http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/12/12/domestic_drones_north_dakota_police_use_predator_spy_plane_to_arrest_suspects.html
QuoteThe Los Angeles Times reports that police in North Dakota this past summer made what are believed to be the first arrests of U.S. citizens with the help of a Predator spy drone.
QuoteLocal police said they have also used Predators for at least two dozen surveillance flights in recent months. From the LAT:
The drones belong to U.S. Customs and Border Protection, which operates eight Predators on the country's northern and southwestern borders to search for illegal immigrants and smugglers. The previously unreported use of its drones to assist local, state and federal law enforcement has occurred without any public acknowledgment or debate.
Sigh. Yeah i forget who called it first but it wasnt too long ago either.
Dunno, who called it, but the next step is more worrying: the companies that build these drones have been aggressively lobbying for weaponized drones to be used in law enforcement.
To be precise, they make an awful lot of noise about how bean-bags and tear-gas cannisters and similar can be added onto a drone in place of Hellfire missiles, and be used to "pacify" a crowd of protestors much more easily than the police can. Note: this was happening before the Occupy Protests occured.
Quote from: Cain on December 13, 2011, 02:55:14 PM
Dunno, who called it, but the next step is more worrying: the companies that build these drones have been aggressively lobbying for weaponized drones to be used in law enforcement.
To be precise, they make an awful lot of noise about how bean-bags and tear-gas cannisters and similar can be added onto a drone in place of Hellfire missiles, and be used to "pacify" a crowd of protestors much more easily than the police can. Note: this was happening before the Occupy Protests occured.
I find if fascinating how much effort our governments are putting into treating their own citizens as the enemy.
It does seem a rather pressing concerning for the coldest of all cold beasts.
I rather suspect a self-fulfilling prophecy is at play here. Government gets up to nasty shit. Government fears people will find out, takes steps to repress them pre-emptively. Government forgets original purpose of legislation and technology, and starts using them for short-term political gain. Actual acts of repression end up lighting a powder keg of completely unrelated greivances. Government gets done over.
If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear from the heavily armed battle droid.
Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on December 13, 2011, 03:53:01 PM
If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear from the heavily armed battle droid.
This put a grin on my face and now I can't get rid of it.
Quote from: Beardman Meow on December 13, 2011, 03:57:42 PM
Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on December 13, 2011, 03:53:01 PM
If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear from the heavily armed battle droid.
This put a grin on my face and now I can't get rid of it.
I damn near pooped. :lulz:
Quote from: Cain on December 13, 2011, 03:49:10 PM
It does seem a rather pressing concerning for the coldest of all cold beasts.
I rather suspect a self-fulfilling prophecy is at play here. Government gets up to nasty shit. Government fears people will find out, takes steps to repress them pre-emptively. Government forgets original purpose of legislation and technology, and starts using them for short-term political gain. Actual acts of repression end up lighting a powder keg of completely unrelated greivances. Government gets done over.
I just think things are too complex to govern, and our leaders have lost their nerve. Some Italian guy talked about this once, a few centuries back.
BREAKING: predator drone unveiled in Detroit, malfunctions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9l9wxGFl4k&feature=related)
Those cost 4.5 mill each. Anyone self respecting criminal could stand to make a mint should they get a good shot as one of those clay pigeons.
PULL.
The Kvant 1L222 Avtobaza ELINT System is what Iran used to hack the American drone...allegedly. Having trouble finding a price-tag, but I suspect it is not as expensive, as say, having a hacked drone go haywire and attack the other, unhacked drones.
Quote from: Cain on December 13, 2011, 04:11:35 PM
The Kvant 1L222 Avtobaza ELINT System is what Iran used to hack the American drone...allegedly. Having trouble finding a price-tag, but I suspect it is not as expensive, as say, having a hacked drone go haywire and attack the other, unhacked drones.
I imagine you could hide one of these in a semi.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/28kndlh.jpg)
Maybe disguise it as an ice cream truck?
(http://i44.tinypic.com/rmtl4k.jpg)
Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on December 13, 2011, 05:22:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 13, 2011, 04:11:35 PM
The Kvant 1L222 Avtobaza ELINT System is what Iran used to hack the American drone...allegedly. Having trouble finding a price-tag, but I suspect it is not as expensive, as say, having a hacked drone go haywire and attack the other, unhacked drones.
I imagine you could hide one of these in a semi.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/28kndlh.jpg)
Maybe disguise it as an ice cream truck?
