I'm not sure whether to laugh or punch someone: http://jjroid.com/2011/09/starbucks-what-happened-to-you/
This poor man has been DISCRIMINATED against by Starbucks, who had the nerve to ask him to please not hang out in their store for hours using their space as a free office.
DISCRIMINATION, I SAY!
This nice blogger has some good comments about it: http://www.popehat.com/2011/09/23/are-freakishly-entitled-pretentious-douches-a-suspect-class/
OH, THAT'S JUST LIKE WHAT HITLER DID!
This is exactly the kind of thing the Founding Fathers warned could happen to America, if it abandoned limited constitutional government and embraced socialism.
THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA FIX THIS IS BY LOWERING TAXES.
/
:cheney:
Quote from: Nigel on September 23, 2011, 08:09:52 PM
I'm not sure whether to laugh or punch someone: http://jjroid.com/2011/09/starbucks-what-happened-to-you/
This poor man has been DISCRIMINATED against by Starbucks, who had the nerve to ask him to please not hang out in their store for hours using their space as a free office.
DISCRIMINATION, I SAY!
This nice blogger has some good comments about it: http://www.popehat.com/2011/09/23/are-freakishly-entitled-pretentious-douches-a-suspect-class/
So... sitting in Starbucks and using their wifi for two and half hours while spending less than $5 on their products is likely to get you booted, eh? I also like how dude doesn't mention whether or not there is a large crowd, which clicking the link to location in Google maps has all the reviews saying that it's rather crowded and there's always a line, so.... :lulz:
It's a Starbucks on Broadway.
I doubt many people go there. It's not like Broadway is a well known area of New York or anything...
Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2011, 08:25:27 PM
It's a Starbucks on Broadway.
I doubt many people go there. It's not like Broadway is a well known area of New York or anything...
:lol:
What do you think? You think that'll get approved?
(http://i.imgur.com/L0Lwc.jpg)
:lulz:
Quote from: Alty on September 23, 2011, 08:33:01 PM
What do you think? You think that'll get approved?
(http://i.imgur.com/L0Lwc.jpg)
:lulz:
The "I want it, therefore I am entitled to it, so you must GIVE ME IT for FREE" attitude gives me hives.
And by "hives," I mean "the distinct urge to slap the everloving fuck out of people."
I didn't read the article yet, but isn't it part of the point of Starbucks that you get to go there, buy a coffee and work on your laptop?
That's what I did in NY, the coffee places were like the only places where you could comfortably chill for a while without bleeding money.
(except that I always gave them 15-20% tip which I later learned is not necessary in coffee places, so maybe they liked me extra much for that. I felt really bad even that one time in Boston (just before we lunched w LMNO) when they processed my credit card like really quickly and he already punched in the price before I realized I could have written a tip on the receipt ... Suu conditioned me well, I completely felt like I was totally robbing the coffee place guy out of being able to buy bread this week--do they really get paid more than regular waiters? Because waiters DO much more? SO ... CONFUSING)
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 23, 2011, 08:55:57 PM
I didn't read the article yet, but isn't it part of the point of Starbucks that you get to go there, buy a coffee and work on your laptop?
That's what I did in NY, the coffee places were like the only places where you could comfortably chill for a while without bleeding money.
(except that I always gave them 15-20% tip which I later learned is not necessary in coffee places, so maybe they liked me extra much for that. I felt really bad even that one time in Boston (just before we lunched w LMNO) when they processed my credit card like really quickly and he already punched in the price before I realized I could have written a tip on the receipt ... Suu conditioned me well, I completely felt like I was totally robbing the coffee place guy out of being able to buy bread this week--do they really get paid more than regular waiters? Because waiters DO much more? SO ... CONFUSING)
You should read the article. The guy bought coffee and a bagel, and then sat there for almost three hours. The district manager very politely asked him if he would like to order anything else, and let him know that they prefer to reserve their seating for customers who are currently enjoying their beverage.
