http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e61_1308199493
LOL! SOLD HER MEDS FOR LIGHTBULBS SO I CAN SMOKE METH OUT OF THEM!
you better shoot her in the head, shes clearly turning zombie...
Jesus fucking christ. Put it out of it's misery.
I used to see people like that stagger by the office in Boston through the Leather District. Ick.
OH SHIT
Meth is SO FUCKING GROSS.
That woman is probably going to die of that festering neck wound.
Quote from: Faust on June 16, 2011, 11:18:19 PM
That woman is probably going to die of that festering neck wound.
Yeah, that shit was GROSS.
She seemed to be missing most of her teeth, too.
The worst part? She was probably nineteen.
Bravo. This is the GIGGLES I remember. :vom:
She says shes 40. but yeah that neck thing...ew
Quote from: The Fred ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on June 17, 2011, 02:09:21 AM
She says shes 40. but yeah that neck thing...ew
I didn't get that far, I had to stop watching it.
You know what was super-gross? When she was showing her neck, and pulled her hair up, you could see how there was a buttload of scar tissue and no hair extending up from the neck wound. You can tell that she's been picking/scratching at her neck and scalp for YEARS and probably always has that wound to some extent. SHE DID IT TO HERSELF WITH HER FINGERNAILS. :x
Not even once, kids.
UGH. I thought it was a burn, but on reflection, yeah - that's exactly what happened.
Whatever is in the meth these days must be a lot worse than what was in the old meth, there's always been skinny dried-out meth monsters with bad teeth, but nothing like this.
Guys, I'm relatively sure this *isn't* meth. It looks like some kind of mental retardation and it's just been "jokingly" put up as a meth thing.
Speaking as a former hard core abuser, this is *not* the kind of fucked up meth makes you.
But I could be wrong. Maybe I just don't *Want* it to be meth. But honestly, this doesn't add up to me.
Quote from: Lies on June 17, 2011, 04:15:55 AM
Guys, I'm relatively sure this *isn't* meth. It looks like some kind of mental retardation and it's just been "jokingly" put up as a meth thing.
Speaking as a former hard core abuser, this is *not* the kind of fucked up meth makes you.
But I could be wrong. Maybe I just don't *Want* it to be meth. But honestly, this doesn't add up to me.
maybe australian meth isnt as bad as redneck american trailer park meth
Quote from: Lies on June 17, 2011, 04:15:55 AM
Guys, I'm relatively sure this *isn't* meth. It looks like some kind of mental retardation and it's just been "jokingly" put up as a meth thing.
Speaking as a former hard core abuser, this is *not* the kind of fucked up meth makes you.
But I could be wrong. Maybe I just don't *Want* it to be meth. But honestly, this doesn't add up to me.
Ummm mentally retarded people don't do that shit, methheads do. This is exactly the kind of fucked up meth makes people... at least here. She may have had some mental illness mixed in but the way she was acting is totally consistent with brain damage from meth. I think most of 'em die before they get that bad, though.
She could totally have been on other stuff too, but the picking and flapping and missing teeth... :vom: meth.
You seem too functional and rational to have been a hard core meth abuser. Also, too alive.
You've seen this, right?
http://www.facesofmeth.us/main.htm
It's based in my county. Tweakers are BAD here... and it's so much worse out in small towns. They're fucking everywhere. We don't have as many meth labs anymore since we banned over-the-counter pseudoephedrine, but it's still a pretty fucked up situation. My friend bought and rehabbed a former meth house, and it was... I can't describe how disgusting it was. It was beyond foul. There was shit. On the carpet.
The zombies ride their bikes or shuffle up and down the street looking for something to steal, and periodically they're replaced by new ones. I don't think they live very long after they hit zombie stage, maybe a few months.
Quote from: Your Mom on June 17, 2011, 04:38:25 AM
Quote from: Lies on June 17, 2011, 04:15:55 AM
Guys, I'm relatively sure this *isn't* meth. It looks like some kind of mental retardation and it's just been "jokingly" put up as a meth thing.
Speaking as a former hard core abuser, this is *not* the kind of fucked up meth makes you.
But I could be wrong. Maybe I just don't *Want* it to be meth. But honestly, this doesn't add up to me.
Ummm mentally retarded people don't do that shit, methheads do. This is exactly the kind of fucked up meth makes people... at least here. She may have had some mental illness mixed in but the way she was acting is totally consistent with brain damage from meth. I think most of 'em die before they get that bad, though.
She could totally have been on other stuff too, but the picking and flapping and missing teeth... :vom: meth.
You seem too functional and rational to have been a hard core meth abuser. Also, too alive.
If you were to ask me, this seems a little more consistent with crack than meth. But I wouldn't be surprised if it's both.
I mean, I've known a lot of meth heads here in Aus, and have never met anyone *that* fucked up. But yeah, maybe it's because people *that* fucked up probably don't live very long or leave the house or something.
It's probably irresponsible poly-drug abuse, I'm willing to go with that. Meth *is* pretty bad, and I've seen some of the worst at rehab clinics, just... not *this* bad.
Wish there was more background information on this video, it's all very vague about what the story actually is.
Quote from: Your Mom on June 17, 2011, 04:59:45 AM
You've seen this, right?
http://www.facesofmeth.us/main.htm
It's based in my county. Tweakers are BAD here... and it's so much worse out in small towns. They're fucking everywhere. We don't have as many meth labs anymore since we banned over-the-counter pseudoephedrine, but it's still a pretty fucked up situation. My friend bought and rehabbed a former meth house, and it was... I can't describe how disgusting it was. It was beyond foul. There was shit. On the carpet.
The zombies ride their bikes or shuffle up and down the street looking for something to steal, and periodically they're replaced by new ones. I don't think they live very long after they hit zombie stage, maybe a few months.
Yeah, I've seen it. I think those cases are the very worst case scenarios, it takes a lot of dedication and meth and stupidity to get *that* bad.
