is important Roger.
Yes, yes it is. So why don't you admit that you are a know-nothing? I mean, seriously, Roger made a plain statement about Objectivist beliefs. You couldn't grasp a simple statement that everyone else understood completely. Sorry, but honesty is important. So's intellectual integrity.
No, he flat out lied on Objectivist beliefs, and lost his shit when called on it.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 08:50:54 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 07:58:57 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 26, 2011, 07:52:19 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 04:18:32 PM
I'm going to take a break and KMFMS for awhile until I can post without being a complete fucking prick. I may be using this place as an outlet for misdirected anger that is, while a bit cathartic at the time, completely unfair to everyone else here and certainly won't win me any friends.
-Pickle, going back to being a ghost. And maybe posting good music.
Pickle, you come across as a bully here.
Requia and I are relatively unpopular, so you unleash on both of us with full vitriol, swearing at us, calling us stupid, etc etc.
Roger, who is both popular and likely to retaliate several times over says similar things and you back down.
I didn't really have a problem with you before but this really bothers me.
Other people give me shit because they have a problem with what I am saying or because they don't like me personally. You are doing it because I am an easy target and that's some bullshit. If it was actually a problem with what I was saying you'd have launched into Roger the same way.
I must say, I am a little disappointed that DP won't go toe-to-toe with me over this shit. It's good for the digestion.
As for Requia, EVERYONE bashes on her. You can't help it. She's an utter snot, and she's ALWAYS WRONG. Hell, she dared to question it when I made shit up.
I was gonna go off on you, too, but you at least had the balls to post the above.
Honesty is important Roger.
Misrepresenting my posts, now?
:lol:
You useless piece of shit.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:07:51 PM
Misrepresenting my posts, now?
:lol:
You useless piece of shit.
Not in the least. I should really make a thread devoted to all the lies you tell about people you don't like.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:07:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 08:56:52 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 08:50:54 PM
Honesty is important Roger.
Yes, yes it is. So why don't you admit that you are a know-nothing? I mean, seriously, Roger made a plain statement about Objectivist beliefs. You couldn't grasp a simple statement that everyone else understood completely. Sorry, but honesty is important. So's intellectual integrity.
No, he flat out lied on Objectivist beliefs, and lost his shit when called on it.
...This from the dumbfuck who has resorted to changing people's text without notation.
You dishonest piece of human garbage. I'm not shocked that you have a soft spot for objectivists. They're really your kind of people.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:08:49 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:07:51 PM
Misrepresenting my posts, now?
:lol:
You useless piece of shit.
Not in the least. I should really make a thread devoted to all the lies you tell about people you don't like.
You sure as hell did. You added text without notating the addition.
Your integrity - again - is demonstratably non-existent.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:08:59 PM
...This from the dumbfuck who has resorted to changing people's text without notation.
You dishonest piece of human garbage. I'm not shocked that you have a soft spot for objectivists. They're really your kind of people.
Lie one, there was notation.
I will concede that some people, whose brains don't function properly, might not recognize that was an edit. If you have a preferred notation I'll use that from now on.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:10:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:08:59 PM
...This from the dumbfuck who has resorted to changing people's text without notation.
You dishonest piece of human garbage. I'm not shocked that you have a soft spot for objectivists. They're really your kind of people.
Lie one, there was notation.
Nope. You added bolded text, without mentioning that you added it. You lying sack of shit.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:11:53 PM
I will concede that some people, whose brains don't function properly, might not recognize that was an edit. If you have a preferred notation I'll use that from now on.
You deliberately misrepresented what I said, without any notation. You have no honor, principles, or integrity.
Own it.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:12:07 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:10:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:08:59 PM
...This from the dumbfuck who has resorted to changing people's text without notation.
You dishonest piece of human garbage. I'm not shocked that you have a soft spot for objectivists. They're really your kind of people.
Lie one, there was notation.
Nope. You added bolded text, without mentioning that you added it. You lying sack of shit.
That would be standard notation to mark an edit on the net. Like I said, if you want a different notation tell me and I'll edit it.
You don't actually *have* a preferred notation though, you just want to lie about people you don't like.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:11:53 PM
I will concede that some people, whose brains don't function properly, might not recognize that was an edit. If you have a preferred notation I'll use that from now on.
Before now, I didn't really have an opinion of you.
Now you're an "it" who does not merit any sort of cconversation.
I know Slyph has been reading a lot of Objectivist philosophy lately, and in the thread in question, he suggested that actually Objectivists would find the negligent manslaughter as being "more evil", as the level of "evasion" was greater.
But who are you going to trust, a guy who has been driving himself crazy with Ayn Rand's brainfarts for the past few months and had no reason to take one side over the other, or someone looking to score points in a personal argument?
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:07:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 08:56:52 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 08:50:54 PM
Honesty is important Roger.