It's totally cool pretty much everywhere to hang out in a cafe and use your laptop. It's also, at least in my experience, considered pretty rude/simply not done to assume that buying a cup of coffee entitles you to use the space as an office for the rest of the day. A couple of hours? Sure. But if you want to keep hanging out after that, buy something.
The point of Starbucks to have the same tasting cup of coffee no matter which location you go to in the country. They have wifi to lure people in, and most places are fine with you being there for long periods of time...so long as isn't interfering with their profits.
In fact, they like people sitting in there, it gives it that "Welcome home, make yourself comfortable (BUY MORE COFFEE) feeling they love to foster. But say you're in charge of a place and you constantly have people rushing in for a quick breakfast and a bunch of them walk out thoughout every hour because some guy who bought one cup of coffee is taking up a seat.
Their point is to make money. What kills me about this guy is he seems to buy into their happy, home-like face and is now disappointed. Like they give a shit about him instead of his money.
I don't think he's going to approve my comments. :lulz: He's approved other people's comments since I posted.
He claims that it wasn't busy and that there were other seats available. Frankly, based on location and reviews, I don't believe him. And, on top of that, I would guess that this is part of a pattern of behavior for him; that he was approached about it because he consistently occupies their space for many hours on end without making an additional purchase.
Quote from: Nigel on September 23, 2011, 09:00:14 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 23, 2011, 08:55:57 PM
I didn't read the article yet, but isn't it part of the point of Starbucks that you get to go there, buy a coffee and work on your laptop?
That's what I did in NY, the coffee places were like the only places where you could comfortably chill for a while without bleeding money.
(except that I always gave them 15-20% tip which I later learned is not necessary in coffee places, so maybe they liked me extra much for that. I felt really bad even that one time in Boston (just before we lunched w LMNO) when they processed my credit card like really quickly and he already punched in the price before I realized I could have written a tip on the receipt ... Suu conditioned me well, I completely felt like I was totally robbing the coffee place guy out of being able to buy bread this week--do they really get paid more than regular waiters? Because waiters DO much more? SO ... CONFUSING)
You should read the article. The guy bought coffee and a bagel, and then sat there for almost three hours. The district manager very politely asked him if he would like to order anything else, and let him know that they prefer to reserve their seating for customers who are currently enjoying their beverage.
It's totally cool pretty much everywhere to hang out in a cafe and use your laptop. It's also, at least in my experience, considered pretty rude/simply not done to assume that buying a cup of coffee entitles you to use the space as an office for the rest of the day. A couple of hours? Sure. But if you want to keep hanging out after that, buy something.
... and now I want a bagel. We don't have real bagels here. We got torus-shaped breads that are
called bagels, but they're not really real. They need some sort of boiling thing to make the skin chewy? Perhaps even in lye? I dunno don't think they do that here so it's just torus breads, not bagels. (with cream cheese, of course) (we do have that, it's pretty much the same)
About the story it depends IMO, if it was really busy then I think they have a really good point. If there were seats free I think they don't. Not because that's normal, or proper, but as Alty says because StarBucks actively tries to radiate an atmosphere like that. But if he's occupying seats, I can understand.
Also StarBucks is like a really big chain, so I'm always rooting for the little guy even if he's being an entitled prick.
... I'm going to read the article now, honest!
JJ:
QuoteWas it the combination of flip-flops, jeans, a t-shirt with an iron-on "Kubuntu" logo complimented by the blue Wal-Mart hoodie that had dog fur on it that instigated all this?
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA...hoo hoo.......PLTHKAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
God damn it I love this country.
I've always worked on the assumption that you were buying your seat with your drinks in a coffee shop, and had to keep on buying to keep them (and this was in a small town).
I suppose financial analysts are being recruited from poorer educational backgrounds nowadays, if he's a native New Yorker and yet hadn't figured this out.
The fact that he's a financial analyst makes the whole thing oodles more funny!
It also gives a bad name to financial analysts. Both my best friend and Mr. Language are financial analysts by trade.
No offense to your friend, Nigel, but being a financial analyst gives financial analysts a bad name. :lulz:
I see he doesn't mention the possibility that the fact that he apparently does this several times a week could be the reason they pitched his sorry ass out.