But no doubt, I'm sure there are plenty of people who *are* that bad. Don't get me wrong, not trying to defend meth here or anything, I just think these are some of the extreme cases.
Still, 1 in 16 people actually benefit from meth abuse, as this picture prooves
(http://mykblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/meth.jpg)
Quote from: Lies on June 17, 2011, 05:34:48 AM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 17, 2011, 04:59:45 AM
You've seen this, right?
http://www.facesofmeth.us/main.htm
It's based in my county. Tweakers are BAD here... and it's so much worse out in small towns. They're fucking everywhere. We don't have as many meth labs anymore since we banned over-the-counter pseudoephedrine, but it's still a pretty fucked up situation. My friend bought and rehabbed a former meth house, and it was... I can't describe how disgusting it was. It was beyond foul. There was shit. On the carpet.
The zombies ride their bikes or shuffle up and down the street looking for something to steal, and periodically they're replaced by new ones. I don't think they live very long after they hit zombie stage, maybe a few months.
Yeah, I've seen it. I think those cases are the very worst case scenarios, it takes a lot of dedication and meth and stupidity to get *that* bad.
But no doubt, I'm sure there are plenty of people who *are* that bad.
And the chick in the video was one of them. Ergo there is no argument.
Lies, I'm not sure you really comprehend American idiocy.
There's a virus that uses E. coli as a vessel to reproduce, killing the bacteria in the process. But the virus is not exactly a living organism. It's a zombie that uses living things to proliferate.
American stupidity is like that virus: feasting on poop, virulently reproducing, but never really living.
You can almost see the American dream about to wriggle out of that woman en masse.
Quote from: Lies on June 17, 2011, 04:15:55 AM
Guys, I'm relatively sure this *isn't* meth. It looks like some kind of mental retardation and it's just been "jokingly" put up as a meth thing.
Speaking as a former hard core abuser, this is *not* the kind of fucked up meth makes you.
But I could be wrong. Maybe I just don't *Want* it to be meth. But honestly, this doesn't add up to me.
Stop talking out of your ass, Lys. This post makes it obvious that you actually don't know fuck-all about meth. Staying up for a 3-day bender doesn't qualify you as a former hard-core tweeker.
This is EXACTLY the kind of fucked-up that meth makes you.
And while the physical symptoms she displayed may take months or years to develop to that degree, the spastic limb motions and nonsense babble tend to manifest themselves after just a few days of straight tweeking.
What ECH said.
Also, "consistent with crack"? What the fuck are you talking about, crackies don't act like that. Now you're just making shit up to sound like an expert.
That's meth. Why do you think they're called "tweakers"? And it's not rare cases that get that bad; most meth users become addicted, and of those addicted, life expectancy is only about five years from the onset of addiction.
Quote from: Your Mom on June 17, 2011, 05:13:01 PM
Also, "consistent with crack"? What the fuck are you talking about, crackies don't act like that. Now you're just making shit up to sound like an expert.
ITS A CRACK ADDICT.
I CAN TELL FROM THE SCABS AND FROM DOING QUITE A LOT OF METH IN MY TIME.
Quote from: Lies on June 17, 2011, 04:15:55 AM
Guys, I'm relatively sure this *isn't* meth. It looks like some kind of mental retardation and it's just been "jokingly" put up as a meth thing.
Speaking as a former hard core abuser, this is *not* the kind of fucked up meth makes you.
But I could be wrong. Maybe I just don't *Want* it to be meth. But honestly, this doesn't add up to me.
Trust me, it IS meth. Right down to the "meth mouth".
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on June 17, 2011, 03:57:59 PM
Quote from: Lies on June 17, 2011, 04:15:55 AM
Guys, I'm relatively sure this *isn't* meth. It looks like some kind of mental retardation and it's just been "jokingly" put up as a meth thing.
Speaking as a former hard core abuser, this is *not* the kind of fucked up meth makes you.
But I could be wrong. Maybe I just don't *Want* it to be meth. But honestly, this doesn't add up to me.
Stop talking out of your ass, Lys. This post makes it obvious that you actually don't know fuck-all about meth. Staying up for a 3-day bender doesn't qualify you as a former hard-core tweeker.
This is EXACTLY the kind of fucked-up that meth makes you.
I won't go into details as to how much I used to use, but I used a fuckload. Try month long benders.
I know fuckloads about meth. I know what it does to your teeth. I'm still paying for that now despite my meticulous oral hygiene. Just the other day, another one of my fucking molars cracked while eating a fucking BAKED POTATO.
I was never denying it couldn't be meth, but this seems like poly-drug use to me.
And I know people who get into crack, they're the ones who seem the most "strung out" and "out of touch" than any other type of drug user demographic I know of.
I don't advocate meth, and I'm not defending meth here, I just suspect that this isn't *just* meth, I have no doubt there's meth involved considering the meth mouth and terrible skin condition, but it's just weird to me seeing this, because I've never seen anyone get *that* fucked up on *just* meth. Like I said, maybe it *is* just meth and I don't want to believe it, but I just think it's more likely this is the effects of poly-drug use, I'd put my money on meth + crack.
I'm not talking out of my arse, I'm just trying to get some consistency here on my personal experience and understanding.
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on June 18, 2011, 12:51:59 AM
Quote from: Lies on June 17, 2011, 04:15:55 AM
Guys, I'm relatively sure this *isn't* meth. It looks like some kind of mental retardation and it's just been "jokingly" put up as a meth thing.
Speaking as a former hard core abuser, this is *not* the kind of fucked up meth makes you.
But I could be wrong. Maybe I just don't *Want* it to be meth. But honestly, this doesn't add up to me.
Trust me, it IS meth. Right down to the "meth mouth".
Yeah, trust me, I know ALL about meth mouth.
