Okay, something's been bugging me for a while, and I thought I'd just puke it out and leave the mess for someone else.
Erisians piss me off. There, I said it. I get pissy when people say "Oh my Goddess". It's fucking pretentious as hell. "GOD" IS A GENDER-NEUTRAL TERM. And if it ISN'T, it SHOULD BE. There is no need to say "Goddess" unless your point is to show how fucking edgy you are, what a Real Discordian™ you are. "Hey, everyone, look! I'm different than all the Pinkboys and Po'buckers! Look at meeeeeeeeeeeeee!"
Suckers.
That, taken together with "Eris loves us" or "Fuck you, Eris", puts you squarely in the Wiccan camp...ie, you've just taken Christianity and pasted a new header on it. Eris doesn't do shit for or to you. At best (worst, really), she has historically given people what they thought they wanted, and then sat back and watched civilizations burn to the ground.
The fact is, Discordianism doesn't require a God. I mean, sure, you can have one, but you don't NEED one, and you sure as fuck don't need to tell us all about it or make sure we all know. As far as I'm concerned, you can worship the good old-fashioned patriarchal Jehovah, and still be a Discordian, because Discordia isn't about which god you worship, it's about being a walking glitch. Or hell, it's just about acknowledging that order and disorder are both omnipresent and that both are the correct tool for different jobs.
The ONLY thing that makes US right and THEM wrong is that we know how the universe works. We know about the subjective reality fallacy and we know that imposing order or chaos results in a corresponding amount of the opposite quality. We're just as stupid as they are, but we KNOW it and they don't. And if we go haring off after silly-assed hipster shit, making DAMN GOOD AND SURE that everyone knows what we think we are, then we may as well just put on a wife beater, pop open a Coors Lite, and hop in the sty with all the other piggies.
So just shut up. All of you.
Or Kill Me.
LIKE.
I only have one caveat:
Vincent.
Everything else, hell yes.
I use Eris only as a symbol, and I don't put much belief into that symbol. It's a convenient shorthand way to communicate certain ideas and concepts to those who can be arsed to figure it out and nothing more.
As I think about it, that is pretty much the same for most communication that I know of.
I'm sometimes tempted to say "Goddess" when I'd say "oh my god", "thank god", "god knows", etc. in a sense that would fit Eris better than the traditional Christian god or Jesus or such. I usually end up not doing it because I don't want to sound like a Wiccan, yeah. But it shouldn't matter because I'd be using it to add more nuance, instead of trying to sound edgy.
I'd kinda hope most folks on this board would understand it in a similar matter, but I also know where that sort of optimism usually gets me :)
Quote from: Jenne on November 14, 2011, 07:14:49 PM
I only have one caveat:
Vincent.
Everything else, hell yes.
Verthaine gets a special dispensation.
Because he's the coolest motherfucker on the planet.
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 14, 2011, 07:21:52 PM
I'm sometimes tempted to say "Goddess" when I'd say "oh my god", "thank god", "god knows", etc. in a sense that would fit Eris better than the traditional Christian god or Jesus or such. I usually end up not doing it because I don't want to sound like a Wiccan, yeah. But it shouldn't matter because I'd be using it to add more nuance, instead of trying to sound edgy.
I'd kinda hope most folks on this board would understand it in a similar matter, but I also know where that sort of optimism usually gets me :)
I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE THINGS WORSE...
Quote from: The Payne on November 14, 2011, 07:19:49 PM
I use Eris only as a symbol, and I don't put much belief into that symbol. It's a convenient shorthand way to communicate certain ideas and concepts to those who can be arsed to figure it out and nothing more.
As I think about it, that is pretty much the same for most communication that I know of.
I use Eris only to mislead schucks who think they know what we're all about.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2011, 07:25:20 PM
Quote from: The Payne on November 14, 2011, 07:19:49 PM
I use Eris only as a symbol, and I don't put much belief into that symbol. It's a convenient shorthand way to communicate certain ideas and concepts to those who can be arsed to figure it out and nothing more.
As I think about it, that is pretty much the same for most communication that I know of.
I use Eris only to mislead schucks who think they know what we're all about.
This is a better place to leave the porn.
