Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Or Kill Me => Topic started by: Horab Fibslager on September 23, 2004, 12:15:01 PM

Title: the kirk principle
Post by: Horab Fibslager on September 23, 2004, 12:15:01 PM
is written very well in this openeing coupleof paragraphs of soem kind of article or something:

QuoteI forget which Star Trek movie it was (never was a Treky geek), but o¬?ne of the Star Trek movies included a story by Captain Kirk that has interesting implications for our so called modern networks.


Kirk's fellow midshipmen, or midspacemen, whatever, were curious how he passed the battle simulation exercise that was impossible to beat. He eventually admits to reprogramming the battle routine, thus defeating the virtual enemy.

The moral of this story is never assume people are going to play by your rules. There has been tremendous progress with layered security for our networks. Complete managed solutions are in place to enforce security policies and monitor computers and wire. All that nifty security works if everyone plays by your rules. Don't get too comfortable and ignore the insider threat. He could really care less about your rules.

a lesson from Captain Kirk (http://www.empiresecurity.com/displayarticle221-mode=thread.html)

Captain Kirk, can you save me?
Captain Kirk, I wanna have yo' baby.

- master p, ghetto d, captain kirk
Title: the kirk principle
Post by: namu on September 23, 2004, 01:30:31 PM
Booooring.
Title: the kirk principle
Post by: gnimbley on September 23, 2004, 03:40:30 PM
Geez horab, how could you forget? It was from the same movie that gave us

"Kaaahhhhhnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Title: the kirk principle
Post by: Rupert Giles on September 23, 2004, 05:36:42 PM
Quote from: gnimbleyGeez horab, how could you forget? It was from the same movie that gave us

"Kaaahhhhhnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

No, no, no, Gnimbly.  It's:

KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN! (http://cevk.com/music/khan.mp3)

Back of the throat.
Title: the kirk principle
Post by: chaosgraves:agentoferis on September 23, 2004, 07:32:49 PM
Kirk had now principles... he was able to justify his actions to others but the man had no principles.
Title: the kirk principle
Post by: Horab Fibslager on September 23, 2004, 09:49:12 PM
nobody has any principles anymroe anyway. at least none that anyone seems willinmg to die fro, and even a hufdred years ago men and women had stronger mettle than that.
Title: the kirk principle
Post by: Rupert Giles on September 24, 2004, 07:09:45 AM
Quote from: Horab Fibslagernobody has any principles anymroe anyway. at least none that anyone seems willinmg to die fro, and even a hufdred years ago men and women had stronger mettle than that.

I have quite a few principles that I would be willing to die for, thank you.
Title: the kirk principle
Post by: Horab Fibslager on September 24, 2004, 08:37:14 AM
sure abotu that now? sitting in front of a storm to help feed soem cats that will ahve to be put down in two weeks is alot different then preparign for war based entirely on principles, goign not only yourself, but sending loved ones with you, with the odds being that you are all going to either die on the battlefield, die from hanging(or the blcok), probaly be tortured for soem time before dying if you're captured. your woemnfolk raped and married or sold, your children sold in to indentureship, etc, etc, etc. in teh name of an ideal.


if you think you have plinciples liek the great men who paved the way for you to be living where you are now sitting comfortably bullshitting abotu you're principles then you're only lying to yourself.
Title: the kirk principle
Post by: Horab Fibslager on September 24, 2004, 08:38:48 AM
Quote from: gnimbleyGeez horab, how could you forget? It was from the same movie that gave us

"Kaaahhhhhnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


naw i know which movie, and to whom he's talking to. wrath of kahn was my favourite star trek movie as a kid.
Title: the kirk principle
Post by: chaosgraves:agentoferis on September 24, 2004, 06:21:20 PM
Quote from: Horab Fibslagernobody has any principles anymroe anyway. at least none that anyone seems willinmg to die fro, and even a hufdred years ago men and women had stronger mettle than that.
I have a book That is about the principles of discord in my backpack beside me even as I sit here typing... I can feel it's subtle pineal radiations affecting my frontal lobe..... * drool drool drool drool ... my payola*
Title: the kirk principle
Post by: Horab Fibslager on September 24, 2004, 10:03:51 PM
io dunno botu you, but despite being a fanatic, i aint about to die for it.
Title: the kirk principle
Post by: BADGE OF HONOR on September 24, 2004, 10:37:32 PM
Wait...isn't the willingness to die for a cause kind of the definition of a fanatic?
Title: the kirk principle
Post by: Horab Fibslager on September 25, 2004, 11:10:35 AM
yes, but, ther is a difference. the line has no wrods. at least none that i am familiar with.

let it put it to ya this way. the american forefathers were idealists. they did what what was necesarry, where they could.  fanatics do what they do not becaus it's necesary or it's what they can do, but because they're cleric tells tehm to. it 's a fine line. a very fine line.
Title: the kirk principle
Post by: Rupert Giles on September 25, 2004, 11:12:49 AM
Quote from: Horab Fibslagersure abotu that now? sitting in front of a storm to help feed soem cats that will ahve to be put down in two weeks is alot different then preparign for war based entirely on principles, goign not only yourself, but sending loved ones with you, with the odds being that you are all going to either die on the battlefield, die from hanging(or the blcok), probaly be tortured for soem time before dying if you're captured. your woemnfolk raped and married or sold, your children sold in to indentureship, etc, etc, etc. in teh name of an ideal.


if you think you have plinciples liek the great men who paved the way for you to be living where you are now sitting comfortably bullshitting abotu you're principles then you're only lying to yourself.

I said I, Me, Have principles that I, Me, Myself, would be willing to die for, not principles that I would be willing to have other people die for.
Title: the kirk principle
Post by: Schweinepriester G. on September 25, 2004, 11:15:26 AM
Kirk had no principles?
1. Kill the Klingons
2. Fuck the prime directive
3. Get the girl

An that kobayashi maru test is stupid anyway
Title: the kirk principle
Post by: Rupert Giles on September 25, 2004, 11:16:52 AM
Quote from: Schweinepriester G.Kirk had no principles?
1. Kill the Klingons
2. Fuck the prime directive
3. Get the girl

An that kobayashi maru test is stupid anyway

Number 2 and 3 may be condensed into a single rule.
Title: the kirk principle
Post by: Horab Fibslager on September 25, 2004, 11:20:09 AM
Quote from: Revered Son Eric
Quote from: Schweinepriester G.Kirk had no principles?
1. Kill the Klingons
2. Fuck the prime directive
3. Get the girl

An that kobayashi maru test is stupid anyway

Number 2 and 3 may be condensed into a single rule.

wtf? stfu.

as for the kobayashi maru i think it's a killer test. i love to play games i can't win.
Title: the kirk principle
Post by: namu on September 25, 2004, 03:47:29 PM
QuoteKirk had no principles?
1. Kill the Klingons
2. Fuck the prime directive
3. Get the girl
4. Reverse some polarity.
Now combine this with 3.
Title: the kirk principle
Post by: chaosgraves:agentoferis on September 25, 2004, 06:08:04 PM
Quote from: Wenchmaster KWait...isn't the willingness to die for a cause kind of the definition of a fanatic?
all fanatics die (loose paraphrase)