Burn in hell, you motherfucking bastard.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_KOREA_KIM_JONG_IL?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-12-18-22-08-46
And now we wait for the celebratory nukes.
No more Kim Jong-Il looking at things (http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/)?
This is indeed a sad day.
Not to stir up any drama, but would anyone mind if I celebrated this man's death as a good thing?
Because, sure, he was human(ish). And a father. But still. I'm really not feeling any remorse here.
Um...I think we can celebrate this one.
I hope he burns in Tartarus, over and over again, in the flames of 1000 nuclear weapons.
You know, it really bothers me when people make threads celebrating the death of another human being. All life is sacred and junk.
Just kidding.
Fuck that dead ass cuntnugget.
:lulz:
Quote from: Beardman Meow on December 19, 2011, 03:19:10 AM
No more Kim Jong-Il looking at things (http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/)?
This is indeed a sad day.
You can have the ghost of Kim Jong-Il looking at things, though.
See, here is Kim's ghost looking at a sewing room:
(http://www.lancashire.co.za/images/factory-sewing-machine-room_lg.jpg)
and Kim's ghost looking at a factory:
(http://www.designhomes.com/images/factory-6.jpg)
Quote from: Rumckle on December 19, 2011, 08:54:42 AM
Quote from: Beardman Meow on December 19, 2011, 03:19:10 AM
No more Kim Jong-Il looking at things (http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/)?
This is indeed a sad day.
You can have the ghost of Kim Jong-Il looking at things, though.
THAT IS THE PERFECT IDEA FOR A TUMBLR.
He will be missed.
Goodbye fearless leader.
quickly! somebody register kimjongunlookingatthings.tumblr.com
OMFG YOU HEARTLESS BASTARDS HOW COULD YOU!!!!???!?!???!!!
Aaaaaaaand....There was a missile test this morning. You know, celebratory fireworks or some shit.
Just wait until the military coup next month.
Quote from: Cain on December 19, 2011, 02:40:09 PM
Just wait until the military coup next month.
We were talking last night on Facebook, on why China or Russia just didn't go, "MINE, SUCKERS!"
The fact is NO ONE WANTS NORTH KOREA EXCEPT SOUTH KOREA.
And still, NK is so fucking poor that it would bankrupt SK if they ever tried to unify, so it's a moot point.
Well of course they don't. North Korea is a mess, a drain on any potential conqueror with nothing worth showing for it.
However, the fact remains the military is the most powerful institution in the country, and seemingly the least war-adverse (Kim Jong Il's brinkmanship sometimes only made sense if you accepted the fact the military was not totally under his control). Jim Jong-Un is looking to elevvate the role of the Korean Workers Party - with the help of the Chinese, to act as a brake on the North Korean military's ambitions.
So there will be a coup. It may not be publically announced, especially not if the coup is victorious, but if the military isn't purged, and fast, the risk of war is so much higher.
So if Kim Jong-not so-il is looking for support from China, wouldn't that just make shit with the military scary? Or is China not even going to bother to reinforce Junior if the military get's all uppity?
Because that could potentially get fucking nasty.
I doubt China would act overtly with their military, unless threatened. The support they are offering is political in nature, strengthening institutions, offering advice on opening the country to foreign trade and investment etc.
Unless the military junta then turned on China, they'd probably just cut their losses and wait in the wings for the new regime to fall, or else try and find moderates within it they can strike deals with. The Chinese don't discern, when it comes to state ideology, they just care about getting paid.
It's a little nerve-wracking when any dictator kicks it, because of the inevitable power grabs and political jockeying.
The main players here are
Kim Jong-Un
The aging generals in the military
Kim Kyung-hui/Jang Song-thaek - Jong-il's sister and her husband.
Jong-thaek is vice chairman of the National Defense Commission, and both are known to be ambitious. The National Defence Commission is the real seat of power in North Korean politics, and an alliance between Song-thaek and the generals is fairly likely. Also unknown is the role Kim Jong-il's wife may yet play.
Look: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccsNr9UJeVY :fnord:
Quote from: Khore on December 19, 2011, 04:46:10 PM
Look: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccsNr9UJeVY :fnord:
I actually find that pretty upsetting, because it shows how much the people are completely brainwashed with the regime, even school children. :(
Or it could be that not crying is harardous to one's long-term prospects. Lots of people cried when Mao died for this precise reason.
There is also probably a lot of fear and uncertainty about what is going to happen next, which is expressing itself as mass hysteria. I believe Zhou Enlai's death in China provoked a similar reaction.
