Anyone else hear that horrible double "thump" as Pelosi and her lackeys threw Anthony Weiner under the bus?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110612/ap_on_go_co/us_congressman_twitter_photo
QuoteThat announcement came right after House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of California and Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the national party head, said Weiner must go.
Weiner said at news conference last Monday acknowledged that he had lied in previously saying that he had not sent any photos. Pelosi immediately called for an ethics committee investigation. But it was not until the weekend that leaders said he should step down.
Hoyer said the ethics committee process to decide if Weiner had committed an expellable offense would take time and "I really don't know if we have that time." He said he didn't see how Weiner could stay in office.
Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., said Weiner should resign. "We've got important work to do and this is a ridiculous distraction," he said in an appearance with Hoyer on "Face the Nation" on CBs.
The dems now have a stated policy of throwing to the wolves any member who shows a moment of weakness, or comes under attack.
:lulz:
Boehner is probably weeping with laughter.
Heh, this is all grandstanding. Bet you this entire controversy has knocked "US expands war in Yemen" and "Yemen slides into civil war" and "Libya conflict now costing more than expected, oh, and its still illegal for the US to be involved" and "US debt ceiling wont be raised - you're all fucked" off the front pages though.
Anything to keep Weiner on the front pages. The bread's all but run out, but by god the media and Pelosi still know how to provide a circus.
Quote from: Cain on June 12, 2011, 05:19:42 PM
Heh, this is all grandstanding. Bet you this entire controversy has knocked "US expands war in Yemen" and "Yemen slides into civil war" and "Libya conflict now costing more than expected, oh, and its still illegal for the US to be involved" and "US debt ceiling wont be raised - you're all fucked" off the front pages though.
Anything to keep Weiner on the front pages. The bread's all but run out, but by god the media and Pelosi still know how to provide a circus.
This is dead on. Weiner is at best page 6 stuff with everything else going on.
Now the dems are apparently LOOKING for their own to purge for substandard morals.
Seems a freshman congressman by the name of Mark Cusack got caught having a little cloakroom nookie with a female staffer of another representative.
And they're going to publicly bastinado him for it.
Well, purging worked so well for the Republicans, after all.... :lol:
Quote from: Cain on June 12, 2011, 06:40:22 PM
Well, purging worked so well for the Republicans, after all.... :lol:
It's like the starting bell goes off at a boxing match, and both boxers start kicking the shit out of themselves instead of each other. :lulz:
I'm sure this will make all the "moral values" voters now rush to support the Democrats.
No, really.
:lulz:
Quote from: Cain on June 12, 2011, 06:47:50 PM
I'm sure this will make all the "moral values" voters now rush to support the Democrats.
No, really.
:lulz:
Is there fucking lead in the plumbing in Washington, or something? These fuckwits honestly believe they can kiss arse their way into a majority.
Of course, they still did it when they HAD a majority, so maybe they just like the taste of ass.
Yeah, the Dems are now totally devoid of any sort of political strategy.
Also http://www.juancole.com/2011/06/top-things-anthony-weiner-has-said-that-are-worse-than-sexting.html
But he showed his pee-pee to adult ladies on Twitter!
Wait, one's called Boehner and the other Weiner??? Those shapeshifting reptiles need to fucking grow up.
Those are their actual names. :lulz:
Quote from: Triple Zero on June 12, 2011, 07:16:49 PM
Wait, one's called Boehner and the other Weiner??? Those shapeshifting reptiles need to fucking grow up.
Don't forget Bush, former VP Dick and the infamous Santorum.
Weiner / Boehner 2012
★ ★ ★ "Going balls deep for America." ★ ★ ★
PAID ADVERTISEMENT BY 3RD GRADERS FOR A FUNNIER TOMORROW
Quote from: ☄ · · · N E T · · · ☄ on June 12, 2011, 08:18:54 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on June 12, 2011, 07:16:49 PM
Wait, one's called Boehner and the other Weiner??? Those shapeshifting reptiles need to fucking grow up.
Don't forget Bush, former VP Dick and the infamous Santorum.
Weiner / Boehner 2012
★ ★ ★ "Going balls deep for America." ★ ★ ★
PAID ADVERTISEMENT BY 3RD GRADERS FOR A FUNNIER TOMORROW
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: Cain on June 12, 2011, 05:19:42 PM
Heh, this is all grandstanding. Bet you this entire controversy has knocked "US expands war in Yemen" and "Yemen slides into civil war" and "Libya conflict now costing more than expected, oh, and its still illegal for the US to be involved" and "US debt ceiling wont be raised - you're all fucked" off the front pages though.