(http://i44.tinypic.com/rmtl4k.jpg)
Wouldn't work in Tucson. :lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 13, 2011, 03:24:57 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 13, 2011, 02:55:14 PM
Dunno, who called it, but the next step is more worrying: the companies that build these drones have been aggressively lobbying for weaponized drones to be used in law enforcement.
To be precise, they make an awful lot of noise about how bean-bags and tear-gas cannisters and similar can be added onto a drone in place of Hellfire missiles, and be used to "pacify" a crowd of protestors much more easily than the police can. Note: this was happening before the Occupy Protests occured.
I find if fascinating how much effort our governments are putting into treating their own citizens as the enemy.
:crybaby:
But-but-but all the other enemies actually fight back!
At the risk of being completely wrong, ahem
I CALLED IT MOTHERFUCKERS...wait. Wait why don't I feel victorious?
Why do I feel so awful?
OH GOD THIS MUST BE HOW ROGER FEELS ALL THE TIME
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on December 13, 2011, 08:46:40 PM
At the risk of being completely wrong, ahem
I CALLED IT MOTHERFUCKERS...wait. Wait why don't I feel victorious?
Why do I feel so awful?
OH GOD THIS MUST BE HOW ROGER FEELS ALL THE TIME
I wasn't sure if I called it or not.
And, yeah. You should get one of those weight lifting belts now, to help hold your spleen in as you screech out laughter for the rest of your days.
I can't wait until they start using that pain ray they're developing on children and old women, I'M GOING TO BE SO RIGHT THAT DAY!
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on December 13, 2011, 09:25:34 PM
I can't wait until they start using that pain ray they're developing on children and old women, I'M GOING TO BE SO RIGHT THAT DAY!
That old lady that got gassed? Yeah, I had a special kind of laugh that night. It wasn't really a nice laugh. It sounded like the devil burping.
Next, they'll have the national guard start shooting people on the docks in Oakland and/or Seattle. Or maybe the cops will just do it. And there'll be a lot of "regret" over it, and the president will say what a shame it all is, and then the police and/or national guard will investigate themselves and find that it was a justified - if regrettable - incident.
And two days later, nobody will remember anything about it, because some kid will go missing in California, or some other "people story" will hit the news.
The end.
QuoteNext, they'll have the national guard start shooting people on the docks in Oakland and/or Seattle. Or maybe the cops will just do it.
No functional difference anymore, anyway. When the cops have tanks and heavy weapons, they might as well be soldiers. In fact, I think soldiers would probably be more hesistant about using such things in a civilian setting, on American soil.
GUYS
Guys, bear with me here but-
What if we all joined the police.
I don't just mean us. I mean everybody.
Then they'd have send the military, and we repeat the whole thing. This process goes on until we are all the President.
After that, we have to choice but to keep it up. We have to keep upping the stakes until we're all popes or something.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 13, 2011, 02:39:24 PM
http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/12/12/domestic_drones_north_dakota_police_use_predator_spy_plane_to_arrest_suspects.html
QuoteThe Los Angeles Times reports that police in North Dakota this past summer made what are believed to be the first arrests of U.S. citizens with the help of a Predator spy drone.
QuoteLocal police said they have also used Predators for at least two dozen surveillance flights in recent months. From the LAT:
The drones belong to U.S. Customs and Border Protection, which operates eight Predators on the country's northern and southwestern borders to search for illegal immigrants and smugglers. The previously unreported use of its drones to assist local, state and federal law enforcement has occurred without any public acknowledgment or debate.
Wow wow wow.
The article mentions that the sheriff was chased off of a family farm and doesn't mention anything about what the sheriff was there for.
A little digging. There were some missing cows, and a potential misdemeanor charge which became felony charges for "terrorizing a Sheriff".
Well, that about kills the last remaining Old West.
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 12:54:25 AM
Well, that about kills the last remaining Old West.
Not really.
The old West had some harsh fucking laws that didn't even give lip service to the constitution. It also had weird fuckers that just didn't care. Nowadays, we have harsh fucking laws that don't even give lip service to the constitution, and weird motherfuckers that just don't care.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 14, 2011, 04:57:14 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 12:54:25 AM
Well, that about kills the last remaining Old West.
Not really.
The old West had some harsh fucking laws that didn't even give lip service to the constitution. It also had weird fuckers that just didn't care. Nowadays, we have harsh fucking laws that don't even give lip service to the constitution, and weird motherfuckers that just don't care.
I guess you have a point. But now there's also weird fucking spyplanes and shit.
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 14, 2011, 04:57:14 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 12:54:25 AM
Well, that about kills the last remaining Old West.