Quote from: Luna on September 23, 2011, 09:31:31 PM
I see he doesn't mention the possibility that the fact that he apparently does this several times a week could be the reason they pitched his sorry ass out.
That's the best part! :lulz:
Panera just has a timed wifi thing that makes you 1) create an account and 2) sign in and then get timed before it goes off. So you get your business done within that timeframe, extra food or no, or you lose your wifi.
Go to a fucking diner, I say--better people and the coffee is like $.95, you get free refills. Or maybe I've watched too much "Twin Peaks" in my lifetime...
I thought the best part was he thought sitting in a coffee shop working on a laptop was a form of social interaction
Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2011, 09:35:11 PM
I thought the best part was he thought sitting in a coffee shop working on a laptop was a form of social interaction
OHSHI-! I didn't even think of that, Cain. :lulz:
Ok, having read the article, I do think they could have been nicer to him. However his blog reaction is WAY over the top :) :)
If he was a regular and they knew him, they could have cut him some slack IMO. He said he usually buys more there, after all.
Mostly because it's a Star Bucks, of all things. I can imagine if it's next to your apartment, it's nice to have a second living room like that.
I can imagine it's a crappy experience, personally I'd have bought another coffee, the time he was there is just on the edge of where I think they could have kicked him out, I'd be a bit upset about such a scene too, but I wouldn't have written a blog about it like that :)
He should research a really much more "living room" kind of place near where he lives that's mom-n-pop that tends to ACTUALLY cater to the kind of schtick he thinks he's engaging in. Instead of expecting corporations to fucking give a shit about his "experience" as a consumer.
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on September 23, 2011, 09:28:34 PM
No offense to your friend, Nigel, but being a financial analyst gives financial analysts a bad name. :lulz:
Well, she has a masters in Public Health, and she works for hospitals. Doing stuff too obscure for me to even understand, but somehow or other it's supposed to decrease people's chances of dying.
Quote from: Jenne on September 23, 2011, 09:39:20 PM
He should research a really much more "living room" kind of place near where he lives that's mom-n-pop that tends to ACTUALLY cater to the kind of schtick he thinks he's engaging in. Instead of expecting corporations to fucking give a shit about his "experience" as a consumer.
Except that he's clearly socially completely inept, and would never think about that.
Quote from: Jenne on September 23, 2011, 09:39:20 PM
He should research a really much more "living room" kind of place near where he lives that's mom-n-pop that tends to ACTUALLY cater to the kind of schtick he thinks he's engaging in. Instead of expecting corporations to fucking give a shit about his "experience" as a consumer.
True. I'd probably have bought another coffee, felt upset about the whole episode and then do just that :)
It's just, I can imagine the disappointment, he thought he found such a place. but yeah you need to be wary of corps.
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 23, 2011, 09:37:03 PM
Ok, having read the article, I do think they could have been nicer to him. However his blog reaction is WAY over the top :) :)
If he was a regular and they knew him, they could have cut him some slack IMO. He said he usually buys more there, after all.
Mostly because it's a Star Bucks, of all things. I can imagine if it's next to your apartment, it's nice to have a second living room like that.
I can imagine it's a crappy experience, personally I'd have bought another coffee, the time he was there is just on the edge of where I think they could have kicked him out, I'd be a bit upset about such a scene too, but I wouldn't have written a blog about it like that :)
Odds are good that they didn't cut him slack because he's a regular and they know him and he has become a problem.
Quote from: Nigel on September 23, 2011, 09:44:31 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 23, 2011, 09:37:03 PM
Ok, having read the article, I do think they could have been nicer to him. However his blog reaction is WAY over the top :) :)
If he was a regular and they knew him, they could have cut him some slack IMO. He said he usually buys more there, after all.
Mostly because it's a Star Bucks, of all things. I can imagine if it's next to your apartment, it's nice to have a second living room like that.
