The interesting thing about my condition is that I am by no means alone. The whole world is receiving bad signal, and acting accordingly. We have a financial crisis caused not by production conditions, but because we've lost control of our method of counting production. Everyone thinks there's some kind of rewind button that can "bring us back to constitutionality". People think there's a "government" fucking everything up. Paranoid delusions...Only this, and nothing more.
The whole damn world is crammed in the club car, arguing over who's going to drive the train. They're fighting in the life boat, and tearing up the planks to use as clubs to show the "other side" who the fucking boss is around here.
Look around you. The People labor under the delusion that police are here to protect the public, ignoring completely that the stated mission of every police department in the country is to preserve order. And the cops are crazier than the general public. To them, people are to be beaten and arrested for daring to take part in the business of The People. To them, people are dangerous monkeys who will lash out and kill anyone who tries to keep the peace, given half a chance. Again, paranoia.
Our entire world civilization is sick. In Africa, children are soldiers. Here, they're a political football and the subject of deep distrust. In China, they're a source of cheap, bone-crushing labor so that fat people on the far side of the planet can have more electronic communications devices with which they will totally ignore any information about the kids in China. In Russia, children are whores. In England, they're clay ducks and punching bags for the cops.
So don't tell me about crazy. I know crazy when I see it. And we Doktors know a hopeless case when we see one. The patient is terminal...There is no further good that a Doktor can accomplish, here. Someone call a fucking priest.
I see all of this. I see all of this and more, for I have fled to the very edge of the world, here in Tucson. From here, I can see all the stupid, miserable shit that primates do to themselves and each other, for no other reason than they think they're helping.
So, yeah, you will not be saved by the OWS or the Tea Party or the Libertarians. You will not be saved by the stimulus plan or the global effort at recovery. You will not be saved by Eris or "Maybe Logic" or even by the End of Days, which hasn't arrived yet, and doesn't look particularly imminent.
In fact, you won't be saved.
No, you'll live in your condition of "Supermodern Living", in your cities that are designed for vehicles to pass through, rather than for people to live in. You see all those rock stars houses on "Cribs" on MTV or wherever the hell it was? They're all painted in beige and white...Airport colors. Here to go. There is no place designed for primates to use to relax. Gotta run, gotta go, gotta chase that Goddamn mechanical rabbit right up to the finish line, which I'm pretty sure is a eight by four by six foot hole in the ground, surrounded by the spectators that got the afternoon off to see you plunked into your grave.
And your headstone can read "Rest At Last". Until they turf your bones up to make room for the next strip mall or parking lot or shitty McMansion, and the next fucking stooge can take HIS place on the treadmill, to be bombarded by images of shit he doesn't need but absolutely MUST have so he can rack up HIS personal debt to fatback jackasses who run what we laughably call our "banking system".
That's fucking crazy. It's insane. It is in fact so Goddamn bonkers that if you wrote a novel about it, nobody would fucking read it, because it would be too unbelievable. And then we wonder where the Oswalds and the Kaczinskis come from. We wonder why some primates jabber under bridges or in shelters. We know they're nuts, but we won't face up to WHY.
Mostly, I think, because most people are just barely hanging on as it is, and nobody wants to look at what happens when you fall screaming all the way down to the Ajo Street bridge.
It's all a fucking trap, a horrible trap that we spend the last 500 years building for ourselves. Some of us have pointed out the trap, what with the BIP and all...But that's not the same as pulling your foot out of it, is it? We laugh at the people who say that we should deliberately stick our appendages in, for America™ and FREEDOM™ and for the Free Market™, but what have we done to NOT put our extremities in the meat grinder? What CAN we do? Don't ask me, because I don't fucking know. If I knew, I wouldn't be writing this rambling fucking rant, I'd be off DOING it.
I'm not telling you to go screaming this shit from the rooftops, because that also leads to that bridge. I'm not telling you to STICK IT TO THE MAN, because any method of doing that has already been identified and tagged and counteracted by The Machine™. I MIGHT suggest that you take a cheap shot at any cracks you see in The Machine™, silently, without saying a fucking word. Mis-filings, busted widgets, intentional "mistaken" information given at random, whatever the hell you can get away with, and don't come bragging to me or anyone else. We aren't here to join the local Trustafarian shitheads who are out to garner prestige for their acts of derring-do, we're here to be a random factor that can't be pinned down, because even WE don't know what the effects of our actions will be. A pebble might start an avalanche, but remember that the pebble goes down the hill, too, and it gets ground up along the way. Better to be that "quantum butterfly" bullshit in day to day life.
And fuck spreading the word. Down that path lies guru-ism. Lead by example...Nobody has to see you, they just have to see the results, and that it is POSSIBLE to send things a little sideways, and they'll jump right in. Trust me on this, for I am a crazy person, and we know these things.
Enough said.
Okay for now,
Dok
QuoteI MIGHT suggest that you take a cheap shot at any cracks you see in The Machine™, silently, without saying a fucking word. Mis-filings, busted widgets, intentional "mistaken" information given at random, whatever the hell you can get away with, and don't come bragging to me or anyone else. We aren't here to join the local Trustafarian shitheads who are out to garner prestige for their acts of derring-do, we're here to be a random factor that can't be pinned down, because even WE don't know what the effects of our actions will be. A pebble might start an avalanche, but remember that the pebble goes down the hill, too, and it gets ground up along the way. Better to be that "quantum butterfly" bullshit in day to day life.
Amen.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 19, 2011, 06:54:41 PM
And fuck spreading the word. Down that path lies guru-ism. Lead by example...Nobody has to see you, they just have to see the results, and that it is POSSIBLE to send things a little sideways, and they'll jump right in. Trust me on this, for I am a crazy person, and we know these things.
All of it, but especially this.
And you know, it's OK to risk everything, because they're coming to steamroller it anyway.
