i dare say i am dumb and failed to find it but i have not found the place where people wandering in here have an opportunity to say hello
so hello
Are you a good witch or a bad witch?
In general, we're people who capitalize properly.
Oh, and use punctuation. For the most part.
Anyway, welcome. Please don't feed the beard, and keep all limbs inside the vehicle.
We prefer clear communication here. This includes standard writing conventions. Im not doing it now because im posting from my phone but follow standard writing when at home. Exceptions are granted for hirley0 and eot.
Quote from: holist on January 05, 2012, 08:29:46 PM
i see
is people not capitalise properly, not use plural or indeed verbs properly, not allowed?
i hope not so
=conventional punctuation mode on=
But for the record: let's just assume that for some obscure reason I prefer to write without capitals and full stops, punctuating sentences by paragraph breaks. This is a very simple convention to follow - and it is also a small cultural experiment of mine. It has drawn immediate hostile criticism on a number of forums. I'm wondering if perhaps my fellow discordians are a cut above the rest and have the mental aptitude for simply disregarding my typographic antics.
=conventional punctuation mode off=
see?
Yes, yes. It's a socioLOLgical experiment. The thing is, we tend to be a lot more focused on the accurate communication of ideas -- and to that end, we use conventionally accepted grammar and syntax, so the message does not get lost in the medium.
You're free to post as you please, of course. But if you have anything really serious to say, it would probably be in your best interest not to spag it up with unconventional linguistic symbol use.
Quote from: holist on January 05, 2012, 08:29:46 PM
i see
is people not capitalise properly, not use plural or indeed verbs properly, not allowed?
i hope not so
=conventional punctuation mode on=
But for the record: let's just assume that for some obscure reason I prefer to write without capitals and full stops, punctuating sentences by paragraph breaks. This is a very simple convention to follow - and it is also a small cultural experiment of mine. It has drawn immediate hostile criticism on a number of forums. I'm wondering if perhaps my fellow discordians are a cut above the rest and have the mental aptitude for simply disregarding my typographic antics.
=conventional punctuation mode off=
see?
Your schtick?
It has already been done here, several times. It wasn't funny, cute, enlightening, amusing, or zany then, and it isn't now. If you wish to contribute here, don't seek attention by posting in a unique" manner, instead post stuff that is worthy of note on its own merit.
Dear sir and/or madam,
Welcome to our corner of the internet. It is with great pleasure that we welcome you with somewhat open arms, and most assuredly open pance (in LMNO's case). We would like you to feel welcome here, and let you know that, first of all, there is a pool on the roof. I would recommend avoiding it, but that's just me.
Anyway, there are several things that you should be aware of. The first is that is extremely likely that someone, somewhere on this forum will take an irrational dislike to you for no discernible reason. At least, that may be how it appears. In reality, there is probably a legitimate reason for this, and it would in your best interest to either ignore said person, or figure the problem and rectify it. Under no circumstances should you engage in a war of words with your assailant. Troll fights round these part tend to be short, bloody, and traumatizing. If, despite this warning you insist upon doing so, and find yourself being ganged up on, PM The Mgt.
Secondly, while it is typical decorum on the Internet to forgo standard rules of capitalization and punctuation, this is sometimes taken as a challenge by some of the members, and can lead to the aforementioned situation. We generally hold ourselves to a highr standard, and therefore expect the same of new members.
Third, anyone with the title of "Doktor" is not to be trusted under any circumstances. Phox is a particularly untrustworthy sort, and has been known to lead well-meaning newbies astray. Don't listen to her.
Love and kisses,
Doktor D. Jennifer Phox
Hey Holist, welcome aboard.
HELLO HOLIST. CUTE BEAR.
WELCOME ABOARD.
You seem like a right enough chap to me.
Do you really have six kids?
Damn, that's a lot of kids.
I'm interested in what homeopathic principles for writing music are.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 05, 2012, 09:33:14 PM
I'm interested in what homeopathic principles for writing music are.
Or developing circus shows, perhaps? That's how I read it.
Sounds a bit like the less music he writes, the more the audience seems to enjoy it.
Sorry about that. It wasn't a dig at you, it's a homeopathy joke.
Quote from: holist on January 05, 2012, 09:18:06 PM
The thing is, I really do like writing like that... but I figure I'll try to be curteous and write my response in txt and before I copy it over to the PD forum I correct the capitalisation and the punctuation - which, I suppose, is a technological solution to a social problem.
We once had a poster here who decjded jt would be a great mjndfuck jf she replaced all jnstances of the letter i wjth the letter j. Maybe we're jdjots for bejng jmpatjent wjth her, but maybe she should have put some effort jnto bejng understood, you djg?
Nobody cares jf you mjsspell some stuff or mjss caps now and then. But dojng jt jntentjonally js kjnd of ljke postjng jn ljght yellow, or some jllegjble font.
Quote from: Cramulus on January 05, 2012, 09:41:53 PM
Quote from: holist on January 05, 2012, 09:18:06 PM
The thing is, I really do like writing like that... but I figure I'll try to be curteous and write my response in txt and before I copy it over to the PD forum I correct the capitalisation and the punctuation - which, I suppose, is a technological solution to a social problem.
We once had a poster here who decjded jt would be a great mjndfuck jf she replaced all jnstances of the letter i wjth the letter j. Maybe we're jdjots for bejng jmpatjent wjth her, but maybe she should have put some effort jnto bejng understood, you djg?
Nobody cares jf you mjsspell some stuff or mjss caps now and then. But dojng jt jntentjonally js kjnd of ljke postjng jn ljght yellow, or some jllegjble font.
It's also manufactured weird, which is inferior to the regular kind that mom used to make.
Quote from: holist on January 05, 2012, 08:29:46 PM
But for the record: let's just assume that for some obscure reason I prefer to write without capitals and full stops, punctuating sentences by paragraph breaks. This is a very simple convention to follow - and it is also a small cultural experiment of mine.
Oh, no.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2012, 11:00:55 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 05, 2012, 09:41:53 PM
Quote from: holist on January 05, 2012, 09:18:06 PM
The thing is, I really do like writing like that... but I figure I'll try to be curteous and write my response in txt and before I copy it over to the PD forum I correct the capitalisation and the punctuation - which, I suppose, is a technological solution to a social problem.
We once had a poster here who decjded jt would be a great mjndfuck jf she replaced all jnstances of the letter i wjth the letter j. Maybe we're jdjots for bejng jmpatjent wjth her, but maybe she should have put some effort jnto bejng understood, you djg?
Nobody cares jf you mjsspell some stuff or mjss caps now and then. But dojng jt jntentjonally js kjnd of ljke postjng jn ljght yellow, or some jllegjble font.
It's also manufactured weird, which is inferior to the regular kind that mom used to make.
Yeah, it falls pretty squarely into the "trying too hard" category of outlandishness. Also the "look at meeeeee" category.
Fuck all with six kids, are you breeding to sell?
Quote from: Cramulus on January 05, 2012, 09:41:53 PM
Quote from: holist on January 05, 2012, 09:18:06 PM
The thing is, I really do like writing like that... but I figure I'll try to be curteous and write my response in txt and before I copy it over to the PD forum I correct the capitalisation and the punctuation - which, I suppose, is a technological solution to a social problem.
We once had a poster here who decjded jt would be a great mjndfuck jf she replaced all jnstances of the letter i wjth the letter j. Maybe we're jdjots for bejng jmpatjent wjth her, but maybe she should have put some effort jnto bejng understood, you djg?
Nobody cares jf you mjsspell some stuff or mjss caps now and then. But dojng jt jntentjonally js kjnd of ljke postjng jn ljght yellow, or some jllegjble font.
We also had a poster who used a lot of carriage returns in his posts and, for my money, it worked and worked well. Was one of our star posters.
I miss LHX.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 06:34:42 AM
Quote from: Pope Pastor Wolf-Something-Or-Other on January 05, 2012, 08:37:21 PM
Your schtick?
It has already been done here, several times. It wasn't funny, cute, enlightening, amusing, or zany then, and it isn't now. If you wish to contribute here, don't seek attention by posting in a unique" manner, instead post stuff that is worthy of note on its own merit.
You jump to conclusions, I think. That is especially quaint in a forum devoted to and named after a holy book that is set aside from the rest by its irreverent, tiresome and highly amusing use of unconventional typography and, for E's sake, rubber stamps.
Coyote has a point, dude. If you are TRYING to be zany, and it is obvious that you are trying (or let slip that you are doing a socioLOLgical experiment), it gets pretty frustrating. Many people here prefer content over contrivance.
Just saying.
Also, "quaint." Passive aggressive gets you NOWHERE around here. And you should probably not tell people how they should act when you just got here.
Also, also, we're a bunch of horrible cunts. Look out for Iason Oubache, he's the biggest bastard on here.
Also, also, also: be glad that your cute bear ain't a panda. We don't take kindly to panda bears 'round these parts.
Quote from: Waffle Iron on January 06, 2012, 07:02:03 AM
Also, also, also: be glad that your cute bear ain't a panda. We don't take kindly to panda bears 'round these parts.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: Dude, I totally read that in a sterotypical Texan/redneck accent.
Wow.
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on January 06, 2012, 07:04:27 AM
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: Dude, I totally read that in a sterotypical Texan/redneck accent.
Wow.
I love the stereotypical redneck "we don't take kindly to" schtick.
Quote from: Waffle Iron on January 06, 2012, 07:05:34 AM
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on January 06, 2012, 07:04:27 AM
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: Dude, I totally read that in a sterotypical Texan/redneck accent.
Wow.
I love the stereotypical redneck "we don't take kindly to" schtick.
I grew up around the accent, but sadly, I never once heard that uttered in sincerity. :(
I AM AN AMERICAN AND I HAVE BEEN DEPRIVED! SOMEONE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on January 06, 2012, 07:07:05 AM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on January 06, 2012, 07:05:34 AM
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on January 06, 2012, 07:04:27 AM
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: Dude, I totally read that in a sterotypical Texan/redneck accent.
Wow.
I love the stereotypical redneck "we don't take kindly to" schtick.
I grew up around the accent, but sadly, I never once heard that uttered in sincerity. :(
I AM AN AMERICAN AND I HAVE BEEN DEPRIVED! SOMEONE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/151316/not-taking-kindly#searchterm=panda
Quote from: Waffle Iron on January 06, 2012, 07:07:26 AM
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on January 06, 2012, 07:07:05 AM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on January 06, 2012, 07:05:34 AM
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on January 06, 2012, 07:04:27 AM
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: Dude, I totally read that in a sterotypical Texan/redneck accent.
Wow.
I love the stereotypical redneck "we don't take kindly to" schtick.
I grew up around the accent, but sadly, I never once heard that uttered in sincerity. :(
I AM AN AMERICAN AND I HAVE BEEN DEPRIVED! SOMEONE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/151316/not-taking-kindly#searchterm=panda
That explains the panda bit, at least.
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on January 06, 2012, 07:08:44 AM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on January 06, 2012, 07:07:26 AM
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on January 06, 2012, 07:07:05 AM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on January 06, 2012, 07:05:34 AM
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on January 06, 2012, 07:04:27 AM
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: Dude, I totally read that in a sterotypical Texan/redneck accent.
Wow.
I love the stereotypical redneck "we don't take kindly to" schtick.
I grew up around the accent, but sadly, I never once heard that uttered in sincerity. :(
I AM AN AMERICAN AND I HAVE BEEN DEPRIVED! SOMEONE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/151316/not-taking-kindly#searchterm=panda
That explains the panda bit, at least.
That and the fact that I just plain don't like panda bears. They're evil.
Balls. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzRH3iTQPrk
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:12:12 AM
passive aggressive is already getting me somewhere, by the looks of it
Okay.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 06:42:59 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 05, 2012, 09:33:14 PM
I'm interested in what homeopathic principles for writing music are.
It was the show as a whole, rather than the music specifically, that was based, loosely, on the principles of homeopathy. You can see some very skillfully edited scenes here (the highest of the highlights, so to speak):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TB_DS7AcRI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJhPnY8iSuI
The director (who is also the homeopath) interviewed the players about their personal history extensively (two or three times, hour and a half each), taking notes all the time. Then, through repetition, exagerration and fragmentation, he helped them arrive at the essential forms of movement that could be said to be the motile essence of their early histories - and used those movements to coreograph the pieces. In the meantime, I was given his scribbled notes from the interviews, cut down to about 20 pages of flow-of-consciousness type text. Then I took, for each piece, what I saw as the essense of those words, souped them up a bit and wrote the songs. Then the band wrote the incidental music in an improvisative process, and then we spent about a week practising... so there.
Hmm, that is rather interesting. I did not watch the whole thing, but I what I did watch of it was rather fascinating. I did not see the connection with homeopathy (though, the fact that I couldn't understand the speech is certainly a major limiting factor in that regard).In any event, it was interesting, and I will attempt to make my way through the rest of it in the next couple of days. Thanks for sharing.
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on January 06, 2012, 07:12:54 AM
Balls. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzRH3iTQPrk
EVIL I TELL YA! EVIL.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:12:12 AM
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on January 06, 2012, 06:53:35 AM
Coyote has a point, dude. If you are TRYING to be zany, and it is obvious that you are trying (or let slip that you are doing a socioLOLgical experiment), it gets pretty frustrating. Many people here prefer content over contrivance.
Just saying.
the somewhat less trivial (passive aggressive is already getting me somewhere, by the looks of it) point i would hasten to make here is that sorting stuff into the 'content' and 'contrivance' heaps is a highly subjective and rather finicky endeavour
also, i think you'll find "just saying" has been banned for 2012
And the point I will hasten to make in correction of this, is that
1) Passive-aggressive will get you labelled "Sir Fuckface von Sopron VII" in a quick minute. At which point, dogpiling becomes the national passtime of all countries except for Ireland, on account of drunken shenanigans already being the national passtime, which, of course, dogpiling is considered a subcategory thereof.
2) It is not nearly as subjective nor finicky as you would presume when there is a well-established baseline and community standard already in place. You, as a newcomer here, are yet unaware of the customs and expectations, but that does not grant you reign to ignore them.
3) As a Doktor, I assure you that no authority exists that can ban "just saying". Just sayin'.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:24:57 AM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on January 06, 2012, 07:02:03 AM
Also, also, also: be glad that your cute bear ain't a panda. We don't take kindly to panda bears 'round these parts.
my cute bear takes about 0.7 seconds to punch a 200 kilo seal clear out of freezing water
Polar bears are still cute. I know. I've cuddled one.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:22:02 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 05, 2012, 09:39:40 PM
Sounds a bit like the less music he writes, the more the audience seems to enjoy it.
Sorry about that. It wasn't a dig at you, it's a homeopathy joke.
but no!
firstly, it was a dig, secondly, it was illuminating
it is nice to have an indication of the exact variety of ignorance i am encountering
'doing more with less' is actually not 'homeopathy' but 'home economics'
i grant they do sound similar
See, and here's the thing about this. Not only have you missed the point entirely, you are again, ignoring the fact that as a newcomer here, you are completely unaware of the context and history that the poster you have quoted as in conjunction with homeopathy.
Downtalking and taking personally a comment that was clearly defined as a joke that had literally nothing to do with you and everything to do with previous and unrelated experiences are also not good ways to have a pleasant stay here.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:33:06 AM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on January 06, 2012, 07:25:47 AM
Polar bears are still cute. I know. I've cuddled one.
really?
do tell!
in the wild??
In Svalbard.
(http://arcticportal.org/images/stories/images/polar-bear-svalbard-norway.jpg)
They tend to be docile creatures. But hot damn, my heart was RACING.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:39:01 AM
you've just made a surprise hit entry near the top of my envy list
do you know this guy's work: http://www.rax.is/ ?
I've seen it once, many years ago when I studied photography. I like him.
Well this noob is shitcanned as far as I am concerned.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:31:49 AM
2) it is particularly subjective and finicky in the presence of a well-established baseline and community standards - the reason being that despite all appearances, that baseline and those standards could simply be wrong, and they are by necessity subjective themselves... and somewhat finicky...
and anyway, i don't need to be granted rein, i have plenty already
in my, admittedly somewhat offbeat understanding of hospitality and conviviality, the host is at home and hence is at leisure to be somewhat indulgent towards the new guest, who may not be aware of the baseline and the standards, but certainly has his own
forbearance on those situations often yields pleasant and surprising fruit
cageyness indicates that somehow, the host doesn't really feel at home
Ah, but you have arrived at the first grand test here. First of all, your analogy is flawed on the grounds that in a medium such as this one cannot judge comfort levels on such condition because it is a false equivalence. Comfort in a social situation in a face-to-face situation is a far different beast than social comfort in an online situation, especially when it involves a semi-anonymous "stranger" coming into a group largely consisting of friends and acquaintances whose friendship and association in many cases extends beyond the scope of this forum and even into the realm of real life.
But since you ave insisted upon using the hospitality terms to define the argument, allow me to put it this way. You are a visitor in a foreign culture, in many more ways than you are aware, I am sure. In this situation, it is rather rude of a guest to shirk the customs of host, regardless of customs of the guest. For instance, if one were to visit a Japanese home, it would be very poor form indeed to enter without removing your shoes, were you aware of the custom, and even more so to continue wearing them after being asked by the host to remove them.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:39:29 AM
the very fact that several of you jump so readily on such a trifle makes me suspect that you are often bored here and are not getting the standard of conversation you had been hoping for... and there's naive me, thinking a forum populated by discordians would fare better than... whatever
and anyways, it is not meant to be weird or outlandish, and neither is it particularly novel... :) entire novels have been written without capitals, several decades ago, even... so fuck curtesy
But there have also been well-documented cases of novels that were deliberately written to be impenetrable, obfuscating, or simply antagonistic to the reader as well. James Joyce's magnum opus springs to mind immediately.
This in mind, it does not behoove you to cite a novel, or really any other written form for validation.
And a more accurate statement as to why people are eager to jump on this is that there have been so many who have passed through here over the years that have used the same or a similar gimmick that were of absolutely no account that it has, alas, become a sign of either an attention-seeker with little useful to say or a mere boorish person. While this may not apply to you, specifically, you have already, inadvertently set off the alarms, and are actually progressing through a number of different flags. First of all, as has been said, your reticence to use punctuation/capitalization. Secondly, you said something very similar to the "sociological experiment" line we have heard far too often. Third, your statements are very much treading the line of "Really Real Discordian", another archetype that we have seen often enough to be wary of.
You see, with these three things alone, you run a very real risk of being judged as inconsequential (perhaps unfairly, perhaps not) and listed as either ignore or abuse, by the majority of active posters here. Particularly the long standing members who have been here for all or nearly all of the many, many iterations of these archetypes. And if they jump on you, and your reaction is, as it has been as far as I can tell, to dig in your heels and screech, then they will simply continue to poke you until you get sick of it and leave (yes, it has happened countless times before).
You could simply ignore those people, but if you are successful in ignoring them, chances are you will miss good content or that they will ignore you in return. Both of which are not exactly desirable outcomes, because of mutual loss.
Another possibility would be to simply accept that this culture is different from what you are used, and conduct yourself according to the customs of the tribe you are among, and establish yourself as a member. In all likelihood, you ill have either built a culture-specific habit, or broken the old one. And let's be honest, this particular habit is one that you are better off without. Writing in an academic or professional will very, very rarely be acceptable sans proper syntax and grammar, and in the day and age of potential employers checking social networks and any other online activities they can connect with a person, it is never a bad idea to appear professional wherever one is.
But, even if that is not the case, and you still feel like you should write as you are now, then it is far more likely that the people will be more willing to overlook it, because you are known quantity.
To be completely blunt, there is a social circle of which you are currently on the outside, and as such, you are more likely to be judged harshly for reasons that have only tenuous at best relations to yourself at all, and really, there is no way to avoid it except to play by the rules you are given.
Let me go ahead a preempt any rebuttal you might have based on what you believe is Discordian. We have worked very much on expanding and redefining Discordia and examining and analyzing what it means and what it should mean, both on a personal level and on a larger scale. While you are, of course, free to hold whatever beliefs you wish, it is very likely that many of the posters here will have radically different views on the very same topics (a very good example of this can be found in some people's rejection of Robert Anton Wilson and even the Principia itself.)
So, I will summarize all of this in a concise way. You have inadvertently stumbled across a group of friends more than anything, and though they may share an interest in Discordianism, their opinions, thoughts, actions, and interpretations of what that even means are radically different. You are an outsider looking in, and if you are not careful, the immune system of this community, which has been inoculated a bit too much for its own good perhaps, will kick in and it will take weeks for The Mgt. to clean up the blood... again.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 08:20:13 AM
come to think of it...
Quote from: Doktor Phoxero on January 06, 2012, 07:29:40 AM
See, and here's the thing about this. Not only have you missed the point entirely, you are again, ignoring the fact that as a newcomer here, you are completely unaware of the context and history that the poster you have quoted as in conjunction with homeopathy.
i did not miss the point: homeopathy is the new irishman (or as we would say in the hereabouts, the new policeman) - cheap jokes are on because it deserves it
i realise that, and i object - both homeopathy and humour deserve better
neither did i disregard the fact you refer to - quite the contrary, i was actively doing something about it
given that the decisive majority of boards on the interwebs are saturated by dross to the point of not being worth the time and effort, what is your recommended strategy?
i'm afraid that with the context and history i have accumulated in conjunction with boards (i've been active about 18 years) the 'hang around politely for a long time until i accidentally bump into the 4 or 5 people posting interesting stuff' strategy is not an option
And there you go again, being condescending and presumptuous, I believe my last reply was sufficient in addressing this, but perhaps you are still unclear, so let me speel it out a bit more. Did you perhaps consider that this is a tired subject for us, and LMNO's comment was more of an in-joke than anything else?
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 08:20:13 AM
Quote from: Doktor Phoxero on January 06, 2012, 07:29:40 AM
Downtalking and taking personally a comment that was clearly defined as a joke that had literally nothing to do with you and everything to do with previous and unrelated experiences are also not good ways to have a pleasant stay here.
having looked in on a few topics i was under the impression that irreverent and easygoing downtalking was the order of the day here, and i was glad of it
i did not take anything personally, that would be truly foolish
i don't see how, after just having met me and reading a few sentences i wrote, you presume to be in a position to know what does and what does not constitute a pleasant stay for me
Ah, quite a good laugh there, yes.
But again, you are failing to take into account that 'pleasant' need not apply solely to your experience. You see, there are already people here, who find dealing with you to be an unpleasant experience. This has two possible outcomes. Ignoring you or streams of flame wars. If either of these constitutes what you would consider a "pleasant stay", then to be perfectly frank, piss off. We'd rather not have to suffer through yet another of those "visits" at the moment.
And since you have stated "fuck courtesy", I will say that being abrasive and arrogant in the face of people who are genuinely making an effort to accept you is beyond stupid. If you insist upon further braying, I wash my hands of it.
((For those keeping count at home (Luna and 000) , that's two in a row.))
:28 "ng here, anyway, .hu (maybe}
:24 Posts: 18 (18 per day) )Hmm}?
:22 Date Registered: Yesterday(1/5}? at 04:39:02 AM {hmm}?
1:20 AM psT how come the clock is ? 8 hours fast ? gMT ?/?
yeah? /-/i, is there a fish near?
reaLLLy ni i get a strange feeling about this HERE
i'LL try to distance myself modify L8R
Quote from: Nigel on January 05, 2012, 11:29:15 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2012, 11:00:55 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 05, 2012, 09:41:53 PM
Quote from: holist on January 05, 2012, 09:18:06 PM
The thing is, I really do like writing like that... but I figure I'll try to be curteous and write my response in txt and before I copy it over to the PD forum I correct the capitalisation and the punctuation - which, I suppose, is a technological solution to a social problem.
We once had a poster here who decjded jt would be a great mjndfuck jf she replaced all jnstances of the letter i wjth the letter j. Maybe we're jdjots for bejng jmpatjent wjth her, but maybe she should have put some effort jnto bejng understood, you djg?
Nobody cares jf you mjsspell some stuff or mjss caps now and then. But dojng jt jntentjonally js kjnd of ljke postjng jn ljght yellow, or some jllegjble font.
It's also manufactured weird, which is inferior to the regular kind that mom used to make.
Yeah, it falls pretty squarely into the "trying too hard" category of outlandishness. Also the "look at meeeeee" category.
Quote from: hirley0 on January 06, 2012, 09:15:08 AM
:28 "ng here, anyway, .hu (maybe}
:24 Posts: 18 (18 per day) )Hmm}?
:22 Date Registered: Yesterday(1/5}? at 04:39:02 AM {hmm}?
1:20 AM psT how come the clock is ? 8 hours fast ? gMT ?/?
yeah? /-/i, is there a fish near?
reaLLLy ni i get a strange feeling about this HERE
i'LL try to distance myself modify L8R
Quote from: Nigel on January 05, 2012, 11:29:15 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2012, 11:00:55 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 05, 2012, 09:41:53 PM
Quote from: holist on January 05, 2012, 09:18:06 PM
The thing is, I really do like writing like that... but I figure I'll try to be curteous and write my response in txt and before I copy it over to the PD forum I correct the capitalisation and the punctuation - which, I suppose, is a technological solution to a social problem.
We once had a poster here who decjded jt would be a great mjndfuck jf she replaced all jnstances of the letter i wjth the letter j. Maybe we're jdjots for bejng jmpatjent wjth her, but maybe she should have put some effort jnto bejng understood, you djg?
Nobody cares jf you mjsspell some stuff or mjss caps now and then. But dojng jt jntentjonally js kjnd of ljke postjng jn ljght yellow, or some jllegjble font.
It's also manufactured weird, which is inferior to the regular kind that mom used to make.
Yeah, it falls pretty squarely into the "trying too hard" category of outlandishness. Also the "look at meeeeee" category.
i guess i'z wrong the edit said 09:28:16 AM by hi 1:30
Quote from: hirley0 on January 06, 2012, 09:15:08 AM
:28 "ng here, anyway, .hu (maybe}
:24 Posts: 18 (18 per day) )Hmm}?
:22 Date Registered: Yesterday(1/5}? at 04:39:02 AM {hmm}?
1:20 AM psT how come the clock is ? 8 hours fast ? gMT ?/?
yeah? /-/i, is there a fish near?
reaLLLy ni i get a strange feeling about this HERE
i'LL try to distance myself modify L8R
Quote from: Nigel on January 05, 2012, 11:29:15 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2012, 11:00:55 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 05, 2012, 09:41:53 PM
Quote from: holist on January 05, 2012, 09:18:06 PM
The thing is, I really do like writing like that... but I figure I'll try to be curteous and write my response in txt and before I copy it over to the PD forum I correct the capitalisation and the punctuation - which, I suppose, is a technological solution to a social problem.
We once had a poster here who decjded jt would be a great mjndfuck jf she replaced all jnstances of the letter i wjth the letter j. Maybe we're jdjots for bejng jmpatjent wjth her, but maybe she should have put some effort jnto bejng understood, you djg?
Nobody cares jf you mjsspell some stuff or mjss caps now and then. But dojng jt jntentjonally js kjnd of ljke postjng jn ljght yellow, or some jllegjble font.
It's also manufactured weird, which is inferior to the regular kind that mom used to make.
Yeah, it falls pretty squarely into the "trying too hard" category of outlandishness. Also the "look at meeeeee" category.
Hirley, the timestamp got reset when Faust implemented the forum upgrade. You can reset it in your profile (if that's what you are getting at, I still have trouble parsing exactly what you say sometimes, dude.) :lol:
Quote from: Doktor Phoxero on January 06, 2012, 09:36:15 AM
Quote from: hirley0 on January 06, 2012, 09:15:08 AM
:28 "ng here, anyway, .hu (maybe}
:24 Posts: 18 (18 per day) )Hmm}?
:22 Date Registered: Yesterday(1/5}? at 04:39:02 AM {hmm}?
1:20 AM psT how come the clock is ? 8 hours fast ? gMT ?/?
yeah? /-/i, is there a fish near?
reaLLLy ni i get a strange feeling about this HERE
i'LL try to distance myself modify L8R
Quote from: Nigel on January 05, 2012, 11:29:15 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2012, 11:00:55 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 05, 2012, 09:41:53 PM
Quote from: holist on January 05, 2012, 09:18:06 PM
The thing is, I really do like writing like that... but I figure I'll try to be curteous and write my response in txt and before I copy it over to the PD forum I correct the capitalisation and the punctuation - which, I suppose, is a technological solution to a social problem.
We once had a poster here who decjded jt would be a great mjndfuck jf she replaced all jnstances of the letter i wjth the letter j. Maybe we're jdjots for bejng jmpatjent wjth her, but maybe she should have put some effort jnto bejng understood, you djg?
Nobody cares jf you mjsspell some stuff or mjss caps now and then. But dojng jt jntentjonally js kjnd of ljke postjng jn ljght yellow, or some jllegjble font.
It's also manufactured weird, which is inferior to the regular kind that mom used to make.
Yeah, it falls pretty squarely into the "trying too hard" category of outlandishness. Also the "look at meeeeee" category.
Hirley, the timestamp got reset when Faust implemented the forum upgrade. You can reset it in your profile (if that's what you are getting at, I still have trouble parsing exactly what you say sometimes, dude.) :lol:
Oh Ok when was that maybe i missed it?
its hard for me to comprehend that i
actually read 60 posts in an hour
i do wish Hello 1 well if Hu is correct /-/
forgot to add the ORange color Sorry 2:02
Quote from: hirley0 on January 06, 2012, 10:00:43 AM
Quote from: Doktor Phoxero on January 06, 2012, 09:36:15 AM
Quote from: hirley0 on January 06, 2012, 09:15:08 AM
:28 "ng here, anyway, .hu (maybe}
:24 Posts: 18 (18 per day) )Hmm}?
:22 Date Registered: Yesterday(1/5}? at 04:39:02 AM {hmm}?
1:20 AM psT how come the clock is ? 8 hours fast ? gMT ?/?
yeah? /-/i, is there a fish near?
reaLLLy ni i get a strange feeling about this HERE
i'LL try to distance myself modify L8R
Quote from: Nigel on January 05, 2012, 11:29:15 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2012, 11:00:55 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 05, 2012, 09:41:53 PM
Quote from: holist on January 05, 2012, 09:18:06 PM
The thing is, I really do like writing like that... but I figure I'll try to be curteous and write my response in txt and before I copy it over to the PD forum I correct the capitalisation and the punctuation - which, I suppose, is a technological solution to a social problem.
We once had a poster here who decjded jt would be a great mjndfuck jf she replaced all jnstances of the letter i wjth the letter j. Maybe we're jdjots for bejng jmpatjent wjth her, but maybe she should have put some effort jnto bejng understood, you djg?
Nobody cares jf you mjsspell some stuff or mjss caps now and then. But dojng jt jntentjonally js kjnd of ljke postjng jn ljght yellow, or some jllegjble font.
It's also manufactured weird, which is inferior to the regular kind that mom used to make.
Yeah, it falls pretty squarely into the "trying too hard" category of outlandishness. Also the "look at meeeeee" category.
Hirley, the timestamp got reset when Faust implemented the forum upgrade. You can reset it in your profile (if that's what you are getting at, I still have trouble parsing exactly what you say sometimes, dude.) :lol:
Oh Ok when was that maybe i missed it?
its hard for me to comprehend that i
actually read 60 posts in an hour
i do wish Hello 1 well if Hu is correct /-/
The upgrade happened just a couple days ago, so you didn't miss it by much.
Hello, I am an angry teenager. I will defy your otherwise sensible social customs and mores because you're not the boss of me. Look how radical a stance I am taking. Dontcha wish your girlfriend was noncomformist like me (dontcha).
Quote from: Cain on January 06, 2012, 10:18:01 AM
Hello, I am an angry teenager. I will defy your otherwise sensible social customs and mores because you're not the boss of me. Look how radical a stance I am taking. Dontcha wish your girlfriend was noncomformist like me (dontcha).
I totally do, Cain. ... hey, here's a crazy idea. How's about you be my girlfriend? Then it's win-freakin'-win!
Quote from: Waffle Iron on January 06, 2012, 07:25:47 AM
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:24:57 AM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on January 06, 2012, 07:02:03 AM
Also, also, also: be glad that your cute bear ain't a panda. We don't take kindly to panda bears 'round these parts.
my cute bear takes about 0.7 seconds to punch a 200 kilo seal clear out of freezing water
Polar bears are still cute. I know. I've cuddled one.
Leaving the poor animal unconscious, bleeding from every orifice and feeling filthy, traumatised and mistrustful of people with beards does not fall under the umbrella of "cuddling" where I'm from :argh!:
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on January 06, 2012, 11:29:33 AM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on January 06, 2012, 07:25:47 AM
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:24:57 AM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on January 06, 2012, 07:02:03 AM
Also, also, also: be glad that your cute bear ain't a panda. We don't take kindly to panda bears 'round these parts.
my cute bear takes about 0.7 seconds to punch a 200 kilo seal clear out of freezing water
Polar bears are still cute. I know. I've cuddled one.
Leaving the poor animal unconscious, bleeding from every orifice and feeling filthy, traumatised and mistrustful of people with beards does not fall under the umbrella of "cuddling" where I'm from :argh!:
You're from the wrong place then.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:39:29 AM
Quote from: Nigel on January 05, 2012, 11:29:15 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2012, 11:00:55 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 05, 2012, 09:41:53 PM
Quote from: holist on January 05, 2012, 09:18:06 PM
The thing is, I really do like writing like that... but I figure I'll try to be curteous and write my response in txt and before I copy it over to the PD forum I correct the capitalisation and the punctuation - which, I suppose, is a technological solution to a social problem.
We once had a poster here who decjded jt would be a great mjndfuck jf she replaced all jnstances of the letter i wjth the letter j. Maybe we're jdjots for bejng jmpatjent wjth her, but maybe she should have put some effort jnto bejng understood, you djg?
Nobody cares jf you mjsspell some stuff or mjss caps now and then. But dojng jt jntentjonally js kjnd of ljke postjng jn ljght yellow, or some jllegjble font.
It's also manufactured weird, which is inferior to the regular kind that mom used to make.
Yeah, it falls pretty squarely into the "trying too hard" category of outlandishness. Also the "look at meeeeee" category.
the very fact that several of you jump so readily on such a trifle makes me suspect that you are often bored here and are not getting the standard of conversation you had been hoping for... and there's naive me, thinking a forum populated by discordians would fare better than... whatever
Don't mind it, the board needs to feast every once in awhile. Might want to get some boots and a helmet though.
You know, this whole thread could very well be an object lesson regarding holist's style. He was told, flat out, in several different ways, that the deliberate non-use of standard written language would cause people to focus on how he was writing, rather than what he was writing; and furthermore, that the reaction would be largely hostile. Five pages later, we see that result manifesting itself.
As a socioLOLgical experiment it doesn't work, because we are fully aware of this behavior, as we told you right up front. No major discovery there. As a troll, it's weak because this board is insanely easy to troll; mainly because we seem to enjoy it.
So the next step in the process is to ask holist if he does indeed subscribe to the tenets of homeopathy.
Which brings me to my next question: Holist, do you subscribe to the tenets of homeopathy?
Quote from: Waffle Iron on January 06, 2012, 07:25:47 AM
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:24:57 AM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on January 06, 2012, 07:02:03 AM
Also, also, also: be glad that your cute bear ain't a panda. We don't take kindly to panda bears 'round these parts.
my cute bear takes about 0.7 seconds to punch a 200 kilo seal clear out of freezing water
Polar bears are still cute. I know. I've cuddled one.
Norway's national pass time. When people named Heidi are not available and you're out of churches and gasoline, at least.
Snuggling polar bears is very metal!
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:39:29 AM
the very fact that several of you jump so readily on such a trifle makes me suspect that you are often bored here and are not getting the standard of conversation you had been hoping for... and there's naive me, thinking a forum populated by discordians would fare better than... whatever
We've been doing Discordianism wrong for YEARS. Thank God you came along.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:39:29 AM
and anyways, it is not meant to be weird or outlandish, and neither is it particularly novel... :) entire novels have been written without capitals, several decades ago, even... so fuck curtesy
Okay, but remember...You said it.
Hi Holist! You've been getting a lot of advice in this thread, may I be so crass as to add one more piece to the pile? Abandon this thread! We do like talking about other things, believe me. :p
I think we've all felt a mild sense of shame at one point or another. It is fairly unavoidable. Just remember to delete the pictures.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 04:40:29 PM
three: i do want to see how this capitalisation-punctuation thing pans out
sorry
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I love it that hirley posted itt :D
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 04:48:20 PM
they are arbitrary conventions with interesting history
Cain is a very, very arbitrary person. As are many of us.
In addition, as has been repeatedly stated,
it's been done. It's "weirdness" for sissies who lack the creativity, the vision, and - yes - even the balls to go full-bore freak.
It is the Vanilla Ice of strangeness. It is the Big Bill Broonzy of weird. It's pretentious posing that is no fucking different than Prince changing his name to a symbol (which, be warned, led to him joining Scientology).
It's, well,
boring.
Like I said -- word to the wise -- if you get defensive about posting in a style that annoys people, don't be surprised when people get annoyed at you instead of your style. You can lament that the crowd here is not enlightened enough to get over it, but if you think it's an arbitrary convention, why be stubborn about it? Doing the opposite of a convention is still a form of conventionalism.
The caps thing really isn't a big deal to me, believe me. And if you really LIKE arguing about whether or not the medium impacts the message, people here will be glad to indulge you. It's really your call what you want to talk about. Just don't be surprised or disappointed when people give you negative feedback about it.
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/APPLETALKBTCHES.jpg)
Yeah, it is rather arbitrary to get in a tizzy over punctuation and capitalization. I mean, if we understand what you are intending to communicate, we should be good.
But, getting into a pointless discussion about that on either side is going to be counterproductive.
So even if you think you are right, and even if you are right, I dunno, might not be much point in going any further with it.
Just accept it as a quirk of this place,and there are many quirks as there are with any culture, internet or otherwise.
Besides, we may be Discordians, but even Discordians are still human. Well, except for Iason, but let's not go there.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 04:59:33 PM
okay but i reckon it will wear off, and, i think it is still an interesting question, why does it have this effect?
Because it's annoying as fuck.
TGRR,
Full of useful information.
Well, I just thought about it, and fuck Holist. I didn't volunteer to be a fucking guinea pig for his "experiment" (that's offensive as hell, when you think about it), and whether or not he has anything to say is irrelevant, if he chooses not to say it in an intelligible manner.
He insists that he should write in a manner that would shame a 3rd grade school child? Okay. I don't feel the need to read it.
You guys can keep humoring this fuckwit. I'm out.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:35:51 AM
Quote from: Doktor Phoxero on January 06, 2012, 07:29:40 AM
See, and here's the thing about this. Not only have you missed the point entirely, you are again, ignoring the fact that as a newcomer here, you are completely unaware of the context and history that the poster you have quoted as in conjunction with homeopathy.
Downtalking and taking personally a comment that was clearly defined as a joke that had literally nothing to do with you and everything to do with previous and unrelated experiences are also not good ways to have a pleasant stay here.
fair enough, i stand corrected
no offence meant, i am fully ignorant myself and view it as a preferable outlook to most anything
do explain, though, why the cognitive bias of a large, already entrenched group is to have preference over the cognitive bias of the newcomer?
in the light of my remarks on hospitality models, if possible
thanks
How many people have posted in this thread?
How many have commented on your punctuational deficit?
Be skeptical of anyone who speaks for a group. Let alone a "large" group, lest you find yourself making assumptions that turn out to be foundless.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:39:29 AM
Quote from: Nigel on January 05, 2012, 11:29:15 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2012, 11:00:55 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 05, 2012, 09:41:53 PM
Quote from: holist on January 05, 2012, 09:18:06 PM
The thing is, I really do like writing like that... but I figure I'll try to be curteous and write my response in txt and before I copy it over to the PD forum I correct the capitalisation and the punctuation - which, I suppose, is a technological solution to a social problem.
We once had a poster here who decjded jt would be a great mjndfuck jf she replaced all jnstances of the letter i wjth the letter j. Maybe we're jdjots for bejng jmpatjent wjth her, but maybe she should have put some effort jnto bejng understood, you djg?
Nobody cares jf you mjsspell some stuff or mjss caps now and then. But dojng jt jntentjonally js kjnd of ljke postjng jn ljght yellow, or some jllegjble font.
It's also manufactured weird, which is inferior to the regular kind that mom used to make.
Yeah, it falls pretty squarely into the "trying too hard" category of outlandishness. Also the "look at meeeeee" category.
the very fact that several of you jump so readily on such a trifle makes me suspect that you are often bored here and are not getting the standard of conversation you had been hoping for... and there's naive me, thinking a forum populated by discordians would fare better than... whatever
and anyways, it is not meant to be weird or outlandish, and neither is it particularly novel... :) entire novels have been written without capitals, several decades ago, even... so fuck curtesy
for the kind person inquiring about the kids: it is a patchwork family. I brought three boys while she brought a girl and a boy to this marriage
then, irresponsible and thrill-seeking breeders that we are, we went and had a baby - no regrets so far
That kind person was me. I have three kids, myself.
And my idle commentary about the outlandishness was just that; idle commentary, as appropriate in the idle chatter sub. Go participate in other threads if you want intellectual stimulation, there have been some good discussions lately.
Or just stay here and bicker in this thread that's all about you if you're not interested in high-quality conversation; it's up to you.
Quote from: Pope Pastor Wolf-Something-Or-Other on January 06, 2012, 08:22:02 AM
Well this noob is shitcanned as far as I am concerned.
Why? Because half of the asstard n00bs here can't refrain from playing "let's shit on the newest n00b"?
Fuck the 50-post suggestion, right? Gentle courtesy is for HOMOS.
Quote from: Nigel on January 06, 2012, 06:44:43 PM
Quote from: Pope Pastor Wolf-Something-Or-Other on January 06, 2012, 08:22:02 AM
Well this noob is shitcanned as far as I am concerned.
Why? Because half of the asstard n00bs here can't refrain from playing "let's shit on the newest n00b"?
Fuck the 50-post suggestion, right? Gentle courtesy is for HOMOS.
It's because this noob is obviously digging its heels in, and screeching, if not trolling. I'll pay attention to it if it decides to stop being "zany"
Quote from: Nigel on January 06, 2012, 06:44:43 PM
Quote from: Pope Pastor Wolf-Something-Or-Other on January 06, 2012, 08:22:02 AM
Well this noob is shitcanned as far as I am concerned.
Why? Because half of the asstard n00bs here can't refrain from playing "let's shit on the newest n00b"?
Fuck the 50-post suggestion, right? Gentle courtesy is for HOMOS.
Actually, Nigel, it was Holist who said "fuck curtusy (sic)"
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,31273.msg1133948.html#msg1133948
If it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 06, 2012, 06:51:09 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 06, 2012, 06:44:43 PM
Quote from: Pope Pastor Wolf-Something-Or-Other on January 06, 2012, 08:22:02 AM
Well this noob is shitcanned as far as I am concerned.
Why? Because half of the asstard n00bs here can't refrain from playing "let's shit on the newest n00b"?
Fuck the 50-post suggestion, right? Gentle courtesy is for HOMOS.
Actually, Nigel, it was Holist who said "fuck curtusy (sic)"
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,31273.msg1133948.html#msg1133948
If it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander.
Yes, he did say it, in response to my own completely unnecessary contribution to the snark (which I posted AFTER he said he would stop back on page 2) after how many pages of people jumping his shit?
As far as I can tell this guy is fairly interesting and has things to say, for a welcome change from the TOTSEtards. Maybe if we give him a little bit of breathing room instead of instantly jumping up, pounding our chests, and putting him on the defensive, he'll unwind and see the point of making his posts as legible as possible. Maybe not. But it seems like the post-TOTSE PD standard is "Fuck the 50 post suggestion, SCREEEEECH!"
Quote from: Nigel on January 06, 2012, 07:05:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 06, 2012, 06:51:09 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 06, 2012, 06:44:43 PM
Quote from: Pope Pastor Wolf-Something-Or-Other on January 06, 2012, 08:22:02 AM
Well this noob is shitcanned as far as I am concerned.
Why? Because half of the asstard n00bs here can't refrain from playing "let's shit on the newest n00b"?
Fuck the 50-post suggestion, right? Gentle courtesy is for HOMOS.
Actually, Nigel, it was Holist who said "fuck curtusy (sic)"
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,31273.msg1133948.html#msg1133948
If it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander.
Yes, he did say it, in response to my own completely unnecessary contribution to the snark (which I posted AFTER he said he would stop back on page 2) after how many pages of people jumping his shit?
As far as I can tell this guy is fairly interesting and has things to say, for a welcome change from the TOTSEtards. Maybe if we give him a little bit of breathing room instead of instantly jumping up, pounding our chests, and putting him on the defensive, he'll unwind and see the point of making his posts as legible as possible. Maybe not. But it seems like the post-TOTSE PD standard is "Fuck the 50 post suggestion, SCREEEEECH!"
Possibly.
But I'm not his lab rat. Or maybe I am, you know, with this reaction...Maybe I'm that one rat that bites all the other rats and foams at the fucking mouth and sprays my horribly infected semen through the bars of the cage or whatnot.
But I don't believe in treating people like test subjects without their permission, and I won't stand for it myself.So he waltzes in, a tiny bit annoying, and then announces his "cultural experiment", which - aside from the implied insult - is simply bad science, as it influences the reactions of we poor rodents, as can be seen from a half-dozen pages of bile.
Quote from: Nigel on January 06, 2012, 06:44:43 PM
Quote from: Pope Pastor Wolf-Something-Or-Other on January 06, 2012, 08:22:02 AM
Well this noob is shitcanned as far as I am concerned.
Why? Because half of the asstard n00bs here can't refrain from playing "let's shit on the newest n00b"?
Fuck the 50-post suggestion, right? Gentle courtesy is for HOMOS.
You really call this shitting? We offered advice, explained our actions rationally, and even did a bit of self introspection regarding our syntax use.
Part of the 50 post suggestion is to offer advice ("Hey, just a heads up: When you post that way, some of us think it gets in the way of any message you might have") without simply flaming them.
holist defending his use of language is fine, but it does prompt us to respond in turn. I haven't seen anything openly hostile.
Hell, we've even suggested he stop posting in this thread and move to a new one, so we can change the subject and see what kind of things he has to say.
Plus, the guy's at 44 posts by now.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 06, 2012, 07:09:12 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 06, 2012, 07:05:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 06, 2012, 06:51:09 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 06, 2012, 06:44:43 PM
Quote from: Pope Pastor Wolf-Something-Or-Other on January 06, 2012, 08:22:02 AM
Well this noob is shitcanned as far as I am concerned.
Why? Because half of the asstard n00bs here can't refrain from playing "let's shit on the newest n00b"?
Fuck the 50-post suggestion, right? Gentle courtesy is for HOMOS.
Actually, Nigel, it was Holist who said "fuck curtusy (sic)"
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,31273.msg1133948.html#msg1133948
If it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander.
Yes, he did say it, in response to my own completely unnecessary contribution to the snark (which I posted AFTER he said he would stop back on page 2) after how many pages of people jumping his shit?
As far as I can tell this guy is fairly interesting and has things to say, for a welcome change from the TOTSEtards. Maybe if we give him a little bit of breathing room instead of instantly jumping up, pounding our chests, and putting him on the defensive, he'll unwind and see the point of making his posts as legible as possible. Maybe not. But it seems like the post-TOTSE PD standard is "Fuck the 50 post suggestion, SCREEEEECH!"
Possibly.
But I'm not his lab rat. Or maybe I am, you know, with this reaction...Maybe I'm that one rat that bites all the other rats and foams at the fucking mouth and sprays my horribly infected semen through the bars of the cage or whatnot. But I don't believe in treating people like test subjects without their permission, and I won't stand for it myself.
So he waltzes in, a tiny bit annoying, and then announces his "cultural experiment", which - aside from the implied insult - is simply bad science, as it influences the reactions of we poor rodents, as can be seen from a half-dozen pages of bile.
What happened is he pushed our buttons
and we screeched
and he screeched back.
Quote from: Nigel on January 06, 2012, 07:14:40 PM
What happened is he pushed our buttons
and we screeched
and he screeched back.
So he's getting what he wanted.
I fail to see the problem, here.
Not to poke you too sharply Nigel, but saying, "we've seen this before, and it usually doesn't end well" for four pages is "shrieking" to you?
Sure, page 5 saw the first indication it was going downhill, but this has to be the most civil "dogpiling" I've ever seen.
I didn't even respond when he called me ignorant right off the bat:
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:22:02 AM
it is nice to have an indication of the exact variety of ignorance i am encountering
You've seen how bad it can get. Why are you comparing that to this?
Holist- a word of advice. Being antagonistic to roger is the last thing you want to do. I suggest you drop it immediately. Especially if you want to be taken credibly here. Your digging yourself in again.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:29:19 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 06, 2012, 07:09:12 PM
But I'm not his lab rat. Or maybe I am, you know, with this reaction...Maybe I'm that one rat that bites all the other rats and foams at the fucking mouth and sprays my horribly infected semen through the bars of the cage or whatnot. But I don't believe in treating people like test subjects without their permission, and I won't stand for it myself.
So he waltzes in, a tiny bit annoying, and then announces his "cultural experiment", which - aside from the implied insult - is simply bad science, as it influences the reactions of we poor rodents, as can be seen from a half-dozen pages of bile.
get a grip, man
i don't know about your primal fantasies and all that, but you were most definitely not a 'test subject', and i was not even using the word 'experiment' in your anally retentive scientistic sense
poor rodent indeed
giving the whole order a bad name!
Now you're just being a dick.
Maybe you should stop screeching back.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 06:59:59 PM
dear Doktor Phoxero,
first of all, let me thank you for putting me straight and for taking the time to compose your supremely elucidatory missives
after the first reading i was going to argue a little more just to ensure that i lose every last shred of dignity, but upon reading your kind lines once more, i thought the better of it... i take my hat off to you, madam
so let's not go into the details of the validity or otherwise of analogies between offline and online social experiences (though it is a deeply interesting subject), and let's not wonder how your japanese hosts may react were you to whip out a brand new pair of shoes, in original packaging, etc., and let's not dwell on the many questions that i am burning to ask about the group of friends and acquaintances you mention, let's not even agree to disagree about Joyce, one of my favourite authors, and Ulysses, certainly in the top three comic novels ever written as far as i am concerned (and a book which was largely written for the purpose of evoking hysterical twittering among highly literate gentlemen with an admittedly perverse sense of humour), let's not even clear up what i really meant when i mentioned a cultural experiment and thereby unwittingly stirred up unpleasant memories, let me not even voice my surprise that long-standing active posters still derive enjoyment value out of poking
the long and short of it is this: you are correct, mutual ignoring would not be a desirable outcome, but i would be somewhat baffled if i was to be rejected here purely on account of this
call me atrociously arrogant again, but it is a sort of acid test, for my benefit
show magnanimity, please?
you see, i have been an academic and i am a professional
i get more than my fair share of practice at socially/professionally/academically acceptable writing
ah, and i am self-employed,
and i am afraid the sort of self-censorship you are proposing ("it is in your own very best interest to act within the bounds of the rules you offered, as thez are offered"), and of which i have extensive experience (the seventies and eighties in .hu) is ultimately self-defeating
i shall endeavour to be careful
some locals it is an honour to be thrown out of, though this place shows little indication so far of being one of those
my heartfelt sympathies to the management
To be perfectly honest, what you actually mean by "cultural experiment" is not at all relevant. As I said, it is going to be interpreted in a particular, negative way, because of the past experience with similar statements.
As for the rest of it, I really have no concern for your typographic inclinations, but you should certainly be aware that others might, and have already in some cases, deemed it beyond their notice.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:29:19 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 06, 2012, 07:09:12 PM
But I'm not his lab rat. Or maybe I am, you know, with this reaction...Maybe I'm that one rat that bites all the other rats and foams at the fucking mouth and sprays my horribly infected semen through the bars of the cage or whatnot. But I don't believe in treating people like test subjects without their permission, and I won't stand for it myself.
So he waltzes in, a tiny bit annoying, and then announces his "cultural experiment", which - aside from the implied insult - is simply bad science, as it influences the reactions of we poor rodents, as can be seen from a half-dozen pages of bile.
get a grip, man
i don't know about your primal fantasies and all that, but you were most definitely not a 'test subject', and i was not even using the word 'experiment' in your anally retentive scientistic sense
poor rodent indeed
giving the whole order a bad name!
I would strongly advise against making responses like this. It comes off as antagonistic, and regardless of whether or not that is you intention, it will garner negative reactions all-around.
Quote from: Areola Shinerbock on January 06, 2012, 07:33:11 PM
Holist- a word of advice. Being antagonistic to roger is the last thing you want to do.
Naw, fuck it. He's shown what he's here for, so I'm not gonna bother with the usual shit. I'm willing to talk about the situation, but he himself is just background noise right now. Kind of like a gnat that keeps trying to fly into your ear.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:35:42 PM
thanks, folks, point taken
Not a problem. You might not believe this, but we're only trying to help.
Well, most of us. Some of us.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 06, 2012, 07:41:44 PM
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:35:42 PM
thanks, folks, point taken
Not a problem. You might not believe this, but we're only trying to help.
Well, most of us. Some of us.
I'm here to help the situation. For I am a Holy Man™, and that's what we do. Help it right into a fucking crater, with bits all over the place and the stench of win-win shoved up your nostrils like one of those Egyptian embalming hooks.
While you're still receptive to advice, I promise this is a good one:
Start a new thread about something you're interested in, and make no mention of this thread. Take the conversation where you want it to go, and ignore the people you think are poking at you.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:48:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phoxero on January 06, 2012, 07:34:58 PM
To be perfectly honest, what you actually mean by "cultural experiment" is not at all relevant. As I said, it is going to be interpreted in a particular, negative way, because of the past experience with similar statements.
for you: sound inductive reasoning based on extensive experience
for me: preposterous, unwarranted prejudice in action
what a depressingly frequent state of affairs!
and how to get around it? :lol:
Oh, it is most certainly unfair to you, but that, alas, is the problem with interacting with people, isn't it?
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 06, 2012, 07:52:35 PM
While you're still receptive to advice, I promise this is a good one:
Start a new thread about something you're interested in, and make no mention of this thread. Take the conversation where you want it to go, and ignore the people you think are poking at you.
I second this advice!
Besides, I'd like to know more about you and your interests. I'm a mother of three myself, incidentally, and also self-employed. What are you moving to the UK for? Are you from there originally? Your English is perfect.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 08:00:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phoxero on January 06, 2012, 07:55:33 PM
Oh, it is most certainly unfair to you, but that, alas, is the problem with interacting with people, isn't it?
oh no, i wouldn't call it unfair, i, as anyone else, do turn up with some regularity on both ends of that stick, and do have utter freedom in deciding what i do with being there
natural is what i'd call it
No one ever said that "natural" isn't "unfair". :lol:
Quote from: Nigel on January 06, 2012, 08:08:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 06, 2012, 07:52:35 PM
While you're still receptive to advice, I promise this is a good one:
Start a new thread about something you're interested in, and make no mention of this thread. Take the conversation where you want it to go, and ignore the people you think are poking at you.
I second this advice!
Besides, I'd like to know more about you and your interests. I'm a mother of three myself, incidentally, and also self-employed. What are you moving to the UK for? Are you from there originally? Your English is perfect.
I will third this advice as well.
I am interested in learning more about this homeopathy circus, so that would be a good topic starter.
Everything I know about Hungary, I learnt from the film Kontroll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontroll)
I don't know, Fidesz's coup has something of a slapstick comedy about it. Like the Great Dictator, set to the Benny Hill theme music.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 09:32:30 PM
but it's much harder to see the funny side from the inside
they are enacting laws which they will then be entitled to enforce coercively
one such law, passed late in the evening on the 31st of december was this:
"If, as a result of rulings of the Hungarian Constitutional Court, the European Courts of Law or other international judiciary organs, the Hungarian government should incur payment obligations the treasury is unable to finance, a contribution is to be levied. The contribution shall be payable by all citizens."
not funny, really
Rule #3: Everything is funny when it happens to someone else.
Rule #4: It's still funny when it happens to you.
Get out of there. England has its own problems, but that sounds fucked up.
The thing is, that there is no need for a law like that in Britain tells you a lot about the state of play here.
We've probably got a (somewhat) more stable economy than Hungary and (somewhat) better prospects for employment though, so on the balance, you're probably better away from it all.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 04:40:29 PM
three: i do want to see how this capitalisation-punctuation thing pans out
Meh, you seem to lack the one trait that makes lack of punctuation genuinely annoying. Which is - not being able to coherently structure or finish a thought.
You just seem to use line breaks instead of periods. Which unfortunately, is inappropriate camouflage (in some sense) around here. Good thing we look past the surface 'round here.
Hail Eris. Welcome to the Chaos.
Sticking Apart is much more fun when we do it Together, eh?
Quote from: Doktor Phoxero on January 06, 2012, 07:24:00 AM
3) As a Doktor, I assure you that no authority exists that can ban "just saying". Just sayin'.
As this site's admin, I say give me 10 minutes and a good text editor and we'll see about that, just sayin!
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 08:20:13 AMi did not miss the point: homeopathy is the new irishman (or as we would say in the hereabouts, the new policeman) - cheap jokes are on because it deserves it
i realise that, and i object - both homeopathy and humour deserve better
Are you perhaps conflating homeopathy and natural medicine?
Because to Americans, homeopathy basically means "some substance, diluted several zillion times in water and sometimes alcohol, possibly some vitamins added, then sold as alternative medicine". Which, any reasonable mind can conclude, will only work because of placebo possibly vitamins.
Over here (the Netherlands), homeopathy also includes natural medicine, such as Echinacae (sp?), Valerian root and other such plant extracts. The medicinal value of those isn't always completely scientifically proven (yet) but it's a lot less dubious than diluting a substance to the point there's no statistically significant probability that there's even a single molecule left, and then claiming "water has memory".
Just FYI before you start defending homeopathy to people with a very different interpretation of the term :)
Quote from: Doktor Phoxero on January 06, 2012, 08:50:37 AM
((For those keeping count at home (Luna and 000) , that's two in a row.))
No idea what you're referring to here??
Quote from: Triple Zero on January 08, 2012, 05:24:56 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phoxero on January 06, 2012, 07:24:00 AM
3) As a Doktor, I assure you that no authority exists that can ban "just saying". Just sayin'.
As this site's admin, I say give me 10 minutes and a good text editor and we'll see about that, just sayin!
Mr. 0, I will direct you to this comment.
Quote from: Doktor Phoxero on January 05, 2012, 08:37:56 PM
Third, anyone with the title of "Doktor" is not to be trusted under any circumstances. Phox is a particularly untrustworthy sort, and has been known to lead well-meaning newbies astray. Don't listen to her.
Quote from: Triple Zero on January 08, 2012, 05:35:52 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phoxero on January 06, 2012, 08:50:37 AM
((For those keeping count at home (Luna and 000) , that's two in a row.))
No idea what you're referring to here??
Oh, just the fact that I am being nicer to newbs than i am known for being. And at this point, we've established that Holist is a decent sort and worth talking to. So don't worry about it. :lol:
Quote from: hirley0 on January 06, 2012, 10:00:43 AM
Oh Ok when was that maybe i missed it?
its hard for me to comprehend that i
actually read 60 posts in an hour
i do wish Hello 1 well if Hu is correct /-/
forgot to add the ORange color Sorry 2:02
That's okay man, I love orange personally, so I compliment your attention to detail! ;-) Hey that makes me wonder, I'm going to be adding back some of the old features I put on the previous version of the board (SMF 1.5.something), which includes the extra fonts I added to the stylesheet to use in posts. Since you like colours so much, got any particular wishes for formatting options or perhaps a special font for you to use?
Also, yes the new polar bear holistic guy is from .hu/Hungary.
Quote from: Triple Zero on January 08, 2012, 05:33:27 PM
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 08:20:13 AMi did not miss the point: homeopathy is the new irishman (or as we would say in the hereabouts, the new policeman) - cheap jokes are on because it deserves it
i realise that, and i object - both homeopathy and humour deserve better
Are you perhaps conflating homeopathy and natural medicine?
What would "unnatural" medicine include?
Roger: I dunno, ask Nigel she seems to know a lot more about natural medicine than I do.
And Holist, cool, I'm curious.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 08, 2012, 06:09:48 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on January 08, 2012, 05:33:27 PM
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 08:20:13 AMi did not miss the point: homeopathy is the new irishman (or as we would say in the hereabouts, the new policeman) - cheap jokes are on because it deserves it
i realise that, and i object - both homeopathy and humour deserve better
Are you perhaps conflating homeopathy and natural medicine?
What would "unnatural" medicine include?
OH I'LL TELL YOU WHAT
TRUST ME.
Quote from: Nigel on January 08, 2012, 06:36:01 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 08, 2012, 06:09:48 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on January 08, 2012, 05:33:27 PM
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 08:20:13 AMi did not miss the point: homeopathy is the new irishman (or as we would say in the hereabouts, the new policeman) - cheap jokes are on because it deserves it
i realise that, and i object - both homeopathy and humour deserve better
Are you perhaps conflating homeopathy and natural medicine?
What would "unnatural" medicine include?
OH I'LL TELL YOU WHAT
TRUST ME.
Aw, shit.
I better slap another maxipad on the dog.
Hollis! Welcome! Can I call ya Hollis?
1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_ILDFp5DGA
2. We don't believe in magic here, that includes magical waters...unless you're trying to get knackered off of 000 or P3nt4gr4m's urine!
3. Choose your hell: would you like Sartre? Kafka? I personally prefer Alighieri, myself: Multi-levels, a different DJ on each deck...Ever been to Pacha in NYC? It's like that. Just stay out of the Seventh...Dubstep...murder on the ears.
4. We generally don't like to hail Eris around here...bitch shows up when she feels like it, rarely when hailed. Dog, knows, we have enough troubles with Roger without asking for more of her bullshit.
5. I call shennanigans. That pic of you is totally photoshopped. No one, I mean no one looks that good with no makeup and just a fur coat...unless...
Hunter? Is that you?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 09, 2012, 02:13:42 AM
Quote from: Nigel on January 08, 2012, 06:36:01 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 08, 2012, 06:09:48 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on January 08, 2012, 05:33:27 PM
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 08:20:13 AMi did not miss the point: homeopathy is the new irishman (or as we would say in the hereabouts, the new policeman) - cheap jokes are on because it deserves it
i realise that, and i object - both homeopathy and humour deserve better
Are you perhaps conflating homeopathy and natural medicine?
What would "unnatural" medicine include?
OH I'LL TELL YOU WHAT
TRUST ME.
Aw, shit.
I better slap another maxipad on the dog.
:lol:
Quote from: Nigel on January 10, 2012, 12:09:22 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 09, 2012, 02:13:42 AM
Quote from: Nigel on January 08, 2012, 06:36:01 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 08, 2012, 06:09:48 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on January 08, 2012, 05:33:27 PM
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 08:20:13 AMi did not miss the point: homeopathy is the new irishman (or as we would say in the hereabouts, the new policeman) - cheap jokes are on because it deserves it
i realise that, and i object - both homeopathy and humour deserve better
Are you perhaps conflating homeopathy and natural medicine?
What would "unnatural" medicine include?
OH I'LL TELL YOU WHAT
TRUST ME.
Aw, shit.
I better slap another maxipad on the dog.
:lol:
The horror you inspired in me made me bump into an unstable looking gentleman in a grocery checkout line. He in turn cut someone off in the parking lot because he was thinking about what a jerk I was. The person he cut off got pissed at him and tried to follow him out of the parking lot to give him a piece of his mind.
He, of course didn't see Bubba Joe Jim-Bob in his shiny 4X4 and ran right into him. Bubba wasn't gonna stand for that and pumped two rounds from his shotgun into the gimp that scratched his truck. The Cops showed up to take down Bubba. After riddling Bubba full of holes, all of Bubbas kin came crawling out of Morana to wreak havoc on the Tucson police.
This got the State's National Guard in on it, as well as the states local gun nut/conspiracy theorist/militia types. This war expanded to include the Army and Marines. Our weakened defense posture from internal strife gave the Chinese and some Middle-Eastern terrorists the idea that the US is falling.
They launched strikes against the US who retaliated in kind with much better nukes, and everyone died.
I hope you're happy.
I know I am.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 11, 2012, 05:47:42 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 10, 2012, 12:09:22 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 09, 2012, 02:13:42 AM
Quote from: Nigel on January 08, 2012, 06:36:01 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 08, 2012, 06:09:48 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on January 08, 2012, 05:33:27 PM
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 08:20:13 AMi did not miss the point: homeopathy is the new irishman (or as we would say in the hereabouts, the new policeman) - cheap jokes are on because it deserves it
i realise that, and i object - both homeopathy and humour deserve better
Are you perhaps conflating homeopathy and natural medicine?
What would "unnatural" medicine include?
OH I'LL TELL YOU WHAT
TRUST ME.
Aw, shit.
I better slap another maxipad on the dog.
:lol:
The horror you inspired in me made me bump into an unstable looking gentleman in a grocery checkout line. He in turn cut someone off in the parking lot because he was thinking about what a jerk I was. The person he cut off got pissed at him and tried to follow him out of the parking lot to give him a piece of his mind.
He, of course didn't see Bubba Joe Jim-Bob in his shiny 4X4 and ran right into him. Bubba wasn't gonna stand for that and pumped two rounds from his shotgun into the gimp that scratched his truck. The Cops showed up to take down Bubba. After riddling Bubba full of holes, all of Bubbas kin came crawling out of Morana to wreak havoc on the Tucson police.
This got the State's National Guard in on it, as well as the states local gun nut/conspiracy theorist/militia types. This war expanded to include the Army and Marines. Our weakened defense posture from internal strife gave the Chinese and some Middle-Eastern terrorists the idea that the US is falling.
They launched strikes against the US who retaliated in kind with much better nukes, and everyone died.
I hope you're happy.
I know I am.
Oh yay! My day is complete. :)