Quote from: Cain on December 19, 2011, 04:54:10 PM
Or it could be that not crying is harardous to one's long-term prospects. Lots of people cried when Mao died for this precise reason.
There is also probably a lot of fear and uncertainty about what is going to happen next, which is expressing itself as mass hysteria. I believe Zhou Enlai's death in China provoked a similar reaction.
Still, really upsetting. :(
Just imagine the mass hysteria that would ensue if Justin Bieber died.
Quote from: Cain on December 19, 2011, 04:54:10 PM
Or it could be that not crying is harardous to one's long-term prospects. Lots of people cried when Mao died for this precise reason.
There is also probably a lot of fear and uncertainty about what is going to happen next, which is expressing itself as mass hysteria. I believe Zhou Enlai's death in China provoked a similar reaction.
This is probably very accurate.
Quote from: Suu on December 19, 2011, 04:49:33 PM
Quote from: Khore on December 19, 2011, 04:46:10 PM
Look: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccsNr9UJeVY :fnord:
I actually find that pretty upsetting, because it shows how much the people are completely brainwashed with the regime, even school children. :(
Yes, is sad. But, what i can say?
They are really mad, or really not... if they are experience true sad.
Strange, we all brainwashed more or less, in differents moments of our lives.
Only we think that this is not normal and our lives are normals, but everything is the same stuff.
Quote from: Nigel on December 19, 2011, 04:58:07 PM
Just imagine the mass hysteria that would ensue if Justin Bieber died.
:spittake:
So long, Mr Funny-Kidnapping-Japanese-People-to-Make-Godzilla-Films-Man. :wave:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2011, 06:22:41 PM
So long, Mr Funny-Kidnapping-Japanese-People-to-Make-Godzilla-Films-Man. :wave:
I know it's not funny per se....
however....
:spittake:
QuoteIt's very sad to hear of the passing of Christopher Hitchens. One of the clearest thinkers and most powerful speakers I've ever seen. He's done so much for atheism, journalism and political commentary in his short time, and despite succumbing to oesophegal cancer he fought a brave fight - Hitchslapping his way through the public conscience until the very end. R.I.P.
It's very sad to hear of the passing of Kim Jonh Il. One of the clearest thinkers and most powerful speakers I've ever seen. He's done so much for communism, journalism and political commentary in his short time, and despite succumbing to pressures of the west he fought a brave fight - Hitchslapping his way through the public conscience until the very end. R.I.P.
"In lieu of flowers, the family of Kim Jong-il asks you to starve a person to death in his memory."
Quote from: Faust on December 19, 2011, 06:45:14 PM
QuoteIt's very sad to hear of the passing of Christopher Hitchens. One of the clearest thinkers and most powerful speakers I've ever seen. He's done so much for atheism, journalism and political commentary in his short time, and despite succumbing to oesophegal cancer he fought a brave fight - Hitchslapping his way through the public conscience until the very end. R.I.P.
It's very sad to hear of the passing of Kim Jonh Il. One of the clearest thinkers and most powerful speakers I've ever seen. He's done so much for communism, journalism and political commentary in his short time, and despite succumbing to pressures of the west he fought a brave fight - Hitchslapping his way through the public conscience until the very end. R.I.P.
:lulz:
I feel bad for those people who are either crying cause they're scared or cause they don't know any better :sad:
Quote from: Lenin McCarthy on December 19, 2011, 07:13:42 PM
"In lieu of flowers, the family of Kim Jong-il asks you to starve a person to death in his memory."
:lulz:
He's just sleeping. Legend has it that if Mr Handsome makes out with Jung Il's chin, Dear Leader will wake.
(http://i.imgur.com/37KzH.jpg)
Reports from North Korea suggest nature itself is weeping at the death of Kim Jong-il
Yeah i saw that too. It makes me wonder if a few centuries from now kimmism will be recognized as a valid religion.
Quote from: Nigel on December 19, 2011, 04:58:07 PM
Just imagine the mass hysteria that would ensue if Justin Bieber died.
I imagine he'll probably inspire a few fans to go with him, since he is this generation's Kurt Cobain and all tat.
Quote from: Science me, babby on December 22, 2011, 06:56:11 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 19, 2011, 04:58:07 PM
Just imagine the mass hysteria that would ensue if Justin Bieber died.
I imagine he'll probably inspire a few fans to go with him, since he is this generation's Kurt Cobain and all tat.
We can only hope.
Think John Lennon. Or JFK.
