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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Cain on July 15, 2011, 10:37:29 PM

Title: James Cameron is too much of a pussy to make this sequel
Post by: Cain on July 15, 2011, 10:37:29 PM
I have just discovered Avatars II: When Qwaritch Takes Revenge

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5673392/1/Avatars_II

It starts off with the immortal line:

QuoteOne day on Earth, Kernal Miles Qwaritch (HE S NOT DEAD OK! PRETEND NETYRI DIDN T KILL HIM OK!) was sitting in his house in Nevada, watchin lesbian flicks an drinkin Rollin Rok an eatin popcorn when all of a sudden his phone rung

And from there on in, it only gets worse.
Title: Re: James Cameron is too much of a pussy to make this sequel
Post by: Bruno on July 15, 2011, 10:40:28 PM
I hate it when phones rang all sudden like. I much prefer a slow gradual rang.  :lulz:
Title: Re: James Cameron is too much of a pussy to make this sequel
Post by: Pæs on July 16, 2011, 12:59:16 AM
Nazis flying on giant birds. This has to be turned into a movie.
Title: Re: James Cameron is too much of a pussy to make this sequel
Post by: Laughin Jude on July 16, 2011, 07:59:16 AM
Quote"I thought we killed Jake" said QWaritch silently. "Then I must get my revenge!"
Thanks for this. Holy shit.
Title: Re: James Cameron is too much of a pussy to make this sequel
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on July 16, 2011, 10:40:00 AM
Whoever said literature was dead was being overly optimistic :|
Title: Re: James Cameron is too much of a pussy to make this sequel
Post by: MMIX on July 16, 2011, 12:23:27 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 16, 2011, 10:40:00 AM
Whoever said literature was dead was being overly optimistic :|

Dunno about literature but ParodyFic is obviously alive and kicking needs to be kicked
Title: Re: James Cameron is too much of a pussy to make this sequel
Post by: Laughin Jude on July 16, 2011, 09:03:39 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 16, 2011, 10:40:00 AM
Whoever said literature was dead was being overly optimistic :|
Nah, I'm bringing it back. Gimme a few.
Title: Re: James Cameron is too much of a pussy to make this sequel
Post by: President Television on July 17, 2011, 05:25:09 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 16, 2011, 10:40:00 AM
Whoever said literature was dead was being overly optimistic :|

This is just the tip of the iceberg. Ever heard of My Immortal?
Title: Re: James Cameron is too much of a pussy to make this sequel
Post by: MMIX on July 17, 2011, 12:15:46 PM
Why does nobody ever talk about good fanfic; just a thought.

Title: Re: James Cameron is too much of a pussy to make this sequel
Post by: President Television on July 17, 2011, 12:44:32 PM
Quote from: MMIX on July 17, 2011, 12:15:46 PM
Why does nobody ever talk about good fanfic; just a thought.



Because good fanfic is still fanfic, and fanfic is just a modified rehashing of a story you've already read, and thus inherently dull unless it's bad.
Except for Shinji and Warhammer 40k.
And Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality.
And Godzilla vs. Cthulhu.
Title: Re: James Cameron is too much of a pussy to make this sequel
Post by: Cain on July 17, 2011, 02:54:20 PM
Quote from: Uncle Wallified on July 17, 2011, 12:44:32 PM
Quote from: MMIX on July 17, 2011, 12:15:46 PM
Why does nobody ever talk about good fanfic; just a thought.



Because good fanfic is still fanfic, and fanfic is just a modified rehashing of a story you've already read, and thus inherently dull unless it's bad.
Except for Shinji and Warhammer 40k.
And Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality.
And Godzilla vs. Cthulhu.

Yeah, there is good stuff out there.  It's just much harder to find, and unless the writer is more talented or creative than those who wrote the original, it's not going to be all that great.

Plus most of this stuff goes into the "so bad it's good" category.
Title: Re: James Cameron is too much of a pussy to make this sequel
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 17, 2011, 05:49:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 17, 2011, 02:54:20 PM
Quote from: Uncle Wallified on July 17, 2011, 12:44:32 PM
Quote from: MMIX on July 17, 2011, 12:15:46 PM
Why does nobody ever talk about good fanfic; just a thought.



Because good fanfic is still fanfic, and fanfic is just a modified rehashing of a story you've already read, and thus inherently dull unless it's bad.
Except for Shinji and Warhammer 40k.
And Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality.
And Godzilla vs. Cthulhu.

Yeah, there is good stuff out there.  It's just much harder to find, and unless the writer is more talented or creative than those who wrote the original, it's not going to be all that great.

Plus most of this stuff goes into the "so bad it's good" category.

Usually if someone's that good/creative a writer, they come up with their own storylines and characters instead of writing fanfic.

With very few exceptions, fanfic is the domain of unoriginal hacks.
Title: Re: James Cameron is too much of a pussy to make this sequel
Post by: MMIX on July 17, 2011, 07:21:35 PM
Quote from: Nigel on July 17, 2011, 05:49:06 PM

With very few exceptions, fanfic is the domain of unoriginal hacks.

Yes but then, with very few exceptions, all fiction is the domain of unoriginal hacks. Best article I've seen on the phenomenon of fanfic appeared in Time Magazine this month http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,2081784-1,00.html.

MMIX
fanfic widow
Title: Re: James Cameron is too much of a pussy to make this sequel
Post by: Cain on July 18, 2011, 12:17:58 AM
Yeah.  Although, with Fanfic, you've already got something of a built-in audience, which makes it slightly different from your own fiction.

Alot of TV Tropers write decent fanfic, as you would expect (when they are not writing purposefully bad fanfic), and I know a couple of people on there are using fanfic as, well, Writer's Exercise, to get them used to thinking about plots, dialogue, characterisation and so on in a semi-structred environment before moving on to write their own fiction (and gain a bit of web-exposure for their skills), which I think is a very good idea.

Admittedly, that still leaves a good 90% which is utter crap, but, then, Sturgeon's Law...
Title: Re: James Cameron is too much of a pussy to make this sequel
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 18, 2011, 05:32:12 PM
Yes, most writers are not very good, and that includes writers who are able to get their own original story ideas published by real publishing houses.

It's just that fanfic authors don't even make it into that category.
Title: Re: James Cameron is too much of a pussy to make this sequel
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on July 18, 2011, 06:40:09 PM
Best fanfic I ever read was a bunch of published Star Wars stuff that my flatmate had. Then there was some really good graphic novels based on the Alien movies... Been wondering recently if there's any good LOTR fanfic out there. If the original story provides a reasonably immersive and well fleshed-out universe it's a good foundation for a decent author to expand that universe. Shit like twilight and avatar, tho, that's obviously a hiding to nowhere.
Title: Re: James Cameron is too much of a pussy to make this sequel
Post by: Scribbly on July 19, 2011, 11:42:38 AM
If you go by that definition, fanfic has produced some of my favourite literature - I absolutely love the Cthulhu Mythos, mostly for stuff that authors other than Lovecraft have added over the years. Some of Lovecraft's stuff is good, but it is stuff like Tyson's 'The Wanderings of Alhazred' which really make the world enjoyable for me.