Yes, yes it is. So why don't you admit that you are a know-nothing? I mean, seriously, Roger made a plain statement about Objectivist beliefs. You couldn't grasp a simple statement that everyone else understood completely. Sorry, but honesty is important. So's intellectual integrity.
No, he flat out lied on Objectivist beliefs, and lost his shit when called on it.
No he didn't. You should really stop making an ass of yourself. Seriously. Go back and reread what he said. Or continue blathering like an idiot.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:13:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:12:07 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:10:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:08:59 PM
...This from the dumbfuck who has resorted to changing people's text without notation.
You dishonest piece of human garbage. I'm not shocked that you have a soft spot for objectivists. They're really your kind of people.
Lie one, there was notation.
Nope. You added bolded text, without mentioning that you added it. You lying sack of shit.
That would be standard notation to mark an edit on the net. Like I said, if you want a different notation tell me and I'll edit it.
You don't actually *have* a preferred notation though, you just want to lie about people you don't like.
Sure I do. The standard is "FIXED", or some variation thereof. You know this.
You just chose to be dishonest, like you always do.
Quote from: Cain on May 26, 2011, 09:14:30 PM
I know Slyph has been reading a lot of Objectivist philosophy lately, and in the thread in question, he suggested that actually Objectivists would find the negligent manslaughter as being "more evil", as the level of "evasion" was greater.
But who are you going to trust, a guy who has been driving himself crazy with Ayn Rand's brainfarts for the past few months and had no reason to take one side over the other, or someone looking to score points in a personal argument?
Requia, obviously. She's an expert on all things. Just ask her.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:15:27 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:13:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:12:07 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:10:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:08:59 PM
...This from the dumbfuck who has resorted to changing people's text without notation.
You dishonest piece of human garbage. I'm not shocked that you have a soft spot for objectivists. They're really your kind of people.
Lie one, there was notation.
Nope. You added bolded text, without mentioning that you added it. You lying sack of shit.
That would be standard notation to mark an edit on the net. Like I said, if you want a different notation tell me and I'll edit it.
You don't actually *have* a preferred notation though, you just want to lie about people you don't like.
Sure I do. The standard is "FIXED", or some variation thereof. You know this.
You just chose to be dishonest, like you always do.
Edit made.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:16:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:15:27 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:13:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:12:07 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:10:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:08:59 PM
...This from the dumbfuck who has resorted to changing people's text without notation.
You dishonest piece of human garbage. I'm not shocked that you have a soft spot for objectivists. They're really your kind of people.
Lie one, there was notation.
Nope. You added bolded text, without mentioning that you added it. You lying sack of shit.
That would be standard notation to mark an edit on the net. Like I said, if you want a different notation tell me and I'll edit it.
You don't actually *have* a preferred notation though, you just want to lie about people you don't like.
Sure I do. The standard is "FIXED", or some variation thereof. You know this.
You just chose to be dishonest, like you always do.
Edit made.
So what? You'd have left it as is, if you weren't called on it.
A liar that gets caught is still a liar. You, for example.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:10:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:08:59 PM
...This from the dumbfuck who has resorted to changing people's text without notation.
You dishonest piece of human garbage. I'm not shocked that you have a soft spot for objectivists. They're really your kind of people.
Lie one, there was notation.
Bullshit.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:13:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:12:07 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:10:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:08:59 PM
...This from the dumbfuck who has resorted to changing people's text without notation.
You dishonest piece of human garbage. I'm not shocked that you have a soft spot for objectivists. They're really your kind of people.
Lie one, there was notation.
Nope. You added bolded text, without mentioning that you added it. You lying sack of shit.
That would be standard notation to mark an edit on the net. Like I said, if you want a different notation tell me and I'll edit it.
You don't actually *have* a preferred notation though, you just want to lie about people you don't like.
No. Bolded text indicates that it is the part you are addressing in your statement, shitneck. Usually when you edit something, you say "fixed" or a derivative thereof.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:16:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:15:27 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:13:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:12:07 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:10:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:08:59 PM
...This from the dumbfuck who has resorted to changing people's text without notation.
You dishonest piece of human garbage. I'm not shocked that you have a soft spot for objectivists. They're really your kind of people.
Lie one, there was notation.
Nope. You added bolded text, without mentioning that you added it. You lying sack of shit.
That would be standard notation to mark an edit on the net. Like I said, if you want a different notation tell me and I'll edit it.
You don't actually *have* a preferred notation though, you just want to lie about people you don't like.
Sure I do. The standard is "FIXED", or some variation thereof. You know this.
You just chose to be dishonest, like you always do.
Edit made.
:retard:
Oh, and go ahead and make your little revenge thread, Requia. :lulz:
This should be good.
