(http://timenerdworld.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/socialunrest.jpg?w=600&h=400&crop=1)
http://techland.time.com/2012/01/12/sopa-reddit-confirms-january-18-blackout-wikipedia-and-others-may-follow/?iid=tl-main-mostpop1
QuoteIt's on — at least partially: Reddit has announced that it will go dark for 12 hours to protest the Stop Online Piracy Act, or SOPA, and Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales has said that he hopes to coordinate with the site so that Wikipedia does the same. Will other sites join in? Should we prepare for the Great Internet Strike of 2012?
Writing that it's "not taking this action lightly," Reddit announced on Tuesday that it will black out its site on Jan. 18 for 12 hours, starting at 8 a.m. E.T. During that period, the site's content will be replaced with "a simple message about how the PIPA/SOPA legislation would shut down sites like reddit, link to resources to learn more, and suggest ways to take action." The company will also run a live video stream of that day's House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing on Internet security, intellectual property and economic growth.
OK, now this I can support. And I suspect, with big names like that taking part, people will be far more likely to sit up and pay attention.
I read an op-ed that this could be the spark that will make people pay attention. Similar to what would happen if everyone's TVs got shut off.
I think it will have more of an impact than if tv was turned off.
I know I could deal without one, because you can watch pretty much everything online. But going without favorite sites, or possibly any internet, would make me crazy.
We should also take stuff offline!
Not PD, but other people's forums. Because we're not the sort of people we preach to, eh :-)
HIS IMPERIAL MAJESTY DISAPPROVES OF SOPA
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/01/12/if-facebook-wont-stop-sopa-we-can-do-it-for-them/
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57349540-281/sopa-opponents-may-go-nuclear-and-other-2012-predictions/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Request_for_Comment:_SOPA_and_a_strike
http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/o7rdz/were_scheduling_an_antisopa_blackout_for_11812/
I think that this is a good move to raise awareness.
The only possible problem with it (and this is a small problem indeed) is that with major websites temporarily down it may drive people to instead spend the time during the blackout patronizing traditional media, which are to be detested.
This needs to be followed up with some kind of boycott to weaken the power of the mass media. Even if SOPA is defeated (and Obama said that he'd veto it, so hopefully it will be) the threat of Hollywood and the recording industry will remain; Only when these dark specters from the past are at long last sent to their final and permanent
rest damnation will the internet truly be safe.
Quote from: Triple Zero on January 13, 2012, 04:09:38 PM
We should also take stuff offline!
Not PD, but other people's forums. Because we're not the sort of people we preach to, eh :-)
I support this idea as well
I think it's imperative that the "shutdown" pages be informational for this reason. Be flat-out candid about what traditional media's slant on the issue is. I think it should be 24 hours instead of 12, also.
with wikipedia going down for a day I guess that means all internet debates will cease for the day too
Well hell, I posted in the wrong thread. Should have posted here.
Seems for now, there will not be a communication kill switch.
http://wakeup-world.com/2012/01/16/victory-for-internet-freedom-us-congress-shelves-sopa-bill/
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/204167-sopa-shelved-until-consensus-is-found
*killed fb account for shits and grins anyway*
We're almost there, folks. Pick a side.
Maybe I'm overly cynical but my sense is that it really isn't that big a deal that Wikipedia shuts down for a day. Is anyone really going to miss it that much that it will cause them to get all engaged in public policy and shit? I'm pretty skeptical.
Quote from: maphdet on January 18, 2012, 05:52:54 AM
Well hell, I posted in the wrong thread. Should have posted here.
Seems for now, there will not be a communication kill switch.
http://wakeup-world.com/2012/01/16/victory-for-internet-freedom-us-congress-shelves-sopa-bill/
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/204167-sopa-shelved-until-consensus-is-found
*killed fb account for shits and grins anyway*
The threat of Hollywood still remains.
Hollywood delenda est.
Quote from: RWHN on January 18, 2012, 02:17:28 PM
Maybe I'm overly cynical but my sense is that it really isn't that big a deal that Wikipedia shuts down for a day. Is anyone really going to miss it that much that it will cause them to get all engaged in public policy and shit? I'm pretty skeptical.
Wikipedia's blackout page is set up really really well IMO.
They've got a very tightly worded FAQ which explains why they're doing this, why you should oppose SOPA / PIPA, and information about how to get involved.
They've got a congressional representative locator... I punched in my zip code and it gave me the e-mail addy, website, twitter account, and telephone # of my representatives AND my senators. There are quick buttons to spread info on facebook, twitter, and g+. They have made it really really easy to make noise, and I think a large number of people (compared to the average) will do it.
Quote from: RWHN on January 18, 2012, 02:17:28 PM
Maybe I'm overly cynical but my sense is that it really isn't that big a deal that Wikipedia shuts down for a day. Is anyone really going to miss it that much that it will cause them to get all engaged in public policy and shit? I'm pretty skeptical.
What it has done I think, is made a conversation that a small number of people are trying to start, into a conversation a large number of people are having.
Oops, we pissed off the MPAA!
http://gizmodo.com/5876984/the-mpaa-says-blackout-protests-are-an-abuse-of-power
The statement comes down from none other than MPAA Chairman and former Senator from Connecticut Chris Dodd:
[regarding the internet blackout]
QuoteIt is an irresponsible response and a disservice to people who rely on them for information and use their services. It is also an abuse of power given the freedoms these companies enjoy in the marketplace today. It's a dangerous and troubling development when the platforms that serve as gateways to information intentionally skew the facts to incite their users in order to further their corporate interests.
:lulz:, taking down your own website in response to legislation which endangers it is an
abuse of power! They shouldn't have the freedom to do that! :lulz:
THE MPAA WILL TELL YOU WHAT TO PUT ON YOUR WEBSITE AND YOU WILL LIKE IT :lulz:
oh, sweet lord.
that is rich...
:lulz:
incidentally, has there been a significant number of people that are upset by the websites going down? (other than the MPAARIAA...)
my only data point on efficacy so far was my wife, who somehow was unaware of this legal development. (i was almost sure we had talked about it, but i guess it slipped by her) when she was going to search for something last night and was greeted with the wiki blackout page, she called me in for further explaination/opinion as she was in the process of clicking the link-o's to our reps to voice about it.
People at work are annoyed about it. We use Wikipedia a lot. Being in the UK, there's not much we can do about it either.
I considered telling them they can hit esc as the blackout comes up to get around it... but it is far more funny for them to be pissed off at America about the whole thing. As an internet based business they are also preetty pissed, although largely because it could hit profits and e-commerce than any sort of moral standpoint.
There are some of my pet sites (yes, one of my guilty pleasures is stupid pet click sites) that are doing this and it has worked informing some who had no idea about it. Some got quite upset, actually.
Just don't allow Wikimedia to run Javascript via your browser, and you can still use Wikipedia.
huh....
that's interesting. so, the more tech savvy (who are likely already aware of, and decided on the issue) can avoid any inconvenience while they still foist the message upon those less likely to be up on it.
Quote from: Cain on January 18, 2012, 03:21:57 PM
Just don't allow Wikimedia to run Javascript via your browser, and you can still use Wikipedia.
Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed in their half-assed "blackout".
Quote from: Cramulus on January 18, 2012, 02:56:22 PM
Oops, we pissed off the MPAA!
http://gizmodo.com/5876984/the-mpaa-says-blackout-protests-are-an-abuse-of-power
The statement comes down from none other than MPAA Chairman and former Senator from Connecticut Chris Dodd:
[regarding the internet blackout]
QuoteIt is an irresponsible response and a disservice to people who rely on them for information and use their services. It is also an abuse of power given the freedoms these companies enjoy in the marketplace today. It's a dangerous and troubling development when the platforms that serve as gateways to information intentionally skew the facts to incite their users in order to further their corporate interests.
:lulz:, taking down your own website in response to legislation which endangers it is an abuse of power! They shouldn't have the freedom to do that! :lulz:
THE MPAA WILL TELL YOU WHAT TO PUT ON YOUR WEBSITE AND YOU WILL LIKE IT :lulz:
Oh, that's RICH. :lol:
Quote from: Nigel on January 18, 2012, 03:56:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 18, 2012, 03:21:57 PM
Just don't allow Wikimedia to run Javascript via your browser, and you can still use Wikipedia.
Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed in their half-assed "blackout".
their intent isn't a full blackout, it's just to make sure people are aware of the issue. From their FAQ page:
Is it still possible to access Wikipedia in any way?Yes. During the blackout, Wikipedia is accessible on mobile devices and smart phones. You can also view Wikipedia normally by disabling JavaScript in your browser, as explained on this Technical FAQ page (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_SOPA_blackout/Technical_FAQ%20). Our purpose here isn't to make it completely impossible for people to read Wikipedia, and it's okay for you to circumvent the blackout. We just want to make sure you see our message.
This would all resolve itself if the pr0n sites would get on board. I bet congress would dissolve the MPAA right off the bat.
Quote from: Cramulus on January 18, 2012, 04:05:48 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 18, 2012, 03:56:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 18, 2012, 03:21:57 PM
Just don't allow Wikimedia to run Javascript via your browser, and you can still use Wikipedia.
Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed in their half-assed "blackout".
their intent isn't a full blackout, it's just to make sure people are aware of the issue. From their FAQ page:
Is it still possible to access Wikipedia in any way?
Yes. During the blackout, Wikipedia is accessible on mobile devices and smart phones. You can also view Wikipedia normally by disabling JavaScript in your browser, as explained on this Technical FAQ page (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_SOPA_blackout/Technical_FAQ%20). Our purpose here isn't to make it completely impossible for people to read Wikipedia, and it's okay for you to circumvent the blackout. We just want to make sure you see our message.
That's dandy and all, but I don't like it.
has the porn industry associations (don't know the names, but assuming they have one) made any statements on this issue?
in a quick google search, it appears that a bunch of the free pr0n streaming sites have either put up banners or landing sites to protest...
Quote from: Demolition_Squid on January 18, 2012, 03:19:54 PM
People at work are annoyed about it. We use Wikipedia a lot. Being in the UK, there's not much we can do about it either.
Petition your government to impose sanctions (and/or declare war) on the USA if SOPA passes.
Hollywood delenda est.
(http://cdn.styleforum.net/8/85/851ac22e_d61912a9_cant-tell-if-serious.jpeg)
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 18, 2012, 02:24:32 PM
Quote from: maphdet on January 18, 2012, 05:52:54 AM
Well hell, I posted in the wrong thread. Should have posted here.
Seems for now, there will not be a communication kill switch.
http://wakeup-world.com/2012/01/16/victory-for-internet-freedom-us-congress-shelves-sopa-bill/
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/204167-sopa-shelved-until-consensus-is-found
*killed fb account for shits and grins anyway*
The threat of Hollywood still remains.
Hollywood delenda est.
Yup. And that's a big giant to try to take down.
:(
Quote from: Nigel on January 18, 2012, 03:56:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 18, 2012, 03:21:57 PM
Just don't allow Wikimedia to run Javascript via your browser, and you can still use Wikipedia.
Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed in their half-assed "blackout".
Me too. Took me forever to figure out that they had blacked out wikipedia, but my scriptblocking prevented me from seeing it.
https://twitter.com/herpderpedia :lulz:
an index of people who are PISSED OFF THAT WIKIPEDIA'S DOWN
Quote from: Cramulus on January 18, 2012, 07:06:34 PM
https://twitter.com/herpderpedia :lulz:
an index of people who are PISSED OFF THAT WIKIPEDIA'S DOWN
Wow @ teh derp.
Heh. Has anyone checked out the Google fron page yet? It's mildly amusing.
Quote from: maphdet on January 18, 2012, 05:07:57 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 18, 2012, 02:24:32 PM
Quote from: maphdet on January 18, 2012, 05:52:54 AM
Well hell, I posted in the wrong thread. Should have posted here.
Seems for now, there will not be a communication kill switch.
http://wakeup-world.com/2012/01/16/victory-for-internet-freedom-us-congress-shelves-sopa-bill/
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/204167-sopa-shelved-until-consensus-is-found
*killed fb account for shits and grins anyway*
The threat of Hollywood still remains.
Hollywood delenda est.
Yup. And that's a big giant to try to take down.
:(
Small steps. I recommend that we send the word around the net and try to organize a boycott. Also, we should try to encourage people to create and distribute copyleft material to weaken the market for the entertainment industry. I've actually written a short manifesto on this topic which I will post once I get to somewhere where I can transfer things off of my memory card.
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 18, 2012, 04:47:15 PM
Quote from: Demolition_Squid on January 18, 2012, 03:19:54 PM
People at work are annoyed about it. We use Wikipedia a lot. Being in the UK, there's not much we can do about it either.
Petition your government to impose sanctions (and/or declare war) on the USA if SOPA passes.
Hollywood delenda est.
Quote from: Iptuous on January 18, 2012, 04:53:59 PM
(http://cdn.styleforum.net/8/85/851ac22e_d61912a9_cant-tell-if-serious.jpeg)
I was dead serious about the sanctions thing, (but not about the war part though).
All the half-assed blackouts (many of them by the companies that will suffer least from a day's lost revenue) makes me really appreciate the Steve Jackson Games page's "If you really want to see our site now, click here (http://www.sjgames.com/blackout/continue.html)" link.
Quote from: kingyak on January 18, 2012, 08:01:32 PM
All the half-assed blackouts (many of them by the companies that will suffer least from a day's lost revenue) makes me really appreciate the Steve Jackson Games page's "If you really want to see our site now, click here (http://www.sjgames.com/blackout/continue.html)" link.
:snerk:
okay, Steve Fancy Grabass Jackson gets a point on that one.
Quote from: kingyak on January 18, 2012, 08:01:32 PM
All the half-assed blackouts (many of them by the companies that will suffer least from a day's lost revenue) makes me really appreciate the Steve Jackson Games page's "If you really want to see our site now, click here (http://www.sjgames.com/blackout/continue.html)" link.
Whoa.
Quote from: kingyak on January 18, 2012, 08:01:32 PM
All the half-assed blackouts (many of them by the companies that will suffer least from a day's lost revenue) makes me really appreciate the Steve Jackson Games page's "If you really want to see our site now, click here (http://www.sjgames.com/blackout/continue.html)" link.
That's good. Major points.
Quote from: Cramulus on January 18, 2012, 07:06:34 PM
https://twitter.com/herpderpedia :lulz:
an index of people who are PISSED OFF THAT WIKIPEDIA'S DOWN
This is awesome, and the funniest part is how many of them are college students who apparently were planning on using Wikipedia as a source, AND YET are also apparently unable to read the splash page, are confused about why it's down and how long it will be down for.
FUTURE OF AMERICA!
Quote from: Cramulus on January 18, 2012, 08:03:52 PM
Quote from: kingyak on January 18, 2012, 08:01:32 PM
All the half-assed blackouts (many of them by the companies that will suffer least from a day's lost revenue) makes me really appreciate the Steve Jackson Games page's "If you really want to see our site now, click here (http://www.sjgames.com/blackout/continue.html)" link.
:snerk:
okay, Steve Fancy Grabass Jackson gets a point on that one.
Also, he's got sexxxxy leather pants!
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/195842_18575917488_529202488_40401_4238_n.jpg)
The Oatmeal (http://theoatmeal.com/sopa) has a nice .gif on its blackout page.
GUYS GUYS GUYS GUYS GUYS
I got it! Let's completely restructure the way we communicate so that a few businesses don't have to adapt their business strategies to new technology.
Imagine a world where video rental stores, newspapers, and CDs are just as profitable as they were in the 90s, forever! Everybody wins!
Quote
Small steps. I recommend that we send the word around the net and try to organize a boycott. Also, we should try to encourage people to create and distribute copyleft material to weaken the market for the entertainment industry. I've actually written a short manifesto on this topic which I will post once I get to somewhere where I can transfer things off of my memory card.
In light of recent political developments it has become clear that Hollywood and the music industry have become a threat to our freedom whose continued existence can no longer be safely permitted.
How do I propose that this threat be eliminated? By collapsing the market for their services through the large scale, widespread production and distribution of Kopyleft ('kopyleft'- delibrately left uncopyrighted/in the public domain by the creator of the work) materials (in an easily redistributable format whenever possile). Obviously, I cannot accomplish this by myself, and so I am calling upon all of you to write, record, and freely distribute your own songs and films.