Quote from: Howard BealeI don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's work, banks are going bust, shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter. Punks are running wild in the street and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there's no end to it. We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TV's while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be. We know things are bad - worse than bad. They're crazy. It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out anymore. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, 'Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone.' Well, I'm not gonna leave you alone. I want you to get mad! I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot - I don't want you to write to your congressman because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street. All I know is that first you've got to get mad. You've got to say, 'I'm a HUMAN BEING, Goddamnit! My life has VALUE!' So I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell, 'I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!' I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - 'I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... You've got to say, 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Then we'll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it: "I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"
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QuoteWe sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, 'Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my Ipod and my internet and my American Idol and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone.'
It aint "our" civilisation. It's "theirs". Whoever wants to fix it aint "we" it's "them"
I aint part of this. I aint a citizen, I'm the worst kind of parasite. I'm more than happy to enjoy all the whizzy little electronic gizmos and fancy teevee shows that I can steal but make no mistake. Civilisation won't get any help from me. It's sinking and I got my lifeboat all safely stashed away where I can get to in in a heartbeat. I couldn't give a fuck if it sinks and I sure as hell ain't going to try to stop it. Like you said the pebble goes downhill too. Why should I care enough to try and help? Wasn't my idea to come down out the trees and then completely destroy the planet. Wasn't my idea to form a bunch of imaginary territories all following different imaginary beings. Wasn't my idea to fight over the dumbest shit imaginable or turn 99% of the population into dumb fucking slaves.
I just don't care. About any of it. It's all going to burn, I'm going to try my best to stay out the way while it does. I'm not an hero. I'm a self serving cunt, just like most of the rest of them if they could only admit it to themselves. In a society this sick being a sociopath is the only sensible philosophy. Shuck off your conditioning give up on the whole human race. They're pointless, they're stupid, they're ugly and they're fucking dangerous. Most of them will either die or carry on like mindless zombies. Why should I give the shadow of the ghost of a flying fuck about them? Good riddance.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 19, 2011, 07:24:37 PM
It aint "our" civilisation. It's "theirs". Whoever wants to fix it aint "we" it's "them"
If we didn't like it, we wouldn't pay for it.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 19, 2011, 07:24:37 PM
I aint part of this. I aint a citizen, I'm the worst kind of parasite. I'm more than happy to enjoy all the whizzy little electronic gizmos and fancy teevee shows that I can steal but make no mistake. Civilisation won't get any help from me. It's sinking and I got my lifeboat all safely stashed away where I can get to in in a heartbeat. I couldn't give a fuck if it sinks and I sure as hell ain't going to try to stop it. Like you said the pebble goes downhill too. Why should I care enough to try and help? Wasn't my idea to come down out the trees and then completely destroy the planet. Wasn't my idea to form a bunch of imaginary territories all following different imaginary beings. Wasn't my idea to fight over the dumbest shit imaginable or turn 99% of the population into dumb fucking slaves.
I have no lifeboat. I want to see it all up-close. I don't want to miss a thing.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 19, 2011, 07:24:37 PM
I just don't care. About any of it. It's all going to burn, I'm going to try my best to stay out the way while it does. I'm not an hero. I'm a self serving cunt, just like most of the rest of them if they could only admit it to themselves. In a society this sick being a sociopath is the only sensible philosophy. Shuck off your conditioning give up on the whole human race. They're pointless, they're stupid, they're ugly and they're fucking dangerous. Most of them will either die or carry on like mindless zombies. Why should I give the shadow of the ghost of a flying fuck about them? Good riddance.
They're also the only game in town.
I'm a citizen, and so are my kids. I raised them to be citizens.
I'm mad as hell, but I'm also tired and discouraged. The person who was supposed to be my partner and ally turned out to be a shallow mirage of image and vaguely-stated intentions. The bank won't work with me on my mortgage. I'm two fingers from the brink at all times, and the worst part is that I'm fighting despair in order to be productive; if I wasn't fighting despair, I'd be more effective.
Fuck this.
Quote from: Nigel on October 19, 2011, 07:31:17 PM
I'm a citizen, and so are my kids. I raised them to be citizens.
I'm mad as hell, but I'm also tired and discouraged. The person who was supposed to be my partner and ally turned out to be a shallow mirage of image and vaguely-stated intentions. The bank won't work with me on my mortgage. I'm two fingers from the brink at all times, and the worst part is that I'm fighting despair in order to be productive; if I wasn't fighting despair, I'd be more effective.
Fuck this.
Yeah, but you're also about to have a massive creative binge.
I can tell.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 19, 2011, 07:32:48 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 19, 2011, 07:31:17 PM
I'm a citizen, and so are my kids. I raised them to be citizens.
I'm mad as hell, but I'm also tired and discouraged. The person who was supposed to be my partner and ally turned out to be a shallow mirage of image and vaguely-stated intentions. The bank won't work with me on my mortgage. I'm two fingers from the brink at all times, and the worst part is that I'm fighting despair in order to be productive; if I wasn't fighting despair, I'd be more effective.
Fuck this.
Yeah, but you're also about to have a massive creative binge.
I can tell.
That would be fan fucking tastic.
Quote from: Nigel on October 19, 2011, 07:35:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 19, 2011, 07:32:48 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 19, 2011, 07:31:17 PM
I'm a citizen, and so are my kids. I raised them to be citizens.
I'm mad as hell, but I'm also tired and discouraged. The person who was supposed to be my partner and ally turned out to be a shallow mirage of image and vaguely-stated intentions. The bank won't work with me on my mortgage. I'm two fingers from the brink at all times, and the worst part is that I'm fighting despair in order to be productive; if I wasn't fighting despair, I'd be more effective.
Fuck this.
Yeah, but you're also about to have a massive creative binge.
I can tell.
That would be fan fucking tastic.
Yep. You always go a little sideways before you blitz. Like Joe Theisman, only without the busted-ass leg.
As you said, they are the only game in town. So let's play. We can't be saved, but I'm sure as hell going to have a good time going down on the A-bomb, just like Slim Pickens. And fuck being saved anyway. I mean, you can't have a monkey free planet if there's still one monkey, right? So I'm going to enjoy all of this. And continue to laugh and jeer. We are aware of our trap, and we can see the outcome, and still we keep going for it. Why not? There is no out, so might as well make a masochistic ritual out of it, and enjoy the hell out of it, while you do. The good times are still rolling, and I... I'm still laughing.
