Cut & pasted verbatim. Where DO these freaks come from?
QuoteSuch a life. Such a dirty life. I'm on the net to visit pages containing lesbian pictures, videos,...I'm christian, at the moment, a slave of pornographie. Life is something for me. I am no more self confident towards girls.I realized I could become gay, going on like that. I'm horribly upset. Why go on the net, to visit pages containing lesbian pictures, videos,...I'm christian, I'm catholic. I masturbated again. I don't wann go on living like that. If you can do something for me. Please help me. I can't stand it no more self confident towards girls.I realized I could become gay, going on like that. I don't wanna die now. Please help me. I can't talk to God anymore. I'm lost.I don't understand anything more to life, religion, girls, future... I stopped my studies. I have been masturbating for me. I could become gay, going on like that. Porn is something that turns human crazy. It hurts deeply. I'll carry my injuries all life. At times my brain is so dark. I've no friends. I can't talk to God anymore. I'm lost.I realized I think I'm mad now. I don't know if someone can do something for me.
Such a life. Such a dirty life. At times my brain is only full of sex pictures. I don't wann go on living
like that. If you can do something for me, don't hesitate. I cried, and I felt strange. But a few days later, I masturbated again. In fact, I'm catholic. I never spoke about masturbating with someone, expect a "Holy brother" who said me that the Holy Spirit came in me. I cried, and I felt strange. But a few days later, I think I'm catholic. I could become gay, going on like that turns human crazy. It hurts deeply. I'll carry my injuries all life. I'm, at the moment, a slave of pornographie.
Such a life. Such a dirty life. At times my brain is something that turns human crazy. It hurts deeply.
I'll carry my injuries all life. I'm, at the Holy Spirit would help me. I don't know if someone can do
something for me. I'm lost.Please help me. I can't talk to God anymore. I'm fed up with all that. Porn
is something that turns human crazy. It hurts deeply. I'll carry my injuries all life. I'm christian, going
on like that. I'm horribly upset. Why go on the net, to go on living like that. If you can do something
for me.
Such a slave of pornographie.
whaat? This arrived at your e-mail address? Have you had any correspondence from this guy before? That is some weird, sad shit.
Are you going to help the bastard out? :lol:
Quote from: Cramulus on January 31, 2012, 08:22:18 PM
whaat? This arrived at your e-mail address? Have you had any correspondence from this guy before? That is some weird, sad shit.
Are you going to help the bastard out? :lol:
I'm assuming this is the same person that sent me the "Dance to Save the Earth" screed, under a different name.
Either that, or my Holiness is attracting the weirdos.
Let me get this straight...
Watching two women having sex with each other turns men gay? I thought that sort of thing was rather typical of dudes who like chicks.
Twid
apparently gay
Quote from: Billy the Twid on January 31, 2012, 08:28:16 PM
Let me get this straight...
Watching two women having sex with each other turns men gay? I thought that sort of thing was rather typical of dudes who like chicks.
Twid
apparently gay
Either I have the best troll EVER following me around, or this guy is seriously disturbed.
either way: http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5388/pornographie.png
Quote from: Queen_Gogira on January 31, 2012, 09:25:12 PM
either way: http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5388/pornographie.png
:spit:
Quote from: Queen_Gogira on January 31, 2012, 09:25:12 PM
either way: http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5388/pornographie.png
Will look at on the laptop at home.
Fucking nannywall.
Quote from: Queen_Gogira on January 31, 2012, 09:25:12 PM
either way: http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5388/pornographie.png
This is all... just all of it... amazing. :lol:
That's one sick puppy you have following you around, Roger. Or brilliant.
in that case,
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llq990GDCf1qah7rs.gif)
Quote from: Queen_Gogira on January 31, 2012, 09:25:12 PM
either way: http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5388/pornographie.png
Awesome.
And, Roger, you get the best nutballs...