I can imagine it's a crappy experience, personally I'd have bought another coffee, the time he was there is just on the edge of where I think they could have kicked him out, I'd be a bit upset about such a scene too, but I wouldn't have written a blog about it like that :)
Odds are good that they didn't cut him slack because he's a regular and they know him and he has become a problem.
Yeah. If he comes in two or three days a week and sits for 4 or 5 hours without buying anything and then decides he wants another coffee, and stays another 4 hours, then, well, it seems like he's pushing it a little to me...
It's sad because neighborhood coffee shops used to BE that way, back in the day--like bars but with caffeine peddled along with greasy food...you'd come, shoot the shit at the cranky fry cook and the saucy, overworked and underpaid waitresses...sling back a few cups of coffee, yakking it up with the regulars or just reading the morning paper in a leisurely fashion. Coffee houses were artsy living room places where you'd sit on a couch and muse for hours about the color of navel lint and how hateful life had become since they dropped the H Bomb.
And then STARBUCKS came along, professing to be the one-stop-shop, etc., for all things caffeineted...including your meetings, your downtime and your social hour.
Fuck this guy for believing the hype (he used to work for them, for chrissakes, he knew the drill), and fuck this guy for blogging yet another example as to why our culture sucks in many, MANY ways.
I bet I could sit in my local coffee shop for hours without buying anything. Hell, they refuse to let me pay for anything there. But that's because I'm Special and JJ is not.
Headline: LIBERTARIAN THROWN OUT OF STARBUCKS FOR LOITERING EXPLODES NATIONAL IRONY METER.
I worked in a local coffee shop 20 years ago and it was never anything but "holy shit that guy is creepy as fuck" when someone was there by themselves for more than about two hours without buying anything beyond their initial purchase. People have always brought books and studied, and people meet their friends and hang out talking, but occupying a table or couch for hours, and not buying anything more, has not ever, in my experience, really been considered anything but weird/rude.
I know lots of people who go to cafes to work, and that's usually a mutually beneficial arrangement; they get free wifi and a place to park their ass, and the cafe gets their business. My ex used to spend all day in a cafe, coding. But he also bought something no less than every two hours... that's just the etiquette. Mr. Language often works at the cafe near his house, and also buys something every couple of hours. It's just how people do it. You don't expect use of the space unless you're engaging in the activity the space is meant for... consuming the store's products.
So no, I don't think this guy was being a total raging freak for hanging out in a coffeeshop. I do, however, think that he breached the bounds of common courtesy, and that his reaction to being asked to buy something or GTFO is completely spoiled and absurd.
Quote from: ϗ, M.S. on September 23, 2011, 10:10:07 PM
Headline: LIBERTARIAN THROWN OUT OF STARBUCKS FOR LOITERING EXPLODES NATIONAL IRONY METER.
:lulz:
I have to agree. I mean, I've been known to go to Panera for lunch (a treat for myself to get the fuck out of the house) and bring the laptop with me when I have shit to do. But when I'm done eating or drinking, I LEAVE. Time's up. Where he gets off thinking it's not still a business that's being operated, I just have no clue...regardless of how corporate-big-boy Starbucks is in wanna-be-small-time-clothing...he still was an ass in his own regard.
Trip, speaking as a former barista, THANK YOU for that tip. For some people, that money is what lets them fucking eat for the week.
Sometimes I like taking care of my schoolwork in a coffee-shop around crowds of busy people. I focus better when I'm surrounded by busy people.
But when I do that, I have the consideration to keep a drink on me at all times. Sure, sometimes I'll nurse a cup of coffee for a half an hour or more, but when it's gone I buy another. If I can't afford it, or if I've had enough coffee, I go to a park or a library to sit and work.
Quote from: Jasper on September 23, 2011, 10:52:19 PM
Sometimes I like taking care of my schoolwork in a coffee-shop around crowds of busy people. I focus better when I'm surrounded by busy people.
But when I do that, I have the consideration to keep a drink on me at all times. Sure, sometimes I'll nurse a cup of coffee for a half an hour or more, but when it's gone I buy another. If I can't afford it, or if I've had enough coffee, I go to a park or a library to sit and work.