Doktor Phox,
Okay, for once.
Quote from: Doktor Phox on October 19, 2011, 07:47:17 PM
As you said, they are the only game in town. So let's play. We can't be saved, but I'm sure as hell going to have a good time going down on the A-bomb, just like Slim Pickens. And fuck being saved anyway. I mean, you can't have a monkey free planet if there's still one monkey, right? So I'm going to enjoy all of this. And continue to laugh and jeer. We are aware of our trap, and we can see the outcome, and still we keep going for it. Why not? There is no out, so might as well make a masochistic ritual out of it, and enjoy the hell out of it, while you do. The good times are still rolling, and I... I'm still laughing.
Doktor Phox,
Okay, for once.
Some things I can laugh about.
Some things (child soldiers/prostitutes, etc), I can at best manage a feeble chuckle, because what I really want to do is tear someone's head off.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 19, 2011, 07:37:20 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 19, 2011, 07:35:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 19, 2011, 07:32:48 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 19, 2011, 07:31:17 PM
I'm a citizen, and so are my kids. I raised them to be citizens.
I'm mad as hell, but I'm also tired and discouraged. The person who was supposed to be my partner and ally turned out to be a shallow mirage of image and vaguely-stated intentions. The bank won't work with me on my mortgage. I'm two fingers from the brink at all times, and the worst part is that I'm fighting despair in order to be productive; if I wasn't fighting despair, I'd be more effective.
Fuck this.
Yeah, but you're also about to have a massive creative binge.
I can tell.
That would be fan fucking tastic.
Yep. You always go a little sideways before you blitz. Like Joe Theisman, only without the busted-ass leg.
I had to look him up. :x
I have this vision I haven't been able to get out of my head, of an old man in a white coat standing at an autopsy table. You can tell he's a Doktor by the round glasses. The corpse is split down the front and its abdominal cavity is held open with wires; inside, it's full of clockwork gears, and moth pupae are hatching and flying out of it. Underwing moths, like so:
(http://i1.treknature.com/photos/2/red_underwing_.jpg)
Coming out by the dozens, just like they used to emerge from the tangled turf of my back yard every fall.
Quote from: Nigel on October 19, 2011, 08:00:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 19, 2011, 07:37:20 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 19, 2011, 07:35:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 19, 2011, 07:32:48 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 19, 2011, 07:31:17 PM
I'm a citizen, and so are my kids. I raised them to be citizens.
I'm mad as hell, but I'm also tired and discouraged. The person who was supposed to be my partner and ally turned out to be a shallow mirage of image and vaguely-stated intentions. The bank won't work with me on my mortgage. I'm two fingers from the brink at all times, and the worst part is that I'm fighting despair in order to be productive; if I wasn't fighting despair, I'd be more effective.
Fuck this.
Yeah, but you're also about to have a massive creative binge.
I can tell.
That would be fan fucking tastic.
Yep. You always go a little sideways before you blitz. Like Joe Theisman, only without the busted-ass leg.
I had to look him up. :x
I have this vision I haven't been able to get out of my head, of an old man in a white coat standing at an autopsy table. You can tell he's a Doktor by the round glasses. The corpse is split down the front and its abdominal cavity is held open with wires; inside, it's full of clockwork gears, and moth pupae are hatching and flying out of it. Underwing moths, like so:
(http://i1.treknature.com/photos/2/red_underwing_.jpg)
Coming out by the dozens, just like they used to emerge from the tangled turf of my back yard every fall.
Pic is busted.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 19, 2011, 07:49:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on October 19, 2011, 07:47:17 PM
As you said, they are the only game in town. So let's play. We can't be saved, but I'm sure as hell going to have a good time going down on the A-bomb, just like Slim Pickens. And fuck being saved anyway. I mean, you can't have a monkey free planet if there's still one monkey, right? So I'm going to enjoy all of this. And continue to laugh and jeer. We are aware of our trap, and we can see the outcome, and still we keep going for it. Why not? There is no out, so might as well make a masochistic ritual out of it, and enjoy the hell out of it, while you do. The good times are still rolling, and I... I'm still laughing.
Doktor Phox,
Okay, for once.
Some things I can laugh about.
Some things (child soldiers/prostitutes, etc), I can at best manage a feeble chuckle, because what I really want to do is tear someone's head off.
Yes, there's no such thing as a healthy laugh with me anymore. It's all maniacal shrieking that passes as laughter if you're deaf and blind, but nevertheless it's the only thing between me and them these days. It's the Spiders, Dok. The Spiders have been stalking me for awhile now., making everything seem far away and intangible. Just a little too far out for me to care... but I don't like the pills, Dok. So I sometimes only pretend to take them. And then the laughing starts again.
But I can still feel that little bit of web in my hair. Just enough that I notice, and just little enough that I can't quite pin point it to comb it out. And no matter how much I comb it doesn't come out.... And it feels warmer and safer the more my hand passes near it. And I reach for the pills and kick them aside. They make me sleep, and when I sleep I dream. I dream about all of the things that make me want to hide.
I wake up laughing, laughing like Alex from
A Clockwork Orange. I feel real horrorshow after that, and generally think that I don't need the pills. Mess with the Gulliver too much, you know.
But then something happens. I hear the ninth and that nauseous feeling returns and makes me beg for the pills again.
I hear the ninth in police sirens, and out of the mouths of tea partiers, and even the mouths of children anymore....
But it's the only song they ever play, and I don't like the pills. So it's laugh or puke, and if I puke, I'm afraid that it won't ever stop. I feel the same about the laughing, but at least when I'm laughing my guts don't feel like they are falling out right along with whatever else is in there.
Phox,
Still okay.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 19, 2011, 08:02:30 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 19, 2011, 08:00:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 19, 2011, 07:37:20 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 19, 2011, 07:35:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 19, 2011, 07:32:48 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 19, 2011, 07:31:17 PM
I'm a citizen, and so are my kids. I raised them to be citizens.