Quote from: Science me, babby on December 22, 2011, 06:56:11 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 19, 2011, 04:58:07 PM
Just imagine the mass hysteria that would ensue if Justin Bieber died.
I imagine he'll probably inspire a few fans to go with him, since he is this generation's Kurt Cobain and all tat.
I dunno. I think a bunch of kids would get upset but I don't think it would be that big a deal. And I don't think there were really that many copycat suicides after KC killed himself. At least I don't recall that happening.
I was thinking about the public weeping.
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 23, 2011, 01:50:14 AM
Quote from: Science me, babby on December 22, 2011, 06:56:11 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 19, 2011, 04:58:07 PM
Just imagine the mass hysteria that would ensue if Justin Bieber died.
I imagine he'll probably inspire a few fans to go with him, since he is this generation's Kurt Cobain and all tat.
I dunno. I think a bunch of kids would get upset but I don't think it would be that big a deal. And I don't think there were really that many copycat suicides after KC killed himself. At least I don't recall that happening.
Must have been an urban myth type thing.
After Jerry Garcia died, a guy I know started printing t-shirts with Jerry Garcia at the pearly gates, and a bunch of deadheads behind him.
The caption read: "I can't help it. They follow me everywhere."
Quote from: Science me, babby on December 23, 2011, 01:54:35 AM
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 23, 2011, 01:50:14 AM
Quote from: Science me, babby on December 22, 2011, 06:56:11 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 19, 2011, 04:58:07 PM
Just imagine the mass hysteria that would ensue if Justin Bieber died.
I imagine he'll probably inspire a few fans to go with him, since he is this generation's Kurt Cobain and all tat.
I dunno. I think a bunch of kids would get upset but I don't think it would be that big a deal. And I don't think there were really that many copycat suicides after KC killed himself. At least I don't recall that happening.
Must have been an urban myth type thing.
Actually, copycat suicides have always been, at least since the beginning of mass media. There's even statistics that show a temporary rise in roadside accidents after a widely published celebrity suicide, in the sense that yeah there are apparently people that are sufficiently depressed and just turning the wheel and driving into that tree is such an easy and split-second decision ... :x
FWIW:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/f2ev96v5j89tbm46/
QuoteAbstract
This study examined the total rate of suicide in Australia for young people (aged 15–19 and 20–24 years) for the 30 day period after the announcement of Kurt Cobain''s suicide in 1994, comparing with the identical period for the previous five years and accounting for unequal variability in weekends, Mondays and public holidays. The 1994 rates for male suicides for both age groups were lower than for 1992 and 1993, and were more similar to the 1990 rates. Female rates showed a steady small decline over the five years, sustained in 1994. Rates overall showed a reduction in all of the first five, ten and fifteen day rates, compared with previous years. There was no evidence of any increase in deaths from gunshot, the method used by Cobain. The conclusion appears to be that this celebrity suicide had little impact on suicide in young persons in Australia. Possible reasons for this are discussed.
Another study in the Seattle area here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez/8897665?dopt=Abstract&holding=f1000,f1000m,isrctn
Increase calls to crisis centers but didn't seem to be a bump in suicides linked to Cobain's. If anything, it seemed to really spark social services agencies to go into overdrive and take some proactive steps to prepare for the worst, which didn't really materialize. Interesting.
When John Lennon and JFK died, there were crowds of weeping people mourning their deaths in public. Not on the scale of Kim Jong Il, but still, it's not an isolated or unique phenomenon for crowds to mourn the death of a public figure. That was what I was trying to get at. Had nothing to do with suicide.
Maybe the statistics I heard about were bullshit then, I should try and find a reference. The traffic thing was not measured just for young people, though.
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 23, 2011, 05:31:52 PM
Maybe the statistics I heard about were bullshit then, I should try and find a reference. The traffic thing was not measured just for young people, though.
It's called the "Werther Effect" and at least two studies indicate that there is a significant statistical increase in suicides and suicide attempt in the month following a celebrity suicide.
The original 1974 study: http://www.jstor.org/pss/2094294
A later study designed to test the 1974 study: http://www.jstor.org/pss/2095285
An interesting related study: http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract;jsessionid=CE557035E3A8A269EB25780F343B1217.journals?fromPage=online&aid=4993184
http://kimjongildroppingthebass.tumblr.com/
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 23, 2011, 09:49:35 PM
http://kimjongildroppingthebass.tumblr.com/
That is AMAZING.
For the people that were sad about kimjongillookingatthings :)