Whats the best ratio for mixing whiskywater?
I've been doing it about 1:1, but I haven't increased it because I don't want to dilute it too much.
May I ask why you are making whiskey water? Typically it would be a "splash" of water over a shot of whiskey. I can't just tell you how much a splash it, it's just...well, it's about that much, but it's more than a dash. :lulz:
Yeah, a decent splash. Or one or two little glugs.
NO MORE.
Also needs to be only slightly below room temp, don't put ice anywhere near that shit.
RINSE AND REPEAT UNTIL YOU GET ALL IRISH/SCOTTISH AT THE IMPERIALIST OPPRESSORS!
I HAVE SPOKEN
Alternatively, drink it neat if it's one of those plain bottles that just have WHISKEY written on them. This way also leads to HolinessTM
I've never done it, but if I did, it would be significantly less than 1:1 ratio. Like, maybe 4 parts whiskey to one part water, at the most.
Quote from: The Payne on November 06, 2011, 07:21:49 PM
Yeah, a decent splash. Or one or two little glugs.
NO MORE.
Also needs to be only slightly below room temp, don't put ice anywhere near that shit.
RINSE AND REPEAT UNTIL YOU GET ALL IRISH/SCOTTISH AT THE IMPERIALIST OPPRESSORS!
I HAVE SPOKEN
This is the only proper way to drink whiskey.
Quote from: The Payne on November 06, 2011, 07:22:49 PM
Alternatively, drink it neat if it's one of those plain bottles that just have WHISKEY written on them. This way also leads to HolinessTM
This is also true. Extra Holiness for whiskey that comes in plastic bottles.
My brother, who travelled far to the lands of Scotland and Ireland to learn many secrets about Whiskey, told me that some whiskeys may need about a teaspoon of water in it to "unlock the flavour" or something.
You know what may also be a nice idea, to get a plain whiskey and a glass of water. Then you can just take a sip and dilute it in your mouth to the preferred strength?
Never more than a little splash.
If it's good single malt, never any at all.
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on November 06, 2011, 07:35:52 PM
Never more than a little splash.
If it's good single malt, never any at all.
This.
Quote from: Suu on November 06, 2011, 07:55:03 PM
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on November 06, 2011, 07:35:52 PM
Never more than a little splash.
If it's good single malt, never any at all.
This.
Well it depends on who you ask, in many whiskeys (even the good ones) a splash of water is needed to open up the full taste of it.
However too much water is a mortal sin, and it is better to have none at all than too much.
I would only recommend a drop or two of cold water to open a whiskey. But no ice, ever.
Quote from: Suu on November 06, 2011, 07:17:59 PM
May I ask why you are making whiskey water? Typically it would be a "splash" of water over a shot of whiskey. I can't just tell you how much a splash it, it's just...well, it's about that much, but it's more than a dash. :lulz:
Making whiskey water because I can't taste the flavors if I take it straight, the alcohol burn is just too strong, and I've noticed the experience is much improved when I add water.
So thank you all. I shall ne'er add more than a splash, and never ice. I've been putting in cool, not cold, water. From the tap, because the tap water is excellent up here.
Of course, these "rules" are really just guidelines. Ultimately you should feel free to experiment and find out what makes it most enjoyable for you.
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on November 06, 2011, 08:51:14 PM
Of course, these "rules" are really just guidelines. Ultimately you should feel free to experiment and find out what makes it most enjoyable for you.
Yeah, that's my take on it too. For example, most people would say serve beer ice cold, but I only do that for lagers these days (and I seldom drink lagers; most North American lagers are shit). Ales, especially dark ales like porters and stouts, I like to cool down to 50 degrees, but not much colder. Too cold, and the flavors are dulled, and if I can't taste them what's the point of drinking a rich stout?
Reminds me of that old joke (that's not really a joke):
You know why the Brits like their beer warm?
Because the same people that make their cars make their refrigerators.
By the way, there are several excellent american lagers (though they may not be available where you are). Sessions is awesome, and New Belgium brewery out of Colorado (they make fat tire) makes a kickass lager as well. It's taken an unreasonably long time for lagers to make inroads in the american microbrew market but it's finally happening.