Yes... given that that's what libraries are for, it makes perfect sense to spend hours in a library. I think people get confused about that.
Even bookstores are better places to park for hours and do stuff... and when I worked in a bookstore, the cafe would chase people out when they wanted to camp out for hours with books. That's what the couches in the bookstore were for, and the tables in the cafe were for people with food and drink.
Lots of libraries I've been to have a really wrong vibe for academic work though. The weak attempts at modernity at the grievous expense of comfort and shelf-space, the lack of old book smell, and the quiet desperation... It can be hard to find a library that has a good library feel to it.
Quote from: Jasper on September 23, 2011, 11:01:38 PM
Lots of libraries I've been to have a really wrong vibe for academic work though. The weak attempts at modernity at the grievous expense of comfort and shelf-space, the lack of old book smell, and the quiet desperation... It can be hard to find a library that has a good library feel to it.
Yeah, but if you're looking for a place with a roof where you can hang out for hours on end for free, they can't be beat.
True! I'd love to find a late night library that had a bar.
...I should open a late night library with a bar. :link:
Quote from: Nigel on September 23, 2011, 09:42:35 PM
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on September 23, 2011, 09:28:34 PM
No offense to your friend, Nigel, but being a financial analyst gives financial analysts a bad name. :lulz:
Well, she has a masters in Public Health, and she works for hospitals. Doing stuff too obscure for me to even understand, but somehow or other it's supposed to decrease people's chances of dying.
I'm not 100% certain that I'm on board with that either, but good on her. :lulz:
Quote from: Nigel on September 23, 2011, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: Jasper on September 23, 2011, 11:01:38 PM
Lots of libraries I've been to have a really wrong vibe for academic work though. The weak attempts at modernity at the grievous expense of comfort and shelf-space, the lack of old book smell, and the quiet desperation... It can be hard to find a library that has a good library feel to it.
Yeah, but if you're looking for a place with a roof where you can hang out for hours on end for free, they can't be beat.
This is probably why the public library in Portsmouth has a continuous problem with crack dealing, prostitution, and homeless crazy people stabbing each other and random patrons. :lulz:
Not kidding either, just before we left on this trip they had to resort to hiring armed guards.
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on September 23, 2011, 11:55:58 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 23, 2011, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: Jasper on September 23, 2011, 11:01:38 PM
Lots of libraries I've been to have a really wrong vibe for academic work though. The weak attempts at modernity at the grievous expense of comfort and shelf-space, the lack of old book smell, and the quiet desperation... It can be hard to find a library that has a good library feel to it.
Yeah, but if you're looking for a place with a roof where you can hang out for hours on end for free, they can't be beat.
This is probably why the public library in Portsmouth has a continuous problem with crack dealing, prostitution, and homeless crazy people stabbing each other and random patrons. :lulz:
Not kidding either, just before we left on this trip they had to resort to hiring armed guards.
That is exactly why.
Needless to say, I love the Portsmouth Public Library.
Quote from: Jasper on September 23, 2011, 11:08:10 PM
True! I'd love to find a late night library that had a bar.
...I should open a late night library with a bar. :link:
Squiddy had another idea about a bar that was win as well. *scratches head* I disremember exactly wtf it was, however.
Quote from: Nigel on September 23, 2011, 09:44:31 PM
Odds are good that they didn't cut him slack because he's a regular and they know him and he has become a problem.
I'm almost certain this is the case.
A corporation like Starbucks pushes a "Legendary Service" protocol on their baristas (or at least did when I worked there and when my wife managed one). If some guy came in and sat for 3 hours or more even, I doubt they'd throw him out. If some guy came in every day and did this, the issue becomes a problem.
It's interesting, too, that the DM was the one who said something. Usually a manager would handle things like this in the store, but the fact that the DM did it seems to imply that Starbucks was looking to make sure they approached the guy in an Human Relations compliant way. IIRC, if one were to ban someone from the store (for whatever reason), the manager would need the say-so from HR.