Well, heavy meth use does cause permanent brain and personality damage that severely impairs interpersonal relationships, so that explains a lot. :(
Tweakers don't usually do crack unless for some reason meth is unavailable, because crack is much more expensive and the high is shorter. Tweakers can rarely afford crack because they can hardly get their brains together enough to steal a stereo to sell for $5 for meth, let alone find anything worth the $20 it would cost them to get high on crack for five minutes. Further, crack highs are intense enough that the users are usually incapacitated for the duration of the high, not out and about tweaking like meth addicts... haven't you ever seen anyone on a crack high? I assume not. Behavior when a cracky is down is way, way different from when a tweaker is down... crackies are jumpy and itchy and pleading, tweakers are just fucking weird and scary and flappy and talk way too loudly with an excess of TMI.
Quote from: Your Mom on June 18, 2011, 07:03:51 AM
Well, heavy meth use does cause permanent brain and personality damage that severely impairs interpersonal relationships, so that explains a lot. :(
Tweakers don't usually do crack unless for some reason meth is unavailable, because crack is much more expensive and the high is shorter. Tweakers can rarely afford crack because they can hardly get their brains together enough to steal a stereo to sell for $5 for meth, let alone find anything worth the $20 it would cost them to get high on crack for five minutes. Further, crack highs are intense enough that the users are usually incapacitated for the duration of the high, not out and about tweaking like meth addicts... haven't you ever seen anyone on a crack high? I assume not. Behavior when a cracky is down is way, way different from when a tweaker is down... crackies are jumpy and itchy and pleading, tweakers are just fucking weird and scary and flappy and talk way too loudly with an excess of TMI.
Honestly, I think I must be quite lucky to still have my wits and smarts about me considering how much I used.
I have a hundred fucked up tales I could tell of my "meth adventures", that I've been considering chronicling for posterity and a warning for others, it's a side of my past I'd rather forget, and if I could go back and change things, meth is one of the things I would have never gone near had I known back then the things I know now.
A part of me feels dead inside. It's hard to explain. Putting it one way, the first time I got high off meth was the best time. From there, it was all downhill, I could never get that same buzz, but I kept chasing it anyway.
I don't *feel* the same way I used to feel. In some ways, I feel like there's a stranger inside my body now, there's still *me* inside, but there's parts of me that are missing. Summers don't feel the same. Winters smell wrong. Love has lost its original meaning/feeling. Things that used to make me happy are dull and lifeless, having a fun time always feels like it's missing something.
Trying to do extended amounts of work without the energy boost that I used to get from meth, becomes very tiring, very boring, very draining, very fast.
It's true. Meth is a hell of a drug.
And like I said, maybe I'm just in denial about what exactly meth can do. I KNOW it's really bad. I just have a hard time accepting that it's *that woman in the video* bad.
Maybe that could have been me right now if I kept up the stupidity, and maybe I'm trying to separate and distance myself from that idea, and don't want to believe it would have done that to me.
Thing is though, many people who take meth, are usually also poly drug users. I don't know many people who take illegal narcotics that just stick to one (with the probable exception of say, pot smokers and a few others), most of the time, if you take a "hard drug" you'll be curious about all the rest.
Dude. Part of you IS dead.
Meth is a demented road-construction crew. Instead of a relatively thriving 'you'-city, you've got a bunch of vaguely connected villages and a few billion dead-end highways that used to lead to various places, like 'fun'-ville and 'true-love'-burgh. And all the dopamine-mines in your brain are not only depleted of valuable ore, but the mines have collapsed and are now safety hazards.
Parts of your brain are now post-goldrush ghost towns. Nothing but bleached bones and fouled water.
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 18, 2011, 08:20:03 AM
Dude. Part of you IS dead.
Meth is a demented road-construction crew. Instead of a relatively thriving 'you'-city, you've got a bunch of vaguely connected villages and a few billion dead-end highways that used to lead to various places, like 'fun'-ville and 'true-love'-burgh. And all the dopamine-mines in your brain are not only depleted of valuable ore, but the mines have collapsed and are now safety hazards.
Parts of your brain are now post-goldrush ghost towns. Nothing but bleached bones and fouled water.
Thanks for the reminder. It's a good thing the part of me that cares is dead too now, eh? :P
Quote from: Lies on June 18, 2011, 08:26:10 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 18, 2011, 08:20:03 AM
Dude. Part of you IS dead.
Meth is a demented road-construction crew. Instead of a relatively thriving 'you'-city, you've got a bunch of vaguely connected villages and a few billion dead-end highways that used to lead to various places, like 'fun'-ville and 'true-love'-burgh. And all the dopamine-mines in your brain are not only depleted of valuable ore, but the mines have collapsed and are now safety hazards.
Parts of your brain are now post-goldrush ghost towns. Nothing but bleached bones and fouled water.
Thanks for the reminder. It's a good thing the part of me that cares is dead too now, eh? :P
You're going to have a
fun time rewiring yourself, innit? You seem like a cool dude. I hope you care about that and staying away from that shit. And other assorted shits.
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 18, 2011, 08:30:40 AM
Quote from: Lies on June 18, 2011, 08:26:10 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 18, 2011, 08:20:03 AM
Dude. Part of you IS dead.
Meth is a demented road-construction crew. Instead of a relatively thriving 'you'-city, you've got a bunch of vaguely connected villages and a few billion dead-end highways that used to lead to various places, like 'fun'-ville and 'true-love'-burgh. And all the dopamine-mines in your brain are not only depleted of valuable ore, but the mines have collapsed and are now safety hazards.
Parts of your brain are now post-goldrush ghost towns. Nothing but bleached bones and fouled water.
Thanks for the reminder. It's a good thing the part of me that cares is dead too now, eh? :P
You're going to have a fun time rewiring yourself, innit? You seem like a cool dude. I hope you care about that and staying away from that shit. And other assorted shits.
Lets put it this way- a part of me has changed that I'll never be able to get back as far as I know.
But am I unhappy or depressed? Fuck no. Do I still enjoy life? Fuck yeah. I've still got ambition. I still have drive. I love being alive right now.
All it is really, is a bit like being color blind. You still basically see and experience things in almost the same way as everyone else, just certain colors/feelings have been fizzled, but you can still get by almost exactly the same as everyone else.
yeah?no So where r U on Sex For 0, i'z been following U's missN since 6/7 {comprenda'?
Quote from: Your Mom on June 18, 2011, 07:03:51 AM
Well, heavy meth use does cause permanent brain and personality damage that severely impairs interpersonal relationships, so that explains a lot. :(
Tweakers don't usually do crack unless for some reason meth is unavailable, because crack is much more expensive and the high is shorter. Tweakers can rarely afford crack because they can hardly get their brains together enough to steal a stereo to sell for $5 for meth, let alone find anything worth the $20 it would cost them to get high on crack for five minutes. Further, crack highs are intense enough that the users are usually incapacitated for the duration of the high, not out and about tweaking like meth addicts... haven't you ever seen anyone on a crack high? I assume not. Behavior when a cracky is down is way, way different from when a tweaker is down... crackies are jumpy and itchy and pleading, tweakers are just fucking weird and scary and flappy and talk way too loudly with an excess of TMI.
i never comprendo anything hirley says
Quote from: hirley0 on June 18, 2011, 04:15:27 PM
yeah?no So where r U on Sex For 0, i'z been following U's missN since 6/7 {comprenda'?
Quote from: Your Mom on June 18, 2011, 07:03:51 AM
Well, heavy meth use does cause permanent brain and personality damage that severely impairs interpersonal relationships, so that explains a lot. :(
Tweakers don't usually do crack unless for some reason meth is unavailable, because crack is much more expensive and the high is shorter. Tweakers can rarely afford crack because they can hardly get their brains together enough to steal a stereo to sell for $5 for meth, let alone find anything worth the $20 it would cost them to get high on crack for five minutes. Further, crack highs are intense enough that the users are usually incapacitated for the duration of the high, not out and about tweaking like meth addicts... haven't you ever seen anyone on a crack high? I assume not. Behavior when a cracky is down is way, way different from when a tweaker is down... crackies are jumpy and itchy and pleading, tweakers are just fucking weird and scary and flappy and talk way too loudly with an excess of TMI.
Well, I woke up this morning perfectly OK with the idea that I'm not going to be seeing anyone at all for a while, if that explains anything. I'm on somewhat delicate speaking terms with Mr. Language, with hints of future reconciliation but it's obviously a ways out there if it happens at all. But then things abruptly changed about ten minutes ago with the introduction of a new character, so who knows. Plot twist...
Quote from: Lies on June 18, 2011, 07:57:32 AM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 18, 2011, 07:03:51 AM
Well, heavy meth use does cause permanent brain and personality damage that severely impairs interpersonal relationships, so that explains a lot. :(
Tweakers don't usually do crack unless for some reason meth is unavailable, because crack is much more expensive and the high is shorter. Tweakers can rarely afford crack because they can hardly get their brains together enough to steal a stereo to sell for $5 for meth, let alone find anything worth the $20 it would cost them to get high on crack for five minutes. Further, crack highs are intense enough that the users are usually incapacitated for the duration of the high, not out and about tweaking like meth addicts... haven't you ever seen anyone on a crack high? I assume not. Behavior when a cracky is down is way, way different from when a tweaker is down... crackies are jumpy and itchy and pleading, tweakers are just fucking weird and scary and flappy and talk way too loudly with an excess of TMI.
Honestly, I think I must be quite lucky to still have my wits and smarts about me considering how much I used.
I have a hundred fucked up tales I could tell of my "meth adventures", that I've been considering chronicling for posterity and a warning for others, it's a side of my past I'd rather forget, and if I could go back and change things, meth is one of the things I would have never gone near had I known back then the things I know now.
A part of me feels dead inside. It's hard to explain. Putting it one way, the first time I got high off meth was the best time. From there, it was all downhill, I could never get that same buzz, but I kept chasing it anyway.
I don't *feel* the same way I used to feel. In some ways, I feel like there's a stranger inside my body now, there's still *me* inside, but there's parts of me that are missing. Summers don't feel the same. Winters smell wrong. Love has lost its original meaning/feeling. Things that used to make me happy are dull and lifeless, having a fun time always feels like it's missing something.
Trying to do extended amounts of work without the energy boost that I used to get from meth, becomes very tiring, very boring, very draining, very fast.
It's true. Meth is a hell of a drug.
And like I said, maybe I'm just in denial about what exactly meth can do. I KNOW it's really bad. I just have a hard time accepting that it's *that woman in the video* bad.
Maybe that could have been me right now if I kept up the stupidity, and maybe I'm trying to separate and distance myself from that idea, and don't want to believe it would have done that to me.
Thing is though, many people who take meth, are usually also poly drug users. I don't know many people who take illegal narcotics that just stick to one (with the probable exception of say, pot smokers and a few others), most of the time, if you take a "hard drug" you'll be curious about all the rest.
She could be on something else as well, but regardless of whether you've seen anyone that fucked up on meth before, I have. It is consistent with meth, maybe meth combined with PCP, not at all with crack.
Quote from: Lies on June 18, 2011, 07:57:32 AM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 18, 2011, 07:03:51 AM
Well, heavy meth use does cause permanent brain and personality damage that severely impairs interpersonal relationships, so that explains a lot. :(
Tweakers don't usually do crack unless for some reason meth is unavailable, because crack is much more expensive and the high is shorter. Tweakers can rarely afford crack because they can hardly get their brains together enough to steal a stereo to sell for $5 for meth, let alone find anything worth the $20 it would cost them to get high on crack for five minutes. Further, crack highs are intense enough that the users are usually incapacitated for the duration of the high, not out and about tweaking like meth addicts... haven't you ever seen anyone on a crack high? I assume not. Behavior when a cracky is down is way, way different from when a tweaker is down... crackies are jumpy and itchy and pleading, tweakers are just fucking weird and scary and flappy and talk way too loudly with an excess of TMI.
Honestly, I think I must be quite lucky to still have my wits and smarts about me considering how much I used.