I prefer my bourbon whiskey neat, but some of them are better with a dollop of water. And once in a while in summer, I'll drink bourbon rocks.
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on November 06, 2011, 09:17:06 PM
Reminds me of that old joke (that's not really a joke):
You know why the Brits like their beer warm?
Because the same people that make their cars make their refrigerators.
By the way, there are several excellent american lagers (though they may not be available where you are). Sessions is awesome, and New Belgium brewery out of Colorado (they make fat tire) makes a kickass lager as well. It's taken an unreasonably long time for lagers to make inroads in the american microbrew market but it's finally happening.
Lagers really showed well last summer, for once. It's been years of people bitching about the preponderance of hoppy-ass ales. The proportion of IPA to all other varieties in the beer aisles is completely ridiculous. I especially want to kick in the face brewers who put out 6 different overhopped motherfucking ales, one stout, and one wheat beer, which for quite some time seemed to be ALL OF THEM.
I've heard from Willamette Valley farmers that a driving factor for all the hoppiness is that in order to farm hops in Oregon you need a contract with a brewer, and all the hop growers are friends with the brewers they produce for. I don't know the truth factor in that but I do know that we do not need any more beers that make me shit and sleep.
Some highland scotches, I find personally, are improved with a few drops, maybe even a teaspoon, of cold water. I don't know why.
You know, Faust mixes his with Coca Cola.
YOUR SECRET IS EXPOSED FAUST
Quote from: Nigel on November 06, 2011, 09:27:40 PM
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on November 06, 2011, 09:17:06 PM
Reminds me of that old joke (that's not really a joke):
You know why the Brits like their beer warm?
Because the same people that make their cars make their refrigerators.
By the way, there are several excellent american lagers (though they may not be available where you are). Sessions is awesome, and New Belgium brewery out of Colorado (they make fat tire) makes a kickass lager as well. It's taken an unreasonably long time for lagers to make inroads in the american microbrew market but it's finally happening.
Lagers really showed well last summer, for once. It's been years of people bitching about the preponderance of hoppy-ass ales. The proportion of IPA to all other varieties in the beer aisles is completely ridiculous. I especially want to kick in the face brewers who put out 6 different overhopped motherfucking ales, one stout, and one wheat beer, which for quite some time seemed to be ALL OF THEM.
I've heard from Willamette Valley farmers that a driving factor for all the hoppiness is that in order to farm hops in Oregon you need a contract with a brewer, and all the hop growers are friends with the brewers they produce for. I don't know the truth factor in that but I do know that we do not need any more beers that make me shit and sleep.
Also bad when the stout and wheat beer are also over hopped.
You figure a stout or wheat will at least be safe, with some flavor and not hops out the ass, but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore.
I know someone, whose father used to work for Glenmorangie and so who had a considerable single malt collection, who threw a house party once and, at 2am that morning, found some of his guests had opened a 21 year old bottle and started mixing it with cola. Not coca-cola, cheap, sugar-free cola from Tesco
Personally, I can't stand hops, but that's why I'm a bourbon girl. I do enjoy an occasional Guinness, however.
And I take my Jameson neat, when I can get it. :lulz:
Quote from: Cain on November 06, 2011, 10:54:35 PM
I know someone, whose father used to work for Glenmorangie and so who had a considerable single malt collection, who threw a house party once and, at 2am that morning, found some of his guests had opened a 21 year old bottle and started mixing it with cola. Not coca-cola, cheap, sugar-free cola from Tesco
:lulz:
That's just....I don't even.
Welcome to Scotland: pissing over it's own heritage since the building of Hadrian's Wall.
Quote from: Cain on November 06, 2011, 10:54:35 PM
I know someone, whose father used to work for Glenmorangie and so who had a considerable single malt collection, who threw a house party once and, at 2am that morning, found some of his guests had opened a 21 year old bottle and started mixing it with cola. Not coca-cola, cheap, sugar-free cola from Tesco
That's a cardinal sin. They're going to a special hell for that.
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 06, 2011, 10:49:26 PM
You know, Faust mixes his with Coca Cola.