Finally, along with the entitlement idea, it's AMAZING how many Starbucks customers are like that. But Starbucks is also to blame for creating that snobbery culture to begin with. The wife once had a regular customer who would come in and park his full size RV in a small mall strip parking lot and walk in with a goddamn parrot on his shoulder. -- "Sir, you can't bring that bird in here." and the guy just flipped the fuck out overturning chairs and cursing.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3342/3177170025_c7e9d087f2.jpg)
Quote from: Jasper on September 23, 2011, 11:08:10 PM
True! I'd love to find a late night library that had a bar.
...I should open a late night library with a bar. :link:
A LiBARy!
Quote from: Jasper on September 23, 2011, 11:08:10 PM
True! I'd love to find a late night library that had a bar.
...I should open a late night library with a bar. :link:
Fuck, I'd be willing to fund such a venture.
Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2011, 09:35:11 PM
I thought the best part was he thought sitting in a coffee shop working on a laptop was a form of social interaction
Yeah, his little list of "fond memories of social interaction" (which I can't quote exactly because his original blog post has apparently been [RESOLVED], but I remember it included watching someone's computer while she took a piss and a miscommunication leading to what he seemed to feel was a life-long friendship) just screamed "creepy, socially inept, potential sex offender" I can't imagine why the fine people at Starbucks (especially the female employees) would want this guy to leave.
"Resolved" eh? Is that what kids are calling "making an ass of myself on my blog and then removing the embarrassing evidence" nowadays?
You should read the replacement post. It actually makes this twit seem even more self-absorbed (which I didn't think was possible).
Oh my God, what a douchebag.
I don't even think I can read it. Not this early in the morning. I was going to say that I can't believe he took down his OP, but actually that's exactly the kind of thing people like that do.
I'll check Ken's law blog for entertaining commentary, it's bound to be good.
Quote from: Cain on September 24, 2011, 12:13:51 PM
Quote from: Jasper on September 23, 2011, 11:08:10 PM
True! I'd love to find a late night library that had a bar.
...I should open a late night library with a bar. :link:
Fuck, I'd be willing to fund such a venture.
And I'd be willing to be the bartender and do some short order cooking.
I would patronize the hell out of a place like that.
Quote from: Bu☆ns on September 24, 2011, 08:53:52 AM
Quote from: Nigel on September 23, 2011, 09:44:31 PM
Odds are good that they didn't cut him slack because he's a regular and they know him and he has become a problem.
I'm almost certain this is the case.
A corporation like Starbucks pushes a "Legendary Service" protocol on their baristas (or at least did when I worked there and when my wife managed one). If some guy came in and sat for 3 hours or more even, I doubt they'd throw him out. If some guy came in every day and did this, the issue becomes a problem.
It's interesting, too, that the DM was the one who said something. Usually a manager would handle things like this in the store, but the fact that the DM did it seems to imply that Starbucks was looking to make sure they approached the guy in an Human Relations compliant way. IIRC, if one were to ban someone from the store (for whatever reason), the manager would need the say-so from HR.
Finally, along with the entitlement idea, it's AMAZING how many Starbucks customers are like that. But Starbucks is also to blame for creating that snobbery culture to begin with. The wife once had a regular customer who would come in and park his full size RV in a small mall strip parking lot and walk in with a goddamn parrot on his shoulder. -- "Sir, you can't bring that bird in here." and the guy just flipped the fuck out overturning chairs and cursing.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3342/3177170025_c7e9d087f2.jpg)
I was wondering about that myself. The only time I think the DM we had came out for something like that was this dude who would skateboard around the store and threatened the manager when he asked him not to do so.
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on September 24, 2011, 05:35:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 24, 2011, 12:13:51 PM
Quote from: Jasper on September 23, 2011, 11:08:10 PM
True! I'd love to find a late night library that had a bar.
...I should open a late night library with a bar. :link:
Fuck, I'd be willing to fund such a venture.
And I'd be willing to be the bartender and do some short order cooking.
Literary/Book themed bars are doing pretty well here in PDX:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/09/portlands_literary_bar_scene_g.html
Quote from: Jasper on September 23, 2011, 11:08:10 PM
True! I'd love to find a late night library that had a bar.
