Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: LMNO on June 03, 2011, 03:11:29 PM

Title: Goodnight, sweet prince.
Post by: LMNO on June 03, 2011, 03:11:29 PM
Jack Kevorkian died. (http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20110603/NEWS-US-KEVORKIAN/?cid=hero_media)

It doesn't say whether or not he offed himself.
Title: Re: Goodnight, sweet prince.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 03, 2011, 03:12:40 PM
 :lulz:
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Post by: Adios on June 03, 2011, 03:17:58 PM
Doesn't seem to be any indication that he did.
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Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on June 03, 2011, 03:19:52 PM
Damn. 
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Post by: Jenne on June 03, 2011, 03:24:37 PM
Not too long after those HBO movies about his life, either.
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Post by: Adios on June 03, 2011, 03:25:51 PM
Say what you will about him, he took what he believed in to the line, and beyond.
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Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 03, 2011, 03:29:53 PM
As an Oregonian, in a state which was an early adopter of compassionate assisted suicide laws, forgive me for grieving instead of celebrating this kind and compassionate man's death. For his work, my uncle Jerry might not have chosen to drown himself alone in a pool in Vegas when faced with his terminal carcinoma.
Title: Re: Goodnight, sweet prince.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 03, 2011, 03:31:24 PM
I am so glad he lived a long life and made so many changes in the world. He was barely a year older than my father.
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Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 03, 2011, 03:38:56 PM
Those of you, my friends, who haven't lost many loved ones to terminal disease, might not understand the depth of the kindness that he fought for. But, if you trust me, I can only assure you that he was an angel of mercy in the truest sense of the word. He made it possible for my friends in the most uninterpretable of pain to say goodbye and leave life with honor, and spared them weeks or months of horrific suffering. I bless the man, and his work.

Title: Re: Goodnight, sweet prince.
Post by: Adios on June 03, 2011, 03:40:36 PM
I'm with Nigel on this one.
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Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 03, 2011, 03:41:56 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on June 03, 2011, 03:40:36 PM
I'm with Nigel on this one.
<3
Title: Re: Goodnight, sweet prince.
Post by: LMNO on June 03, 2011, 03:42:12 PM
No argument here.  Guy did good work.
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Post by: Eater of Clowns on June 03, 2011, 03:42:23 PM
Yeah, I have to say even though I was a kid when his controversy was going on and his work was described to me (by a Catholic mother who demonized it) I can recall thinking "Well what's wrong with that?"
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Post by: Luna on June 03, 2011, 03:42:29 PM
Truth, Nigel.

If, may all that's holy or unholy forbid, I have reason to decide to check out early, having someone ensure that I don't fuck it up would be, IMHO, a good thing.
Title: Re: Goodnight, sweet prince.
Post by: Suu on June 03, 2011, 03:47:29 PM
I never once thought assisted suicide was a bad thing. If we put our beloved pets down when they're suffering, I mean, why NOT a human? I know that's a terrible comparison, but I would have much rather my grandfather had the option to go on his own terms than suffer in extreme pain under so many drugs he didn't know who he was to the very end and make my mother's life a wreck.
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Post by: Jenne on June 03, 2011, 04:14:38 PM
I think you're amongst friends here, Nigel.  The man was a pioneer for the right to die.  Thank you for pointing out his great work and the impact he made on our freedoms here in the US.  I mean, the guy went to jail as a senior citizen because of what he believed in.
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Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 03, 2011, 04:18:09 PM
Dunno.  I've always been on the side of the right to die, but I've seen Dr Kervorkian in interviews, and there was a quality to him that really creeped me out.  He got a little glaze over his eyes when he discussed his work, like he was getting an inappropriate charge out of it.

Yeah, that's subjective as hell, but that's the impression I got.
Title: Re: Goodnight, sweet prince.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 03, 2011, 04:23:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 03, 2011, 04:18:09 PM
Dunno.  I've always been on the side of the right to die, but I've seen Dr Kervorkian in interviews, and there was a quality to him that really creeped me out.  He got a little glaze over his eyes when he discussed his work, like he was getting an inappropriate charge out of it.

Yeah, that's subjective as hell, but that's the impression I got.

Honestly, I don't know if it's possible to do that kind of work and stay completely sane. I do not doubt for a second that he had to move into a transcendent space in order to be able to move through it, creepy as it may be to those of us who don't work with death. Everyone I know who works with death has that quality. It's disquieting, and I don't think I am able to do that work.
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Post by: Jenne on June 03, 2011, 04:36:38 PM
He was, after watching the making of the Pacino film and the HBO documentary, a "character."  Irascible, dry wit, and yeah, a bit of a fanatic.  But anyone who sacrifices his life for his beliefs is a fanatic as it is.  So it's to be expected.
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Post by: Jasper on June 03, 2011, 09:24:12 PM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 03, 2011, 04:23:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 03, 2011, 04:18:09 PM
Dunno.  I've always been on the side of the right to die, but I've seen Dr Kervorkian in interviews, and there was a quality to him that really creeped me out.  He got a little glaze over his eyes when he discussed his work, like he was getting an inappropriate charge out of it.

Yeah, that's subjective as hell, but that's the impression I got.

Honestly, I don't know if it's possible to do that kind of work and stay completely sane. I do not doubt for a second that he had to move into a transcendent space in order to be able to move through it, creepy as it may be to those of us who don't work with death. Everyone I know who works with death has that quality. It's disquieting, and I don't think I am able to do that work.

Especially after being made a pariah for it.
Title: Re: Goodnight, sweet prince.
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 03, 2011, 09:28:37 PM
Yeah. I'm with the "This Guy Did Great Work" crew. After watching my grandparents suffer for years and years . . . I don't know if they would have accepted Assisted Suicide as an option, but I know that there are people out there who would go for it in lieu of seemingly endless pain without chance of healing or hope.

Pass in peace, Jack.
Title: Re: Goodnight, sweet prince.
Post by: Elder Iptuous on June 04, 2011, 05:42:15 AM
thinking on it, i don't know if i've ever had any friends that have come out against the guy...
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Post by: East Coast Hustle on June 04, 2011, 04:58:07 PM
I still can't bring myself to speak rationally and eloquently about the subject, but just for the record I will punch the fucking mouth off of anyone IRL who tries to argue against the right to die. Kevorkian is a fucking saint, and it doesn't fucking MATTER how he comes across on TV or any stupid shit like that. Ain't anybody here done anything 1/100th as worthwhile as that guy.