I'm mad as hell, but I'm also tired and discouraged. The person who was supposed to be my partner and ally turned out to be a shallow mirage of image and vaguely-stated intentions. The bank won't work with me on my mortgage. I'm two fingers from the brink at all times, and the worst part is that I'm fighting despair in order to be productive; if I wasn't fighting despair, I'd be more effective.
Fuck this.
Yeah, but you're also about to have a massive creative binge.
I can tell.
That would be fan fucking tastic.
Yep. You always go a little sideways before you blitz. Like Joe Theisman, only without the busted-ass leg.
I had to look him up. :x
I have this vision I haven't been able to get out of my head, of an old man in a white coat standing at an autopsy table. You can tell he's a Doktor by the round glasses. The corpse is split down the front and its abdominal cavity is held open with wires; inside, it's full of clockwork gears, and moth pupae are hatching and flying out of it. Underwing moths, like so:
Coming out by the dozens, just like they used to emerge from the tangled turf of my back yard every fall.
Pic is busted.
Does this one work?
(http://greennature.com/gallery/moth-pictures/underwing.jpg)
No. When I try to open the image in a new tab, it says "You don't have permission to access /gallery/moth-pictures/underwing.jpg on this server."
ETA: That's the right image location. It looks like they have hotlinking images disabled.
ETA2: Now it works for me. I guess once I have visited their site and seen their ads, there's a cookie on my computer that allows me to see the hotlinked image.
Bitches don't want us to know about their moths. :(
I deleted my cookie from their site, and now their moth image is broken for me again.
I dl'ed image and put on imgur.
(http://i.imgur.com/yX9D2.jpg)
Dreams... I remember, not so long ago, wishing that I could remember my dreams. I didn't, not really. Once in awhile, I'd wake up with a flash, a couple still shots, like my brain sending photos back from vacation. I wanted to remember, I wanted more.
I didn't know how good I had it.
Sure, some I remember now are pretty cool. Riding shotgun with Richter through a fucked up version of the wilds near Tuscon, Dimo strapped to the roof wasting the big-ass scorpions, that's pretty wild. (We're getting closer to the city, now, almost close enough to make out the features of the bald man standing on a throne of bones, screaming at the city.)
The rest...
They can go back. I don't want them any more. There's shit I don't want to relive, knowing now what I didn't know then. The could have beens, the probably will never bes, the what if I'd onlys, the wish I had the balls tos... Return to sender. They're the wrong size, the wrong color, not what I ordered.
Even worse are the ones I don't remember... All I know is I wake up in the middle of the night. I'm screaming... I'm crying... I'm reaching, searching the other side of the bed for someone who's never really been there... Or I'm laughing, that sick, brittle laugh that, if you let it loose on a city street, people move away from you...
Load THAT shit in the fucking baggage car. Lose the suitcase, that's fine, I didn't want it, anyway.
Quote from: Precious Moments Zalgo on October 19, 2011, 09:23:37 PM
I deleted my cookie from their site, and now their moth image is broken for me again.
I dl'ed image and put on imgur.
(http://i.imgur.com/yX9D2.jpg)
Thank you.
It is very important that people see the moths.
Not sure what to say, here. But I get it. I get it real good.
bump/project
Firstly, I think Frank would not approve.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YftSWkNUvts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YftSWkNUvts), at 2.21 in particular, but all of it is prime content)
Secondly, may I respectfully ask for clarification of the purpose of such hyperbolic flights extreme pessimism?
Do you people really get this desperate at least periodically, or am I missing something here?
My impression is that most places (some, such as Somalia, almost impossible, some, like here hard but not infeasible) a comfortable and upright life is to be had in the cracks. I love to brag, but actually I know several dozen people with the same experience, many of them distributed around the globe. I'm surprised and tempted to ask, why are you so stressed out? (If you are and not just playin' at it.)
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 06:51:43 PM
Firstly, I think Frank would not approve.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YftSWkNUvts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YftSWkNUvts), at 2.21 in particular, but all of it is prime content)
Secondly, may I respectfully ask for clarification of the purpose of such hyperbolic flights extreme pessimism?
Do you people really get this desperate at least periodically, or am I missing something here?
My impression is that most places (some, such as Somalia, almost impossible, some, like here hard but not infeasible) a comfortable and upright life is to be had in the cracks. I love to brag, but actually I know several dozen people with the same experience, many of them distributed around the globe. I'm surprised and tempted to ask, why are you so stressed out? (If you are and not just playin' at it.)
It's an American™ thing, Holist. You wouldn't understand. I mean, you COULD understand, if you went to Providence or Portland or Tucson and spent maybe FOREVER there.
Our country was founded, recently by your standards, by crazy people that couldn't get along where you are. Things haven't improved. No. We have 312 million people all breathing their own farts and creating loops of bad signal to provide themselves with feedback.
Just go look at a few Tea Party websites. You'll see what I mean.
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 06:56:39 PM
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 06:51:43 PM
Firstly, I think Frank would not approve.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YftSWkNUvts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YftSWkNUvts), at 2.21 in particular, but all of it is prime content)
Secondly, may I respectfully ask for clarification of the purpose of such hyperbolic flights extreme pessimism?
Do you people really get this desperate at least periodically, or am I missing something here?
My impression is that most places (some, such as Somalia, almost impossible, some, like here hard but not infeasible) a comfortable and upright life is to be had in the cracks. I love to brag, but actually I know several dozen people with the same experience, many of them distributed around the globe. I'm surprised and tempted to ask, why are you so stressed out? (If you are and not just playin' at it.)
It's an American™ thing, Holist. You wouldn't understand. I mean, you COULD understand, if you went to Providence or Portland or Tucson and spent maybe FOREVER there.
Our country was founded, recently by your standards, by crazy people that couldn't get along where you are. Things haven't improved. No. We have 312 million people all breathing their own farts and creating loops of bad signal to provide themselves with feedback.
Just go look at a few Tea Party websites. You'll see what I mean.
I think you have an idealistic view of the over here. Tends to happen if you look from very far away. In fact there is no shortage of Idiotic Masses
TM here, either. It is enough to watch any mainstream US news intended for US consumption for 10 minutes to cotton on to the fact that there is something wrong with a population who will not vote with feet on that garbage... but it's the same here, with only superficial differences of flavour. As against your bid of the amazing Tea Party, I give you "Jobbik", (literally translated as "The Better One"), a de facto racist party with nazi leanings, composed of people benighted to a degree I often entirely lack empathy for.