...I should open a late night library with a bar. :link:
If you could handle the inevitable weird I'd bring with, I would travel to go to a place like this, if it was on the continental US.
Hot damn. This may be my brilliant idea of the year.
Now to figure out how this sort of thing is done...
You'll want to start by drawing up an outline of a business plan (no sense getting into the nitty gritty details until you have several other things sorted out) and figuring out how you're going to secure financing.
Quote from: Jasper on September 23, 2011, 11:08:10 PM
True! I'd love to find a late night library that had a bar.
I hope this what lovecraft tavern is like
Quote
...I should open a late night library with a bar. :link:
There's a tavern here called afk where you can get dnd sourcebooks with your drinks
Quote from: Brian Fnord on September 24, 2011, 10:09:52 PM
Quote from: Jasper on September 23, 2011, 11:08:10 PM
True! I'd love to find a late night library that had a bar.
I hope this what lovecraft tavern is like
Quote
...I should open a late night library with a bar. :link:
There's a tavern here called afk where you can get dnd sourcebooks with your drinks
afk sucks balls. overpriced shitty drinks. And they fucked up my Guinness.
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on September 24, 2011, 09:45:38 PM
You'll want to start by drawing up an outline of a business plan (no sense getting into the nitty gritty details until you have several other things sorted out) and figuring out how you're going to secure financing.
I will. This would be a great project for when I move back to Seattle in a couple years.
If you do this in Seattle and not Portland, I'm DEFINITELY in.
And yeah, AFK fucking sucks.
It would go over and how in a place like Seattle. I hope you make it work, Felix.
It would be incredibly cool.
Now I wonder what is worse, the entitled douche from the OP, or this guy that actually wrote a guide on working from coffeeshosp and not getting kicked out:
http://dcfounders.com/2011/09/entrepreneurs-guide-to-coffee-shops/
At least he's not being douchy and entitled about it and recommends tipping, but WTF ... this is a startup "thing" :|
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 29, 2011, 03:50:44 PM
Now I wonder what is worse, the entitled douche from the OP, or this guy that actually wrote a guide on working from coffeeshosp and not getting kicked out:
http://dcfounders.com/2011/09/entrepreneurs-guide-to-coffee-shops/
At least he's not being douchy and entitled about it and recommends tipping, but WTF ... this is a startup "thing" :|
It's a reality that people do this, so it's not really such a bad thing that the guy provided a guide to the (apparently incredibly socially inept) would-be IT entrepreneurs who are going to use coffeeshops as their offices anyway.
Although, I gotta say, at $300-$1000/month, unless they really need the social bustle of being in a coffeeshop they're better off renting someone's spare room for an office.
Annnnnnnd suddenly I remember that the room EFO is currently in is wired as an office. HMMMMMMM. I can see that being a $400/month income generator, alla sudden.
Quote from: Nigel on September 29, 2011, 04:10:34 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 29, 2011, 03:50:44 PM
Now I wonder what is worse, the entitled douche from the OP, or this guy that actually wrote a guide on working from coffeeshosp and not getting kicked out:
http://dcfounders.com/2011/09/entrepreneurs-guide-to-coffee-shops/
At least he's not being douchy and entitled about it and recommends tipping, but WTF ... this is a startup "thing" :|
It's a reality that people do this, so it's not really such a bad thing that the guy provided a guide to the (apparently incredibly socially inept) would-be IT entrepreneurs who are going to use coffeeshops as their offices anyway.
Although, I gotta say, at $300-$1000/month, unless they really need the social bustle of being in a coffeeshop they're better off renting someone's spare room for an office.
Annnnnnnd suddenly I remember that the room EFO is currently in is wired as an office. HMMMMMMM. I can see that being a $400/month income generator, alla sudden.
That's a great idea...