I have a hundred fucked up tales I could tell of my "meth adventures", that I've been considering chronicling for posterity and a warning for others, it's a side of my past I'd rather forget, and if I could go back and change things, meth is one of the things I would have never gone near had I known back then the things I know now.
A part of me feels dead inside. It's hard to explain. Putting it one way, the first time I got high off meth was the best time. From there, it was all downhill, I could never get that same buzz, but I kept chasing it anyway.
I don't *feel* the same way I used to feel. In some ways, I feel like there's a stranger inside my body now, there's still *me* inside, but there's parts of me that are missing. Summers don't feel the same. Winters smell wrong. Love has lost its original meaning/feeling. Things that used to make me happy are dull and lifeless, having a fun time always feels like it's missing something.
Trying to do extended amounts of work without the energy boost that I used to get from meth, becomes very tiring, very boring, very draining, very fast.
It's true. Meth is a hell of a drug.
And like I said, maybe I'm just in denial about what exactly meth can do. I KNOW it's really bad. I just have a hard time accepting that it's *that woman in the video* bad.
Maybe that could have been me right now if I kept up the stupidity, and maybe I'm trying to separate and distance myself from that idea, and don't want to believe it would have done that to me.
Thing is though, many people who take meth, are usually also poly drug users. I don't know many people who take illegal narcotics that just stick to one (with the probable exception of say, pot smokers and a few others), most of the time, if you take a "hard drug" you'll be curious about all the rest.
I'm pretty sure you're at least mostly full of shit on this one. Dude, I used to be involved in that business. People who have used as much as you say you have are generally unable to string together a complete sentence, let alone log on to the internet and hold a conversation with others.
Unless there's some other drug that Aussies refer to as "meth" (methedrine, maybe?). Because on the subject of methamphetamines, you're just dead wrong about most of what you're saying.
Alternately, nobody in Aus knows how to cook the stuff properly and all you've had is the shitty nazi-crank that's cooked in bathtubs by people who should probably leave advanced chemistry to their betters.
:lulz:
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on June 18, 2011, 05:46:03 PM
Alternately, nobody in Aus knows how to cook the stuff properly and all you've had is the shitty nazi-crank that's cooked in bathtubs by people who should probably leave advanced chemistry to their betters.
:lulz:
Probably this.
Simply because I've NEVER seen anyone who used meth as heavily as he claims, and didn't end up dying or incompetent to care for themselves.
Quote from: Your Mom on June 18, 2011, 05:12:52 PM
Quote from: hirley0 on June 18, 2011, 04:15:27 PM
yeah?no So where r U on Sex For 0, i'z been following U's missN since 6/7 {comprenda'?
Quote from: Your Mom on June 18, 2011, 07:03:51 AM
Well, heavy meth use does cause permanent brain and personality damage that severely impairs interpersonal relationships, so that explains a lot. :(
Tweakers don't usually do crack unless for some reason meth is unavailable, because crack is much more expensive and the high is shorter. Tweakers can rarely afford crack because they can hardly get their brains together enough to steal a stereo to sell for $5 for meth, let alone find anything worth the $20 it would cost them to get high on crack for five minutes. Further, crack highs are intense enough that the users are usually incapacitated for the duration of the high, not out and about tweaking like meth addicts... haven't you ever seen anyone on a crack high? I assume not. Behavior when a cracky is down is way, way different from when a tweaker is down... crackies are jumpy and itchy and pleading, tweakers are just fucking weird and scary and flappy and talk way too loudly with an excess of TMI.
Well, I woke up this morning perfectly OK with the idea that I'm not going to be seeing anyone at all for a while, if that explains anything. I'm on somewhat delicate speaking terms with Mr. Language, with hints of future reconciliation but it's obviously a ways out there if it happens at all. But then things abruptly changed about ten minutes ago with the introduction of a new character, so who knows. Plot twist...
LoB (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=29357.msg1061258#msg1061258)
PD! CHECK = i hate LoB's cause on my sYs they are so TwiTchy? know whaT i mean Machine?
+ the drink was $2.5 I handed over a 5 and never got a Dime "back"
Can we trade lys for the woman in the OP, she probably talks less shit?
Quote from: Faust on June 19, 2011, 07:41:22 PM
Can we trade lys for the woman in the OP, she probably talks less shit?
:lulz:
I laughed, and second this.
I have to ask because I am sincerely curious: Lys, what made you decide to try meth in the first place? I've always wondered... not so much with the mildly retarded rednecks that I usually see on the stuff, but with a relatively normal intelligent person, what the hell makes anyone say "Meth? Why not!"?
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on June 18, 2011, 05:43:13 PM
Quote from: Lies on June 18, 2011, 07:57:32 AM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 18, 2011, 07:03:51 AM
Well, heavy meth use does cause permanent brain and personality damage that severely impairs interpersonal relationships, so that explains a lot. :(
Tweakers don't usually do crack unless for some reason meth is unavailable, because crack is much more expensive and the high is shorter. Tweakers can rarely afford crack because they can hardly get their brains together enough to steal a stereo to sell for $5 for meth, let alone find anything worth the $20 it would cost them to get high on crack for five minutes. Further, crack highs are intense enough that the users are usually incapacitated for the duration of the high, not out and about tweaking like meth addicts... haven't you ever seen anyone on a crack high? I assume not. Behavior when a cracky is down is way, way different from when a tweaker is down... crackies are jumpy and itchy and pleading, tweakers are just fucking weird and scary and flappy and talk way too loudly with an excess of TMI.
Honestly, I think I must be quite lucky to still have my wits and smarts about me considering how much I used.
I have a hundred fucked up tales I could tell of my "meth adventures", that I've been considering chronicling for posterity and a warning for others, it's a side of my past I'd rather forget, and if I could go back and change things, meth is one of the things I would have never gone near had I known back then the things I know now.