And they WATCH ME! :lulz:
QuoteHey what we were talking about was personel. You had no call to putit out in public like that. Your supposed to be a religios man, not trying to make me crazy. You told all those hores what I said, they're all slutts and you told them! You better not ever let me find out were you are (in Tucson?) because you told on me to slutts. You and those slutts better stay out of my life! I just wanted some advise on what to do about the pornographie that is ruining my life and taking me from God.
At night time it makes me cry in shame so you have to call to make fun of me to slutts! You are supposed to help me. You owe me help with the porn. If you dont help me. If you don;t help me, then I will ask God to make you suffer like I suffer with the lesbians that try to steel me from God. You probably make sex pictures. You are in league with the devil. If you don't help me. Don't make me find youre slutts. God will show the way, if I stop watching the pornographie.
Roger's note: Whatever you say, screwy.
Interesting. Screwy's spelling and syntax are even worse. Either one of you fuckers is taking the piss and going overboard, or his meds are wearing off.
Apparently he's cursing you to watch lesbian porn?
Quote from: Queen_Gogira on February 01, 2012, 12:21:52 AM
Apparently he's cursing you to watch lesbian porn?
:lulz:
That actually would be a bit of a curse, because I am not at all turned on by lesbian pornography. I'm weird, that way.
Sadly, this sort of shit is not a new experience for me.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 01, 2012, 12:23:23 AM
Quote from: Queen_Gogira on February 01, 2012, 12:21:52 AM
Apparently he's cursing you to watch lesbian porn?
:lulz:
That actually would be a bit of a curse, because I am not at all turned on by lesbian pornography. I'm weird, that way.
Sadly, this sort of shit is not a new experience for me.
I can empathize, I will never understand why straight women like gay porn. Who honestly thinks dudes are that much fun to look at, anyway?
This guy's pretty special, huh. :lulz:
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on February 01, 2012, 12:39:04 AM
This guy's pretty special, huh. :lulz:
I am beginning to suspect that it's my old pal Tentasticle.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 01, 2012, 12:11:42 AM
And they WATCH ME! :lulz:
QuoteHey what we were talking about was personel. You had no call to putit out in public like that. Your supposed to be a religios man, not trying to make me crazy. You told all those hores what I said, they're all slutts and you told them! You better not ever let me find out were you are (in Tucson?) because you told on me to slutts. You and those slutts better stay out of my life! I just wanted some advise on what to do about the pornographie that is ruining my life and taking me from God.
At night time it makes me cry in shame so you have to call to make fun of me to slutts! You are supposed to help me. You owe me help with the porn. If you dont help me. If you don;t help me, then I will ask God to make you suffer like I suffer with the lesbians that try to steel me from God. You probably make sex pictures. You are in league with the devil. If you don't help me. Don't make me find youre slutts. God will show the way, if I stop watching the pornographie.
Roger's note: Whatever you say, screwy.
I just... whoa. This is the kind of moment when my overly-optimistic inner child says "LOL it HAS to be someone taking the piss!"
That inner child never, ever learns.
Quote from: Queen_Gogira on February 01, 2012, 12:26:26 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 01, 2012, 12:23:23 AM
Quote from: Queen_Gogira on February 01, 2012, 12:21:52 AM
Apparently he's cursing you to watch lesbian porn?
:lulz:
That actually would be a bit of a curse, because I am not at all turned on by lesbian pornography. I'm weird, that way.
Sadly, this sort of shit is not a new experience for me.
I can empathize, I will never understand why straight women like gay porn. Who honestly thinks dudes are that much fun to look at, anyway?
:fap: Naked dudes are HAWT.
Quote from: Queen_Gogira on February 01, 2012, 12:26:26 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 01, 2012, 12:23:23 AM
Quote from: Queen_Gogira on February 01, 2012, 12:21:52 AM
Apparently he's cursing you to watch lesbian porn?
:lulz:
That actually would be a bit of a curse, because I am not at all turned on by lesbian pornography. I'm weird, that way.
Sadly, this sort of shit is not a new experience for me.
I can empathize, I will never understand why straight women like gay porn. Who honestly thinks dudes are that much fun to look at, anyway?