Quote from: The Payne on November 14, 2011, 07:26:28 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2011, 07:25:20 PM
Quote from: The Payne on November 14, 2011, 07:19:49 PM
I use Eris only as a symbol, and I don't put much belief into that symbol. It's a convenient shorthand way to communicate certain ideas and concepts to those who can be arsed to figure it out and nothing more.
As I think about it, that is pretty much the same for most communication that I know of.
I use Eris only to mislead schucks who think they know what we're all about.
This is a better place to leave the porn.
Po'bucker: "Discordianism? Oh, that's that cute joke religion about Eris, isn't it?"
Roger: "Yes. We're real kidders."
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2011, 07:02:57 PM
The ONLY thing that makes US right and THEM wrong is that we know how the universe works.
I don't know about that.
Quote from: LCS on November 14, 2011, 07:36:07 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2011, 07:02:57 PM
The ONLY thing that makes US right and THEM wrong is that we know how the universe works.
I don't know about that.
That's because you are insufficiently Holy™.
This calls for a bottle of cheap whiskey to baptise your innards with.
Quote from: Nph. Twid. on November 14, 2011, 07:42:57 PM
This calls for a bottle of cheap whiskey to baptise your innards with.
Only bourbon can slay the little disease demons within you.
This is established medical fact.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2011, 07:24:33 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 14, 2011, 07:21:52 PM
I'm sometimes tempted to say "Goddess" when I'd say "oh my god", "thank god", "god knows", etc. in a sense that would fit Eris better than the traditional Christian god or Jesus or such. I usually end up not doing it because I don't want to sound like a Wiccan, yeah. But it shouldn't matter because I'd be using it to add more nuance, instead of trying to sound edgy.
I'd kinda hope most folks on this board would understand it in a similar matter, but I also know where that sort of optimism usually gets me :)
I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE THINGS WORSE...
...and I know what takes to put a nigger in a hearse.
:argh!: Can't not finish!
Quote from: Science me, babby on November 14, 2011, 09:11:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2011, 07:24:33 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 14, 2011, 07:21:52 PM
I'm sometimes tempted to say "Goddess" when I'd say "oh my god", "thank god", "god knows", etc. in a sense that would fit Eris better than the traditional Christian god or Jesus or such. I usually end up not doing it because I don't want to sound like a Wiccan, yeah. But it shouldn't matter because I'd be using it to add more nuance, instead of trying to sound edgy.
I'd kinda hope most folks on this board would understand it in a similar matter, but I also know where that sort of optimism usually gets me :)
I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE THINGS WORSE...
...and I know what takes to put a nigger in a hearse.
:argh!: Can't not finish!
I'M ON CRACK!Incidentally, it's "nigga". Not that it makes any difference.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2011, 09:13:54 PM
Quote from: Science me, babby on November 14, 2011, 09:11:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2011, 07:24:33 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 14, 2011, 07:21:52 PM
I'm sometimes tempted to say "Goddess" when I'd say "oh my god", "thank god", "god knows", etc. in a sense that would fit Eris better than the traditional Christian god or Jesus or such. I usually end up not doing it because I don't want to sound like a Wiccan, yeah. But it shouldn't matter because I'd be using it to add more nuance, instead of trying to sound edgy.
I'd kinda hope most folks on this board would understand it in a similar matter, but I also know where that sort of optimism usually gets me :)
I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE THINGS WORSE...
...and I know what takes to put a nigger in a hearse.
:argh!: Can't not finish!
I'M ON CRACK!
Incidentally, it's "nigga". Not that it makes any difference.
Break it down. Break, break, break break it down.
And now that song is stuck in my head. Good thing it's awesome.
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Quote from: Science me, babby on November 14, 2011, 09:11:25 PM
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Quote from: Triple Zero on November 14, 2011, 07:21:52 PM
I'm sometimes tempted to say "Goddess" when I'd say "oh my god", "thank god", "god knows", etc. in a sense that would fit Eris better than the traditional Christian god or Jesus or such. I usually end up not doing it because I don't want to sound like a Wiccan, yeah. But it shouldn't matter because I'd be using it to add more nuance, instead of trying to sound edgy.