Not really.
The old West had some harsh fucking laws that didn't even give lip service to the constitution. It also had weird fuckers that just didn't care. Nowadays, we have harsh fucking laws that don't even give lip service to the constitution, and weird motherfuckers that just don't care.
I guess you have a point. But now there's also weird fucking spyplanes and shit.
So the Old West has some high tech.
As long as there are drive-by shootings and dead people in dumpsters, the Old West is alive and well.
Fun fact: Almost every "gun fight" in the Old West involved someone getting shot in the back, or while in bed, etc. The number of "classic gunfights" as the general public understands them could be described in a few minutes, and most of them involved the same 3-4 guys. Most of whom wound up getting shot in the back.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 14, 2011, 06:36:31 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 14, 2011, 04:57:14 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 12:54:25 AM
Well, that about kills the last remaining Old West.
Not really.
The old West had some harsh fucking laws that didn't even give lip service to the constitution. It also had weird fuckers that just didn't care. Nowadays, we have harsh fucking laws that don't even give lip service to the constitution, and weird motherfuckers that just don't care.
I guess you have a point. But now there's also weird fucking spyplanes and shit.
So the Old West has some high tech.
As long as there are drive-by shootings and dead people in dumpsters, the Old West is alive and well.
Fun fact: Almost every "gun fight" in the Old West involved someone getting shot in the back, or while in bed, etc. The number of "classic gunfights" as the general public understands them could be described in a few minutes, and most of them involved the same 3-4 guys. Most of whom wound up getting shot in the back.
I am having one of those days that makes me want to put my head on the desk and never get up. This is why.
Oh, America.
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 06:38:41 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 14, 2011, 06:36:31 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 14, 2011, 04:57:14 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 12:54:25 AM
Well, that about kills the last remaining Old West.
Not really.
The old West had some harsh fucking laws that didn't even give lip service to the constitution. It also had weird fuckers that just didn't care. Nowadays, we have harsh fucking laws that don't even give lip service to the constitution, and weird motherfuckers that just don't care.
I guess you have a point. But now there's also weird fucking spyplanes and shit.
So the Old West has some high tech.
As long as there are drive-by shootings and dead people in dumpsters, the Old West is alive and well.
Fun fact: Almost every "gun fight" in the Old West involved someone getting shot in the back, or while in bed, etc. The number of "classic gunfights" as the general public understands them could be described in a few minutes, and most of them involved the same 3-4 guys. Most of whom wound up getting shot in the back.
I am having one of those days that makes me want to put my head on the desk and never get up. This is why.
Oh, America.
Thing is, the backstabbing bastards that were the norm make people like Wild Bill Hickock even cooler by comparison. He was the real fucking deal.
Sometimes you just gotta roll in the filth with the piggies, to have a good time.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 14, 2011, 06:57:41 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 06:38:41 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 14, 2011, 06:36:31 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 14, 2011, 04:57:14 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 12:54:25 AM
Well, that about kills the last remaining Old West.
Not really.
The old West had some harsh fucking laws that didn't even give lip service to the constitution. It also had weird fuckers that just didn't care. Nowadays, we have harsh fucking laws that don't even give lip service to the constitution, and weird motherfuckers that just don't care.
I guess you have a point. But now there's also weird fucking spyplanes and shit.
So the Old West has some high tech.
As long as there are drive-by shootings and dead people in dumpsters, the Old West is alive and well.
Fun fact: Almost every "gun fight" in the Old West involved someone getting shot in the back, or while in bed, etc. The number of "classic gunfights" as the general public understands them could be described in a few minutes, and most of them involved the same 3-4 guys. Most of whom wound up getting shot in the back.
I am having one of those days that makes me want to put my head on the desk and never get up. This is why.
Oh, America.
Thing is, the backstabbing bastards that were the norm make people like Wild Bill Hickock even cooler by comparison. He was the real fucking deal.
Sometimes you just gotta roll in the filth with the piggies, to have a good time.
I am not even sure where to find a good time™ anymore.
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 07:00:04 PM
I am not even sure where to find a good time™ anymore.
That's because you've been backsliding, Nigel. You've lost your Slack™. You can't see The Wall™. There's been time for everything...Everything except FUN and "Bob" and Saturday Night. You've allowed yourself to become concerned with shit like "HEY! WHO'S DRIVING THIS DAMN THING?" and "WHY IS THERE NOBODY IN THE COCKPIT?" and "HOLY SHIT! I'M ON THE PLANET OF THE APES!"
