We encompass the spirt of the word.
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But we Anglophones invented the word.
That's like saying white people are cool because they stole Rock and Roll.
Yea we did invent the word, but its use by mainstream media in the US is not accepted. Whereas in Germany it is used on their nightly news.
But do they say shitstorm or scheissesturm? I once heard a japanese swear on the x files.
Shitstorm as it is said in American.
Im not sure what germnays censorship laws are but one can easily get away with profanity from another language i think.
Not in the US. I have heard many songs/teevee programs that have bleeped the offending foreign words.
But then again Sublime gets played a lot of times uncensored.
Im trying to think now if ive ever seen a broadcast of the south park movie and if they edit the essen meine scheisse bit and the references to german scheisse porn
On Comedy Central they have unless it is the late night Saturday showing. The station usually skips over the schissen, but the idea is still implied.
Quote from: Lux Aorta of the 40 D on February 23, 2012, 07:00:53 PM
Not in the US. I have heard many songs/teevee programs that have bleeped the offending foreign words.
But then again Sublime gets played a lot of times uncensored.
Out here in Tucson, they radio-edit EVERYTHING.
Which, of course, has destroyed the artistic integrity of many works. Rehab's
The Bartender Song was the perfect depiction of the American Nightmare at the redneck level, and it was Disney-fied by local sensors, as well as that fat fucking useless prick, Hank Williams Jr, who shoe-horned a cameo and then made them rewrite it...Because swear words in a song about alcoholism, domestic violence, and the US prison system would just be inappropriate, one presumes.
This is, of course, symtomatic of the faux-moralism that America has always been in love with. 10 murders in an hour is good television, but an exposed boob is a $100,000 fine. Sending your kids off to die for Halliburton is "patriotic", but swearing in a song about horror and doom is somehow a cardinal sin.
Yeah. We cant have any naughty synonyms for excrememnt on tv. Thats just too uncivilized...
Tell me about it, I was over at my in-laws this past weekend. My father-in-law was watching some NCIS re-run where they had all of these "meat puzzles" in a morgue. Basically a bunch of dead people who were dismembered and, well, turned into meat puzzles. This was like 2:00 P.M.
That stuff passes, but like you say, 2 seconds of Janet Jackson's boob causes all kinds of shit.
If my son had to be exposed to one or the other I know I'd feel a lot better him seeing a flash of a boob. For one, it's a lot easier to explain to a kid that young.
Quote from: That'll be five Twid, please. on February 23, 2012, 06:47:25 PM
But do they say shitstorm or scheissesturm? I once heard a japanese swear on the x files.
Shitstorm. It was voted "Anglicism of the year". An Anglicism is an English loanword, so it's not translated, just used in every day language. If it's a verb it'll be conjugated by the German rules for verbing, hence "leaken" was another nominee, the Germanized loan-root of the English verb "to leak" (in the context of Wikileaks, etc).
What I do wonder about is whether the German language really has no proper term to express the idea of "shitstorm".
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 26, 2012, 08:01:53 PM
Quote from: That'll be five Twid, please. on February 23, 2012, 06:47:25 PM
But do they say shitstorm or scheissesturm? I once heard a japanese swear on the x files.
An Anglicism is an English loanword, so it's not translated, just used in every day language.
It has a slightly broader definition that that. From wikipedia: An Anglicism, as most often defined, is a word borrowed from English into another language. "Anglicism" also describes English syntax, grammar, meaning, and structure used in another language with varying degrees of corruption.
For example, I sometimes catch myself saying (in dutch) "Aan de andere hand...", and then get rightfully chastised by the people around me.
ah you're right.
I don't always agree about the righteousness of such chastising, though. Dutch hiphop is completely saturated with Anglicisms and so it finds its way to common spoken language. While Germanisms in that sense of the word are pretty much impossible to define--or at least to hate on--because we have proper loanwords like "sowieso" and "uberhaupt" while what's spoken in the whole NL-DE border region is filled with mixed up sentence structures, on both sides, that it is truly impossible to say whether a phrase or way of saying something was originally Dutch or German or common to both.
But then, the hardcore language purists don't hate as much on Germanisms as they do with Anglicisms do they? Because a Germanism phrasing of words, it sounds so authentically Dutch, like the Dutch our grandparents' parents wrote, the way it should have been and when we knew what's best for us, nothing like that modern fancypance facebook generation English mashuppery!
Or ... do they just hate less on Germanisms because there's more truth in the word "taalnazi" (language nazi) than they'd like to admit? ;-) :lulz:
What the hell is up with German toilets, though?
Um, I dunno? Their roadside/gas-stop ("Reststatte") toilets are really really clean and pleasant to use?
No, what's with them?
That they're not gigantic soup bowls filled with gallons upon gallons of water that splash back onto your buttcheeks whenever you drop something in them? That's not just Germany, I always figured you just misjudged the amount of water that sensibly would go into a toilet because some yahoo got their metric conversions wrong or something.
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 26, 2012, 10:27:32 PM
Um, I dunno? Their roadside/gas-stop ("Reststatte") toilets are really really clean and pleasant to use?
No, what's with them?
That they're not gigantic soup bowls filled with gallons upon gallons of water that splash back onto your buttcheeks whenever you drop something in them? That's not just Germany, I always figured you just misjudged the amount of water that sensibly would go into a toilet because some yahoo got their metric conversions wrong or something.
Maybe there's something wrong with the way that I poop, but I've never gotten backsplash on by buttcheeks. And especially with the placement of my rather tiny bathroom off the kitchen area, I
really appreciate the smell-minimization of not pooping onto a dry shelf.
There's not much water in the bowl of a normal toilet, anyway, and it seems like what does remain in the bowl would be pretty well offset by not having to use so much to wash the poop off the poop-shelf.
Dude, the poop-shelf is just weird. I think that squat toilets make perfect sense, but German toilets... not so much. It's got all the disadvantages of a squat toilet COMBINED with all of the disadvantages of a Western toilet.
I know a website where you can get excellent feedback on this...
Quote from: Cain on February 26, 2012, 10:49:47 PM
I know a website where you can get excellent feedback on this...
Noooooooo! D:
Poop shelf. What a wonderful term!
We got them too btw. Not everywhere, it's about 50/50. I got one! It's not weird! And the smell's not a problem because you flush it and don't poop with the door open. Usually. When you live with other people. Anyway after you flush it it's gone soon enough.
The shelf's not entirely dry btw, there's a small puddle of water on it, to help prevent streaks.
I can understand why it's weird though. It's funny I never thought of it until, years back, I saw some American artists complain about it on a Dutch TV music channel :lulz: And I wondered, yeah, that is pretty weird, why do we have that?
I mean, the only reason I can think of is the satisfaction of shortly admiring that which you just produced, before you flush it. And nobody can deny that is indeed weird. Even though everybody does it, of course.
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 26, 2012, 11:38:46 PM
Poop shelf. What a wonderful term!
We got them too btw. Not everywhere, it's about 50/50. I got one! It's not weird! And the smell's not a problem because you flush it and don't poop with the door open. Usually. When you live with other people. Anyway after you flush it it's gone soon enough.
The shelf's not entirely dry btw, there's a small puddle of water on it, to help prevent streaks.
I can understand why it's weird though. It's funny I never thought of it until, years back, I saw some American artists complain about it on a Dutch TV music channel :lulz: And I wondered, yeah, that is pretty weird, why do we have that?
I mean, the only reason I can think of is the satisfaction of shortly admiring that which you just produced, before you flush it. And nobody can deny that is indeed weird. Even though everybody does it, of course.
I think that the part that makes it not make any sense to me is that the only logic behind a poop-shelf is, as you mention, so that you can examine your poop before flushing it. Which would probably be a very good idea in some cases, such as if you ate a diet that made you susceptible to worms. But, this dubious advantage is offset a bit by the occasions I have heard about in which the poo gets stuck and requires assistance getting dislodged from the poo-shelf, or leaves a trail which needs cleaning.
That, and the shape of the poo-shelf seems like it would make splatter a serious issue for men who pee standing up?