I understand that many of you will state that you are already doing this, throughyoutube, and that is an admirable start, but sadly this is no longer sufficient and is, furthermore, in danger of ceasing to remain an option should bills such as SOPA, PIPA, or others which may arise as their spiritual successors be passed (and be warned that even if the immediate threat is shot down the greater threat from the RIAA and MPAA will remain). While you should continue to post videos to YouTube and songs to music sharing sites you should also make an effort to distribute them through mediums which are more easily copied and redistributed as we as more secure against tampering and government intrusion. Copy your songs and videos to a DVD or flash drive and have tour friends pass it around between them and copy the content to their own drives, to be further copied and distributed to others in their lives whom you may not know personally.
You can also help more directly by boycotting the latest movies and by not buying firsthand CDs or DVDs or downloadable music.
Do not, however, I repeat DO NOT destroy any mainstream media you already posess. While powerful as a symbolic gesture, doing so would open the possibility of you purchasing new copies of the destroyed media if you have a change of heart, which is directly counter to what we want to happen; Furthermore, any media which you desire to get rid of anyway should be resold or given away to help prevent firsthand sales.
Please help spread this message. Explain it to your friends and family and/or copy it to other forums. Spread the word. To preserve our freedom, Hollywood (and the music industry) must be destroyed.
Quote from: Nigel on January 18, 2012, 08:10:17 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 18, 2012, 07:06:34 PM
https://twitter.com/herpderpedia :lulz:
an index of people who are PISSED OFF THAT WIKIPEDIA'S DOWN
This is awesome, and the funniest part is how many of them are college students who apparently were planning on using Wikipedia as a source, AND YET are also apparently unable to read the splash page, are confused about why it's down and how long it will be down for.
FUTURE OF AMERICA!
I don't know what they're worried about. Conservapedia is still up and kicking
:lulz:
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 18, 2012, 07:46:07 PM
I was dead serious about the sanctions thing, (but not about the war part though).
Yes. Terribly useful advice for people living in a country which is renowned internally and internationally for kowtowing to US interests and having a government that panders to corporate conglomerate interests. "Hey Cameron, go totally against the last 50 years of British history and the last 200 years of your own party's ideology and do this thing for us, will ya?"
:roll:
I'd rather spend my time jerking off. Actually, I did spend my time jerking off. It took roughly the same length of time it would to write and and email my objections, but had a vastly more satisfying outcome.
Oh yeah, and in the meantime, our government just cancelled a
public inquiry into torture for a bunch of highly dubious reasons. So we might just be a little busy worrying about shit that matters over here more than being able to pirate the latest episode of
30 Rock.
But cain.... Hollywood delenda est!!!!!!
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on January 18, 2012, 11:46:32 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 18, 2012, 08:10:17 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 18, 2012, 07:06:34 PM
https://twitter.com/herpderpedia :lulz:
an index of people who are PISSED OFF THAT WIKIPEDIA'S DOWN
This is awesome, and the funniest part is how many of them are college students who apparently were planning on using Wikipedia as a source, AND YET are also apparently unable to read the splash page, are confused about why it's down and how long it will be down for.
FUTURE OF AMERICA!
I don't know what they're worried about. Conservapedia is still up and kicking
:lulz:
:horrormirth: :horrormirth: :horrormirth:
Quote from: Billy the Twid on January 19, 2012, 01:50:35 AM
But cain.... Hollywood delenda est!!!!!!
Oh come on Twid. You know better than that.
It is "Hollywoodia delenda sunt."
Hollywoodia being a collective second declension neuter plural word (always plural), first coined by Cicero circa 64 BCE in his treatise
De Domo Cinemae, in which he discussed in great detail the scandalous nature of the film industry, and the corruption found amongst the higher ups. He was particularly critical of George Clooney, and famously said that he is a
quadrantariam Clytaemestram. That is, of course, a rather strong statement that he would later reuse in his defense of M. Caelius Rufus to attack the infamous Clodia.
Quote from: Doktor M. Phox0 on January 19, 2012, 05:57:52 AM
Quote from: Billy the Twid on January 19, 2012, 01:50:35 AM
But cain.... Hollywood delenda est!!!!!!
Oh come on Twid. You know better than that.
It is "Hollywoodia delenda sunt."
Hollywoodia being a collective second declension neuter plural word (always plural), first coined by Cicero circa 64 BCE in his treatise De Domo Cinemae, in which he discussed in great detail the scandalous nature of the film industry, and the corruption found amongst the higher ups. He was particularly critical of George Clooney, and famously said that he is a quadrantariam Clytaemestram. That is, of course, a rather strong statement that he would later reuse in his defense of M. Caelius Rufus to attack the infamous Clodia.
:lulz:
IT WAS SCIPIO NOT CICERO!!!
:lulz:
Quote from: Iptuous on January 18, 2012, 03:26:12 PM
huh....
that's interesting. so, the more tech savvy (who are likely already aware of, and decided on the issue) can avoid any inconvenience while they still foist the message upon those less likely to be up on it.
"The more tech savvy" can do whatever the fuck they want on the Internet every day because code is fucking magic.
It has the additional benefit of teaching the masses that they can enable and disable javascript on a per-website basis. And that a webpage is actually something you can have control *over* because it's *your* computer that decides how to display it, not Wikipedia's.
Quote from: Nigel on January 18, 2012, 03:56:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 18, 2012, 03:21:57 PM
Just don't allow Wikimedia to run Javascript via your browser, and you can still use Wikipedia.
Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed in their half-assed "blackout".
Whaaaat? There's just no pleasing you ever, is there? How the fuck is this a "half-assed" blackout? Because you can circumvent it by disabling javascript? What does it matter?
Imagine it wasn't JS, they just served the black page, no content. What would you do? You'd run off to Google Cache, then Archive.org, then try one of the various mirrors of Wikipedia (about.com) that are all over the Internet. I have a year-old text-only local copy on my external HD, even. Figure it's a good thing to have in case the whole Internet actually blacks out somehow. (English/German/Dutch, about 10 gigabytes together, without the pics).
So the content would be available anyway. I think a bigger reason actually is that there's hundreds of volunteers working on Wikipedia, fixing spellings, updating info, etc. And if they'd just block WP's content, those people couldn't do their thing, while everybody else just runs off to the nearest WP cache or mirror. It's also some online communities with the user pages as some sort of forum.
I really don't see how this would have been more effective somehow if they had blocked out all WP's content with no easy JS disabling trick to circumvent it.
http://maddox.xmission.com/
Maddox, of the best page in the universe. Remember this dude? Well he's got something to say about SOPA:
(http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/pass_sopa3.gif)
Because that's exactly what we need to wake up from this slumbering, do-nothing, "occupy everything," stagnant, non-action slump we Americans are in.
Quote from: snopes"Protest schemes that don't cost the participants any inconvenience, hardship or money remain the most popular, despite their ineffectiveness."
We're a country where people think that...
- Boycotting gas for a day makes a difference. It doesn't. Delaying when you buy gas by a day only broadcasts your intentions to oil speculators so they can profit. And the oil still gets purchased a day before or after anyway.
- Painstakingly recycling every single shred of garbage in your home makes a difference. It doesn't. Even if you, your neighbors, and everyone you've ever met recycled everything and reduced your waste output to zero, it wouldn't even make an observable impact on overall waste production in the world. Household waste and garden residue account for less than 3% of all waste produced in the US. That's less than the average statistical margin of error, and most people don't even come close to producing zero waste.
- Changing your profile picture on Facebook will get people to: A) stop abusing kids B) stop molesting kids C) stop killing kids and D) do anything.
- Signing an online petition, or changing the front page of your website to protest SOPA will fix anything.
SOPA is the "Stop Online Piracy Act." It's a shitty piece of legislation put together by puppetmaster lobbyists and politician puppets who don't know IP addresses from their assholes. My problem with this huge online protest against SOPA, and the reason I rarely take part in such protests, is because it doesn't address any problems, only the symptom. The problem isn't this shitty bill, it's the people who sponsored it. So we protest this bill today, bang enough pots and pans to shame a few backers into not letting this bill pass, then what? Those same dipshits who wrote this legislation still have jobs. They're going to try again, and again, and again until some mutation of this legislation passes. They'll sneak it into an appropriation bill while nobody's looking during recess, because there's too much lobbyist money at stake for them not to. We defeat SOPA today, only to face it again tomorrow. It's like trying to stop a cold by blowing your nose. It's time we go after the virus.
There have been many bills attempted (and some passed) like SOPA before it. There's the DMCA act of 1998, PRO-IP Act of 2008, the 2011 Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, and now the PROTECT IP Act of 2012. Think this victory means anything? A new bill gets introduced every year or two like clockwork. Check back in a few years, and there'll be another SOPA or Protect IP Act being squeezed down the lower intestinal tracts of congress. And then what? We black out our websites again like a merry band of idiots?
Raising awareness is a great way of feeling good about yourself without actually doing anything. Be honest with yourself:
How much do you care about SOPA?Would you be willing to:
- Take time off work to go down to Washington DC?
- Boycott companies that supported it?
- Knock on this dickhead's door and ask him why he introduced such shitty legislation?
(http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/lamar_smith.jpg)
- Make sure none of these losers get elected ever again?
Harry Reid (D-NV)
Howard Berman (D-CA)
Marsha Blackburn (R-TN)
Mary Bono Mack (R-CA)
Steve Chabot (R-OH)
John Conyers (D-MI)
Ted Deutch (D-FL)
Elton Gallegly (R-CA)
Bob Goodlatte (R-VA)
Timothy Griffin (R-AR)
Dennis A. Ross (R-FL)
Adam Schiff (D-CA)
Lee Terry (R-NE)
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Because until or unless you do, all the loud clamoring isn't going to change shit. If you think it's too severe a punishment to fire these jackasses over this bill, then consider the fact that politicians who supported this piece of legislation either:
1. Supported it knowing its full implications, despite the fact that it would introduce security risks, hurt the economy, innovation and jobs and would lead to censorship.
2. Or that they supported the bill not knowing the full implications of this legislation, which means that they're ignorant, and they shouldn't have their jobs anyway.
As of this writing, enough of you whined and got your way. Great, you stopped SOPA.
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It needs to get worse before it gets better. We need a really shitty piece of legislation like SOPA in this country to be the spark that ignites the lazy, idle tinders of protest. It's not uncommon or even controversial to say that Washington is corrupt. It doesn't cause anyone to bat an eye when you say it in public, with Republicans, Democrats or "other." That's a problem. We need SOPA to wake the sleeping giant in this country. It could have been our generation's Rodney King verdict. Instead of blacking out our websites, what we need to do is dismantle the system that created this bullshit. Enough is enough.
Instead of changing your Facebook icon to an anti-SOPA image for a day or two, here's something you can do that might make a real difference: boycott the companies that supported this legislation. There are too many to boycott all of them effectively, so I propose we pick two or three, hit them, and hit them hard. Punish them for putting their interests above ours. Hitting them in the wallet should send a message. I've highlighted the most difficult ones to boycott in red. The companies with the biggest return for our boycott are in yellow. The more we inconvenience ourselves, the more impact the boycott will have:
1-800 Contacts, Inc. - 801-924-9800 (contact)
1-800-PetMeds - 954-979-5995 (contact)
3M - 1-888-364-3577 (contact)
ABC (contact)
ABRO Industries, Inc. (automotive supplies) - (574) 232-8289 (contact)
Acushnet Company (Titleist and Footjoy golf) - (800)225-8500 (contact)
Adidas America - (800) 448-1796 (contact)
AstraZeneca plc - 1-800-236-9933 (contact)
Autodesk, Inc. - 415-507-5000 (contact)
Beachbody, LLC - 310-883-9000 (P90X, Insanity Videos) (contact)
Bose Coporation - (508) 879-7330 (contact)
Burberry - 800 284 8480 (contact)
Business Software Alliance Members:
Adobe - 408-536-6000 (contact)
Apple - 408.996.1010 Tim Cook, CEO (contact)
Autodesk - See individual listing.
AVEVA - Houston Office: 713-977-1225 (contact)
AVG - 978-319-4460 (contact)
Bentley Systems - 1-800-236-8539 (contact)
Cadence Design Systems - 408-943-1234 (contact)
CNC Software Mastercam - 800-228-2877 (contact)
Compuware - 313-227-7300 (contact)
Corel - 613-728-0826 (contact)
Dassault Systemes SolidWorks Corporation - France +33 1 61 62 61 62 (contact)
Dell - 512-338-4400 (contact)
Intel - 408-765-8080 (contact)
Intuit - 650-944-6000 (contact)
Mastercard (contact)
McAfee - 408-988-3832 (contact)
Microsoft - 425-882-8080 (contact)
Minitab - 814-238-3280 (contact)
Progress Software - 781-280-4000 (contact)
PTC - 781-370-5000 (contact)
Quark - 303-894-8888 (contact)
Quest - 800-306-9329 (contact)
Siemens PLM Software, Inc. - 800-498-5351 (contact)
Sybase - 1-800-792-2735 (contact)
Symantec - 650-527-8000 (contact)
TechSmith - 517-381-2300 (contact)
The MathWorks - 508-647-7000 (contact)
Callaway Golf Company - 800-588-9836 (contact)
Caterpillar Inc. - 309-675-1000 (contact)
CBS Corporation - 1-212-975-4321 (contact)
Chanel USA - 1.800.550.0005 (contact)
Coach - 1-800-444-3611 (contact)
Columbia Sportswear Company - (800) 622-6953 (contact)
Comcast Corporation - 215-286-1700 (contact)
Coty Inc. - 212-479-4300 (contact)
CVS Caremark - 401-765-1500 (contact)
Dolby Laboratories, Inc. - 415-558-0200 (contact)
Dolce & Gabbana USA, Inc. (contact)
Electronic Arts, Inc. - (650) 628-1500 (they open at 8am PT)
ESPN (contact)
Fender Musical Instrument Company - 480.596.9690 (contact)
Ford Motor Company - 800-392-3673 (contact)
Gibson Guitar Corp. - 1-800-444-2766 (contact)
Harley-Davidson Motor Company - 1-800-258-2464 (contact)
Johnson & Johnson - (732) 524-0400 (contact)
Juicy Couture, Inc - 1-888-908-1160 (contact)
Lacoste USA - 1-800-452-2678 (contact)
Leatherman Tool Group, Inc. - (800) 847-8665 (contact)
Lexmark International, Inc. - 1-859-232-2000 (contact)
Liz Claiborne, Inc - (212) 354-4900 (contact)
L'Oreal USA - 1-212-818-1500 (contact)
Lucky Brand Jeans - 1-866-975-5825 (contact)
Marvel (contact)
Major League Baseball - 212-485-3444 (contact)
Marmot - (707) 544-4590 (contact)
Monster Cable Products, Inc. - 415 840-2000 (contact)
National Basketball Association (NBA) (contact)
National Football League (NFL) (contact)
NBCUniversal - 212-664-4444 (contact)
Nervous Tattoo Inc., dba Ed Hardy - 323-785-4460 (contact)
New Balance Athletic Shoe, Inc. - (636) 326-1024 (contact)
New Era Cap Co Inc - 1-877-632-5950 (contact)
NHL Enterprises, L.P. - 212-789-2000 (contact)
Nike, Inc. - 1-503-671-6453 (contact)
Oakley, Inc. - (800) 431-1439 (contact)
Peavey Electronics Corporation - 601-483-5365 (contact)
Perry Ellis International - 1-800-994-0073 (contact)
Petzl America - 801-926-1310 (contact)
Pfizer Inc. - 1-212-733-2323 (contact)
PGA of America - (561) 624-8400 (contact)
Philip Morris International - 804-274-2000 or 800-343-0975 (contact)
PING - 1.800.474.6434 (contact)
Ralph Lauren Corporation - 888-475-7674 (contact)
Red Wing Shoe Company - 1-800-733-9464 (contact)
Reebok International Ltd. - 781-401-5000 (contact)
Revlon - 1-800-473-8566 (contact)
Rite Aid - Home Office: (717) 761-2633 (contact)
Rolex Watch USA Inc. - 665 5th Ave, New York, NY10022 - Tel: (212) 758-7700 - Fax: (212) 223-7443
Rosetta Stone Inc. - 1.800.280.8172? (contact)
Shure Incorporated - (847) 600-2000 (contact)
Sony Electronics Inc. (try 1-800-222-7669) (contact)
Sony Music Entertainment - (212) 833-8000 (contact)
Sony Pictures Entertainment - 310-244-4000 (contact)
Spyder Active Sports, Inc - 303-544-4000 (contact)
Taylor Guitars - 619-258-1207 (contact)
Taylor Made Golf Company, Inc. - 1.866.530.8624 (contact)
The Dow Chemical Company - 800-258-2436 (contact)
The Estee Lauder Companies - 877-311-3883 (contact)
The Timberland Company - 603-772-9500 (contact)
The Walt Disney Company - 818-560-1000 (contact)
Tiffany & Co. - 1-800-843-3269 (contact)
Time Warner Inc. - 212.484.8000 (contact)
Toshiba America Business Solutions, Inc. - Corporate Offices (949) 583-3000 (contact)
True Religion Jeans (contact)
UFC - Ultimate Fighting Championship - (702) 221-4780 (contact)
Visa (contact)
Viacom - (212) 258-6000 (contact)
Wal-Mart - 479-273-4000 (contact)
Warner Music Group - (212) 275-2000 (contact)
World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc. 203-352-8600 (see bottom of their link for corporate) (contact)
Xerox Corporation - 1-800-275-9376 (contact)
Zippo Manufacturing Company - 888.442.1932 (contact)
***Note: if there are any inaccuracies on this list (companies that don't support SOPA that were included, or companies that weren't included, email me).
The companies in red aren't impossible to boycott,
(*copy and paster's note: I didn't color code the list -Cram) just a lot more difficult because of their size. For example, you'd probably have to spend an hour of research every week just to make sure you weren't supporting a Viacom property if you chose to boycott them, and a boycott fewer than a few million strong probably won't matter to a company as large as Viacom. The companies in yellow stand a chance of getting some significant fallout from a boycott. There are a number of publishers on this list, including my own publisher. If the consensus I get from readers is that we should boycott publishers, I'll support the boycott even though it hurts me. However, publishing companies traditionally haven't gone after piracy as blindly and bone-headedly as the MPAA and RIAA, so there are more deserving targets.
Which companies do you think deserve the boycott for SOPA? How would you propose we solve the problem that doesn't involve changing your Facebook profile picture? Email me. I'll update this site with a list. Keep it to the list of supporters. Updates soon.
Saying protesting SOPA is stupid because there are worse things to protest is Dawkins Fallacy. I agree that engagement should be significantly better in protesting all the shitty fucking things that happen, but putting some effort into just one of them is still better than nothing.
I called my congressional representatives and senators yesterday. And the thing which prompted me to actually do it was a friend's post on FB about slacktivism. Lots of people are going to change their FB avatar, post some status updates about SOPA, make a show of "support", but this micro-activism is invisible to the people calling the shots. It helps create a RAH RAH environment, but that's still a somewhat shallow way of protesting the law. So I think Maddox has a good message.
Quote from: Cramulus on January 19, 2012, 03:17:11 PM
I called my congressional representatives and senators yesterday. And the thing which prompted me to actually do it was a friend's post on FB about slacktivism. Lots of people are going to change their FB avatar, post some status updates about SOPA, make a show of "support", but this micro-activism is invisible to the people calling the shots. It helps create a RAH RAH environment, but that's still a somewhat shallow way of protesting the law. So I think Maddox has a good message.
I agree, he does. The majority of people who "protest" these bills probably tweeted some shit and then changed their profile photos. It's super convenient because you can look like you did something and NOT ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING. I don't disagree that these are pointless tactics, but condemning those who did something (and this isn't just Maddox (who I'm surprised is still active)) about SOPA and not about any of the other fuck-us-over-regularly bills that go through Congress is just saying that something isn't good because it isn't good
enough.
well said
Maddox makes some good points, but I still blow my nose when I have a cold because I don't like snot running into my mouth. Also, his comment about how people need to be inconvenienced in order to take action seems blithely unaware that for those (admittedly, way too few) sites that truly shut down yesterday the point was, to, um, inconvenience people into taking action.* Either that, or he's just being (counterproductively) contrarian because that's his schtick.
I am all for the boycott, though.
*Granted it would have been more effective if more sites had really shut down (even Wikipedia could still be accessed if you bothered to look for a way, in my understanding). A true Google shut down, for instance, would have been huge, since so many people rely on things like gmail and google docs.
My daughter came and told me she couldn't do the research for her penguin paper yesterday because there was something wrong with Wikipedia. So I had to sit her down and explain what was going on and why this was important, and especially why this was important enough for Wikipedia to go down. And now she has to do her penguin research tonight and over the weekend.
I would like to think that there were other parents out there that were forced into the same conversation, whether they knew about SOPA before the blackout or not.
And just for the record, I was bitching about Slactivism before it was cool:
http://goatheadgumbo.blogspot.com/2011/03/giving-green-on-fridays-will-help.html (http://goatheadgumbo.blogspot.com/2011/03/giving-green-on-fridays-will-help.html)
I even had a Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/SlactivismDaily (https://twitter.com/SlactivismDaily)
Also, draconian piracy laws: http://goatheadgumbo.blogspot.com/2011/01/file-sharing-terrorism.html (http://goatheadgumbo.blogspot.com/2011/01/file-sharing-terrorism.html)
So apparently
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In more internet censorship based news, it turns out the authorities have shut down MegaUpload and arrested the owners.
http://techland.time.com/2012/01/19/feds-shut-down-megaupload-com-file-sharing-website/
Quote from: Rumckle on January 20, 2012, 01:42:33 AM
In more internet censorship based news, it turns out the authorities have shut down MegaUpload and arrested the owners.
http://techland.time.com/2012/01/19/feds-shut-down-megaupload-com-file-sharing-website/
As a response to that, Anonymous has shut down the RIAA, MPAA, and a number of other sites. http://torrentfreak.com/anonymous-retaliates-for-megaupload-shutdown-120120/
Quote from: Epimetheus on January 20, 2012, 01:16:41 AM
So apparently
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This is pretty much the only thing that matters, IMO.
It's not like we're going to have any kind of reform or see the US government topple; not if people are standing in the streets, and not if Wikipedia goes dark.
But getting the stupid fucks who actually make these decision to realize our best interests are their best interests is kind of amazing. How often does that happen? Hell, that's probably no even happening now. But it's pretty damned close, eh?
None of those assholes changed their minds about a god damned thing when students were getting maced by that dickhead from CA for no good fucking reason.
5 AKBAL i c PD is back. though intermittent? My Sympothy: 10:02 19th Jan
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on January 20, 2012, 02:50:34 AM
Quote from: Rumckle on January 20, 2012, 01:42:33 AM
In more internet censorship based news, it turns out the authorities have shut down MegaUpload and arrested the owners.
http://techland.time.com/2012/01/19/feds-shut-down-megaupload-com-file-sharing-website/
As a response to that, Anonymous has shut down the RIAA, MPAA, and a number of other sites. http://torrentfreak.com/anonymous-retaliates-for-megaupload-shutdown-120120/
For the record Wikipedia actually gave instruction on how to circumvent the blackout; if you read their description on what SOPA was, it said explicitly that they wanted to send ther messae not inconvenience anyone.
Quote from: Placid Dingo on January 20, 2012, 06:20:21 AM
For the record Wikipedia actually gave instruction on how to circumvent the blackout; if you read their description on what SOPA was, it said explicitly that they wanted to send ther messae not inconvenience anyone.
The way they said it, they only put in several ways of circumventing it because of people on their boards being against shutting it down entirely.
Quote? I can't find the explanation I read but the wording was pretty clear about the role of the blackout was just to give the message, an not inconvenience people, follow by instructions on how to get past it.
Quote from: Placid Dingo on January 20, 2012, 06:41:26 AM
Quote? I can't find the explanation I read but the wording was pretty clear about the role of the blackout was just to give the message, an not inconvenience people, follow by instructions on how to get past it.
:evilmad:<-- at wikipedia for making the page hard to find, unless they took it down, in which case :argh!:
It was on their page about how to circumvent their blackout, and how after a lot of discussion there was enough people who didn't want it down entirely that they allowed it to be bypassed. I can't remember exactly how it was said, because I only read it once.
6 KAN TODAY BEFORE 1 maybe 12:23:22
Quote from: Placid Dingo on January 20, 2012, 06:20:21 AM
For the record Wikipedia actually gave instruction on how to circumvent the blackout; if you read their description on what SOPA was, it said explicitly that they wanted to send ther messae not inconvenience anyone.
info was ITT on page 2~!
Quote from: Cramulus on January 18, 2012, 04:05:48 PM
Is it still possible to access Wikipedia in any way?
Yes. During the blackout, Wikipedia is accessible on mobile devices and smart phones. You can also view Wikipedia normally by disabling JavaScript in your browser, as explained on this Technical FAQ page (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_SOPA_blackout/Technical_FAQ%20). Our purpose here isn't to make it completely impossible for people to read Wikipedia, and it's okay for you to circumvent the blackout. We just want to make sure you see our message.
Anon is still rolling. They DOS'd the DOJ website, then the Universal Music group, then the MPAA website. Copyright dot gov, FBI dot gov, BMI.com, Chris Dodd's personal website, The white house website is coming up.
http://www.neowin.net/news/anonymous-takes-down-doj-website-in-response-to-megaupload-news
at the very bottom of that article, they list the $50m worth of swag they confiscated from megaupload's owner:
Quote2010 Maserati GranCabrio, VIN ZAMKM45B000051328, License Plate No. "M-FB 212" or "DH-GC 470", registered to FINN BATATO;
2009 Mercedes-Benz E500 Coupe, VIN WDD20737225019582, License Plate No. "FEG690";
2005 Mercedes-Benz CLK DTM, VIN WDB2093422F165517, License Plate No. "GOOD";
2004 Mercedes-Benz CLK DTM AMG 5.5L Kompressor, VIN WDB2093422F166073, License Plate No. "EVIL";
2010 Mercedes-Benz S65 AMG L, VIN WDD2211792A324354, License Plate No. "CEO";
2008 Rolls-Royce Phantom Drop Head Coupe, VIN SCA2D68096UH07049; License Plate No. "GOD";
2010 Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG, VIN WDD2120772A103834, License Plate No. "STONED";
2010 Mini Cooper S Coupe, VIN WMWZG32000TZ03651, License Plate No. "V";
2010 Mercedes-Benz ML63 AMG, VIN WDC1641772A608055, License Plate No. "GUILTY";
2007 Mercedes-Benz CL65 AMG, VIN WDD2163792A025130, License Plate No. "KIMCOM";
2009 Mercedes-Benz ML63 AMG, VIN WDC1641772A542449, License Plate No. "MAFIA";
2010 Toyota Vellfire, VIN 7AT0H65MX11041670, License Plate Nos. "WOW" or "7";
2011 Mercedes-Benz G55 AMG, VIN WDB4632702X193395, License Plate Nos. "POLICE" or "GDS672";
2011 Toyota Hilux, VIN MR0FZ29G001599926, License Plate No. "FSN455";
Harley Davidson Motorcycle, VIN 1HD1HPH3XBC803936, License Plate No. "36YED";
2010 Mercedes-Benz CL63 AMG, VIN WDD2163742A026653, License Plate No. "HACKER";
2005 Mercedes-Benz A170, VIN WDD1690322J184595, License Plate No. "FUR252";
2005 Mercedes-Benz ML500, VIN WDC1641752A026107, License Plate No. DFF816;
Fiberglass sculpture, imported from the United Kingdom with Entry No. 83023712;
1957 Cadillac El Dorado, VIN 5770137596;
2010 Sea-Doo GTX Jet Ski, VIN YDV03103E010;
1959 Cadillac Series 62 Convertible, VIN 59F115669;
Von Dutch Kustom Motor Bike, VIN 1H9S14955BB451257;
2006 Mercedes-Benz CLK DTM, VIN WDB2094421T067269;
2010 Mini Cooper S Coupe, VIN WMWZG32000TZ03648 License Plate No. "T";
1989 Lamborghini LM002, VIN ZA9LU45AXKLA12158, License Plate No. "FRP358"
2011 Mercedes-Benz ML63, VIN 4JGBB7HB0BA666219;
Samsung 820DXN 82" LCD TV;
Samsung 820DXN 82" LCD TV;
Samsung 820DXN 82" LCD TV;
Devon Works LLC, Tread #1 time piece;
Artwork, In High Spirits, Olaf Mueller photos from The Cat Street Gallery;
Sharp 108" LCD Display TV;
Sharp 108" LCD Display TV;
Sony PMW-F3K Camera S/N 0200231;
Sony PMW-F3K Camera S/N 0200561;
Artwork, Predator Statue;
Artwork, Christian Colin;
Artwork, Anonymous Hooded Sculpture;
2009 Mercedes-Benz ML350 CDI 4MATIC Off-Roader;
Sharp LC-65XS1M 65" LCD TV;
Sharp LC-65XS1M 65" LCD TV;
TVLogic 56" LUM56W TV;
Sixty (60) Dell R710 computer servers.
I don't think those license plate names are really going to help him out in court
:lulz:
Quote from: Alty on January 20, 2012, 03:25:57 AM
Quote from: Epimetheus on January 20, 2012, 01:16:41 AM
So apparently
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This is pretty much the only thing that matters, IMO.
It's not like we're going to have any kind of reform or see the US government topple; not if people are standing in the streets, and not if Wikipedia goes dark.
But getting the stupid fucks who actually make these decision to realize our best interests are their best interests is kind of amazing. How often does that happen? Hell, that's probably no even happening now. But it's pretty damned close, eh?
None of those assholes changed their minds about a god damned thing when students were getting maced by that dickhead from CA for no good fucking reason.
So, 31 Congresscritters who support internet freedom, 65 who do not, 70-85* who will say anything necessary to avoid losing votes once they realize people are paying attention, and over 350 too busy fundraising to notice.
*I didn't compare to see how many of the former "no" votes moved to "yes."
QuoteThe community has asked us to preserve emergency access options.
There you go, Dingo. On this page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_SOPA_blackout/Technical_FAQ%20
6 KAN {ripe corn 10:32AM PSt
Quote from: Cramulus on January 19, 2012, 02:21:47 PM
http://maddox.xmission.com/
Maddox, of the best page in the universe. Remember this dude? Well he's got something to say about SOPA:
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Because that's exactly what we need to wake up from this slumbering, do-nothing, "occupy everything," stagnant, non-action slump we Americans are in.
Quote from: snopes"Protest schemes that don't cost the participants any inconvenience, hardship or money remain the most popular, despite their ineffectiveness."
We're a country where people think that...
- Boycotting gas for a day makes a difference. It doesn't. Delaying when you buy gas by a day only broadcasts your intentions to oil speculators so they can profit. And the oil still gets purchased a day before or after anyway.
- Painstakingly recycling every single shred of garbage in your home makes a difference. It doesn't. Even if you, your neighbors, and everyone you've ever met recycled everything and reduced your waste output to zero, it wouldn't even make an observable impact on overall waste production in the world. Household waste and garden residue account for less than 3% of all waste produced in the US. That's less than the average statistical margin of error, and most people don't even come close to producing zero waste.
- Changing your profile picture on Facebook will get people to: A) stop abusing kids B) stop molesting kids C) stop killing kids and D) do anything.
- Signing an online petition, or changing the front page of your website to protest SOPA will fix anything.
SOPA is the "Stop Online Piracy Act." It's a shitty piece of legislation put together by puppetmaster lobbyists and politician puppets who don't know IP addresses from their assholes. My problem with this huge online protest against SOPA, and the reason I rarely take part in such protests, is because it doesn't address any problems, only the symptom. The problem isn't this shitty bill, it's the people who sponsored it. So we protest this bill today, bang enough pots and pans to shame a few backers into not letting this bill pass, then what? Those same dipshits who wrote this legislation still have jobs. They're going to try again, and again, and again until some mutation of this legislation passes. They'll sneak it into an appropriation bill while nobody's looking during recess, because there's too much lobbyist money at stake for them not to. We defeat SOPA today, only to face it again tomorrow. It's like trying to stop a cold by blowing your nose. It's time we go after the virus.
There have been many bills attempted (and some passed) like SOPA before it. There's the DMCA act of 1998, PRO-IP Act of 2008, the 2011 Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, and now the PROTECT IP Act of 2012. Think this victory means anything? A new bill gets introduced every year or two like clockwork. Check back in a few years, and there'll be another SOPA or Protect IP Act being squeezed down the lower intestinal tracts of congress. And then what? We black out our websites again like a merry band of idiots?
Raising awareness is a great way of feeling good about yourself without actually doing anything. Be honest with yourself:
How much do you care about SOPA?
Would you be willing to:
- Take time off work to go down to Washington DC?
- Boycott companies that supported it?
- Knock on this dickhead's door and ask him why he introduced such shitty legislation?
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- Make sure none of these losers get elected ever again?
Harry Reid (D-NV)
Howard Berman (D-CA)
Marsha Blackburn (R-TN)
Mary Bono Mack (R-CA)
Steve Chabot (R-OH)
John Conyers (D-MI)
Ted Deutch (D-FL)
Elton Gallegly (R-CA)
Bob Goodlatte (R-VA)
Timothy Griffin (R-AR)
Dennis A. Ross (R-FL)
Adam Schiff (D-CA)
Lee Terry (R-NE)
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Because until or unless you do, all the loud clamoring isn't going to change shit. If you think it's too severe a punishment to fire these jackasses over this bill, then consider the fact that politicians who supported this piece of legislation either:
1. Supported it knowing its full implications, despite the fact that it would introduce security risks, hurt the economy, innovation and jobs and would lead to censorship.
2. Or that they supported the bill not knowing the full implications of this legislation, which means that they're ignorant, and they shouldn't have their jobs anyway.
As of this writing, enough of you whined and got your way. Great, you stopped SOPA.
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It needs to get worse before it gets better. We need a really shitty piece of legislation like SOPA in this country to be the spark that ignites the lazy, idle tinders of protest. It's not uncommon or even controversial to say that Washington is corrupt. It doesn't cause anyone to bat an eye when you say it in public, with Republicans, Democrats or "other." That's a problem. We need SOPA to wake the sleeping giant in this country. It could have been our generation's Rodney King verdict. Instead of blacking out our websites, what we need to do is dismantle the system that created this bullshit. Enough is enough.
Instead of changing your Facebook icon to an anti-SOPA image for a day or two, here's something you can do that might make a real difference: boycott the companies that supported this legislation. There are too many to boycott all of them effectively, so I propose we pick two or three, hit them, and hit them hard. Punish them for putting their interests above ours. Hitting them in the wallet should send a message. I've highlighted the most difficult ones to boycott in red. The companies with the biggest return for our boycott are in yellow. The more we inconvenience ourselves, the more impact the boycott will have:
1-800 Contacts, Inc. - 801-924-9800 (contact)
1-800-PetMeds - 954-979-5995 (contact)
3M - 1-888-364-3577 (contact)
ABC (contact)
ABRO Industries, Inc. (automotive supplies) - (574) 232-8289 (contact)
Acushnet Company (Titleist and Footjoy golf) - (800)225-8500 (contact)
Adidas America - (800) 448-1796 (contact)
AstraZeneca plc - 1-800-236-9933 (contact)
Autodesk, Inc. - 415-507-5000 (contact)
Beachbody, LLC - 310-883-9000 (P90X, Insanity Videos) (contact)
Bose Coporation - (508) 879-7330 (contact)
Burberry - 800 284 8480 (contact)
Business Software Alliance Members:
Adobe - 408-536-6000 (contact)
Apple - 408.996.1010 Tim Cook, CEO (contact)
Autodesk - See individual listing.
AVEVA - Houston Office: 713-977-1225 (contact)
AVG - 978-319-4460 (contact)
Bentley Systems - 1-800-236-8539 (contact)
Cadence Design Systems - 408-943-1234 (contact)
CNC Software Mastercam - 800-228-2877 (contact)
Compuware - 313-227-7300 (contact)
Corel - 613-728-0826 (contact)
Dassault Systemes SolidWorks Corporation - France +33 1 61 62 61 62 (contact)
Dell - 512-338-4400 (contact)
Intel - 408-765-8080 (contact)
Intuit - 650-944-6000 (contact)
Mastercard (contact)
McAfee - 408-988-3832 (contact)
Microsoft - 425-882-8080 (contact)
Minitab - 814-238-3280 (contact)
Progress Software - 781-280-4000 (contact)
PTC - 781-370-5000 (contact)
Quark - 303-894-8888 (contact)
Quest - 800-306-9329 (contact)
Siemens PLM Software, Inc. - 800-498-5351 (contact)
Sybase - 1-800-792-2735 (contact)
Symantec - 650-527-8000 (contact)
TechSmith - 517-381-2300 (contact)
The MathWorks - 508-647-7000 (contact)
Callaway Golf Company - 800-588-9836 (contact)
Caterpillar Inc. - 309-675-1000 (contact)
CBS Corporation - 1-212-975-4321 (contact)
Chanel USA - 1.800.550.0005 (contact)
Coach - 1-800-444-3611 (contact)
Columbia Sportswear Company - (800) 622-6953 (contact)
Comcast Corporation - 215-286-1700 (contact)
Coty Inc. - 212-479-4300 (contact)
CVS Caremark - 401-765-1500 (contact)
Dolby Laboratories, Inc. - 415-558-0200 (contact)
Dolce & Gabbana USA, Inc. (contact)
Electronic Arts, Inc. - (650) 628-1500 (they open at 8am PT)
ESPN (contact)
Fender Musical Instrument Company - 480.596.9690 (contact)
Ford Motor Company - 800-392-3673 (contact)
Gibson Guitar Corp. - 1-800-444-2766 (contact)
Harley-Davidson Motor Company - 1-800-258-2464 (contact)
Johnson & Johnson - (732) 524-0400 (contact)
Juicy Couture, Inc - 1-888-908-1160 (contact)
Lacoste USA - 1-800-452-2678 (contact)
Leatherman Tool Group, Inc. - (800) 847-8665 (contact)
Lexmark International, Inc. - 1-859-232-2000 (contact)
Liz Claiborne, Inc - (212) 354-4900 (contact)
L'Oreal USA - 1-212-818-1500 (contact)
Lucky Brand Jeans - 1-866-975-5825 (contact)
Marvel (contact)
Major League Baseball - 212-485-3444 (contact)
Marmot - (707) 544-4590 (contact)
Monster Cable Products, Inc. - 415 840-2000 (contact)
National Basketball Association (NBA) (contact)
National Football League (NFL) (contact)
NBCUniversal - 212-664-4444 (contact)
Nervous Tattoo Inc., dba Ed Hardy - 323-785-4460 (contact)
New Balance Athletic Shoe, Inc. - (636) 326-1024 (contact)
New Era Cap Co Inc - 1-877-632-5950 (contact)
NHL Enterprises, L.P. - 212-789-2000 (contact)
Nike, Inc. - 1-503-671-6453 (contact)
Oakley, Inc. - (800) 431-1439 (contact)
Peavey Electronics Corporation - 601-483-5365 (contact)
Perry Ellis International - 1-800-994-0073 (contact)
Petzl America - 801-926-1310 (contact)
Pfizer Inc. - 1-212-733-2323 (contact)
PGA of America - (561) 624-8400 (contact)
Philip Morris International - 804-274-2000 or 800-343-0975 (contact)
PING - 1.800.474.6434 (contact)
Ralph Lauren Corporation - 888-475-7674 (contact)
Red Wing Shoe Company - 1-800-733-9464 (contact)
Reebok International Ltd. - 781-401-5000 (contact)
Revlon - 1-800-473-8566 (contact)
Rite Aid - Home Office: (717) 761-2633 (contact)
Rolex Watch USA Inc. - 665 5th Ave, New York, NY10022 - Tel: (212) 758-7700 - Fax: (212) 223-7443
Rosetta Stone Inc. - 1.800.280.8172? (contact)
Shure Incorporated - (847) 600-2000 (contact)
Sony Electronics Inc. (try 1-800-222-7669) (contact)
Sony Music Entertainment - (212) 833-8000 (contact)
Sony Pictures Entertainment - 310-244-4000 (contact)
Spyder Active Sports, Inc - 303-544-4000 (contact)
Taylor Guitars - 619-258-1207 (contact)
Taylor Made Golf Company, Inc. - 1.866.530.8624 (contact)
The Dow Chemical Company - 800-258-2436 (contact)
The Estee Lauder Companies - 877-311-3883 (contact)
The Timberland Company - 603-772-9500 (contact)
The Walt Disney Company - 818-560-1000 (contact)
Tiffany & Co. - 1-800-843-3269 (contact)
Time Warner Inc. - 212.484.8000 (contact)
Toshiba America Business Solutions, Inc. - Corporate Offices (949) 583-3000 (contact)
True Religion Jeans (contact)
UFC - Ultimate Fighting Championship - (702) 221-4780 (contact)
Visa (contact)
Viacom - (212) 258-6000 (contact)
Wal-Mart - 479-273-4000 (contact)
Warner Music Group - (212) 275-2000 (contact)
World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc. 203-352-8600 (see bottom of their link for corporate) (contact)
Xerox Corporation - 1-800-275-9376 (contact)
Zippo Manufacturing Company - 888.442.1932 (contact)
***Note: if there are any inaccuracies on this list (companies that don't support SOPA that were included, or companies that weren't included, email me).
The companies in red aren't impossible to boycott, (*copy and paster's note: I didn't color code the list -Cram) just a lot more difficult because of their size. For example, you'd probably have to spend an hour of research every week just to make sure you weren't supporting a Viacom property if you chose to boycott them, and a boycott fewer than a few million strong probably won't matter to a company as large as Viacom. The companies in yellow stand a chance of getting some significant fallout from a boycott. There are a number of publishers on this list, including my own publisher. If the consensus I get from readers is that we should boycott publishers, I'll support the boycott even though it hurts me. However, publishing companies traditionally haven't gone after piracy as blindly and bone-headedly as the MPAA and RIAA, so there are more deserving targets.
Which companies do you think deserve the boycott for SOPA? How would you propose we solve the problem that doesn't involve changing your Facebook profile picture? Email me. I'll update this site with a list. Keep it to the list of supporters. Updates soon.
Do you mind if I copy parts of this post to other forums?
fine by me--you know I didn't write it, right?
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on January 20, 2012, 06:14:56 PM
QuoteThe community has asked us to preserve emergency access options.
There you go, Dingo. On this page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_SOPA_blackout/Technical_FAQ%20
"Emergency Access"?
What the hell?
OMG! I really need to know if gorillas can sleep standing up!
That's right fuckers, don't buy Fender or Gibson guitars! Buy Danelectro! Sexy retro look AND great sound!
Quote from: Cramulus on January 20, 2012, 08:20:57 PM
fine by me--you know I didn't write it, right?
Oh right.
(though I thought you had at least formatted it for forum use)
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 20, 2012, 08:23:04 PM
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on January 20, 2012, 06:14:56 PM
QuoteThe community has asked us to preserve emergency access options.
There you go, Dingo. On this page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_SOPA_blackout/Technical_FAQ%20
"Emergency Access"?
What the hell?
OMG! I really need to know if gorillas can sleep standing up!
Right? If you need wikipedia as an emergency resource, you're probably not in a big pickle in the first place.
Maddox added a bit to the end of the same page today. Apparently the original letter from the entertainment industry to Congress claims over 2 million workers in the industry are affected by piracy. He looked at some census records and the number of employees is actually something like 360,000, about 25% of which are food and service industry positions. The 2 million number only works if you include all forms of entertainment (sports events, gambling, museums, etc.).
Quote from: Cramulus on January 19, 2012, 03:17:11 PMI called my congressional representatives and senators yesterday. And the thing which prompted me to actually do it was a friend's post on FB about slacktivism. Lots of people are going to change their FB avatar, post some status updates about SOPA, make a show of "support", but this micro-activism is invisible to the people calling the shots.
Given the positive SubGenius definition of "slack", shouldn't we be careful not to pollute the term and use a different word? ;-)
Quote from: Placid Dingo on January 20, 2012, 06:20:21 AM
For the record Wikipedia actually gave instruction on how to circumvent the blackout; if you read their description on what SOPA was, it said explicitly that they wanted to send ther messae not inconvenience anyone.
What I
really like about this, is the side-effect of how it probably taught thousands of people how they can disable Javascript on a website to stop unwanted behaviour.
Some of them might even get curious and go look for the many many other tricksy ways you can get webpages to do your unintended biddings.
Quote from: hirley0 on January 20, 2012, 06:32:32 PM
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show posts rather than update my position | everything defaults to MAIN
I never quite understood why or how you used those in-forum links anyway?
They help you to navigate the forum?
Is there a reason why the many other links already available (such as "show unread (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?action=unread)", "show replies (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?action=unreadreplies)", "Profile>Show Posts (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts)", "Profile>Show Posts>Topics (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;sa=topics)", "most recent posts on this forum (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?action=recent)") are not convenient for you? Or is it just that you like this way better (which is ok).
Just asking, cause maybe if there's a way to automate those links, I could add it as a feature in the forum, for your convenience (the links wouldn't appear in posts then but somewhere else on the page).
(hm makes me think I might want to bookmark those links and bind them to a quick access key or button or something--in my browser)
Great. I need a new ISP. :argh!:
Black March - http://megauprising.com/black-march/
I was pretty doubtful of this but it seems to have some good backing - The Electronic Frontier Foundation, Mozilla and Creative Commons.
Quote from: Triple Zero on January 20, 2012, 10:37:15 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 19, 2012, 03:17:11 PMI called my congressional representatives and senators yesterday. And the thing which prompted me to actually do it was a friend's post on FB about slacktivism. Lots of people are going to change their FB avatar, post some status updates about SOPA, make a show of "support", but this micro-activism is invisible to the people calling the shots.
Given the positive SubGenius definition of "slack", shouldn't we be careful not to pollute the term and use a different word? ;-)
nah, it was exactly the term I was looking for
"Better the government shut down than Wikipedia go on strike. That would be like part of my mind going on strike. Just give Wikipedia whatever they want — we don't even need to hear what it is." — Ray Kurzweil
I must say, I am quite amused at some of the more....outspoken defences of the owner of Megaupload out there.
Sure, there are questions about due process, the correct scope of government power etc, but at the same time, it's incredibly funny to watch people opposed to SOPA and PIPA trying to turn him into a symbol for the cause.
Because someone who makes millions out of disenfranchising artists of their earnings is really the ideal person to stand up to Hollywood. Also, watching them defend someone previously arrested on insider trade and fraud charges, while decrying the corruption of the financial system is kinda amusing.
I'm still giggling over the fact that he owned a car with the license plate "GUILTY"
Thumbing your nose at the German authorities like that is not a good idea. Not known for their sense of humour, the German judicial system.
Quote from: Cramulus on January 18, 2012, 07:06:34 PM
https://twitter.com/herpderpedia :lulz:
an index of people who are PISSED OFF THAT WIKIPEDIA'S DOWN
Related.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/23/freetard_sopa_fail
DOWN with Scottish Organic Producers AND their Associations
Quote from: Hoser McRhizzy on January 23, 2012, 10:35:12 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 18, 2012, 07:06:34 PM
https://twitter.com/herpderpedia :lulz:
an index of people who are PISSED OFF THAT WIKIPEDIA'S DOWN
Related.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/23/freetard_sopa_fail
DOWN with Scottish Organic Producers AND their Associations
OMG I laughed and laughed!
QuoteThe Scottish Organic Producers Association - whose website is at sopa.org.uk - was perplexed when it found itself on the receiving of dozens of nasty and illiterate emails.
http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2011/111221airvinyl
Before it was shut down Megaupload was planning on launching a music download service that would treat artists better than Itunes.
Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on January 24, 2012, 06:45:25 PM
http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2011/111221airvinyl
Before it was shut down Megaupload was planning on launching a music download service that would treat artists better than Itunes.
I've been seeing a lot of buzz around this.
ACTA: Anyone heard of this?
http://www.avaaz.org/en/eu_save_the_internet/?vl
I'm following it closely, yeah. It's not as bad as SOPA, but pretty bad and they've done their utmost to keep it secret from us, as well as monitoring EU bodies:
https://www.laquadrature.net/wiki/ACTA_rapporteur_denounces_ACTA_mascarade
And KROM, of course, is much worse
http://cramul.us/2012/01/the-new-threat-to-the-internet/
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