Women are nice to look at...But knowing that they'd have precisely zero interest sort of kills the fantasy aspect of it, ya know?
Dear nutball,
Awfully judgemental, aren't you? After all, calling people you don't know sluts and whores... Judge not, remember? After all, none of us is complaining about a porn addiction, or are worried about turning gay. He who is without sin, and all that...
Here's your problem, son. You think you can use, "but I'm CHRISTIAN!" as an excuse to be an asshole.
That doesn't fly. Not here, and, I suspect you'll find, not anyplace else that matters, probably just with other Christians.
Step the first, quit worrying so much about your dick, and worry about the fact that you're ACTING like a dick.
Another matter of consideration.
What you consider a Holy Man and what we consider a Holy Man are almost certainly very different things.
Our Holy Men you probably don't want advice from. It's not for the faint of heart or the weak of stomach. No, our Holiness is a form of divine madness. We are, after all, devotees (in a sense) of Disorder. This is not a Catholic forum. Consult your local properly ordained and in communion with Rome priest.
Edited to make communication more accurate by changing it to communion.
If it is Tent, he's developed a sense of humour that doesn't revolve around condescension, vague statements to look mysterious and doorstepping people.
Which is not to say it is genuine brand crazy still, but, well, I'd look at somewhat more recent personages.
Incidentally, I've been having great fun lately, applying the Behavioural Analysis' Units methods to political crime and terrorism. I could do a letter writing analysis of this...but I suspect it would suck all the fun out of it.
Quote from: Cain on February 01, 2012, 08:14:19 AM
If it is Tent, he's developed a sense of humour that doesn't revolve around condescension, vague statements to look mysterious and doorstepping people.
Which is not to say it is genuine brand crazy still, but, well, I'd look at somewhat more recent personages.
Incidentally, I've been having great fun lately, applying the Behavioural Analysis' Units methods to political crime and terrorism. I could do a letter writing analysis of this...but I suspect it would suck all the fun out of it.
I welcome a PM about it.
I once saw a (probably half assed) documentary on Jack the Ripper that did letter writing analysis.
I believe they concluded that he was a med student could have been, and the American son of an Irish immigrant.
Might be bollocks, but, hey, it's fun to listen to.
Twid,
Enjoyed the shit out of a talk at the Dorchester Historical Society (where Villager volunteers) by the guy who wrote Dark Tide (http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Tide-Great-Boston-Molasses/dp/0807050210/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328085773&sr=8-1). .
Also got his Music and History slack back in the same weekend.
Lies. Jack the Ripper was clearly Adolf Hitler, as David Icke so expertly proved.
OK, I'll get on it in a bit.
Quote from: Cain on February 01, 2012, 08:50:20 AM
Lies. Jack the Ripper was clearly Adolf Hitler, as David Icke so expertly proved.
OK, I'll get on it in a bit.
Thanks man!
Roger, your crazies are the best. :lulz:
Just the first email is actually rather sad--if I were to take it at face value--the second one, with him watching you changes all that of course.
Once saw a documentary about Catholics getting completely screwed in their upbringing with the "masturbation = YOU GO TO HELL (and makes you gay, which also = GO TO HELL)", sometimes the combination of how it's taught plus some persons REALLY believe it and HELL is the most terrible place, it means you lose for eternity, and then I dunno some people can't help themselves and masturbate, and they get completely consumed by guilt and, well either they figure out at younger age that the Church is bullshit, or that in fact the trick to being a young male Catholic is that it's okay to masturbate as long as you don't tell anyone because EVEN JESUS DID IT (why do you think they never wrote about the first 30 years of his life? it's because those thin Bible pages are impossible to tear apart if you get spunk on them) --
or they go through life, far into adulthood, guilt tripping them until their minds are crippled, believing masturbation is a sin and they go to HELL, maybe realize at some age how it was all a lie, or maybe not, either way then they're fucked up, and THAT is Hell, and it was not masturbation but the Church that put them there.