YOUR SECRET IS EXPOSED FAUST
NOOOO, I am destroyed! Why did you have to expose my terrible sissy drinking habits.
RECOUPING FACE:
In the last year I haven't really mixed with anything. I always take two ice cubes and I won't drink anything other then Jameson, paddy/power/bushmills/jackD all make me feel sick.
Ice works for blending the flavour but it overshoots it if you don't drink quickly enough and then you get watery whiskey.
Jack D and Jim Beam are distilled American self loathing. That said they have their uses. Mainly mint juleps.
On the topic of ice: The first drink I ever purchased at a bar was Johnnie Walker Red Label on the rocks.
That has nothing to do with anything, of course, and I don't often partake of Johnnie and I don't put ice in my Jameson, but I think I might try Faust's two ice cubes next time.
Quote from: Richter on November 07, 2011, 12:38:12 AM
Jack D and Jim Beam are distilled American self loathing. That said they have their uses. Mainly mint juleps.
Beam... <shudder>
It's horrible. And I drink Old Crow
by choice.
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on November 06, 2011, 09:17:06 PM
Reminds me of that old joke (that's not really a joke):
You know why the Brits like their beer warm?
Because the same people that make their cars make their refrigerators.
By the way, there are several excellent american lagers (though they may not be available where you are). Sessions is awesome, and New Belgium brewery out of Colorado (they make fat tire) makes a kickass lager as well. It's taken an unreasonably long time for lagers to make inroads in the american microbrew market but it's finally happening.
Oh, that's good to hear! With people who aren't beer savvy, I've compared ales to red wines, and lagers to whites. In that sense, how shitty all the lagers in NA have been in the past is like if white wines from an entire region were complete shit. Every major USAian brewcorp has a lager as it's flagship, and they're all bad, some of them REALLY bad. People seriously equate beer with the shitty taste of watered down fresca that is canned american "lager" these days. I do love my lighter ales (e.g. New Glarus Spotted Cow, which is light and creamy), but there's just something about the cold brewed crispness of a good lager that an ale can't fill on a really hot day. Zywiec, for example (sorry if this is a shitty example).
And I agree with Nigel. I've had some pretty good IPAs, but for the most part they just aren't all that drinkable. If I wanted that much bitter I'd eat cocoa powder. (Note: I don't eat cocoa powder). I'm not talking the nicely hopped feel of an imperial stout either. That's just fine.
Quote from: Doktor Phox on November 06, 2011, 11:02:58 PM
Personally, I can't stand hops, but that's why I'm a bourbon girl. I do enjoy an occasional Guinness, however.
And I take my Jameson neat, when I can get it. :lulz:
You can have your bourbon. I'll have whisky, or scotch, or gin. No vodka for me. No tequila either.
Quote from: 'Kai' ZLB, M.S. on November 06, 2011, 07:14:59 PM
Whats the best ratio for mixing whiskywater?
I've been doing it about 1:1, but I haven't increased it because I don't want to dilute it too much.
:jihaad:
TGRR,
Drinks the shit "neat", the way God intended.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2011, 01:37:22 AM
Quote from: 'Kai' ZLB, M.S. on November 06, 2011, 07:14:59 PM
Whats the best ratio for mixing whiskywater?
I've been doing it about 1:1, but I haven't increased it because I don't want to dilute it too much.
:jihaad:
TGRR,
Drinks the shit "neat", the way God intended.
Yeah, but you drink the sort that just says "whisky" on the bottle. I'm drinking the slightly less spectacular Canadian Club.
Quote from: 'Kai' ZLB, M.S. on November 07, 2011, 01:40:39 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2011, 01:37:22 AM
Quote from: 'Kai' ZLB, M.S. on November 06, 2011, 07:14:59 PM
Whats the best ratio for mixing whiskywater?
I've been doing it about 1:1, but I haven't increased it because I don't want to dilute it too much.
:jihaad:
TGRR,
Drinks the shit "neat", the way God intended.
Yeah, but you drink the sort that just says "whisky" on the bottle. I'm drinking the slightly less spectacular Canadian Club.
It also says (on the back) "Contents: Whiskey".