I'd kinda hope most folks on this board would understand it in a similar matter, but I also know where that sort of optimism usually gets me :)
I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE THINGS WORSE...
...and I know what takes to put a nigger in a hearse.
:argh!: Can't not finish!
I'M ON CRACK!
Incidentally, it's "nigga". Not that it makes any difference.
Break it down. Break, break, break break it down.
And now that song is stuck in my head. Good thing it's awesome.
Asian people love golf.
Quote from: Science me, babby on November 14, 2011, 09:18:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2011, 09:17:08 PM
Asian people love golf.
WHAT?! :x
ASIAN PEOPLE LOVE GOLF!That song is perfect for the 21st Century. It's like a black velvet painting of Auschwitz.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2011, 09:19:15 PM
Quote from: Science me, babby on November 14, 2011, 09:18:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2011, 09:17:08 PM
Asian people love golf.
WHAT?! :x
ASIAN PEOPLE LOVE GOLF!
That song is perfect for the 21st Century. It's like a black velvet painting of Auschwitz.
It is perfect. All that shiny good good on my eyes, and then switch to what everyone else sees. :horrormirth:
And how did I forget the bit where he blows up a fishbowl with himself swimming around in it?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2011, 07:02:57 PM
Okay, something's been bugging me for a while, and I thought I'd just puke it out and leave the mess for someone else.
Erisians piss me off. There, I said it. I get pissy when people say "Oh my Goddess". It's fucking pretentious as hell. "GOD" IS A GENDER-NEUTRAL TERM. And if it ISN'T, it SHOULD BE. There is no need to say "Goddess" unless your point is to show how fucking edgy you are, what a Real Discordian™ you are. "Hey, everyone, look! I'm different than all the Pinkboys and Po'buckers! Look at meeeeeeeeeeeeee!"
Suckers.
That, taken together with "Eris loves us" or "Fuck you, Eris", puts you squarely in the Wiccan camp...ie, you've just taken Christianity and pasted a new header on it. Eris doesn't do shit for or to you. At best (worst, really), she has historically given people what they thought they wanted, and then sat back and watched civilizations burn to the ground.
The fact is, Discordianism doesn't require a God. I mean, sure, you can have one, but you don't NEED one, and you sure as fuck don't need to tell us all about it or make sure we all know. As far as I'm concerned, you can worship the good old-fashioned patriarchal Jehovah, and still be a Discordian, because Discordia isn't about which god you worship, it's about being a walking glitch. Or hell, it's just about acknowledging that order and disorder are both omnipresent and that both are the correct tool for different jobs.
The ONLY thing that makes US right and THEM wrong is that we know how the universe works. We know about the subjective reality fallacy and we know that imposing order or chaos results in a corresponding amount of the opposite quality. We're just as stupid as they are, but we KNOW it and they don't. And if we go haring off after silly-assed hipster shit, making DAMN GOOD AND SURE that everyone knows what we think we are, then we may as well just put on a wife beater, pop open a Coors Lite, and hop in the sty with all the other piggies.
So just shut up. All of you.
Or Kill Me.
This is exactly how Eris would like to be worshipped.
Quote from: Science me, babby on November 14, 2011, 09:15:13 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2011, 09:13:54 PM
Quote from: Science me, babby on November 14, 2011, 09:11:25 PM
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Quote from: Triple Zero on November 14, 2011, 07:21:52 PM
I'm sometimes tempted to say "Goddess" when I'd say "oh my god", "thank god", "god knows", etc. in a sense that would fit Eris better than the traditional Christian god or Jesus or such. I usually end up not doing it because I don't want to sound like a Wiccan, yeah. But it shouldn't matter because I'd be using it to add more nuance, instead of trying to sound edgy.
I'd kinda hope most folks on this board would understand it in a similar matter, but I also know where that sort of optimism usually gets me :)
I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE THINGS WORSE...
...and I know what takes to put a nigger in a hearse.
:argh!: Can't not finish!
I'M ON CRACK!
Incidentally, it's "nigga". Not that it makes any difference.
Break it down. Break, break, break break it down.
And now that song is stuck in my head. Good thing it's awesome.