Quote from: Nigel on September 29, 2011, 04:10:34 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 29, 2011, 03:50:44 PM
Now I wonder what is worse, the entitled douche from the OP, or this guy that actually wrote a guide on working from coffeeshosp and not getting kicked out:
http://dcfounders.com/2011/09/entrepreneurs-guide-to-coffee-shops/
At least he's not being douchy and entitled about it and recommends tipping, but WTF ... this is a startup "thing" :|
It's a reality that people do this, so it's not really such a bad thing that the guy provided a guide to the (apparently incredibly socially inept) would-be IT entrepreneurs who are going to use coffeeshops as their offices anyway.
Although, I gotta say, at $300-$1000/month, unless they really need the social bustle of being in a coffeeshop they're better off renting someone's spare room for an office.
Annnnnnnd suddenly I remember that the room EFO is currently in is wired as an office. HMMMMMMM. I can see that being a $400/month income generator, alla sudden.
Hire a vending and coffee machine, and you're set.
:lulz: Vending machines! Shit yeah!
There is something strangely hard to resist about a well stocked vending machine. Especially the newer models, with their robots arms and crap. I mean, I'd pay just to watch the machine moving stuff around.
Quote from: Nigel on September 29, 2011, 04:10:34 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 29, 2011, 03:50:44 PM
Now I wonder what is worse, the entitled douche from the OP, or this guy that actually wrote a guide on working from coffeeshosp and not getting kicked out:
http://dcfounders.com/2011/09/entrepreneurs-guide-to-coffee-shops/
At least he's not being douchy and entitled about it and recommends tipping, but WTF ... this is a startup "thing" :|
It's a reality that people do this, so it's not really such a bad thing that the guy provided a guide to the (apparently incredibly socially inept) would-be IT entrepreneurs who are going to use coffeeshops as their offices anyway.
Although, I gotta say, at $300-$1000/month, unless they really need the social bustle of being in a coffeeshop they're better off renting someone's spare room for an office.
That's my main whut about it.
That, and the fact that a lot of coffeeshops make for really crappy offices and this "social bustle" sounds more like wanting to be part of some "scene" or other.
QuoteAnnnnnnnd suddenly I remember that the room EFO is currently in is wired as an office. HMMMMMMM. I can see that being a $400/month income generator, alla sudden.
That's a pretty good idea!
Plus you'll be renting it out to someone who wants to be left alone during work hours, just like you :)
You could even share tips about staving off that roommate of yours :) :) [after office hours, of course]
The hyphens. :lulz:
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 29, 2011, 06:36:19 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 29, 2011, 04:10:34 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 29, 2011, 03:50:44 PM
Now I wonder what is worse, the entitled douche from the OP, or this guy that actually wrote a guide on working from coffeeshosp and not getting kicked out:
http://dcfounders.com/2011/09/entrepreneurs-guide-to-coffee-shops/
At least he's not being douchy and entitled about it and recommends tipping, but WTF ... this is a startup "thing" :|
It's a reality that people do this, so it's not really such a bad thing that the guy provided a guide to the (apparently incredibly socially inept) would-be IT entrepreneurs who are going to use coffeeshops as their offices anyway.
Although, I gotta say, at $300-$1000/month, unless they really need the social bustle of being in a coffeeshop they're better off renting someone's spare room for an office.
That's my main whut about it.
That, and the fact that a lot of coffeeshops make for really crappy offices and this "social bustle" sounds more like wanting to be part of some "scene" or other.
QuoteAnnnnnnnd suddenly I remember that the room EFO is currently in is wired as an office. HMMMMMMM. I can see that being a $400/month income generator, alla sudden.
That's a pretty good idea!
Plus you'll be renting it out to someone who wants to be left alone during work hours, just like you :)
You could even share tips about staving off that roommate of yours :) :) [after office hours, of course]
OMG YESSSS
In my fantasy, I will be evicting the horrible housemate in a month or two, and getting a nice normal person who works days. And then Nigel's Palace will be a peaceful haven of contentment and productivity.
Quote from: Suu on September 29, 2011, 08:46:25 PM
The hyphens. :lulz:
That cracked me up, too.
Seriously wish the original blog post, in all its crazytown glory, was still up.