They even have an English-language page of sorts: http://www.jobbik.com/ (http://www.jobbik.com/) for your delectation. Though the pictures speak for themselves.
Oh, and in an EU member-state, some 35% of the population now has trouble (occasional to constant) obtaining sufficient daily bread.
And yet, I contend, a decent life is available to anyone with a mind to it. So the question stands: why so blue?
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 07:08:18 PM
I think you have an idealistic view of the over here.
I've been to Europe many times. Trust me, it's different. We have The Fear stamped into us from age 5 til death, and it shows.
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 07:08:18 PM
And yet, I contend, a decent life is available to anyone with a mind to it. So the question stands: why so blue?
Blue? Who the fuck is blue? I teeter between anger and laughter (Not the healthy kind. Think of the sound of bats and some chick singing
Fur Elise.), not depression.
Just checked that link out.
When they're about 45% of your population, let me know.
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 07:16:57 PM
I've been to Europe many times. Trust me, it's different. We have The Fear stamped into us from age 5 til death, and it shows.
Well, I've never been to the States, so I'll have to. And I am pretty sure it is very different. But there are always cracks in the brickwork, and pleasant little places to live in. They don't last and vigilance is essential, but still. Is all. You strike me as someone who enjoys that teetering between anger and mad laughter, in a twisted sort of way. Which, then, seems to mean you chose your habitat wisely, no? Have you been to Eastern Europe?
For your information, they are near 40 percent in some constituencies. Around 20 on average, among people with a definite preference. Meanwhile, over half the eligible population don't intend to vote at the next elections. Not good.
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 07:25:34 PM
You strike me as someone who enjoys that teetering between anger and mad laughter, in a twisted sort of way.
Well, sure. Otherwise I'd just turn on the TV and go to sleep.
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 07:33:38 PM
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 07:25:34 PM
You strike me as someone who enjoys that teetering between anger and mad laughter, in a twisted sort of way.
Well, sure. Otherwise I'd just turn on the TV and go to sleep.
You make it sound like that's the only other option! :lulz:
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 07:36:07 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 07:33:38 PM
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 07:25:34 PM
You strike me as someone who enjoys that teetering between anger and mad laughter, in a twisted sort of way.
Well, sure. Otherwise I'd just turn on the TV and go to sleep.
You make it sound like that's the only other option! :lulz:
It's the one I like.
Also, what is wrong with my hobby?
I mean, I can write a more upbeat, cheerful rant if you'd like.
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 08:32:03 PM
I mean, I can write a more upbeat, cheerful rant if you'd like.
If it's not too much trouble, I for one would like to read it.
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 08:58:06 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 08:32:03 PM
I mean, I can write a more upbeat, cheerful rant if you'd like.
If it's not too much trouble, I for one would like to read it.
Okay, but remember that you asked for it. Maybe today, maybe tomorrow. I just have to think up something NICE and CHEERFUL to write about.
I suggest cookies and pie.
Quote from: Cain on September 24, 2012, 09:09:34 PM
I suggest cookies and pie.
I think I can work that in. I have a few other ideas, too, most of which will require a lot of googling concerning popular "culture".
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:02:35 PM
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 08:58:06 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 08:32:03 PM
I mean, I can write a more upbeat, cheerful rant if you'd like.
If it's not too much trouble, I for one would like to read it.
Okay, but remember that you asked for it. Maybe today, maybe tomorrow. I just have to think up something NICE and CHEERFUL to write about.
No, no, that's not what I meant at all! Can you rant about the
same things in a more upbeat, cheerful manner?
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 09:11:21 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:02:35 PM
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 08:58:06 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 08:32:03 PM
I mean, I can write a more upbeat, cheerful rant if you'd like.
If it's not too much trouble, I for one would like to read it.
Okay, but remember that you asked for it. Maybe today, maybe tomorrow. I just have to think up something NICE and CHEERFUL to write about.
No, no, that's not what I meant at all! Can you rant about the same things in a more upbeat, cheerful manner?
Oh, yeah. I can definitely do that.
Ever see a Walrus in a tutu? You're about to.
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:12:21 PM
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 09:11:21 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:02:35 PM
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 08:58:06 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 08:32:03 PM
I mean, I can write a more upbeat, cheerful rant if you'd like.
If it's not too much trouble, I for one would like to read it.
Okay, but remember that you asked for it. Maybe today, maybe tomorrow. I just have to think up something NICE and CHEERFUL to write about.
No, no, that's not what I meant at all! Can you rant about the same things in a more upbeat, cheerful manner?
Oh, yeah. I can definitely do that.
Ever see a Walrus in a tutu? You're about to.
I'm all eyes!
I may as well. The rant I wrote today got a whacking 2 responses.
So I'll be really, really, really cheerful from now on. You're gonna love it.
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:19:09 PM
I may as well. The rant I wrote today got a whacking 2 responses.
So I'll be really, really, really cheerful from now on. You're gonna love it.
Why do I get the feeling that this is gonna be like one of the Bowl Judgements straight out of the Revelation of St. John?
Only with more dildos.
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 09:23:23 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:19:09 PM
I may as well. The rant I wrote today got a whacking 2 responses.
So I'll be really, really, really cheerful from now on. You're gonna love it.
Why do I get the feeling that this is gonna be like one of the Bowl Judgements straight out of the Revelation of St. John?
Only with more dildos.
Bosh. It's gonna be fun for the whole family,
just like the concentration camps were.
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:24:30 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 09:23:23 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:19:09 PM
I may as well. The rant I wrote today got a whacking 2 responses.
So I'll be really, really, really cheerful from now on. You're gonna love it.
Why do I get the feeling that this is gonna be like one of the Bowl Judgements straight out of the Revelation of St. John?
Only with more dildos.
Bosh. It's gonna be fun for the whole family, just like the concentration camps were.
Pick me up something from the Buchenwald gift shop, bitte.