Quote from: Cain on May 26, 2011, 09:14:30 PM
I know Slyph has been reading a lot of Objectivist philosophy lately, and in the thread in question, he suggested that actually Objectivists would find the negligent manslaughter as being "more evil", as the level of "evasion" was greater.
But who are you going to trust, a guy who has been driving himself crazy with Ayn Rand's brainfarts for the past few months and had no reason to take one side over the other, or someone looking to score points in a personal argument?
I missed his post. And I don't see anything wrong with his argument. Roger's claim however is that Objectivists believe any act of negligence is the same as attempted murder. There is not, as far as I can tell, any reason for this claim.
I had assumed that there was some part of objectivism I wasn't aware of that led Roger to this, but when I questioned him he immediately lost his shit.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:19:12 PM
Oh, and go ahead and make your little revenge thread, Requia. :lulz:
This should be good.
My revenge thread? You're the one dragging old arguments all over PD.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 26, 2011, 09:14:30 PM
I know Slyph has been reading a lot of Objectivist philosophy lately, and in the thread in question, he suggested that actually Objectivists would find the negligent manslaughter as being "more evil", as the level of "evasion" was greater.
But who are you going to trust, a guy who has been driving himself crazy with Ayn Rand's brainfarts for the past few months and had no reason to take one side over the other, or someone looking to score points in a personal argument?
I missed his post. And I don't see anything wrong with his argument. Roger's claim however is that Objectivists believe any act of negligence is the same as attempted murder. There is not, as far as I can tell, any reason for this claim.
I had assumed that there was some part of objectivism I wasn't aware of that led Roger to this, but when I questioned him he immediately lost his shit.
No, I made fun of you, for being your normal dumbfuck know-it-all self.
So you took a cheap shot at my Grandfather's passing, and fled for a week or so.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:19:55 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:19:12 PM
Oh, and go ahead and make your little revenge thread, Requia. :lulz:
This should be good.
My revenge thread? You're the one dragging old arguments all over PD.
Um, yeah. You can't keep your lies straight for ten minutes, can you?
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:08:49 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:07:51 PM
Misrepresenting my posts, now?
:lol:
You useless piece of shit.
Not in the least. I should really make a thread devoted to all the lies you tell about people you don't like.
:lulz:
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 26, 2011, 09:14:30 PM
I know Slyph has been reading a lot of Objectivist philosophy lately, and in the thread in question, he suggested that actually Objectivists would find the negligent manslaughter as being "more evil", as the level of "evasion" was greater.
But who are you going to trust, a guy who has been driving himself crazy with Ayn Rand's brainfarts for the past few months and had no reason to take one side over the other, or someone looking to score points in a personal argument?
I missed his post. And I don't see anything wrong with his argument. Roger's claim however is that Objectivists believe any act of negligence is the same as attempted murder. There is not, as far as I can tell, any reason for this claim.
Except that "the same", "as bad", "equivalent", "tantamount", etc. are synonymous?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:20:45 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 26, 2011, 09:14:30 PM
I know Slyph has been reading a lot of Objectivist philosophy lately, and in the thread in question, he suggested that actually Objectivists would find the negligent manslaughter as being "more evil", as the level of "evasion" was greater.
But who are you going to trust, a guy who has been driving himself crazy with Ayn Rand's brainfarts for the past few months and had no reason to take one side over the other, or someone looking to score points in a personal argument?
I missed his post. And I don't see anything wrong with his argument. Roger's claim however is that Objectivists believe any act of negligence is the same as attempted murder. There is not, as far as I can tell, any reason for this claim.
I had assumed that there was some part of objectivism I wasn't aware of that led Roger to this, but when I questioned him he immediately lost his shit.
No, I made fun of you, for being your normal dumbfuck know-it-all self.
So you took a cheap shot at my Grandfather's passing, and fled for a week or so.
I still have a hard time believing that dropping the argument while you made plans for a funeral was some horrible cheap shot.
I mean, FFS, its more respectful to be a total asshole and ignore your loss? I must have missed that memo.
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 09:22:46 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 26, 2011, 09:14:30 PM
I know Slyph has been reading a lot of Objectivist philosophy lately, and in the thread in question, he suggested that actually Objectivists would find the negligent manslaughter as being "more evil", as the level of "evasion" was greater.
But who are you going to trust, a guy who has been driving himself crazy with Ayn Rand's brainfarts for the past few months and had no reason to take one side over the other, or someone looking to score points in a personal argument?
I missed his post. And I don't see anything wrong with his argument. Roger's claim however is that Objectivists believe any act of negligence is the same as attempted murder. There is not, as far as I can tell, any reason for this claim.
Except that "the same", "as bad", "equivalent", "tantamount", etc. are synonymous?