Regardless this guy is crazy. Either he's taking the piss, or he really is a sad nutcase like the above, but you can't help him either way.
Maybe he thinks "The Good Reverend" refers to a Catholic reverend?
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 01, 2012, 09:37:34 AM
Just the first email is actually rather sad--if I were to take it at face value--the second one, with him watching you changes all that of course.
Once saw a documentary about Catholics getting completely screwed in their upbringing with the "masturbation = YOU GO TO HELL (and makes you gay, which also = GO TO HELL)", sometimes the combination of how it's taught plus some persons REALLY believe it and HELL is the most terrible place, it means you lose for eternity, and then I dunno some people can't help themselves and masturbate, and they get completely consumed by guilt and, well either they figure out at younger age that the Church is bullshit, or that in fact the trick to being a young male Catholic is that it's okay to masturbate as long as you don't tell anyone because EVEN JESUS DID IT (why do you think they never wrote about the first 30 years of his life? it's because those thin Bible pages are impossible to tear apart if you get spunk on them) --
or they go through life, far into adulthood, guilt tripping them until their minds are crippled, believing masturbation is a sin and they go to HELL, maybe realize at some age how it was all a lie, or maybe not, either way then they're fucked up, and THAT is Hell, and it was not masturbation but the Church that put them there.
Regardless this guy is crazy. Either he's taking the piss, or he really is a sad nutcase like the above, but you can't help him either way.
Maybe he thinks "The Good Reverend" refers to a Catholic reverend?
That's not common parlance in the Catholic Church though, or at least not that I'm aware of. Catholic clergy are generally called "Father" , maybe "Bishop" or "Cardinal", or "Monsignor" (if they are special enough to get rewards and honorifics from the Pope or somesuch, not quite sure what that signifies, honestly). I am not sure I've ever heard a Catholic priest referred to as "Reverend" before. It's possible, but... weird.
In regards to the rest of your post, you pretty much hit the nail on the head there, but for a lot of people, it's not
just masturbation. "Good ol' Catholic guilt" is a pretty serious problem for a lot of folks, and there ain't nothing "good" about it.
If we're having guesses at who/what/where I'm leaning toward spanish dildo who made my awesome sig
Ph0X, the Catholic Church is kind of big, spread out over many continents, cultures and languages.
Still Trip, titles like the Good and Very Reverend are far more Anglican than Catholic.
Incidentally, if you put "good reverend" into Google, it autocompletes for "good reverend roger" on the second choice.
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 01, 2012, 09:50:05 AM
Ph0X, the Catholic Church is kind of big, spread out over many continents, cultures and languages.
Yes, that's true. Like I said, it's possible. And actually, thinking it over, I have seen "The Reverend Father" written before. *shrug*. That said, given this person's apparent knowledge of Roger, I'd like to believe he wouldn't be so foolish as to believe Roger as anything short of a heretical, defrocked priest. :lol:
Quote from: Cain on February 01, 2012, 09:56:40 AM
Still Trip, titles like the Good and Very Reverend are far more Anglican than Catholic.
Incidentally, if you put "good reverend" into Google, it autocompletes for "good reverend roger" on the second choice.
Confirmed. Hilarious. :lulz:
daaamn. that's quite the accomplishment !
Quote from: Cain on February 01, 2012, 09:56:40 AM
Still Trip, titles like the Good and Very Reverend are far more Anglican than Catholic.
Incidentally, if you put "good reverend" into Google, it autocompletes for "good reverend roger" on the second choice.
They're gonna put me in a cage.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 01, 2012, 01:51:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 01, 2012, 09:56:40 AM
Still Trip, titles like the Good and Very Reverend are far more Anglican than Catholic.
Incidentally, if you put "good reverend" into Google, it autocompletes for "good reverend roger" on the second choice.
They're gonna put me in a cage.
It's probably how the spag found you... one missed click and POW!
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 01, 2012, 09:47:19 AM
If we're having guesses at who/what/where I'm leaning toward spanish dildo who made my awesome sig
I was also thinking Khore. The punctuation and clumsy grammar matches up okay.