A part of me feels dead inside. It's hard to explain. Putting it one way, the first time I got high off meth was the best time. From there, it was all downhill, I could never get that same buzz, but I kept chasing it anyway.
I don't *feel* the same way I used to feel. In some ways, I feel like there's a stranger inside my body now, there's still *me* inside, but there's parts of me that are missing. Summers don't feel the same. Winters smell wrong. Love has lost its original meaning/feeling. Things that used to make me happy are dull and lifeless, having a fun time always feels like it's missing something.
Trying to do extended amounts of work without the energy boost that I used to get from meth, becomes very tiring, very boring, very draining, very fast.
It's true. Meth is a hell of a drug.
And like I said, maybe I'm just in denial about what exactly meth can do. I KNOW it's really bad. I just have a hard time accepting that it's *that woman in the video* bad.
Maybe that could have been me right now if I kept up the stupidity, and maybe I'm trying to separate and distance myself from that idea, and don't want to believe it would have done that to me.
Thing is though, many people who take meth, are usually also poly drug users. I don't know many people who take illegal narcotics that just stick to one (with the probable exception of say, pot smokers and a few others), most of the time, if you take a "hard drug" you'll be curious about all the rest.
I'm pretty sure you're at least mostly full of shit on this one. Dude, I used to be involved in that business. People who have used as much as you say you have are generally unable to string together a complete sentence, let alone log on to the internet and hold a conversation with others.
Unless there's some other drug that Aussies refer to as "meth" (methedrine, maybe?). Because on the subject of methamphetamines, you're just dead wrong about most of what you're saying.
I'm not making anything up here man. And I know the stuff I get is meth-amphetamine. I know what I'm talking about. I know the differences between different drugs. I have testing kits. And I have the photos to prove just how bad my meth use was.
If this doesn't make you think I'm not talking out of my ass, then all I'll say is, you're the one in denial in that case.
NSF ANYONE.
THESE ARE PICS OF MY TEETH SEVERAL YEARS AGO AT THE PEAK OF MY STUPIDITY. NOT PRETTY. DONT SAY I DIDN'T WARN YOU
http://imageshack.us/f/717/dsc00888of.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/849/dsc00886l.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/90/dsc00887d.jpg/
Do you want more proof that yes, I was a fucking moron and I'm paying for it in spades, so you'll have to forgive me for having a different idea of what meth can do to you considering how long I was fucked up on it?
Quote from: Your Mom on June 19, 2011, 07:51:33 PM
I have to ask because I am sincerely curious: Lys, what made you decide to try meth in the first place? I've always wondered... not so much with the mildly retarded rednecks that I usually see on the stuff, but with a relatively normal intelligent person, what the hell makes anyone say "Meth? Why not!"?
It's a long story. Basically, I started using it when meth was still relatively unknown in Aus. And 90% of the time, I wasn't using meth recreationally, I was using it to work stupidily long hours that I had no choice in.
Since all this shit has been brought up now, I'm thinking I might just start my own thread chronicling my misadventures with meth, if you really care to know.
I did meth a few times when I was 20. I'd never had any kind of illegal drug except pot at the time, and a new "friend" was doing it and asked me if I wanted to try some and I said "sure why not, does it make you high like weed?" (yea I was THAT dumb) I tried it and then kept doing it, and three months later I was thirty pounds lighter (skeletal) and talking to people that only I could see. Somehow my brain still functioned enough to realize that I needed to stop this shit NOW. Because when me and this asstard "friend" would go get more from our supplier, I'd see people like the woman in that video. No fucking way I wanted to go there, I like my teeth and my skin. And my ability to speak coherent sentences.
So the point of all my emoting in the paragraph above is: The woman's behavior in the video is consistent with meth addicts I've seen.
Quote from: Aloe on June 20, 2011, 06:42:11 AM
I did meth a few times when I was 20. I'd never had any kind of illegal drug except pot at the time, and a new "friend" was doing it and asked me if I wanted to try some and I said "sure why not, does it make you high like weed?" (yea I was THAT dumb) I tried it and then kept doing it, and three months later I was thirty pounds lighter (skeletal) and talking to people that only I could see. Somehow my brain still functioned enough to realize that I needed to stop this shit NOW. Because when me and this asstard "friend" would go get more from our supplier, I'd see people like the woman in that video. No fucking way I wanted to go there, I like my teeth and my skin. And my ability to speak coherent sentences.
So the point of all my emoting in the paragraph above is: The woman's behavior in the video is consistent with meth addicts I've seen.
Fair enough. Mind you, I've never denied that meth fucks you up. I'm just wondering now how much meth you need to do to get *that* fucked up, because, I did more meth than most and over several years, I still have most of my brain cells working at a respectable level.
My teeth on the other hand, are a different story. 80% of my teeth are now fake.
Quote from: Lies on June 20, 2011, 06:46:21 AM
Quote from: Aloe on June 20, 2011, 06:42:11 AM
I did meth a few times when I was 20. I'd never had any kind of illegal drug except pot at the time, and a new "friend" was doing it and asked me if I wanted to try some and I said "sure why not, does it make you high like weed?" (yea I was THAT dumb) I tried it and then kept doing it, and three months later I was thirty pounds lighter (skeletal) and talking to people that only I could see. Somehow my brain still functioned enough to realize that I needed to stop this shit NOW. Because when me and this asstard "friend" would go get more from our supplier, I'd see people like the woman in that video. No fucking way I wanted to go there, I like my teeth and my skin. And my ability to speak coherent sentences.
So the point of all my emoting in the paragraph above is: The woman's behavior in the video is consistent with meth addicts I've seen.
Fair enough. Mind you, I've never denied that meth fucks you up. I'm just wondering now how much meth you need to do to get *that* fucked up, because, I did more meth than most and over several years, I still have most of my brain cells working at a respectable level.
My teeth on the other hand, are a different story. 80% of my teeth are now fake.
I am guessing she's about 4-5 years in, close to the end of a serious methhead's lifespan. They get like that usually in the last year. You are fucking lucky that you quit before you lost more than your teeth and ability to STFU. (TMI is a pretty consistent pattern with former methheads; that shit breaks the TMI filter.)
Quote from: Your Mom on June 20, 2011, 07:44:22 AM
Quote from: Lies on June 20, 2011, 06:46:21 AM
Quote from: Aloe on June 20, 2011, 06:42:11 AM
I did meth a few times when I was 20. I'd never had any kind of illegal drug except pot at the time, and a new "friend" was doing it and asked me if I wanted to try some and I said "sure why not, does it make you high like weed?" (yea I was THAT dumb) I tried it and then kept doing it, and three months later I was thirty pounds lighter (skeletal) and talking to people that only I could see. Somehow my brain still functioned enough to realize that I needed to stop this shit NOW. Because when me and this asstard "friend" would go get more from our supplier, I'd see people like the woman in that video. No fucking way I wanted to go there, I like my teeth and my skin. And my ability to speak coherent sentences.
So the point of all my emoting in the paragraph above is: The woman's behavior in the video is consistent with meth addicts I've seen.
Fair enough. Mind you, I've never denied that meth fucks you up. I'm just wondering now how much meth you need to do to get *that* fucked up, because, I did more meth than most and over several years, I still have most of my brain cells working at a respectable level.
My teeth on the other hand, are a different story. 80% of my teeth are now fake.
I am guessing she's about 4-5 years in, close to the end of a serious methhead's lifespan. They get like that usually in the last year. You are fucking lucky that you quit before you lost more than your teeth and ability to STFU. (TMI is a pretty consistent pattern with former methheads; that shit breaks the TMI filter.)
Have I been going into TMI? I'm just trying to be as honest as I can here.
Quote from: Lies on June 20, 2011, 07:52:04 AM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 20, 2011, 07:44:22 AM
Quote from: Lies on June 20, 2011, 06:46:21 AM
Quote from: Aloe on June 20, 2011, 06:42:11 AM
I did meth a few times when I was 20. I'd never had any kind of illegal drug except pot at the time, and a new "friend" was doing it and asked me if I wanted to try some and I said "sure why not, does it make you high like weed?" (yea I was THAT dumb) I tried it and then kept doing it, and three months later I was thirty pounds lighter (skeletal) and talking to people that only I could see. Somehow my brain still functioned enough to realize that I needed to stop this shit NOW. Because when me and this asstard "friend" would go get more from our supplier, I'd see people like the woman in that video. No fucking way I wanted to go there, I like my teeth and my skin. And my ability to speak coherent sentences.
So the point of all my emoting in the paragraph above is: The woman's behavior in the video is consistent with meth addicts I've seen.
Fair enough. Mind you, I've never denied that meth fucks you up. I'm just wondering now how much meth you need to do to get *that* fucked up, because, I did more meth than most and over several years, I still have most of my brain cells working at a respectable level.
My teeth on the other hand, are a different story. 80% of my teeth are now fake.
I am guessing she's about 4-5 years in, close to the end of a serious methhead's lifespan. They get like that usually in the last year. You are fucking lucky that you quit before you lost more than your teeth and ability to STFU. (TMI is a pretty consistent pattern with former methheads; that shit breaks the TMI filter.)
Have I been going into TMI? I'm just trying to be as honest as I can here.
It was brought up. Teeth behind link. Pdcom. I rule ambiguous, but acceptable.
When was this then, Lys? Your photos say 2009, so it was going on while you were on PD? Damn. THAT'S STUPID (yeah I know you know it is, but I'm saying it anyway)
Quote from: Triple Zero on June 20, 2011, 03:55:10 PM
When was this then, Lys? Your photos say 2009, so it was going on while you were on PD? Damn. THAT'S STUPID (yeah I know you know it is, but I'm saying it anyway)
That's *after* I got off the meth. but yer, mid 2000ish is when all this shit happened.
Quote from: Lies on June 20, 2011, 07:52:04 AM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 20, 2011, 07:44:22 AM
Quote from: Lies on June 20, 2011, 06:46:21 AM
Quote from: Aloe on June 20, 2011, 06:42:11 AM
I did meth a few times when I was 20. I'd never had any kind of illegal drug except pot at the time, and a new "friend" was doing it and asked me if I wanted to try some and I said "sure why not, does it make you high like weed?" (yea I was THAT dumb) I tried it and then kept doing it, and three months later I was thirty pounds lighter (skeletal) and talking to people that only I could see. Somehow my brain still functioned enough to realize that I needed to stop this shit NOW. Because when me and this asstard "friend" would go get more from our supplier, I'd see people like the woman in that video. No fucking way I wanted to go there, I like my teeth and my skin. And my ability to speak coherent sentences.
So the point of all my emoting in the paragraph above is: The woman's behavior in the video is consistent with meth addicts I've seen.
Fair enough. Mind you, I've never denied that meth fucks you up. I'm just wondering now how much meth you need to do to get *that* fucked up, because, I did more meth than most and over several years, I still have most of my brain cells working at a respectable level.
My teeth on the other hand, are a different story. 80% of my teeth are now fake.
I am guessing she's about 4-5 years in, close to the end of a serious methhead's lifespan. They get like that usually in the last year. You are fucking lucky that you quit before you lost more than your teeth and ability to STFU. (TMI is a pretty consistent pattern with former methheads; that shit breaks the TMI filter.)
Have I been going into TMI? I'm just trying to be as honest as I can here.
Not in this thread... and not so much lately, as I think you've been severely smacked down for it more than a few times.
Quote from: Lies on June 20, 2011, 05:48:09 AM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on June 18, 2011, 05:43:13 PM
Quote from: Lies on June 18, 2011, 07:57:32 AM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 18, 2011, 07:03:51 AM
Well, heavy meth use does cause permanent brain and personality damage that severely impairs interpersonal relationships, so that explains a lot. :(
Tweakers don't usually do crack unless for some reason meth is unavailable, because crack is much more expensive and the high is shorter. Tweakers can rarely afford crack because they can hardly get their brains together enough to steal a stereo to sell for $5 for meth, let alone find anything worth the $20 it would cost them to get high on crack for five minutes. Further, crack highs are intense enough that the users are usually incapacitated for the duration of the high, not out and about tweaking like meth addicts... haven't you ever seen anyone on a crack high? I assume not. Behavior when a cracky is down is way, way different from when a tweaker is down... crackies are jumpy and itchy and pleading, tweakers are just fucking weird and scary and flappy and talk way too loudly with an excess of TMI.
Honestly, I think I must be quite lucky to still have my wits and smarts about me considering how much I used.
I have a hundred fucked up tales I could tell of my "meth adventures", that I've been considering chronicling for posterity and a warning for others, it's a side of my past I'd rather forget, and if I could go back and change things, meth is one of the things I would have never gone near had I known back then the things I know now.
A part of me feels dead inside. It's hard to explain. Putting it one way, the first time I got high off meth was the best time. From there, it was all downhill, I could never get that same buzz, but I kept chasing it anyway.
I don't *feel* the same way I used to feel. In some ways, I feel like there's a stranger inside my body now, there's still *me* inside, but there's parts of me that are missing. Summers don't feel the same. Winters smell wrong. Love has lost its original meaning/feeling. Things that used to make me happy are dull and lifeless, having a fun time always feels like it's missing something.
Trying to do extended amounts of work without the energy boost that I used to get from meth, becomes very tiring, very boring, very draining, very fast.
It's true. Meth is a hell of a drug.
And like I said, maybe I'm just in denial about what exactly meth can do. I KNOW it's really bad. I just have a hard time accepting that it's *that woman in the video* bad.
Maybe that could have been me right now if I kept up the stupidity, and maybe I'm trying to separate and distance myself from that idea, and don't want to believe it would have done that to me.
Thing is though, many people who take meth, are usually also poly drug users. I don't know many people who take illegal narcotics that just stick to one (with the probable exception of say, pot smokers and a few others), most of the time, if you take a "hard drug" you'll be curious about all the rest.
I'm pretty sure you're at least mostly full of shit on this one. Dude, I used to be involved in that business. People who have used as much as you say you have are generally unable to string together a complete sentence, let alone log on to the internet and hold a conversation with others.
Unless there's some other drug that Aussies refer to as "meth" (methedrine, maybe?). Because on the subject of methamphetamines, you're just dead wrong about most of what you're saying.
I'm not making anything up here man. And I know the stuff I get is meth-amphetamine. I know what I'm talking about. I know the differences between different drugs. I have testing kits. And I have the photos to prove just how bad my meth use was.
If this doesn't make you think I'm not talking out of my ass, then all I'll say is, you're the one in denial in that case.
NSF ANYONE.
THESE ARE PICS OF MY TEETH SEVERAL YEARS AGO AT THE PEAK OF MY STUPIDITY. NOT PRETTY. DONT SAY I DIDN'T WARN YOU
http://imageshack.us/f/717/dsc00888of.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/849/dsc00886l.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/90/dsc00887d.jpg/
Do you want more proof that yes, I was a fucking moron and I'm paying for it in spades, so you'll have to forgive me for having a different idea of what meth can do to you considering how long I was fucked up on it?
Fair enough, and I believe you (sure can't think of any reason why you'd lie about it), but I think it's very strange that you did that much meth for that long and never saw other tweekers that displayed behavior like the chick in the video. I generally saw that appear in people after no more than 2 years of fairly constant use, though there are certainly those people that are the exceptions and can go through the stuff like it's going out of style, quit abruptly with no problems, and function at the same level they always did without ever missing the stuff once they're done with it.
There was tons of meth around where I lived in the 80's and I never even saw people with sores on their faces, it's gotten a lot worse. I'm guessing every now and then some chemical that they use to make it gets banned (like that stops anything) so they change the formula.
It was always bad, yeah, but you didn't see this shit.
The predominant formula in the 80s for domestically produced meth fell out of favor in the mid 90s as easier and more potent recipes made their way around.
Most 80s meth would have been made using the "nazi" method, which is relatively safe and produces a relatively weak drug.
Nowadays it's all about the red phosphorous and anhydrous ammonia, the chemical leftovers of which can cause some pretty nasty shit for people who use meth that wasn't washed properly after crystallization.
Another likely difference is that snorting was far more common than smoking back then. Most of the people you see who end up with REALLY fucked-up skin are smokers rather than snorters, as smoking produces a "wiggier" high and makes people more likely to, say, pick at a pimple for the next 2 years.
Thanks for clearing that up.
I knew people with arms like Rand-McNally roadmaps back then and they weren't even close to what you see now.
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on July 09, 2011, 02:58:05 AM
Thanks for clearing that up.
I knew people with arms like Rand-McNally roadmaps back then and they weren't even close to what you see now.
No. We call them zombies up here, because they walk around like the living dead, skin peeled half off, looking for shit to steal. They don't have the sense left to know the difference between something that's worth anything and garbage, so sometimes they break into your car and steal the tape deck, but leave the ipod in the back seat. It's gross, creepy, and any other epithet you'd hope to use. I used to feel bad about hoping they'd go die under someone's porch ASAP, but then I realized that it's a wish of mercy upon them, and the only cruelty is toward the poor soul whose porch they die under. They are a fucking epidemic.
In a sane world, they'd put the emphasis on coming up with safer drugs.
I don't waste pity on zombies, but somebody knew them before they were like that.
It'd be major suckage to watch that happen.
Quote from: Lies on June 17, 2011, 04:15:55 AM
Guys, I'm relatively sure this *isn't* meth. It looks like some kind of mental retardation and it's just been "jokingly" put up as a meth thing.
Speaking as a former hard core abuser, this is *not* the kind of fucked up meth makes you.
But I could be wrong. Maybe I just don't *Want* it to be meth. But honestly, this doesn't add up to me.
OH! HAY HORAB!