Unless you're being pedantic about my use of 'the same' I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:20:45 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 26, 2011, 09:14:30 PM
I know Slyph has been reading a lot of Objectivist philosophy lately, and in the thread in question, he suggested that actually Objectivists would find the negligent manslaughter as being "more evil", as the level of "evasion" was greater.
But who are you going to trust, a guy who has been driving himself crazy with Ayn Rand's brainfarts for the past few months and had no reason to take one side over the other, or someone looking to score points in a personal argument?
I missed his post. And I don't see anything wrong with his argument. Roger's claim however is that Objectivists believe any act of negligence is the same as attempted murder. There is not, as far as I can tell, any reason for this claim.
I had assumed that there was some part of objectivism I wasn't aware of that led Roger to this, but when I questioned him he immediately lost his shit.
No, I made fun of you, for being your normal dumbfuck know-it-all self.
So you took a cheap shot at my Grandfather's passing, and fled for a week or so.
No no, Roger you totally lost your shit. Because you know, when people challenge you, you have to assert your alpha status. Just ask CU. Requia has been, obviously.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:23:02 PM
I still have a hard time believing that dropping the argument while you made plans for a funeral was some horrible cheap shot.
Then maybe you should get your assburgers treated until you can make a simple statement without being incredibly offensive.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:21:57 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:19:55 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:19:12 PM
Oh, and go ahead and make your little revenge thread, Requia. :lulz:
This should be good.
My revenge thread? You're the one dragging old arguments all over PD.
Um, yeah. You can't keep your lies straight for ten minutes, can you?
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:08:49 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:07:51 PM
Misrepresenting my posts, now?
:lol:
You useless piece of shit.
Not in the least. I should really make a thread devoted to all the lies you tell about people you don't like.
:lulz:
Other thread, not this one, right now I'm just responding to other people. But I can see the confusion.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:24:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 09:22:46 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 26, 2011, 09:14:30 PM
I know Slyph has been reading a lot of Objectivist philosophy lately, and in the thread in question, he suggested that actually Objectivists would find the negligent manslaughter as being "more evil", as the level of "evasion" was greater.
But who are you going to trust, a guy who has been driving himself crazy with Ayn Rand's brainfarts for the past few months and had no reason to take one side over the other, or someone looking to score points in a personal argument?
I missed his post. And I don't see anything wrong with his argument. Roger's claim however is that Objectivists believe any act of negligence is the same as attempted murder. There is not, as far as I can tell, any reason for this claim.
Except that "the same", "as bad", "equivalent", "tantamount", etc. are synonymous?
Unless you're being pedantic about my use of 'the same' I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
So.. Man, that Patriot Act. That's some Act, hu? :)
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:25:00 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:21:57 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:19:55 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:19:12 PM
Oh, and go ahead and make your little revenge thread, Requia. :lulz:
This should be good.
My revenge thread? You're the one dragging old arguments all over PD.
Um, yeah. You can't keep your lies straight for ten minutes, can you?
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:08:49 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:07:51 PM
Misrepresenting my posts, now?
:lol:
You useless piece of shit.
Not in the least. I should really make a thread devoted to all the lies you tell about people you don't like.
:lulz:
Other thread, not this one, right now I'm just responding to other people. But I can see the confusion.
Are we speaking the same language? Of course we are. You're just lying non-stop.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:24:46 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:23:02 PM
I still have a hard time believing that dropping the argument while you made plans for a funeral was some horrible cheap shot.
Then maybe you should get your assburgers treated until you can make a simple statement without being incredibly offensive.
Yeah, I've never been very good about how to act when people die, and they don't cover that in the treatment regiment. I would think however, that the actions were pretty clear.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:23:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:20:45 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 26, 2011, 09:14:30 PM
I know Slyph has been reading a lot of Objectivist philosophy lately, and in the thread in question, he suggested that actually Objectivists would find the negligent manslaughter as being "more evil", as the level of "evasion" was greater.
But who are you going to trust, a guy who has been driving himself crazy with Ayn Rand's brainfarts for the past few months and had no reason to take one side over the other, or someone looking to score points in a personal argument?
I missed his post. And I don't see anything wrong with his argument. Roger's claim however is that Objectivists believe any act of negligence is the same as attempted murder. There is not, as far as I can tell, any reason for this claim.
I had assumed that there was some part of objectivism I wasn't aware of that led Roger to this, but when I questioned him he immediately lost his shit.
No, I made fun of you, for being your normal dumbfuck know-it-all self.
So you took a cheap shot at my Grandfather's passing, and fled for a week or so.
I still have a hard time believing that dropping the argument while you made plans for a funeral was some horrible cheap shot.
I mean, FFS, its more respectful to be a total asshole and ignore your loss? I must have missed that memo.
Now you have officially crossed my line. You are a piece of shit.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
So.. Man, that Patriot Act. That's some Act, hu? :)
Sorry, dude. Requia has to SHOW ME.
If ya want, I'll split the thread when the mess is over.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:27:51 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
So.. Man, that Patriot Act. That's some Act, hu? :)
Sorry, dude. Requia has to SHOW ME.
If ya want, I'll split the thread when the mess is over.
I promise to refrain from any accusations of mod abuse if you split the thread right away in this case.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:27:14 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:24:46 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:23:02 PM
I still have a hard time believing that dropping the argument while you made plans for a funeral was some horrible cheap shot.
Then maybe you should get your assburgers treated until you can make a simple statement without being incredibly offensive.
Yeah, I've never been very good about how to act when people die, and they don't cover that in the treatment regiment. I would think however, that the actions were pretty clear.
So, in your world, "YOUR GRANDDAD DIED, AND THAT'S TOO BAD BECAUSE I WAS ENJOYING THIS" is the same as "Sorry about your grandfather".
:lulz:
You really are a worthless bag of skin.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:28:47 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:27:51 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
So.. Man, that Patriot Act. That's some Act, hu? :)
Sorry, dude. Requia has to SHOW ME.
If ya want, I'll split the thread when the mess is over.
I promise to refrain from any accusations of mod abuse if you split the thread right away in this case.
1. Your promises are worthless and
2. So is your opinion.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:27:51 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
So.. Man, that Patriot Act. That's some Act, hu? :)
Sorry, dude. Requia has to SHOW ME.
If ya want, I'll split the thread when the mess is over.
Are you going to split every thread Requia decides to show us all how much smarter than the rest of us it is?
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:24:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 09:22:46 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 26, 2011, 09:14:30 PM
I know Slyph has been reading a lot of Objectivist philosophy lately, and in the thread in question, he suggested that actually Objectivists would find the negligent manslaughter as being "more evil", as the level of "evasion" was greater.
But who are you going to trust, a guy who has been driving himself crazy with Ayn Rand's brainfarts for the past few months and had no reason to take one side over the other, or someone looking to score points in a personal argument?
I missed his post. And I don't see anything wrong with his argument. Roger's claim however is that Objectivists believe any act of negligence is the same as attempted murder. There is not, as far as I can tell, any reason for this claim.
Except that "the same", "as bad", "equivalent", "tantamount", etc. are synonymous?
Unless you're being pedantic about my use of 'the same' I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
Pedantry? :eek:
Roger was saying that Objectivists believe that negligence is a crime tantamount to attempted murder. Short handed in an easily understood way that when a pedantic asshole comes along they could misrepresent it as being one and the same. Everyone but YOU understood what he was saying. Fuck off.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
So.. Man, that Patriot Act. That's some Act, hu? :)
FUCK YOU REQUIA DIED FROM THE PATRIOT ACT!
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 09:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:27:51 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
So.. Man, that Patriot Act. That's some Act, hu? :)
Sorry, dude. Requia has to SHOW ME.
If ya want, I'll split the thread when the mess is over.
Are you going to split every thread Requia decides to show us all how much smarter than the rest of us it is?
That's done by the request of the thread OP.
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 09:30:43 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:24:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 09:22:46 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 26, 2011, 09:14:30 PM
I know Slyph has been reading a lot of Objectivist philosophy lately, and in the thread in question, he suggested that actually Objectivists would find the negligent manslaughter as being "more evil", as the level of "evasion" was greater.
But who are you going to trust, a guy who has been driving himself crazy with Ayn Rand's brainfarts for the past few months and had no reason to take one side over the other, or someone looking to score points in a personal argument?
I missed his post. And I don't see anything wrong with his argument. Roger's claim however is that Objectivists believe any act of negligence is the same as attempted murder. There is not, as far as I can tell, any reason for this claim.
Except that "the same", "as bad", "equivalent", "tantamount", etc. are synonymous?
Unless you're being pedantic about my use of 'the same' I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
Pedantry? :eek:
Roger was saying that Objectivists believe that negligence is a crime tantamount to attempted murder. Short handed in an easily understood way that when a pedantic asshole comes along they could misrepresent it as being one and the same. Everyone but YOU understood what he was saying. Fuck off.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
So.. Man, that Patriot Act. That's some Act, hu? :)
FUCK YOU REQUIA DIED FROM THE PATRIOT ACT!
Ok, so you're being pedantic as fuck, because I didn't use the right words for you.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:32:08 PM
Ok, so you're being pedantic as fuck, because I didn't use the right words for you.
This is like Nixon calling a used-car dealer dishonest.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Ah, psycho stalkers.
I have them.
8)
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:31:13 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 09:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:27:51 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
So.. Man, that Patriot Act. That's some Act, hu? :)
Sorry, dude. Requia has to SHOW ME.
If ya want, I'll split the thread when the mess is over.
Are you going to split every thread Requia decides to show us all how much smarter than the rest of us it is?
That's done by the request of the thread OP.
I smell an Unlimited thread in the near future. :lulz:
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:32:08 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 09:30:43 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:24:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 09:22:46 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 26, 2011, 09:14:30 PM
I know Slyph has been reading a lot of Objectivist philosophy lately, and in the thread in question, he suggested that actually Objectivists would find the negligent manslaughter as being "more evil", as the level of "evasion" was greater.
But who are you going to trust, a guy who has been driving himself crazy with Ayn Rand's brainfarts for the past few months and had no reason to take one side over the other, or someone looking to score points in a personal argument?
I missed his post. And I don't see anything wrong with his argument. Roger's claim however is that Objectivists believe any act of negligence is the same as attempted murder. There is not, as far as I can tell, any reason for this claim.
Except that "the same", "as bad", "equivalent", "tantamount", etc. are synonymous?
Unless you're being pedantic about my use of 'the same' I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
Pedantry? :eek:
Roger was saying that Objectivists believe that negligence is a crime tantamount to attempted murder. Short handed in an easily understood way that when a pedantic asshole comes along they could misrepresent it as being one and the same. Everyone but YOU understood what he was saying. Fuck off.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
So.. Man, that Patriot Act. That's some Act, hu? :)
FUCK YOU REQUIA DIED FROM THE PATRIOT ACT!
Ok, so you're being pedantic as fuck, because I didn't use the right words for you.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
I GOT CALLED PEDANTIC BY REQUIA! DOES THIS MEAN I WIN THE INTERBUTTS!?
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 09:33:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:31:13 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 09:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:27:51 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
So.. Man, that Patriot Act. That's some Act, hu? :)
Sorry, dude. Requia has to SHOW ME.
If ya want, I'll split the thread when the mess is over.
Are you going to split every thread Requia decides to show us all how much smarter than the rest of us it is?
That's done by the request of the thread OP.
I smell an Unlimited thread in the near future. :lulz:
Not by me. I'm involved.
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 09:34:08 PM
I GOT CALLED PEDANTIC BY REQUIA! DOES THIS MEAN I WIN THE INTERBUTTS!?
You should put it in your sig, link included, for posterity. That's some achievement. :lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:34:25 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 09:33:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:31:13 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 09:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:27:51 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
So.. Man, that Patriot Act. That's some Act, hu? :)
Sorry, dude. Requia has to SHOW ME.
If ya want, I'll split the thread when the mess is over.
Are you going to split every thread Requia decides to show us all how much smarter than the rest of us it is?
That's done by the request of the thread OP.
I smell an Unlimited thread in the near future. :lulz:
Not by me. I'm involved.
I'd just like to say I have a fuckton of respect for you, solely based on this issue.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:35:10 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 09:34:08 PM
I GOT CALLED PEDANTIC BY REQUIA! DOES THIS MEAN I WIN THE INTERBUTTS!?
You should put it in your sig, link included, for posterity. That's some achievement. :lulz:
Done. :lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:33:20 PM
Ah, psycho stalkers.
I have them.
8)
Only because you play with them. It's like a scab, if you keep picking at it, it'll never go away.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:35:50 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:34:25 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 09:33:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:31:13 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 09:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:27:51 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
So.. Man, that Patriot Act. That's some Act, hu? :)
Sorry, dude. Requia has to SHOW ME.
If ya want, I'll split the thread when the mess is over.
Are you going to split every thread Requia decides to show us all how much smarter than the rest of us it is?
That's done by the request of the thread OP.
I smell an Unlimited thread in the near future. :lulz:
Not by me. I'm involved.
I'd just like to say I have a fuckton of respect for you, solely based on this issue.
Yeah...I just bet he sleeps better tonight knowing that.
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 09:40:46 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:35:50 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:34:25 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 09:33:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:31:13 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 09:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:27:51 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
So.. Man, that Patriot Act. That's some Act, hu? :)
Sorry, dude. Requia has to SHOW ME.
If ya want, I'll split the thread when the mess is over.
Are you going to split every thread Requia decides to show us all how much smarter than the rest of us it is?
That's done by the request of the thread OP.
I smell an Unlimited thread in the near future. :lulz:
Not by me. I'm involved.
I'd just like to say I have a fuckton of respect for you, solely based on this issue.
Yeah...I just bet he sleeps better tonight knowing that.
I very much doubt he gives a shit, I just felt it should be said.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:35:50 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:34:25 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 09:33:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:31:13 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 09:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:27:51 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
So.. Man, that Patriot Act. That's some Act, hu? :)
Sorry, dude. Requia has to SHOW ME.
If ya want, I'll split the thread when the mess is over.
Are you going to split every thread Requia decides to show us all how much smarter than the rest of us it is?
That's done by the request of the thread OP.
I smell an Unlimited thread in the near future. :lulz:
Not by me. I'm involved.
I'd just like to say I have a fuckton of respect for you, solely based on this issue.
I'd just like to say, I'd piss on you if you were on fire. I'd also relight the fire if it went out.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:27:51 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
So.. Man, that Patriot Act. That's some Act, hu? :)
Sorry, dude. Requia has to SHOW ME.
If ya want, I'll split the thread when the mess is over.
meh, it's clear the whole "even a clock is right twice a day" vibe I expected this to turn into, isn't. I thought it was fairly significant that the only guy fighting to even discuss that abomination of a misnamed law also happens to be a Republican. It is refreshing to hear one put his money where his mouth is on the freedom issue, even if he was standing alone. (well, with a few other Repubs and Dems)
You guys have at it. In the spirit of trying to not take myself so srsly, I'm going to go make some WOMPables of my mug.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 09:47:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:27:51 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
So.. Man, that Patriot Act. That's some Act, hu? :)
Sorry, dude. Requia has to SHOW ME.
If ya want, I'll split the thread when the mess is over.
meh, it's clear the whole "even a clock is right twice a day" vibe I expected this to turn into, isn't. I thought it was fairly significant that the only guy fighting to even discuss that abomination of a misnamed law also happens to be a Republican. It is refreshing to hear one put his money where his mouth is on the freedom issue, even if he was standing alone. (well, with a few other Repubs and Dems)
You guys have at it. In the spirit of trying to not take myself so srsly, I'm going to go make some WOMPables of my mug.
MEh, about two months ago I stopped hearing words from politicians. Just animal sounds. It makes sense, really.
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 09:50:08 PM
MEh, about two months ago I stopped hearing words from politicians. Just animal sounds. It makes sense, really.
Which animal for which politician? Or are they all the same?
Quote from: Luna on May 26, 2011, 09:51:03 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 09:50:08 PM
MEh, about two months ago I stopped hearing words from politicians. Just animal sounds. It makes sense, really.
Which animal for which politician? Or are they all the same?
The Jackass.
Quote from: Luna on May 26, 2011, 09:51:03 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 09:50:08 PM
MEh, about two months ago I stopped hearing words from politicians. Just animal sounds. It makes sense, really.
Which animal for which politician? Or are they all the same?
Bleats and sqawks. Non-specific. :lulz:
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 09:53:26 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 26, 2011, 09:51:03 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 09:50:08 PM
MEh, about two months ago I stopped hearing words from politicians. Just animal sounds. It makes sense, really.
Which animal for which politician? Or are they all the same?
The Jackass.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Ok so, I hate to drag an old argument into a new thread, but I can't find the last thread that this one was dragged into.
On the temporary banning of Roger in IRC:
While I still believe you were spamming, and both deserved and needed to be banned, I should never have taken it upon myself to make that decision because I was involved, and being involved I can't trust my judgment on the matter.
So, I apologize for it.
Quote from: Luna on May 26, 2011, 09:40:01 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:33:20 PM
Ah, psycho stalkers.
I have them.
8)
Only because you play with them. It's like a scab, if you keep picking at it, it'll never go away.
Nah, it'll just leave a gnarly scar. Check some of these out!
As long as I'm on the subject, I should have had the 'Fixed' in the mock quote from the beginning.
My ice water business in Hell just went to complete shit due to a cold front. :lulz:
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 09:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:27:51 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
So.. Man, that Patriot Act. That's some Act, hu? :)
Sorry, dude. Requia has to SHOW ME.
If ya want, I'll split the thread when the mess is over.
Are you going to split every thread Requia decides to show us all how much smarter than the rest of us it is?
I'm thinking an unlimited Requia pedantry thread is just about due, considering the way the back and forth tends to derail thread after thread.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 09:47:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:27:51 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
So.. Man, that Patriot Act. That's some Act, hu? :)
Sorry, dude. Requia has to SHOW ME.
If ya want, I'll split the thread when the mess is over.
meh, it's clear the whole "even a clock is right twice a day" vibe I expected this to turn into, isn't. I thought it was fairly significant that the only guy fighting to even discuss that abomination of a misnamed law also happens to be a Republican. It is refreshing to hear one put his money where his mouth is on the freedom issue, even if he was standing alone. (well, with a few other Repubs and Dems)
You guys have at it. In the spirit of trying to not take myself so srsly, I'm going to go make some WOMPables of my mug.
Well, the Repub in question was a Paul, and apparently Rand has more of his dad in him than I had thought.
Not really all that shocking when you look at it with a bit more complexity than just Left vs Right.
It's easy to take noble but doomed and utterly futile political positions once a fix is already in.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:24:02 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 26, 2011, 08:22:07 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:20:40 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 08:18:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:16:57 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 26, 2011, 08:14:43 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:13:56 PM
I fear that I may have offended DP. :sad:
I don't know why, you only spoke the truth.