Good whiskey is an abomination in the eyes of St Squiggy.
Quote from: 'Kai' ZLB, M.S. on November 07, 2011, 01:25:41 AM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on November 06, 2011, 11:02:58 PM
Personally, I can't stand hops, but that's why I'm a bourbon girl. I do enjoy an occasional Guinness, however.
And I take my Jameson neat, when I can get it. :lulz:
You can have your bourbon. I'll have whisky, or scotch, or gin. No vodka for me. No tequila either.
I can't stand vodka or tequila.
Gin... well, I've not had any good gin, ever, but my experience is quite limited. I'll take a nice whiskey any day though. (It's only spelled whisky if you're a Scottish heathen, btw. ;) )
Quote from: Nigel on November 07, 2011, 01:01:47 AM
Quote from: Richter on November 07, 2011, 12:38:12 AM
Jack D and Jim Beam are distilled American self loathing. That said they have their uses. Mainly mint juleps.
Beam... <shudder>
It's horrible. And I drink Old Crow by choice.
How's Old Crow? I haven't seen it around.
Quote from: Richter on November 07, 2011, 02:00:03 AM
Quote from: Nigel on November 07, 2011, 01:01:47 AM
Quote from: Richter on November 07, 2011, 12:38:12 AM
Jack D and Jim Beam are distilled American self loathing. That said they have their uses. Mainly mint juleps.
Beam... <shudder>
It's horrible. And I drink Old Crow by choice.
How's Old Crow? I haven't seen it around.
Slightly less manly than Evan Williams.
Quote from: Doktor Phox on November 07, 2011, 01:50:52 AM
Quote from: 'Kai' ZLB, M.S. on November 07, 2011, 01:25:41 AM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on November 06, 2011, 11:02:58 PM
Personally, I can't stand hops, but that's why I'm a bourbon girl. I do enjoy an occasional Guinness, however.
And I take my Jameson neat, when I can get it. :lulz:
You can have your bourbon. I'll have whisky, or scotch, or gin. No vodka for me. No tequila either.
I can't stand vodka or tequila.
Gin... well, I've not had any good gin, ever, but my experience is quite limited. I'll take a nice whiskey any day though. (It's only spelled whisky if you're a Scottish heathen, btw. ;) )
Okay okay, Whiskey, then. I keep spelling it both ways so as not to incur the wrath of the resident Scots.
Quote from: 'Kai' ZLB, M.S. on November 07, 2011, 02:10:20 AM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on November 07, 2011, 01:50:52 AM
Quote from: 'Kai' ZLB, M.S. on November 07, 2011, 01:25:41 AM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on November 06, 2011, 11:02:58 PM
Personally, I can't stand hops, but that's why I'm a bourbon girl. I do enjoy an occasional Guinness, however.
And I take my Jameson neat, when I can get it. :lulz:
You can have your bourbon. I'll have whisky, or scotch, or gin. No vodka for me. No tequila either.
I can't stand vodka or tequila.
Gin... well, I've not had any good gin, ever, but my experience is quite limited. I'll take a nice whiskey any day though. (It's only spelled whisky if you're a Scottish heathen, btw. ;) )
Okay okay, Whiskey, then. I keep spelling it both ways so as not to incur the wrath of the resident Scots.
Judging by this:
Quote from: The Payne on November 06, 2011, 07:22:49 PM
Alternatively, drink it neat if it's one of those plain bottles that just have WHISKEY written on them. This way also leads to HolinessTM
I'd say you're safe with the
proper spelling. :lulz:
I have never, ever said "i sure am glad I drank whiskey yesterday"
The same is not true of gin.
Rare Breed. Put it in the freezer. Remove when cold. DRINK.
108 proof shouldn't be that smooth.
Quote from: Faust on November 07, 2011, 12:14:28 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 06, 2011, 10:49:26 PM
You know, Faust mixes his with Coca Cola.
YOUR SECRET IS EXPOSED FAUST
NOOOO, I am destroyed! Why did you have to expose my terrible sissy drinking habits.
RECOUPING FACE:
In the last year I haven't really mixed with anything. I always take two ice cubes and I won't drink anything other then Jameson, paddy/power/bushmills/jackD all make me feel sick.