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 09:37:38 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:24:30 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 09:23:23 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:19:09 PM
I may as well. The rant I wrote today got a whacking 2 responses.
So I'll be really, really, really cheerful from now on. You're gonna love it.
Why do I get the feeling that this is gonna be like one of the Bowl Judgements straight out of the Revelation of St. John?
Only with more dildos.
Bosh. It's gonna be fun for the whole family, just like the concentration camps were.
Pick me up something from the Buchenwald gift shop, bitte.
Now, now. That sounds almost
unpleasant.
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:40:39 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 09:37:38 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:24:30 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 09:23:23 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:19:09 PM
I may as well. The rant I wrote today got a whacking 2 responses.
So I'll be really, really, really cheerful from now on. You're gonna love it.
Why do I get the feeling that this is gonna be like one of the Bowl Judgements straight out of the Revelation of St. John?
Only with more dildos.
Bosh. It's gonna be fun for the whole family, just like the concentration camps were.
Pick me up something from the Buchenwald gift shop, bitte.
Now, now. That sounds almost unpleasant.
But it's not, right, 'cos you know him IRL, right?
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 09:43:19 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:40:39 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 09:37:38 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:24:30 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 09:23:23 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:19:09 PM
I may as well. The rant I wrote today got a whacking 2 responses.
So I'll be really, really, really cheerful from now on. You're gonna love it.
Why do I get the feeling that this is gonna be like one of the Bowl Judgements straight out of the Revelation of St. John?
Only with more dildos.
Bosh. It's gonna be fun for the whole family, just like the concentration camps were.
Pick me up something from the Buchenwald gift shop, bitte.
Now, now. That sounds almost unpleasant.
But it's not, right, 'cos you know him IRL, right?
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
What? No. What the hell are you talking about?
Sorry, nothing.
I unreservedly take that back.
I must have misunderstood what was going on.
:lulz:
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 09:43:19 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:40:39 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 09:37:38 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:24:30 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 09:23:23 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:19:09 PM
I may as well. The rant I wrote today got a whacking 2 responses.
So I'll be really, really, really cheerful from now on. You're gonna love it.
Why do I get the feeling that this is gonna be like one of the Bowl Judgements straight out of the Revelation of St. John?
Only with more dildos.
Bosh. It's gonna be fun for the whole family, just like the concentration camps were.
Pick me up something from the Buchenwald gift shop, bitte.
Now, now. That sounds almost unpleasant.
But it's not, right, 'cos you know him IRL, right?
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Actually I've only posted alongside of Fidel for the better part of a decade, but I've never actually met him IRL. We just happen to have the same sort of culturally inbred sense of humor. So we get on as we'll as two aging assholes do.
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 09:47:12 PM
Actually I've only posted alongside of Fidel for the better part of a decade, but I've never actually met him IRL. We just happen to have the same sort of culturally inbred sense of humor. So we get on as we'll as two aging assholes do.
Okay, I understand that, sir. My point though, stands: long, reliable acquaintance, if not actual IRL.
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 09:51:11 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 09:47:12 PM
Actually I've only posted alongside of Fidel for the better part of a decade, but I've never actually met him IRL. We just happen to have the same sort of culturally inbred sense of humor. So we get on as we'll as two aging assholes do.
Okay, I understand that, sir. My point though, stands: long, reliable acquaintance, if not actual IRL.
And that point would be what, precisely?
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:51:47 PM
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 09:51:11 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 09:47:12 PM
Actually I've only posted alongside of Fidel for the better part of a decade, but I've never actually met him IRL. We just happen to have the same sort of culturally inbred sense of humor. So we get on as we'll as two aging assholes do.
Okay, I understand that, sir. My point though, stands: long, reliable acquaintance, if not actual IRL.
And that point would be what, precisely?
That my joke about Buchenwald was dark? But see, if you can't laugh at the horrible, what point is there in laughter?
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 09:55:00 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:51:47 PM
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 09:51:11 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 09:47:12 PM
Actually I've only posted alongside of Fidel for the better part of a decade, but I've never actually met him IRL. We just happen to have the same sort of culturally inbred sense of humor. So we get on as we'll as two aging assholes do.
Okay, I understand that, sir. My point though, stands: long, reliable acquaintance, if not actual IRL.
And that point would be what, precisely?
That my joke about Buchenwald was dark? But see, if you can't laugh at the horrible, what point is there in laughter?
Actually, I think it is somehow dealing with people being treated differently or something.
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:51:47 PM
And that point would be what, precisely?
That you know him long enough and well enough to let him crack a joke about the Buchenwald gift-shop (once a popular budget holiday destination with my grandparents and their wider social circle), while in what I feel are somewhat similar situations in the past involving me, you automatically assumed, and then kept hammering on the interpretation that would cast me in a bad light.
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 09:56:25 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:51:47 PM
And that point would be what, precisely?
That you know him long enough and well enough to let him crack a joke about the Buchenwald gift-shop (once a popular budget holiday destination with my grandparents and their wider social circle), while in what I feel are somewhat similar situations in the past involving me, you automatically assumed, and then kept hammering on the interpretation that would cast me in a bad light.
So, let me get this straight: It is somehow unusual that I take comments from people I've known since 2002 differently than I might take them from a person who is basically a complete stranger?
Is that your complaint? I'd just like to be sure.
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:57:34 PM
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 09:56:25 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:51:47 PM
And that point would be what, precisely?
That you know him long enough and well enough to let him crack a joke about the Buchenwald gift-shop (once a popular budget holiday destination with my grandparents and their wider social circle), while in what I feel are somewhat similar situations in the past involving me, you automatically assumed, and then kept hammering on the interpretation that would cast me in a bad light.
So, let me get this straight: It is somehow unusual that I take comments from people I've known since 2002 differently than I might take them from a person who is basically a complete stranger?
Is that your complaint? I'd just like to be sure.
No, not a complaint! Just an observation.
As indicated by the laughing clown figures, I found it funny.
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 09:59:34 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:57:34 PM
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 09:56:25 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:51:47 PM
And that point would be what, precisely?