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 01, 2012, 09:50:05 AM
Ph0X, the Catholic Church is kind of big, spread out over many continents, cultures and languages.
Right, but within the English language, reverend would be used so rarely for a priest that it becomes almost non-existent. I imagine that it's mostly for official purposes, as in, the title that is conferred onto them by the state, or in proper address in a letter- which would then be used as some sort of descriptor for their rank or whatever. Priests are almost always referred to and addressed in speech as Father, and maybe comically as Padre. "Reverend" and "Minister" immediately strike a Catholic ear as referring to Protestant clergy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverend#Roman_Catholic
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 01, 2012, 01:51:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 01, 2012, 09:56:40 AM
Still Trip, titles like the Good and Very Reverend are far more Anglican than Catholic.
Incidentally, if you put "good reverend" into Google, it autocompletes for "good reverend roger" on the second choice.
They're gonna put me in a cage.
I'd bake you a cake with a file in it.
While they're freaking over that, Richter, Dimo, and EoC will lead the assault, while the rest of the NESpag Rescue Squad smuggle you out in a bad wig and a mumu.
Just to go to the other end of things, fuck man, how many of these things do you get? I know it's the internet and all, but it's gotta reach a creepy factor after a while - at least with the persistent ones. I mean, every one's a harmless weirdo until, well, they're not. Working at a law office on a busy road, I get my fair share of weirdos of varying degrees of crazy, most of which are pretty harmless seeming, but a recent conversation with one client was creepy enough to make me feel threatened, putting the rest of it in perspective.
Meh, I know it's the internet, you can handle yourself and most of them are probably harmless and/or incapable weirdos, but thinking about it, it can be pretty disturbing
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on February 01, 2012, 05:24:34 PM
Just to go to the other end of things, fuck man, how many of these things do you get? I know it's the internet and all, but it's gotta reach a creepy factor after a while - at least with the persistent ones. I mean, every one's a harmless weirdo until, well, they're not. Working at a law office on a busy road, I get my fair share of weirdos of varying degrees of crazy, most of which are pretty harmless seeming, but a recent conversation with one client was creepy enough to make me feel threatened, putting the rest of it in perspective.
Meh, I know it's the internet, you can handle yourself and most of them are probably harmless and/or incapable weirdos, but thinking about it, it can be pretty disturbing
I get about 3 every two months or so, not including repeat "customers". I usually spam file them, unless they're funny or unless they make overt threats, in which case I take appropriate steps, which usually means I egg them on to greater heights of whackjobbery.
Because I'm just that bored with the world, these days.
You could always try making some cash off of these poor, lost souls looking for salvation, that is, unless you're a non-prophet.
Quote from: Suu on February 01, 2012, 07:07:08 PM
You could always try making some cash off of these poor, lost souls looking for salvation, that is, unless you're a non-prophet.
That's my bit. :crankey:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 01, 2012, 07:07:36 PM
Quote from: Suu on February 01, 2012, 07:07:08 PM
You could always try making some cash off of these poor, lost souls looking for salvation, that is, unless you're a non-prophet.
That's my bit. :crankey:
:thanks:
-Suu
Had tone, took the shot.
BAMP
So, I want to use that pornographie image for the project, but I need to know it's cool to kopyleft that shit. Did it end up being a troll, or is it out there at this point so who cares?
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on June 30, 2013, 02:01:25 PM
BAMP
So, I want to use that pornographie image for the project, but I need to know it's cool to kopyleft that shit. Did it end up being a troll, or is it out there at this point so who cares?
Appears to be hosted here: http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/FIST2000-4/rants/X0013_Re-_Testimonial_.html
Don't know why. Says it was a testimonial at porn-free, but I can't find it there today.
Quote from: Pæs on July 01, 2013, 09:27:59 AM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on June 30, 2013, 02:01:25 PM
BAMP
So, I want to use that pornographie image for the project, but I need to know it's cool to kopyleft that shit. Did it end up being a troll, or is it out there at this point so who cares?