And until you fix that, you will be lost, LOST I SAY, like the Chicago Bears. REPENT, THERE'S STILL TIME!
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 14, 2011, 07:06:45 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 07:00:04 PM
I am not even sure where to find a good time™ anymore.
That's because you've been backsliding, Nigel. You've lost your Slack™. You can't see The Wall™. There's been time for everything...Everything except FUN and "Bob" and Saturday Night. You've allowed yourself to become concerned with shit like "HEY! WHO'S DRIVING THIS DAMN THING?" and "WHY IS THERE NOBODY IN THE COCKPIT?" and "HOLY SHIT! I'M ON THE PLANET OF THE APES!"
And until you fix that, you will be lost, LOST I SAY, like the Chicago Bears. REPENT, THERE'S STILL TIME!
:x
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 07:23:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 14, 2011, 07:06:45 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 07:00:04 PM
I am not even sure where to find a good time™ anymore.
That's because you've been backsliding, Nigel. You've lost your Slack™. You can't see The Wall™. There's been time for everything...Everything except FUN and "Bob" and Saturday Night. You've allowed yourself to become concerned with shit like "HEY! WHO'S DRIVING THIS DAMN THING?" and "WHY IS THERE NOBODY IN THE COCKPIT?" and "HOLY SHIT! I'M ON THE PLANET OF THE APES!"
And until you fix that, you will be lost, LOST I SAY, like the Chicago Bears. REPENT, THERE'S STILL TIME!
:x
No need to worry, little Sally! Your resident Holy Man™ is here with all the answers, SIR! We'll have you right as rain in no time, MA'AM! The reason why nobody is driving the car is that we have CRUISE CONTROL, so everyone can make out in the back seat on the way to work. The reason why there's nobody in the cockpit is because we got just a little TIRED of BIG GOVERNMENT telling us we needed to have someone take us places. And you're on the planet of the apes because, well, YOU'RE AN APE.
And since you're an ape and not some worry-wart species like those FUCKING CATS, you can relax. Throw poop. Masturbate in public. Screech at people for reasons they'll never understand. Let people mistake your smile for friendliness, instead of the primate "last warning" (smile at a chimpanzee, and he'll teach you to never move your mouth again).
Don't get all pissed off. It's only humans being humans. May as well get mad at the sun for rising...Because there's TAKING A WALK and DOING SOMETHING STUPID JUST BECAUSE and HECKLING IDIOTS and SEX and WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and it's all out there waiting for you to STOP WORRYING AND LOVE THE COMING WEIRD TIMES.
After all, the worst thing THEY can do is kill you. Well, maybe they can do worse, but they save that for problem cases.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 14, 2011, 07:33:36 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 07:23:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 14, 2011, 07:06:45 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 07:00:04 PM
I am not even sure where to find a good time™ anymore.
That's because you've been backsliding, Nigel. You've lost your Slack™. You can't see The Wall™. There's been time for everything...Everything except FUN and "Bob" and Saturday Night. You've allowed yourself to become concerned with shit like "HEY! WHO'S DRIVING THIS DAMN THING?" and "WHY IS THERE NOBODY IN THE COCKPIT?" and "HOLY SHIT! I'M ON THE PLANET OF THE APES!"
And until you fix that, you will be lost, LOST I SAY, like the Chicago Bears. REPENT, THERE'S STILL TIME!
:x
No need to worry, little Sally! Your resident Holy Man™ is here with all the answers, SIR! We'll have you right as rain in no time, MA'AM! The reason why nobody is driving the car is that we have CRUISE CONTROL, so everyone can make out in the back seat on the way to work. The reason why there's nobody in the cockpit is because we got just a little TIRED of BIG GOVERNMENT telling us we needed to have someone take us places. And you're on the planet of the apes because, well, YOU'RE AN APE.
And since you're an ape and not some worry-wart species like those FUCKING CATS, you can relax. Throw poop. Masturbate in public. Screech at people for reasons they'll never understand. Let people mistake your smile for friendliness, instead of the primate "last warning" (smile at a chimpanzee, and he'll teach you to never move your mouth again).
Don't get all pissed off. It's only humans being humans. May as well get mad at the sun for rising...Because there's TAKING A WALK and DOING SOMETHING STUPID JUST BECAUSE and HECKLING IDIOTS and SEX and WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and it's all out there waiting for you to STOP WORRYING AND LOVE THE COMING WEIRD TIMES.
After all, the worst thing THEY can do is kill you. Well, maybe they can do worse, but they save that for problem cases.
George Orwell called; he wants his dystopian future back.