That you know him long enough and well enough to let him crack a joke about the Buchenwald gift-shop (once a popular budget holiday destination with my grandparents and their wider social circle), while in what I feel are somewhat similar situations in the past involving me, you automatically assumed, and then kept hammering on the interpretation that would cast me in a bad light.
So, let me get this straight: It is somehow unusual that I take comments from people I've known since 2002 differently than I might take them from a person who is basically a complete stranger?
Is that your complaint? I'd just like to be sure.
No, not a complaint! Just an observation.
As indicated by the laughing clown figures, I found it funny.
What laughing clowns? You mean the guy with the party hat and the cigarette?
Also, that's like observing that the sky is blue or that water is wet. It's something that should be completely obvious to anyone.
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 09:56:25 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 09:51:47 PM
And that point would be what, precisely?
That you know him long enough and well enough to let him crack a joke about the Buchenwald gift-shop (once a popular budget holiday destination with my grandparents and their wider social circle), while in what I feel are somewhat similar situations in the past involving me, you automatically assumed, and then kept hammering on the interpretation that would cast me in a bad light.
I don't think that's out of the norm for human relationships. That's why it's generally a good idea to treat Interbutt communication like you would any other human interaction, unless your goal is troll someone. Especially if its a group with prevailing social norms and ideas about things that may differ from your own. You have to become a known commodity with the group before you can truly sound off on topics that may be heterodox for the group as a whole.
After all. Only Nixon could go to China.
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 10:01:28 PM
It's something that should be completely obvious to anyone.
Well, sue me.
:lulz:
yes, the guys with the party hats and cigars
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 10:01:28 PM
It's something that should be completely obvious to anyone.
Well, sue me.
:lulz:
yes, the guys with the party hats and cigars
In your part of Belgium, do strangers automatically get the same level of credibility and/or leeway that long-established friends/acquaintances get?
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 10:06:43 PM
In your part of Belgium, do strangers automatically get the same level of credibility and/or leeway that long-established friends/acquaintances get?
Well no, but they don't get beaten up or molested at the door, either.
And idiots are humoured. (Why did that occur to me?)
As long as they don't stain the carpet.
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 10:09:45 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 10:06:43 PM
In your part of Belgium, do strangers automatically get the same level of credibility and/or leeway that long-established friends/acquaintances get?
Well no, but they don't get beaten up or molested at the door, either.
And idiots are humoured. (Why did that occur to me?)
As long as they don't stain the carpet.
You didn't even use a coaster, dude.
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 10:09:45 PM
Well no, but they don't get beaten up or molested at the door, either.
I was unaware that you were such a delicate flower. I shall alter my behavior accordingly.
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 10:11:47 PM
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 10:09:45 PM
Well no, but they don't get beaten up or molested at the door, either.
I was unaware that you were such a delicate flower. I shall alter my behavior accordingly.
Actually, I think I prefer to get used to it.
Quote from: Luna on September 24, 2012, 10:10:48 PM
You didn't even use a coaster, dude.
Okay, you win that one!
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 10:01:28 PM
It's something that should be completely obvious to anyone.
Well, sue me.
:lulz:
yes, the guys with the party hats and cigars
If I may be allowed to attempt to play peacemaker (which is probably a discordian sin, but fuck it I DO WHAT I WANT) you're taking the literal reading of Fidel far too literally. He does not like you. He does not like me. He's here to fuck with you. Fuck with him back.
And then just let it go. If I say something stupid or otherwise contrary to the othordox opinions of the group, I expect to be reamed (and honestly, I'm not certain how I've made it posting here as long as I have without being reamed, I feel unloved). You should expect the same. Apologize (or don't) and move on (the important thing is to move on). Eventually he'll realize that hitting a specific button of yours has reached the point of diminishing returns and move on to a different button or someone else's buttons entirely.
Which is kind of the message - don't be so fucking greyfaced.
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 10:17:04 PM
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 10:01:28 PM
It's something that should be completely obvious to anyone.
Well, sue me.
:lulz:
yes, the guys with the party hats and cigars
If I may be allowed to attempt to play peacemaker (which is probably a discordian sin, but fuck it I DO WHAT I WANT) you're taking the literal reading of Fidel far too literally. He does not like you. He does not like me. He's here to fuck with you. Fuck with him back.
And then just let it go. If I say something stupid or otherwise contrary to the othordox opinions of the group, I expect to be reamed (and honestly, I'm not certain how I've made it posting here as long as I have without being reamed, I feel unloved). You should expect the same. Apologize (or don't) and move on (the important thing is to move on). Eventually he'll realize that hitting a specific button of yours has reached the point of diminishing returns and move on to a different button or someone else's buttons entirely.
Which is kind of the message - don't be so fucking greyfaced.
I like EVERYONE. Every snotty little primate on the planet. No, it's different now. I LOVE You People with the fire of 10,000 suns. I love all you fuckers so much that I want to hump your collective leg out of sheer good-fellowship. We need more love here. For everyone. I want to see more love, and I want to see it now. Already, the horrible parasites that live in my arse are quivering with friendliness and a desire to get to know you all a little better. So there you have it...Love & parasites, from Fidel to all of you stinking fucked-up mangy crapulous poop-flinging butthole-sniffing monkeys.
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 10:21:54 PM
I like EVERYONE. Every snotty little primate on the planet. No, it's different now. I LOVE You People with the fire of 10,000 suns. I love all you fuckers so much that I want to hump your collective leg out of sheer good-fellowship. We need more love here. For everyone. I want to see more love, and I want to see it now. Already, the horrible parasites that live in my arse are quivering with friendliness and a desire to get to know you all a little better. So there you have it...Love & parasites, from Fidel to all of you stinking fucked-up mangy crapulous poop-flinging butthole-sniffing monkeys.
YAY!
AMEN!
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 10:17:04 PM
If I may be allowed to attempt to play peacemaker (which is probably a discordian sin, but fuck it I DO WHAT I WANT) you're taking the literal reading of Fidel far too literally. He does not like you. He does not like me. He's here to fuck with you. Fuck with him back.
And then just let it go. If I say something stupid or otherwise contrary to the othordox opinions of the group, I expect to be reamed (and honestly, I'm not certain how I've made it posting here as long as I have without being reamed, I feel unloved). You should expect the same. Apologize (or don't) and move on (the important thing is to move on). Eventually he'll realize that hitting a specific button of yours has reached the point of diminishing returns and move on to a different button or someone else's buttons entirely.
Which is kind of the message - don't be so fucking greyfaced.
Thanks, Internet Jesus!
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 10:21:54 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 10:17:04 PM
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 10:01:28 PM
It's something that should be completely obvious to anyone.
Well, sue me.
:lulz:
yes, the guys with the party hats and cigars
If I may be allowed to attempt to play peacemaker (which is probably a discordian sin, but fuck it I DO WHAT I WANT) you're taking the literal reading of Fidel far too literally. He does not like you. He does not like me. He's here to fuck with you. Fuck with him back.
And then just let it go. If I say something stupid or otherwise contrary to the othordox opinions of the group, I expect to be reamed (and honestly, I'm not certain how I've made it posting here as long as I have without being reamed, I feel unloved). You should expect the same. Apologize (or don't) and move on (the important thing is to move on). Eventually he'll realize that hitting a specific button of yours has reached the point of diminishing returns and move on to a different button or someone else's buttons entirely.
Which is kind of the message - don't be so fucking greyfaced.
I like EVERYONE. Every snotty little primate on the planet. No, it's different now. I LOVE You People with the fire of 10,000 suns. I love all you fuckers so much that I want to hump your collective leg out of sheer good-fellowship. We need more love here. For everyone. I want to see more love, and I want to see it now. Already, the horrible parasites that live in my arse are quivering with friendliness and a desire to get to know you all a little better. So there you have it...Love & parasites, from Fidel to all of you stinking fucked-up mangy crapulous poop-flinging butthole-sniffing monkeys.
You're still not getting into my pants, Fidel.
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 10:31:49 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 10:21:54 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 10:17:04 PM
Quote from: holist on September 24, 2012, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 10:01:28 PM
It's something that should be completely obvious to anyone.
Well, sue me.
:lulz:
yes, the guys with the party hats and cigars
If I may be allowed to attempt to play peacemaker (which is probably a discordian sin, but fuck it I DO WHAT I WANT) you're taking the literal reading of Fidel far too literally. He does not like you. He does not like me. He's here to fuck with you. Fuck with him back.
And then just let it go. If I say something stupid or otherwise contrary to the othordox opinions of the group, I expect to be reamed (and honestly, I'm not certain how I've made it posting here as long as I have without being reamed, I feel unloved). You should expect the same. Apologize (or don't) and move on (the important thing is to move on). Eventually he'll realize that hitting a specific button of yours has reached the point of diminishing returns and move on to a different button or someone else's buttons entirely.
Which is kind of the message - don't be so fucking greyfaced.
I like EVERYONE. Every snotty little primate on the planet. No, it's different now. I LOVE You People with the fire of 10,000 suns. I love all you fuckers so much that I want to hump your collective leg out of sheer good-fellowship. We need more love here. For everyone. I want to see more love, and I want to see it now. Already, the horrible parasites that live in my arse are quivering with friendliness and a desire to get to know you all a little better. So there you have it...Love & parasites, from Fidel to all of you stinking fucked-up mangy crapulous poop-flinging butthole-sniffing monkeys.
You're still not getting into my pants, Fidel.
So you say.
However, banking on a republican victory as promised by TLB, Frank, LARD, and Gaggie, I am already working on my newest product,
Pre-Roofied Beer: It's Not Legitimate Rape, therefore your statement may be a little premature.
I suppose that's better than the alternative product as given to us by the oakies, et al - shut the fuck up at least it's not a GOP cock in your rectum
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 10:38:20 PM
I suppose that's better than the alternative product as given to us by the oakies, et al - shut the fuck up at least it's not a GOP cock in your rectum
Yep. CB, also.
I always get a kick out of the reaction I get from the left over there when I bring up some of the more unpleasant realities of the 2006 congress and president Obama.
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 10:43:44 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 10:38:20 PM
I suppose that's better than the alternative product as given to us by the oakies, et al - shut the fuck up at least it's not a GOP cock in your rectum
Yep. CB, also.
I always get a kick out of the reaction I get from the left over there when I bring up some of the more unpleasant realities of the 2006 congress and president Obama.
That's why I don't do it. It detracts from my primary mission. But sweet Jesus, someone needs to do it, and in a competent way - not the way the current crop of idiots do it. I had hoped that Cubby could grow into it, but he just doesn't get that you've got to goad them into even greater levels of irrationality.
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 10:49:09 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 10:43:44 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 10:38:20 PM
I suppose that's better than the alternative product as given to us by the oakies, et al - shut the fuck up at least it's not a GOP cock in your rectum
Yep. CB, also.
I always get a kick out of the reaction I get from the left over there when I bring up some of the more unpleasant realities of the 2006 congress and president Obama.
That's why I don't do it. It detracts from my primary mission. But sweet Jesus, someone needs to do it, and in a competent way - not the way the current crop of idiots do it. I had hoped that Cubby could grow into it, but he just doesn't get that you've got to goad them into even greater levels of irrationality.
Cubby has spent the entire Obama administration in a sulk. You can't get him to do shit.
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 10:55:20 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 10:49:09 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 24, 2012, 10:43:44 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 24, 2012, 10:38:20 PM
I suppose that's better than the alternative product as given to us by the oakies, et al - shut the fuck up at least it's not a GOP cock in your rectum
Yep. CB, also.
I always get a kick out of the reaction I get from the left over there when I bring up some of the more unpleasant realities of the 2006 congress and president Obama.
That's why I don't do it. It detracts from my primary mission. But sweet Jesus, someone needs to do it, and in a competent way - not the way the current crop of idiots do it. I had hoped that Cubby could grow into it, but he just doesn't get that you've got to goad them into even greater levels of irrationality.
Cubby has spent the entire Obama administration in a sulk. You can't get him to do shit.
Even then he just doesn't understand that you can't win an argument. Your goal has to be a meltdown.