Appears to be hosted here: http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/FIST2000-4/rants/X0013_Re-_Testimonial_.html
Don't know why. Says it was a testimonial at porn-free, but I can't find it there today.
I know who the jackass is now. :lulz:
YOUR ASS IS MINE, HUEY!
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 01, 2013, 03:20:07 PM
Quote from: Pæs on July 01, 2013, 09:27:59 AM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on June 30, 2013, 02:01:25 PM
BAMP
So, I want to use that pornographie image for the project, but I need to know it's cool to kopyleft that shit. Did it end up being a troll, or is it out there at this point so who cares?
Appears to be hosted here: http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/FIST2000-4/rants/X0013_Re-_Testimonial_.html
Don't know why. Says it was a testimonial at porn-free, but I can't find it there today.
I know who the jackass is now. :lulz:
YOUR ASS IS MINE, HUEY!
Is there a way to track it down and hammer down usage rights, or have we reached the point where it's fair use?
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on July 01, 2013, 03:27:08 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 01, 2013, 03:20:07 PM
Quote from: Pæs on July 01, 2013, 09:27:59 AM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on June 30, 2013, 02:01:25 PM
BAMP
So, I want to use that pornographie image for the project, but I need to know it's cool to kopyleft that shit. Did it end up being a troll, or is it out there at this point so who cares?
Appears to be hosted here: http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/FIST2000-4/rants/X0013_Re-_Testimonial_.html
Don't know why. Says it was a testimonial at porn-free, but I can't find it there today.
I know who the jackass is now. :lulz:
YOUR ASS IS MINE, HUEY!
Is there a way to track it down and hammer down usage rights, or have we reached the point where it's fair use?
No, unfortunately it isn't. It's from alt.slack, and is on subgenius.com, which is not creative commons. You could excerpt one paragraph under fair use, though.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 01, 2013, 04:41:25 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on July 01, 2013, 03:27:08 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 01, 2013, 03:20:07 PM
Quote from: Pæs on July 01, 2013, 09:27:59 AM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on June 30, 2013, 02:01:25 PM
BAMP
So, I want to use that pornographie image for the project, but I need to know it's cool to kopyleft that shit. Did it end up being a troll, or is it out there at this point so who cares?
Appears to be hosted here: http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/FIST2000-4/rants/X0013_Re-_Testimonial_.html
Don't know why. Says it was a testimonial at porn-free, but I can't find it there today.
I know who the jackass is now. :lulz:
YOUR ASS IS MINE, HUEY!
Is there a way to track it down and hammer down usage rights, or have we reached the point where it's fair use?
No, unfortunately it isn't. It's from alt.slack, and is on subgenius.com, which is not creative commons. You could excerpt one paragraph under fair use, though.
Is there a way to hunt down the author?
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on July 01, 2013, 04:45:08 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 01, 2013, 04:41:25 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on July 01, 2013, 03:27:08 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 01, 2013, 03:20:07 PM
Quote from: Pæs on July 01, 2013, 09:27:59 AM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on June 30, 2013, 02:01:25 PM
BAMP
So, I want to use that pornographie image for the project, but I need to know it's cool to kopyleft that shit. Did it end up being a troll, or is it out there at this point so who cares?
Appears to be hosted here: http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/FIST2000-4/rants/X0013_Re-_Testimonial_.html
Don't know why. Says it was a testimonial at porn-free, but I can't find it there today.
I know who the jackass is now. :lulz:
YOUR ASS IS MINE, HUEY!
Is there a way to track it down and hammer down usage rights, or have we reached the point where it's fair use?
No, unfortunately it isn't. It's from alt.slack, and is on subgenius.com, which is not creative commons. You could excerpt one paragraph under fair use, though.
Is there a way to hunt down the author?
Probably not. He was one of the kooks.
This thread is delightful. :lulz:
Quote from: Aucoq on October 19, 2013, 06:03:26 AM
This thread is delightful. :lulz:
Yeah, well, I got Huey for that one.