Anything to keep Weiner on the front pages. The bread's all but run out, but by god the media and Pelosi still know how to provide a circus.
Sorry to ruin the joke, but wouldn't raising the debt ceiling be worse than the alternative? Feel feel to correct me, that's why I'm here.
If the debt ceiling isn't raised, the U.S. will default on its debt.
The ensuing economic calamity will make the 08 recession look like a mild headache.
But raising it won't make the problem worse eventually?
Possibly, but eventually isn't right now so it's less of a concern?
^ I have no idea if that's true, just seems to be the way this country rolls.
"my account was hacked" is the new "the dog ate my homework" for dumb asses who send out picks of their junk and get caught.
Not only is he an idiot for doing it, but doing it wrong, and then lying about it for a week and assuming anyone with even average intelligence would believe that story.
I don't see why the Dems would WANT to be associated with the guy after all of that.
Quote from: Eve on June 13, 2011, 02:27:08 PM
Possibly, but eventually isn't right now so it's less of a concern?
^ I have no idea if that's true, just seems to be the way this country rolls.
that line of thought is precisely the cause of the problems, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future.
Quote from: Risus on June 13, 2011, 02:20:33 PM
But raising it won't make the problem worse eventually?
Yes, eventually, but the US has painted itself into a corner and the problem is going to get worse no matter what they do. Defaulting on the debt is probably the worst out of several bad options.
I think the debt ceiling will be raised. The Republicans will agree to raise it in exchange for the Democrats agreeing to some token spending cuts, everyone will go home to their constituents and say, "We did our best. Re-elect us so we can finish the job.", and the extend-and-pretend game will continue.
Quote from: ☄ · · · N E T · · · ☄ on June 12, 2011, 08:18:54 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on June 12, 2011, 07:16:49 PM
Wait, one's called Boehner and the other Weiner??? Those shapeshifting reptiles need to fucking grow up.
Don't forget Bush, former VP Dick and the infamous Santorum.
Weiner / Boehner 2012
★ ★ ★ "Going balls deep for America." ★ ★ ★
PAID ADVERTISEMENT BY 3RD GRADERS FOR A FUNNIER TOMORROW
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: Disco Pickle on June 13, 2011, 02:28:05 PM
"my account was hacked" is the new "the dog ate my homework
WELL SAID
Quote from: Disco Pickle on June 13, 2011, 02:30:20 PM
Quote from: Eve on June 13, 2011, 02:27:08 PM
Possibly, but eventually isn't right now so it's less of a concern?
^ I have no idea if that's true, just seems to be the way this country rolls.
that line of thought is precisely the cause of the problems, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future.
But it's worked so well in the past! :roll: Same sad people making the same sad decisions. Occasionally with fancy new names.
Depends if you want the Financapocalypse now or later.
If the US defaults, everything goes to shit, NOW. Seen Greece? Imagine that in a country with severe ethnic tensions, a polity influenced towards violence and lots of small arms.
If the US raises its debt ceiling, it allows the international shell game of global political economy to continue. Beijing and Frankfurt have too much invested in DC, right now, to want any status quo changes. And they will fight tooth and nail to maintain things this way. But if the US cannot legally borrow...
Of course it's only putting off the day of reckoning. But are any of you prepared for the above scenario starting August 3rd? Doubt it.
Quote from: Risus on June 13, 2011, 02:20:33 PM
But raising it won't make the problem worse eventually?
Not if we actually start paying down the debt. If we default on it that's really really bad for our economy. Raising the debt ceiling gives us the option to pay it off. If we go on to default later, yes, that is worse than defaulting now.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 13, 2011, 05:54:16 PM
Quote from: Risus on June 13, 2011, 02:20:33 PM
But raising it won't make the problem worse eventually?
Not if we actually start paying down the debt.
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
The thing is, if the US defaults now, it is fucked. If it defaults later, it is fucked. The only real difference is when you do want to be fucked?
In my case, always later. I have a headache now. No fucking for me.
Quote from: Cramulus on June 13, 2011, 02:43:34 PMQuote from: Disco Pickle on June 13, 2011, 02:28:05 PM
"my account was hacked" is the new "the dog ate my homework
WELL SAID
Everybody knows you should open your half-finished MS Word .doc file in Notepad, bash some random characters in the header and here and there halfway through, in order to corrupt it, save it and send that in. Buys you at least another two days after the deadline.
Triple Zero,
sometimes wished he was born a few years later
Quote from: Cain on June 13, 2011, 05:27:19 PM
Of course it's only putting off the day of reckoning. But are any of you prepared for the above scenario starting August 3rd? Doubt it.
OFUK :aww:
But being prepared in what way, for what situation exactly? Like the "Crazy Prepared" survivalist thread fending off hordes of screaming savages? Or just having as much savings as possible, in the right sort of valuta that'll be actually still worth something?
Quote from: Triple Zero on June 13, 2011, 06:03:32 PM
But being prepared in what way, for what situation exactly? Like the "Crazy Prepared" survivalist thread fending off hordes of screaming savages? Or just having as much savings as possible, in the right sort of valuta that'll be actually still worth something?
The immediate consequences would be the cost of borrowing money will rise. This will put a squeeze on the middle and lower classes. Along with rises in food prices, you rapidly enter an equation where people will be struggling to pay for basic essentials.
The next step will be riots. Maybe Egypt style, but probably closer to Syria in style, given US social fragmentation, acceptable discourses of violence and availability of weapons.
It's not a given the US will actually default, the more I think about it. But the cost borrowing will rise, and the US will have to pay off debts, which will in effect lead to the same kind of structual readjustment beloved of the IMF. Not that this is necessarily a good thing. The former Chief Economist of the World Bank can take you through the steps (http://www.skeptically.org/wto/id6.html).
Quote from: Cain on June 13, 2011, 06:02:21 PM
The thing is, if the US defaults now, it is fucked. If it defaults later, it is fucked. The only real difference is when you do want to be fucked?
In my case, always later. I have a headache now. No fucking for me.
So, what sort of things should someone do to prepare for this inevitable fuckery?
Quote from: Risus on June 13, 2011, 07:44:43 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 13, 2011, 06:02:21 PM
The thing is, if the US defaults now, it is fucked. If it defaults later, it is fucked. The only real difference is when you do want to be fucked?
In my case, always later. I have a headache now. No fucking for me.
So, what sort of things should someone do to prepare for this inevitable fuckery?
Tribe up, get a group of friends that you can rely on and make sure there is a mix of skills that will cover what you need to survive and thrive.
going survivalist wont work because the government will still be around to take your guns. You just want to be off their radar as much as possible.
Canned food and bottled water will help you weather the price rises and reduce your need to go out (and can still be used in the event I'm wrong).
A good security system and decent gun wont hurt either.
Quote from: Cain on June 13, 2011, 08:07:53 PM
Canned food and bottled water will help you weather the price rises and reduce your need to go out (and can still be used in the event I'm wrong).
A good security system and decent gun wont hurt either.
It's also a good idea to eat what you store in order to avoid your body reacting to diet changes. If you do this it will allow you to rotate your stock to keep it fresher longer.
The Mormons did have one or two good ideas.
Fuck that. I'm going to play with the other kids in the ruins until someone eats me.
TGRR,
Will not live in a world without painless dentistry and food on demand.
Bill Maher And Jane Lynch Perform A Dramatic Reading Of Anthony Weiner's Dirty Texts
http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-bill-maher-and-jane-lynch-perform-a-dramatic-reading-of-anthony-weiners/
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Yeah, that was pretty awesome to watch this past weekend. Also made me wonder what SNL would've done for an opening sketch on it.
http://whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/13/obama-on-weiner-i-would-resign/
Obama weighs in.
Did Obama ask David Vitter to resign? Refresh my memory here.
I don't recall, but he's a Republican anyway. Not sure anyone from the Red Side would give a shit what Obama said about them.
No, but it is more proof the Democrats are incapable of anything but eating their own.
Quote from: Cain on June 14, 2011, 07:05:33 PM
No, but it is more proof the Democrats are incapable of anything but eating their own.
:potd:
Quote from: Cain on June 14, 2011, 07:00:07 PM
http://whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/13/obama-on-weiner-i-would-resign/
Obama weighs in.
Did Obama ask David Vitter to resign? Refresh my memory here.
Vitter's thing broke in 07 before Obama was POTUS.
There were isolated calls from some Repubs to censor him, and the Democratic Party of LA called for him to step down.
I think the fact that the Madame visits happened nearly a decade before the names were released probably had something to do with people shrugging it off.
That's been the criticism on Pelosi et al who've publicly called for him to step down. That they're throwing him under the bus so that they can do business with the Republicans. WHO, as we know, DO NOT ask for their OWN to step down. EVAR. Just the Democrats. And so the Democratic establishment nods and does so.
Jeanine Garafalo bitched out the two media whores on Maher's show about that very thing on Friday night--saying if the media laid off Weiner's wiener, then there'd be more business done and more highlighting of shit THAT MATTERED.
But media whores hate hearing they're DOING IT WRONG.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on June 14, 2011, 07:10:46 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 14, 2011, 07:00:07 PM
http://whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/13/obama-on-weiner-i-would-resign/
Obama weighs in.
Did Obama ask David Vitter to resign? Refresh my memory here.
Vitter's thing broke in 07 before Obama was POTUS.
There were isolated calls from some Repubs to censor him, and the Democratic Party of LA called for him to step down.
I think the fact that the Madame visits happened nearly a decade before the names were released probably had something to do with people shrugging it off.
Key word there, and never the establishment.
Quote from: Jenne on June 14, 2011, 07:11:57 PM
But media whores hate hearing they're DOING IT WRONG.
From a ratings POV, they're doing it right.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2011, 07:13:13 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 14, 2011, 07:11:57 PM
But media whores hate hearing they're DOING IT WRONG.
From a ratings POV, they're doing it right.
Yeah, but get them to ADMIT that.
Quote from: Jenne on June 14, 2011, 07:11:57 PM
That's been the criticism on Pelosi et al who've publicly called for him to step down. That they're throwing him under the bus so that they can do business with the Republicans. WHO, as we know, DO NOT ask for their OWN to step down. EVAR. Just the Democrats. And so the Democratic establishment nods and does so.
Jeanine Garafalo bitched out the two media whores on Maher's show about that very thing on Friday night--saying if the media laid off Weiner's wiener, then there'd be more business done and more highlighting of shit THAT MATTERED.
But media whores hate hearing they're DOING IT WRONG.
I think had Chris Lee not voluntarily resigned, you'd have heard calls from the establishment repubs to step down.
You just can't survive something like that and remain a sitting republican in any level of office, much less get re-elected.
Quote from: Jenne on June 14, 2011, 07:13:49 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2011, 07:13:13 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 14, 2011, 07:11:57 PM
But media whores hate hearing they're DOING IT WRONG.
From a ratings POV, they're doing it right.
Yeah, but get them to ADMIT that.
Jeez. Peel back the vinyl, why doncha?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2011, 07:24:30 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 14, 2011, 07:13:49 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2011, 07:13:13 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 14, 2011, 07:11:57 PM
But media whores hate hearing they're DOING IT WRONG.
From a ratings POV, they're doing it right.
Yeah, but get them to ADMIT that.
Jeez. Peel back the vinyl, why doncha?
Yeah, I just get sick of seeing them on shows like Maher's and Stewart's, pretending they're NOT the ones perpetuating the idiocies. Fox News's schtick is NOW THE NORM. THE NORM.
So fuck those guys. The bloggers, the huffpos and yes, even Slate.com. The only thing they're winning is ratings. Big fucking deal.
Rome's burning. And they're roasting wienies on the flames.
Literally.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on June 14, 2011, 07:17:16 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 14, 2011, 07:11:57 PM
That's been the criticism on Pelosi et al who've publicly called for him to step down. That they're throwing him under the bus so that they can do business with the Republicans. WHO, as we know, DO NOT ask for their OWN to step down. EVAR. Just the Democrats. And so the Democratic establishment nods and does so.
Jeanine Garafalo bitched out the two media whores on Maher's show about that very thing on Friday night--saying if the media laid off Weiner's wiener, then there'd be more business done and more highlighting of shit THAT MATTERED.
But media whores hate hearing they're DOING IT WRONG.
I think had Chris Lee not voluntarily resigned, you'd have heard calls from the establishment repubs to step down.
You just can't survive something like that and remain a sitting republican in any level of office, much less get re-elected.
I think Republicans are BETTER at making discreet offers that can't be refused in backrooms and dark corners of the legislature. Democrats with their false sense of moral superiority and idiotic spiel about transparency just end up looking ungainly and unwieldly with their power structure. When you have folks like CHARLIE RENGEL coming out to defend the immoral minority, something's a bit broken. :lulz:
Quote from: Cain on June 14, 2011, 07:05:33 PM
No, but it is more proof the Democrats are incapable of anything but eating their own.
There's no wrong way to eat a rhesus.
\
:monkeydance:
Oh yeah, this is the shit
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/was-anthony-weiner-unwitting-pawn-islamic-socialist-plot
QuoteLess than a year ago, in July 2010, Huma Abedin married Jewish U.S. Representative Anthony Weiner (D-NY). Attesting to the strength of her relationship with the Clintons, former President William J. Clinton officiated at the ceremony. Not unlike President Obama, the Clintons, as well as powerful politicos such as George Soros, are devotes of Saul Alinksy [sic] , who is considered "the founder of modern Community Organizing." From my position, I clearly see that the actions of this group signal their socialist agenda, which includes domination of the U.S. by a Muslim ruled world.
Which begs the question of whether Huma Abedin been groomed by family and political leaders to carry this agenda forward? ...Therefore we must consider that Mr. Weiner *may* have converted to Islam, because if he did not, we have to consider the unlikely, that being that Ms. Abedin has abandoned her Muslim faith, even while she still practices.
...The question that begs to be asked, however, is, has Huma been groomed to access leading political movers and shakers to advance the cause of Islam in America, including a politically positioned marriage to Congressman Anthony Weiner?
I'm going to register hashumabeengroomedtoaccessleadingpoliticalmoversandshakerstoadvancethecauseofislaminamericaincludingapoliticallypositionedmarriagetocongressmananthonyweiner.com
Naturally, it shall say NO in a large font, and nothing else.
(http://www.iisretard.com/wp-content/plugins/rss-poster/cache/70fec_memes-extreme-facepalm.jpg)
Wait, this one's better.
(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/8000000/Facepalm-critical-analysis-of-twilight-8089857-646-501.jpg)
Also, as a link I posted earlier in this thread shows, Weiner is one of the most die-hard pro-Israel Congressmen around.
But clearly making him support Israel somehow serves the Machiavellian plotting of "Islam in America".
Quote from: Cain on June 15, 2011, 04:47:23 PM
Also, as a link I posted earlier in this thread shows, Weiner is one of the most die-hard pro-Israel Congressmen around.
But clearly making him support Israel somehow serves the Machiavellian plotting of "Islam in America".
Well yeah. America's support of Islam is one of the major rallying issues for Islamic terror organizations after all. He's helping them recruit.
Wow. Backward logic has nowhere to go but up the ass.
Jesus fucking retarded christ.
Quote from: ☄ · · · N E T · · · ☄ on June 12, 2011, 08:18:54 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on June 12, 2011, 07:16:49 PM
Wait, one's called Boehner and the other Weiner??? Those shapeshifting reptiles need to fucking grow up.
Don't forget Bush, former VP Dick and the infamous Santorum.
Weiner / Boehner 2012
★ ★ ★ "Going balls deep for America." ★ ★ ★
PAID ADVERTISEMENT BY 3RD GRADERS FOR A FUNNIER TOMORROW
I stole your idea and made this: http://www.facebook.com/pages/WeinerBoehner-2012/167504159980958?sk=wall
If you're on FB, join up and I'll make you admin.
Quote from: Pastor Miskatonic Zappathruster on June 17, 2011, 02:30:44 AM
I stole your idea and made this: http://www.facebook.com/pages/WeinerBoehner-2012/167504159980958?sk=wall
If you're on FB, join up and I'll make you admin.
That's awesome.
I'm not on FB, but I appreciate the gesture.
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=B7932CD6-44B7-4E27-9AA1-6CEF2CE8E8E5
Matt Stoller, former coffee-boy for Alan Grayson and Professional Economic Troll (of the right sort) is now mocking the American media via Politico:
QuotePrior to the scandal, Washington's chattering class was debating the debt ceiling, gas prices, instability in the financial markets, a collapsing housing sector and an economy balanced between a (mostly) jobless recovery and a renewed recession. Post scandal, the issues are largely the same — right down to the question of whether (or really when) Greece will default.
Sure, Democrats had spent a few weeks whacking the Washington "It" boy, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), on his plan to give seniors coupons and complimentary copies of P90X instead of medicine. But that issue isn't going away. Or if it is, that's because of the debt ceiling negotiations — in which Democrats and Republicans are expected to agree on Medicare cuts.
The simple fact is: There's no governing agenda being debated. So Weiner wasn't a distraction — more like an in-flight soft-core movie in between election jockeying by a bored political class.
For confirmation, let's look at the economist Rebecca Blank, a candidate to replace Austan Goolsbee as the White House's chief economic adviser. Blank is a "pragmatic progressive" economist, which apparently means someone who feels bad about the damage caused by the problems they aren't trying to fix.
"Could this economy take off again?" Blank said recently in the National Journal, "The answer is absolutely yes. If you look at corporate profits, if you look at consumer balance sheets [improving] ... gas prices are falling. I guess I understand the reason to say, 'Let's see if this economy can do it on its own.'"
On its own? Really? Tell this to the more than 9 percent currently unemployed.