That doesn't make you popular at parties, I hear, nor with cultists.
On the other hand, I view the Ron/Rand Paul cultists as basically being unable to think, so I just tend to avoid them at parties, anyway (they never answer questions, they just recite their party ideology when questioned. No fun at all.).
We should start the Constitution Emeritus Party.
Fuck no. We'd be coopted by the religious nuts in DAYS. Go look at the Constitution Party's website, to see what I mean.
How about the "Hoodlums for Hire" party?
Or "We're just here for the free drinks" party, or the "Laughing All The Way Down" party?
"Nigel for Empress" party?
ARE YOU MAD?
She doesn't NEED a party. She'll just fold up the universe when she's good and ready.
:lulz:
Quote from: Cain on May 27, 2011, 03:40:30 AM
It's easy to take noble but doomed and utterly futile political positions once a fix is already in.
The Pauls are both good at that.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on May 26, 2011, 08:46:50 PM
Obviously, we are Not Nice People.
Discordia Is Not Nice At All.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 27, 2011, 03:43:40 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 27, 2011, 03:40:30 AM
It's easy to take noble but doomed and utterly futile political positions once a fix is already in.
The Pauls are both good at that.
Yeah. Very good indeed.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:08:49 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 09:07:51 PM
Misrepresenting my posts, now?
:lol:
You useless piece of shit.
Not in the least. I should really make a thread devoted to all the lies you tell about people you don't like.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4121/4778825839_29ecf402aa.jpg)
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:32:08 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 09:30:43 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:24:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 09:22:46 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 26, 2011, 09:14:30 PM
I know Slyph has been reading a lot of Objectivist philosophy lately, and in the thread in question, he suggested that actually Objectivists would find the negligent manslaughter as being "more evil", as the level of "evasion" was greater.
But who are you going to trust, a guy who has been driving himself crazy with Ayn Rand's brainfarts for the past few months and had no reason to take one side over the other, or someone looking to score points in a personal argument?
I missed his post. And I don't see anything wrong with his argument. Roger's claim however is that Objectivists believe any act of negligence is the same as attempted murder. There is not, as far as I can tell, any reason for this claim.
Except that "the same", "as bad", "equivalent", "tantamount", etc. are synonymous?
Unless you're being pedantic about my use of 'the same' I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
Pedantry? :eek:
Roger was saying that Objectivists believe that negligence is a crime tantamount to attempted murder. Short handed in an easily understood way that when a pedantic asshole comes along they could misrepresent it as being one and the same. Everyone but YOU understood what he was saying. Fuck off.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on May 26, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
So.. Man, that Patriot Act. That's some Act, hu? :)
FUCK YOU REQUIA DIED FROM THE PATRIOT ACT!
Ok, so you're being pedantic as fuck, because I didn't use the right words for you.
That right there is PURE COMEDY GOLD. :lulz:
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:55:01 PM
Ok so, I hate to drag an old argument into a new thread, but I can't find the last thread that this one was dragged into.
On the temporary banning of Roger in IRC:
While I still believe you were spamming, and both deserved and needed to be banned, I should never have taken it upon myself to make that decision because I was involved, and being involved I can't trust my judgment on the matter.
So, I apologize for it.
Requia you really should be proud. Some people aspire, nay,
DREAM of being as big of an assshat you are. Fuck, you can derail a thread with a single post. I could give myself a hernia trying to reach your levels of Autism.
P.S.
Go to your profile and click on "Show last posts". If you cant find it there go to Apple Talk and make a thread titled "ATTN:Roger/PD Im an enormous chode please rape my face" instead of derailing a perfectly good and rather interesting thread.
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on May 27, 2011, 04:50:04 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 09:55:01 PM
Ok so, I hate to drag an old argument into a new thread, but I can't find the last thread that this one was dragged into.
On the temporary banning of Roger in IRC:
While I still believe you were spamming, and both deserved and needed to be banned, I should never have taken it upon myself to make that decision because I was involved, and being involved I can't trust my judgment on the matter.
So, I apologize for it.
Requia you really should be proud. Some people aspire, nay, DREAM of being as big of an assshat you are. Fuck, you can derail a thread with a single post. I could give myself a hernia trying to reach your levels of Autism.
P.S.
Go to your profile and click on "Show last posts". If you cant find it there go to Apple Talk and make a thread titled "ATTN:Roger/PD Im an enormous chode please rape my face" instead of derailing a perfectly good and rather interesting thread.
This.
But it's the only attention it gets, anymore, so it does this shit on purpose.
The difference between Internet Assburgers and Aspergers Syndrome is that people with Aspergers Syndrome, while sometimes clueless, actually care about other people's feelings.