Ice works for blending the flavour but it overshoots it if you don't drink quickly enough and then you get watery whiskey.
If it helps you feel any better, I also have blended whiskeys with cola. Not exclusively, but being the whiskey snob I am, I don't count anything less than a single malt as a real drink, and so, for instance, a bottle of Bells or Famous Grouse will be used to go in coffee, cola etc.
It will also be drunk straight, but only when I'm out of proper scotch.
Bushmills, incidentally, does mix quite well most things, but I only buy the single malt varieties nowadays.
I like to blend Jack Daniels with diet Citrus Drop.
Quote from: Cain on November 07, 2011, 08:36:21 AM
Quote from: Faust on November 07, 2011, 12:14:28 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 06, 2011, 10:49:26 PM
You know, Faust mixes his with Coca Cola.
YOUR SECRET IS EXPOSED FAUST
NOOOO, I am destroyed! Why did you have to expose my terrible sissy drinking habits.
RECOUPING FACE:
In the last year I haven't really mixed with anything. I always take two ice cubes and I won't drink anything other then Jameson, paddy/power/bushmills/jackD all make me feel sick.
Ice works for blending the flavour but it overshoots it if you don't drink quickly enough and then you get watery whiskey.
If it helps you feel any better, I also have blended whiskeys with cola. Not exclusively, but being the whiskey snob I am, I don't count anything less than a single malt as a real drink, and so, for instance, a bottle of Bells or Famous Grouse will be used to go in coffee, cola etc.
It will also be drunk straight, but only when I'm out of proper scotch.
Bushmills, incidentally, does mix quite well most things, but I only buy the single malt varieties nowadays.
Bushmills and Black bush are the only two Whiskey brands I have ever gotten a hang over from, I always do the drink a pint of water before you go to sleep trick and even with that I've been like death after bush.
I like Jack Daniels, and I can't tell how good other whiskeys are supposed to be because I'm a savage.
This is like admitting to listening to The Cheeky Girls.
I agree with the consensus. Stuff like Jameson, for me, needs no water. Some really nice scotch will open up a bit with a spoon full of water or so.
I wouldn't force my worst enemy to drink Jack Daniels even if I had just personally witnessed him kill everyone I love slowly and painfully.
The last time I drank a notable quantity of Jack, half a handle was gone the day Herbert and I had our court hearing. I'm pretty sure for that year following it, aside from being with GS, it had done something to my brain that made me negative and overly violent.
I had *A* Jack and Coke at my cousin's wedding, and I didn't finish it. I can't take the stuff, anymore.
The last bottle of scotch/whiskey I bought was a birthday gift. I've just never developed a taste for it... probably because mostly what i'd been exposed to was Jack.
There are some DELICIOUS whiskeys! You've seen Richter and I geek over Balvenie Doublewood 12. That's one of my fave scotches.
I usually drink whiskey neat, though occasionally, I will have it with ice, usually because I'm in some sort of public place and I forgot to say neat when I ordered it.
I'm pretty partial to Jameson, but if I want to punish myself cheaply, it's Old Thompson, which is just really wretched stuff and leaves a taste of death in my mouth when I wake up.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2011, 02:01:09 AM
Quote from: Richter on November 07, 2011, 02:00:03 AM
Quote from: Nigel on November 07, 2011, 01:01:47 AM
Quote from: Richter on November 07, 2011, 12:38:12 AM
Jack D and Jim Beam are distilled American self loathing. That said they have their uses. Mainly mint juleps.
Beam... <shudder>
It's horrible. And I drink Old Crow by choice.
How's Old Crow? I haven't seen it around.
Slightly less manly than Evan Williams.
Evan Williams is for when I'm feeling flush. :lulz:
Quote from: Suu on November 07, 2011, 02:04:17 PM
There are some DELICIOUS whiskeys! You've seen Richter and I geek over Balvenie Doublewood 12. That's one of my fave scotches.
Pretty sure that's what I bought, actually, I'll have to check. I tried it, liked it.
Near St. Patty's day we should hold a HIMEOBS weapons familiarization seminar on the subject of scotch.
Quote from: Richter on November 07, 2011, 05:05:46 PM
Near St. Patty's day we should hold a HIMEOBS weapons familiarization seminar on the subject of scotch.
Scotch is for St. Andrew's Day.
Whiskey is for St. Patrick's Day.
:mumbles something about Protestant heretics:
The upshot of this, of course, is that St. Andrew's Day is the 30th.
JD is good for "hey I sure feel like drinking!" and I'll get it at the bar since the prices for that are already bad enough and if I'm at the bar chances are I'm not there to contemplate the intricate nuances of whatever booze I may be drinking. When we can afford it, Knob Creek is at least a little better and we treated ourselves to a bottle of Booker's recently which we drank neat.
If we're talking non-scotch, I usually go for Eagle Rare, or Michter's Rye.
Because I am a piggish bourgeoisie white male who works for the man and can afford it.
Booker's is the one bourbon for which I will make an exception to my "no more bourbon unless you NEED to fight someone while you're naked and/or wake up covered in blood with random broken bones" rule.
Quote from: Nph. Twid. on November 07, 2011, 02:23:06 PM
I usually drink whiskey neat, though occasionally, I will have it with ice, usually because I'm in some sort of public place and I forgot to say neat when I ordered it.
I'm pretty partial to Jameson, but if I want to punish myself cheaply, it's Old Thompson, which is just really wretched stuff and leaves a taste of death in my mouth when I wake up.
I am partial to most brands of cheap rum. But then, I can also find cheap bourbon with ease, and I drink it just as Roger intended, straight up and possibly on fire, judging by the taste. :lulz:
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on November 07, 2011, 05:51:44 PM
Booker's is the one bourbon for which I will make an exception to my "no more bourbon unless you NEED to fight someone while you're naked and/or wake up covered in blood with random broken bones" rule.
That's a pretty good rule to have, I must say. :lol:
Quote from: Richter on November 07, 2011, 05:05:46 PM
Near St. Patty's day we should hold a HIMEOBS weapons familiarization seminar on the subject of scotch.
I'm in. :D
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on November 07, 2011, 05:51:44 PM
Booker's is the one bourbon for which I will make an exception to my "no more bourbon unless you NEED to fight someone while you're naked and/or wake up covered in blood with random broken bones" rule.
This REALLY makes me want to get you and TGRR together and feed you bourbon.
Does that make me a bad friend? :oops:
Quote from: Nigel on November 07, 2011, 07:26:30 PM
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on November 07, 2011, 05:51:44 PM
Booker's is the one bourbon for which I will make an exception to my "no more bourbon unless you NEED to fight someone while you're naked and/or wake up covered in blood with random broken bones" rule.
This REALLY makes me want to get you and TGRR together and feed you bourbon.
Does that make me a bad friend? :oops:
No, but it DOES make you a bad citizen.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2011, 07:46:50 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 07, 2011, 07:26:30 PM
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on November 07, 2011, 05:51:44 PM
Booker's is the one bourbon for which I will make an exception to my "no more bourbon unless you NEED to fight someone while you're naked and/or wake up covered in blood with random broken bones" rule.
This REALLY makes me want to get you and TGRR together and feed you bourbon.
Does that make me a bad friend? :oops:
No, but it DOES make you a bad citizen.
:hammer:
I just can't quite get over the idea that you + ECH + bourbon = NAKED MANWRESTLING.
Quote from: Nigel on November 07, 2011, 07:49:09 PM
I just can't quite get over the idea that you + ECH + bourbon = NAKED MANWRESTLING.
Allow me a preemptive
(http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/4526/quitwhining8zo.gif)
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2011, 07:55:30 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 07, 2011, 07:49:09 PM
I just can't quite get over the idea that you + ECH + bourbon = NAKED MANWRESTLING.
Allow me a preemptive
(http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/4526/quitwhining8zo.gif)
:lulz:
Fuck! I've been looking for that pic for-fucking-EVER!
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on November 07, 2011, 09:05:39 PM
Fuck! I've been looking for that pic for-fucking-EVER!
I plan on making it an emote later tonight, after maybe resizing it.