This has enriched my morning, and woken up my roommates.
Anyways, handling Eris like a deity in the sense of any other religion is ignoring what separates discordia from them in the first place.
"Um.. you HAVE a deity right?
"Yes, it's Eris, that must mean we're bad or crazy. You're precious, fuck off now."
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2011, 07:02:57 PM
Erisians piss me off. There, I said it. I get pissy when people say "Oh my Goddess". It's fucking pretentious as hell. "GOD" IS A GENDER-NEUTRAL TERM. And if it ISN'T, it SHOULD BE. There is no need to say "Goddess" unless your point is to show how fucking edgy you are, what a Real Discordian™ you are. "Hey, everyone, look! I'm different than all the Pinkboys and Po'buckers! Look at meeeeeeeeeeeeee!"
hurk, I'm with you... the expression is "oh my God" ... "oh my Goddess" sounds like somebody's been eating too many pixie sticks.
QuoteThe fact is, Discordianism doesn't require a God. I mean, sure, you can have one, but you don't NEED one, and you sure as fuck don't need to tell us all about it or make sure we all know. As far as I'm concerned, you can worship the good old-fashioned patriarchal Jehovah, and still be a Discordian, because Discordia isn't about which god you worship, it's about being a walking glitch. Or hell, it's just about acknowledging that order and disorder are both omnipresent and that both are the correct tool for different jobs.
FUCK YES
And this is the main reason why I don't consider myself a pagan -- Discordia isn't just an alternative religion - it's alternative TO religion.
In my Discordia, Eris is more like a mascot. She's a metaphor for a complex network of ideas.
One of the subtle benefits of personifying Discordia into something-like-a-person is that it lets you process Discordia using the social parts of your brain. We've got a lot of hardware for social interactions, that may be a slice of why people think they can just fold their hands and have a one-on-one chat with the universe. It's hard to know what the Universe wants you to do, but if you shrink it down to an invisible gaseous male vertebrate, you can think about in terms like "Is this guy pissed at me?" Our brains are able to process "how to stay on god's good side" a bit easier than the more abstract "how to live good and die right".
You can ask yourself "What's the Discordian thing to do right here" and "What would Eris think of this?" and get more or less the same answer.
So I think about Eris, mostly when I'm writing about Discordia, but I don't "believe" in her. She's a construct which is useful now and then, but I think it's absolutely
bonkers to chat her up and offer her tea and scones like pagans do.
QuoteThe ONLY thing that makes US right and THEM wrong is that we know how the universe works.
I think this is where our paths differ
because I don't think that We Discordians have stumbled upon the TRUTH, I think We and They are are just stupid in different ways.
If anything, Discordia's made me skeptical of THE TRUTH and the people that think they see it. I mean, if our schools and government cabinets were stocked with Discordians, I don't think the world would be better off. We'd just be fucking up everything in different ways.
I think Discordians throw better parties than the grayfaces, no doubt. And in my opinion, that's the best reason to chill with Eris.
The universe is governed by uncaring impersonal forces.
Those uncaring impersonal forces are a crazy Greek woman.
Her name is Eris.
Now please excuse me whilst I go to The Region of Thud to distribute Precious Mao Buttons to the poor.
(mostly ripping off page 65 (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/72.php))
I sense a bit of Pratchett in there, too.
I think on the Disk the universe is governed by a bunch of uptight jackasses who would happily destroy everything just to make sure the number are easier to crunch.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2011, 07:02:57 PMThere is no need to say "Goddess" unless your point is to show how fucking edgy you are...
I agree that overusing "Goddess" isn't particularly useful and may be a way to demonstrate "how fucking edgy [one is]," but the use of the word Goddess in reference to Eristic forces remains, in my opinion, an effective and viable means for reprogramming semantic reactions associated with "God," because the use of "Goddess" can be intended to disrupt human and male chauvinism prevalent in the subject-predicate linguistic form that is typically used by people who haven't attempted to update their linguistic maps of reality by applying some techniques and methods of abstractions provided by general semantics.
but more importantly, it makes you sound like a total spag
"Oh my goddess" is in the box with words like 'herstory', 'womyn' and 'firepeople'.