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 07:37:41 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 14, 2011, 07:33:36 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 07:23:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 14, 2011, 07:06:45 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 07:00:04 PM
I am not even sure where to find a good time™ anymore.
That's because you've been backsliding, Nigel. You've lost your Slack™. You can't see The Wall™. There's been time for everything...Everything except FUN and "Bob" and Saturday Night. You've allowed yourself to become concerned with shit like "HEY! WHO'S DRIVING THIS DAMN THING?" and "WHY IS THERE NOBODY IN THE COCKPIT?" and "HOLY SHIT! I'M ON THE PLANET OF THE APES!"
And until you fix that, you will be lost, LOST I SAY, like the Chicago Bears. REPENT, THERE'S STILL TIME!
:x
No need to worry, little Sally! Your resident Holy Man™ is here with all the answers, SIR! We'll have you right as rain in no time, MA'AM! The reason why nobody is driving the car is that we have CRUISE CONTROL, so everyone can make out in the back seat on the way to work. The reason why there's nobody in the cockpit is because we got just a little TIRED of BIG GOVERNMENT telling us we needed to have someone take us places. And you're on the planet of the apes because, well, YOU'RE AN APE.
And since you're an ape and not some worry-wart species like those FUCKING CATS, you can relax. Throw poop. Masturbate in public. Screech at people for reasons they'll never understand. Let people mistake your smile for friendliness, instead of the primate "last warning" (smile at a chimpanzee, and he'll teach you to never move your mouth again).
Don't get all pissed off. It's only humans being humans. May as well get mad at the sun for rising...Because there's TAKING A WALK and DOING SOMETHING STUPID JUST BECAUSE and HECKLING IDIOTS and SEX and WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and it's all out there waiting for you to STOP WORRYING AND LOVE THE COMING WEIRD TIMES.
After all, the worst thing THEY can do is kill you. Well, maybe they can do worse, but they save that for problem cases.
George Orwell called; he wants his dystopian future back.
Dystopian?
I'm having a great time. It's all how you see the glass of water.
Optimist: Glass is half full.
Pessimist: Glass is half empty.
Modern American: I'm not sure what's in that glass, but I know I'll like it!
TGRR: I just peed in a glass, and some retard is eyeballing it.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 14, 2011, 07:42:44 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 07:37:41 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 14, 2011, 07:33:36 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 07:23:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 14, 2011, 07:06:45 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 14, 2011, 07:00:04 PM
I am not even sure where to find a good time™ anymore.
That's because you've been backsliding, Nigel. You've lost your Slack™. You can't see The Wall™. There's been time for everything...Everything except FUN and "Bob" and Saturday Night. You've allowed yourself to become concerned with shit like "HEY! WHO'S DRIVING THIS DAMN THING?" and "WHY IS THERE NOBODY IN THE COCKPIT?" and "HOLY SHIT! I'M ON THE PLANET OF THE APES!"
And until you fix that, you will be lost, LOST I SAY, like the Chicago Bears. REPENT, THERE'S STILL TIME!
:x
No need to worry, little Sally! Your resident Holy Man™ is here with all the answers, SIR! We'll have you right as rain in no time, MA'AM! The reason why nobody is driving the car is that we have CRUISE CONTROL, so everyone can make out in the back seat on the way to work. The reason why there's nobody in the cockpit is because we got just a little TIRED of BIG GOVERNMENT telling us we needed to have someone take us places. And you're on the planet of the apes because, well, YOU'RE AN APE.
And since you're an ape and not some worry-wart species like those FUCKING CATS, you can relax. Throw poop. Masturbate in public. Screech at people for reasons they'll never understand. Let people mistake your smile for friendliness, instead of the primate "last warning" (smile at a chimpanzee, and he'll teach you to never move your mouth again).
Don't get all pissed off. It's only humans being humans. May as well get mad at the sun for rising...Because there's TAKING A WALK and DOING SOMETHING STUPID JUST BECAUSE and HECKLING IDIOTS and SEX and WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and it's all out there waiting for you to STOP WORRYING AND LOVE THE COMING WEIRD TIMES.
After all, the worst thing THEY can do is kill you. Well, maybe they can do worse, but they save that for problem cases.
George Orwell called; he wants his dystopian future back.
Dystopian?
I'm having a great time. It's all how you see the glass of water.
Optimist: Glass is half full.
Pessimist: Glass is half empty.
Modern American: I'm not sure what's in that glass, but I know I'll like it!
TGRR: I just peed in a glass, and some retard is eyeballing it.
:lulz: