Looking at the discussions in the Discordian recipes forum, a lot of people seem to really know their shit when it comes to health and fitness.
I'm 5"2 and weigh 50 kilo (110 pounds) this is actually the most I've ever weighed.
Share your putting on weight (muscle is prefferable to fat) itt.
Already I up dairy, protein, drink the protein drinks after a workout and do about 50 mins exercise (hockey or gym) once every two days.
How old are you? That's gonna make a huge difference.
Also, if you're working out, you'll put on muscle if you're eating well. And by "well" I don't mean "vegetarian".
I'm 23.
I tried to reduce meat last year. This year I started getting serious about gaining weight; Hide yo cows! Hide yo pigs!
I just have batshit metabolism, but it's nice to know I seems to be doing the right stuff already.
Quote from: Placid Dingo on November 20, 2011, 04:39:23 AM
I'm 23.
I tried to reduce meat last year. This year I started getting serious about gaining weight; Hide yo cows! Hide yo pigs!
I just have batshit metabolism, but it's nice to know I seems to be doing the right stuff already.
Yeah, you're on the right track. Basically you just need to increase your calorie intake, which you can do by adding snacks between meals. Cheese and baguette is a good snack for weight gain.
i have the opposite problem, so, naturally i hate you.
fwiw - i've found gruelling labor and supplementing meals with cigarettes will keep me "overweight but at least i'm not obese" category.
one time i got down to 172 lbs. i looked like death and felt like a stiff wind would knock me off my feet.
Quote from: Placid Dingo on November 20, 2011, 04:39:23 AM
I'm 23.
I tried to reduce meat last year. This year I started getting serious about gaining weight; Hide yo cows! Hide yo pigs!
I just have batshit metabolism, but it's nice to know I seems to be doing the right stuff already.
I'm 22. 5' 10". 55kg and trying to add weight.
Am pretty much doing the same as you are. Eating more in general. Dairy/proteins.
Metabolism just noms it all up and asks for more. Just ADD MORE FOOD until it works, seems to be the trick.
Have you checked with a doctor and done blood work to make sure you're absorbing what you're eating?
Quote from: Desirsar on November 25, 2011, 04:01:31 AM
Have you checked with a doctor and done blood work to make sure you're absorbing what you're eating?
I have not. Can you exPlain what you mean there?
maybe you have a tapeworm
Ah. No. I just don't put on weight quickly.
Quote from: Placid Dingo on November 20, 2011, 04:30:31 AM
Looking at the discussions in the Discordian recipes forum, a lot of people seem to really know their shit when it comes to health and fitness.
I'm 5"2 and weigh 50 kilo (110 pounds) this is actually the most I've ever weighed.
Share your putting on weight (muscle is prefferable to fat) itt.
Already I up dairy, protein, drink the protein drinks after a workout and do about 50 mins exercise (hockey or gym) once every two days.
What kind of exercises are you doing at the gym? If you're going for mass, I wouldn't give much time to cardio except as a very brief (5-10 min) warm-up before lifting. Hockey should pretty well take care of all your needs there, anyways. When you're first bulking up, you really have to start with the basic strength exercises before moving on to the isolation type "glamor" movements. Squats, dead-lifts, bench presses, overhead presses, underhand pull-ups (or rows may be more beneficial at only 110lbs). Problem with all of these is that in most cases bad form can either make the exercise useless, or worse, very, very dangerous. You can mitigate that a bit by using dumb-bells instead of bar-bells, but you're going to get much more benefit out of actually having someone there who knows what they're doing and can make sure your form's on and spot you as you go, in either case. These exercises will generally just make you overall more "massive", and a lot stronger. Doing flies instead of bench presses or isolating your quads on a machine instead of doing squats is a good way to show results fairly quickly, but you'll run into bottlenecks much easier and really get "bigger" without getting any stronger (dangerous AND stupid...it's a lose, lose).
--OH and don't forget about the negatives when you're lifting. They're deadly and super-effective. If you're not currently doing them, do negatives on like 3 of your bench-press reps next time you're in the gym and the next morning you'll feel exactly what those things are doing (and by "feel" I mean...muahahaha!). I throw in two at the end of every set. Any more than that and I wouldn't be able to get through my regular sets.
Bulking diets are simple. Eat. Eat more. Then eat. Definitely want to spike your protein within 20 minutes of your workout, but I wouldn't go a single meal or snack without at least some protein. At your weight and age, aside from any obvious chugging vegetable oil or main-lining twinkie-filling type asshattery, you can pretty much just eat and eat and eat with very little downside. Just make sure to keep the protein coming and pay attention to your cravings. I get my best results when I make sure and ALWAYS have a bag of almonds within reach and listen to what the hell my body is wanting for the rest (usually avocados, a cigarette and the love of a good woman...and avocados).
I didn't start gaining weight until I hit 24. Thing is, if you're not unhealthy I wouldn't worry about it for another year or two.
NoLe; what are negatives?
Faust, thanks. I just want to increase my sexy.
Quote from: Placid Dingo on November 30, 2011, 05:22:31 AM
NoLe; what are negatives?
Faust, thanks. I just want to increase my sexy.
There's a technical word for this that I'm forgetting, but it's basically the "downstroke" of each exercise. Like when you're doing bench-presses, instead of just bringing the bar down to your chest quick, try to resist the weight coming down. I usually count back from 10 while bringing the bar down. You'll especially feel them on any arm exercises. They'll kill your overhead presses. If you do them right you should very much regret it the next morning (desireable)
Quote from: NoLeDeMiel on November 30, 2011, 06:48:05 AM
Quote from: Placid Dingo on November 30, 2011, 05:22:31 AM
NoLe; what are negatives?
Faust, thanks. I just want to increase my sexy.
There's a technical word for this that I'm forgetting, but it's basically the "downstroke" of each exercise. Like when you're doing bench-presses, instead of just bringing the bar down to your chest quick, try to resist the weight coming down. I usually count back from 10 while bringing the bar down. You'll especially feel them on any arm exercises. They'll kill your overhead presses. If you do them right you should very much regret it the next morning (desireable)
I'm not doing benchpresses right now. I did have someone tell me 'strength is control' though and focussed on controlling all movements, not just letting gravity do it for me.
My boys, 17 and 15 respectively are both very fit. Being football players, they have both tried to bulk up for each season, with little success due to their metabolism. My youngest was able to add an additional 10 poaunds this last year which was great till he grew another 3 inches.
This is the list from the website the sport's dietician suggested to me.
#1 High in energy to help with muscle gain – eat three meals and regular snacks everyday.
#2 High in carbohydrate rich foods – breakfast cereal, bread, muffins, crackers and crisp breads, rice, pasta, potatoes, and fruit. These should form the basis for most meals and snacks. This will help with exercise performance, recovery from training, and muscle gain.
#3 Moderate in protein rich foods – meat, poultry, fish, dairy products, beans, peas, lentils, unsalted nuts. There is no need to eat masses of extra protein to "bulk up." Remember protein rich foods are not the main source of energy for exercise. In most cases the amount of protein required can be achieved simply by following a balanced healthy diet, which contains sufficient carbohydrate.
#4 Low in fat – try to avoid too much margarine, fatty meats, high fat takeaway and snacks, fried food and creamy sauces.
#5 High in fruit and vegetables – Include at least 5 servings of fruit and vegetables each day. They are necessary for preventing illness, building muscles and repairing injury.
#6 Low in alcohol – it leads to poor recovery, slow repair of injury, and can contribute to excess weight. If you drink alcohol, do so in moderation. - didn't really apply to them but you are of age so....
http://www.dietriffic.com/2008/05/27/what-football-players-ought-to-know-about-nutrition/ (http://www.dietriffic.com/2008/05/27/what-football-players-ought-to-know-about-nutrition/)
You have to remember they were involved in daily practice and weight lifting 3 times a week. They wanted to add muscle, basicaly "bulk up". These guidelines were very easy for us to follow.
One thing that is stressed in the program my sons are in and is contrary to what has been said here is cardio. This program has a lot of cardio focus to help them build stamina and endurance. It has never been said that it detracts from their weight gain.
Thanks Khara, that's top quality advice.