Yeah. That shit might've worked in the 50s and 60s, but it just gets you pegged as a vegan feminist Wiccan now.
It's been reduced to a label and a slot. Outside of maybe Saudi Arabia and Iran, that particular technique is not going to be blowing any minds.
I used it during my HS "neo-paganism? what's that?" phase. Mostly for the reasons 'ppp' pointed out.. of course I wasn't raised terribly religious, so that didn't take long and it went into disuse. Now, it comes out spontaneously rarely (about 40-50% with the male epitaph) or else I'm using it because there are pagans to mindfuck in the area, and it's an appropriate "squawk" (social signal) for my purposes.
I think that Cram has a great point about how we as humans tend to hijack portions of our brain networks for other purposes, and being able to access the 'social processor' for things that normally fall outside of it's purview by projecting a human form onto it is quite interesting.
I also tend to change my belief on Eris fairly regularly, tho. There are times I behave as if she was an external personality.. but the functional difference between that and what terry Pratchett calls "putting on this Grimes writing head" only can be pieced apart outside of those experiences...
But shit, I do the same thing with martial arts and 'chi'. The usefulness of the model-in-action is constantly tested, and discarded-for-that-purpose if found wanting.
Quote from: Cramulus on November 15, 2011, 03:34:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2011, 07:02:57 PM
The ONLY thing that makes US right and THEM wrong is that we know how the universe works.
I think this is where our paths differ
because I don't think that We Discordians have stumbled upon the TRUTH, I think We and They are are just stupid in different ways.
We don't have AS MANY Truths as They do.
But what we have is a keen grasp of the important ones.
I don't know what color the train is.
I don't know what the engineer's name is.
I don't know what time it's due at the station.
But I DO know that it's coming down the tracks, and I'd best be off them before it gets here.
And that's all you NEED to know about the universe.
Quote from: PPPP on November 15, 2011, 07:25:47 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2011, 07:02:57 PMThere is no need to say "Goddess" unless your point is to show how fucking edgy you are...
I agree that overusing "Goddess" isn't particularly useful and may be a way to demonstrate "how fucking edgy [one is]," but the use of the word Goddess in reference to Eristic forces remains, in my opinion, an effective and viable means for reprogramming semantic reactions associated with "God," because the use of "Goddess" can be intended to disrupt human and male chauvinism prevalent in the subject-predicate linguistic form that is typically used by people who haven't attempted to update their linguistic maps of reality by applying some techniques and methods of abstractions provided by general semantics.
Who are you, and what the FUCK did you just say?
I'm not wading through that pile of jargon.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 16, 2011, 12:44:06 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 15, 2011, 03:34:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2011, 07:02:57 PM
The ONLY thing that makes US right and THEM wrong is that we know how the universe works.
I think this is where our paths differ
because I don't think that We Discordians have stumbled upon the TRUTH, I think We and They are are just stupid in different ways.
We don't have AS MANY Truths as They do.
But what we have is a keen grasp of the important ones.
I don't know what color the train is.
I don't know what the engineer's name is.
I don't know what time it's due at the station.
But I DO know that it's coming down the tracks, and I'd best be off them before it gets here.
And that's all you NEED to know about the universe.
I'll get off the tracks once I'm finished putting all these coins on the rails.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 16, 2011, 12:46:00 AM
Quote from: PPPP on November 15, 2011, 07:25:47 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2011, 07:02:57 PMThere is no need to say "Goddess" unless your point is to show how fucking edgy you are...
I agree that overusing "Goddess" isn't particularly useful and may be a way to demonstrate "how fucking edgy [one is]," but the use of the word Goddess in reference to Eristic forces remains, in my opinion, an effective and viable means for reprogramming semantic reactions associated with "God," because the use of "Goddess" can be intended to disrupt human and male chauvinism prevalent in the subject-predicate linguistic form that is typically used by people who haven't attempted to update their linguistic maps of reality by applying some techniques and methods of abstractions provided by general semantics.
Who are you, and what the FUCK did you just say?
I'm not wading through that pile of jargon.
"If you change a common signal, you may be forced to pay attention to it."
I'm generally with Cram's point of view.
Is Eris really real? I don't think so. Is Eris a great metaphor and meme, I think so.
There isn't a 'need' for Eris in Discordianism... but she can be useful for people that like to play with their brains in a certain way.
I was just flipping through Kerry Thornley's
Zenarchy, with this thread in mind, and found some bits which may be relevant to us... (though if I'm veering off on a tangent, I'll be happy to split this out)
While Thornley never refers to Eris in this book, he was interested in imagining/becoming a group that gathered around matriarchial values.
QuoteThe Only Solution is a Yin Revolution
"What is really being said is that intelligence solves problems by seeking the greatest simplicity and the least expenditure of effort, and it is thus that Taoism eventually inspired the Japanese to work out the technique of judo — the easy or gentle Tao (do)." (from Psychotherapy East and West by Alan Watts, Random House, 1961)
"The True men of old waited for the issues of events as the arrangement of Heaven, and did not by their human efforts try to take the place of Heaven." — Chuang Tzu (from the Texts of Taoism by James Legge, Dover Publications, 1962)
"It is interesting in this connection to recall Dr. Reich's distinction between matriarchy and patriarchy, as given in The Mass Psychology of Fascism. According to Dr. Reich, work-democracy and self-regulation of primary drives were characteristics of primitive matriarchy, and both were destroyed by the rise of authoritarian patriarchy. Recent anthropology has cast doubt on the existence of the `primitive matriarchy,' but, as G. Rattray Taylor shows in his Sex in History, there can be little doubt that cultures do show more Matrist tendencies in some periods of their development, and more Patrist tendencies at other periods.
Patrist periods are characterized by sexual repression, limitation of freedom for women, political authoritarianism, fear of spontaneity, worship of a Father God, etc. Matrist periods, on the other hand, are characterized by sexual freedom, high status for women, political democracy, spontaneity, worship of a Mother Goddess, etc. This agrees with Dr. Reich's picture of the distinction between Patriarchy and Matriarchy.
QuoteChapter 6 of the Tao Teh Ching Says:
The valley spirit never dies She is called the Eternal Female
"According to Needham, Blakney and other Sinologists, this Eternal Female is the goddess of pre-Chou China forgotten by the conventions of the Patrist Chou State and official Confucian philosophy. Blakney considers the early Taoists to have been recruited from peasants who remembered the Shang State and its Matrist orientation."
(from "Lao-Tse and Wilhelm Reich, Prophets of Inner Freedom" by Robert Anton Wilson in the September 1963 issue of A Way Out, School of Living, Brookville, Ohio)
"The True men of old did not reject (the views of) the few; they did not seek to accomplish (their ends) like heroes (before others); they did not lay plans to attain those ends. Being such, though they might make mistakes, they had no occasion for repentance; though they might succeed, they had no self-complacency. Being such, they could ascend to the loftiest heights without fear; they could pass through water without being made wet by it; they could go into fire without being burnt; so it was that by their knowledge they ascended to and reached the Tao."
— Chuang Tzu (from the Texts of Taoism by James Legge, Dover Publications, 1962)
So Follow the Way
Of the True Men of Old:
Find Shade in the Summer;
Grow Fur in the Cold.
This was followed by a portrait of the archetypal counter-cultural woman drawn exclusively from my old New Orleans French Quarter friend, Loy Ann Camp. Therein I compared her to the woman in Bob Dylan's song of whom he says, "She's got everything she needs; she's an artist; she don't look back..." For in the most literal sense Loy, like so many of the hip females of the early Sixties, was an artist by profession who was "nobody's child" and who never stumbled because she had no place to fall — a perfect balance of gentleness and strength.
It's interesting to look at the Discordian seed writings through this lens... maybe it's not so much about a specific crazy Greek chick as it is about choosing a symbolic alternative to the 1950s patriarchy.
Quote from: Cramulus on November 15, 2011, 03:34:34 PM
QuoteThe ONLY thing that makes US right and THEM wrong is that we know how the universe works.
I think this is where our paths differ
because I don't think that We Discordians have stumbled upon the TRUTH, I think We and They are are just stupid in different ways.
Balls. The Truth is,
the future isn't done with you yet.