"Shareholders of PepsiCo have filed a resolution with the Securities and Exchange Commission in an effort to force the company to stop contracting with a research firm that uses cells from aborted babies in its process of producing artificial flavor enhancers. " :lulz:
What's even more LAIL is that other than Pepsi denying this, I can't find any sites debunking it.
QuoteForbes 1/27/2012 @ 11:15AM
Biotech's Fear Factor
So did you hear the one about the fetal tissue in your soda?
Oklahoma State Senator Ralph Shortey is being widely mocked for a bill to ban the use of human embryonic tissue in the production or research of food. Or, in the language of the bill:
No person or entity shall manufacture or knowingly sell food or any other product intended for human consumption which contains aborted human fetuses in the ingredients or which used aborted human fetuses in the research or development of any of the ingredients.
I think this bill is anti-medicine, anti-biotech, and anti-business, but I also think that Shortey has a point, and that his effort highlights a deep divide in the way people understand and feel about science that no amount of mocking on Twitter or Andy-Kaufman-esque stunt articles on Gawker will change.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2012/01/27/fetal-cells-in-soda-not-quite-the-discomfort-behind-the-controversy/
Mmmm. Pepsi!
I'm all for biotech.
But if the chemicals in Pepsi are so horrible that they have to use a cell culture to test them then I don't really want to drink it. :horrormirth: I've been seeing articles that say the caramel color in Coke is giving people cancer, too. AFAIC, it would be better if they went back to the recipe they were using forty or fifty years ago. ALL soda started tasting like crap in the 80's.
This fetal cell thing could be exploited for LAIL somehow, though. :lulz:
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on March 19, 2012, 05:52:58 PM
I'm all for biotech.
But if the chemicals in Pepsi are so horrible that they have to use a cell culture to test them then I don't really want to drink it. :horrormirth: I've been seeing articles that say the caramel color in Coke is giving people cancer, too. AFAIC, it would be better if they went back to the recipe they were using forty or fifty years ago. ALL soda started tasting like crap in the 80's.
This fetal cell thing could be exploited for LAIL somehow, though. :lulz:
You mean cocaine?
Quote from: Cain on March 19, 2012, 06:09:06 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on March 19, 2012, 05:52:58 PM
I'm all for biotech.
But if the chemicals in Pepsi are so horrible that they have to use a cell culture to test them then I don't really want to drink it. :horrormirth: I've been seeing articles that say the caramel color in Coke is giving people cancer, too. AFAIC, it would be better if they went back to the recipe they were using forty or fifty years ago. ALL soda started tasting like crap in the 80's.
This fetal cell thing could be exploited for LAIL somehow, though. :lulz:
You mean cocaine?
There were still trace amounts then? Hell, take it back 100 years to when there was enough to have an effect. Because I want to see the Tweaking-obese-people-on-scooters WalMart destruction derby :lol:
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on March 19, 2012, 06:31:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 19, 2012, 06:09:06 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on March 19, 2012, 05:52:58 PM
I'm all for biotech.
But if the chemicals in Pepsi are so horrible that they have to use a cell culture to test them then I don't really want to drink it. :horrormirth: I've been seeing articles that say the caramel color in Coke is giving people cancer, too. AFAIC, it would be better if they went back to the recipe they were using forty or fifty years ago. ALL soda started tasting like crap in the 80's.
This fetal cell thing could be exploited for LAIL somehow, though. :lulz:
You mean cocaine?
There were still trace amounts then? Hell, take it back 100 years to when there was enough to have an effect. Because I want to see the Tweaking-obese-people-on-scooters WalMart destruction derby :lol:
They used unspent coke leaves in Coke and Pepsi back in the day. Why do you think they have to add to so much crap like caffeine to it now? Or rather, why do you think they started adding other things to the recipe?
Quote from: Guru Coyote on March 19, 2012, 08:00:31 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on March 19, 2012, 06:31:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 19, 2012, 06:09:06 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on March 19, 2012, 05:52:58 PM
I'm all for biotech.
But if the chemicals in Pepsi are so horrible that they have to use a cell culture to test them then I don't really want to drink it. :horrormirth: I've been seeing articles that say the caramel color in Coke is giving people cancer, too. AFAIC, it would be better if they went back to the recipe they were using forty or fifty years ago. ALL soda started tasting like crap in the 80's.
This fetal cell thing could be exploited for LAIL somehow, though. :lulz:
You mean cocaine?
There were still trace amounts then? Hell, take it back 100 years to when there was enough to have an effect. Because I want to see the Tweaking-obese-people-on-scooters WalMart destruction derby :lol:
They used unspent coke leaves in Coke and Pepsi back in the day. Why do you think they have to add to so much crap like caffeine to it now? Or rather, why do you think they started adding other things to the recipe?
That plus whatever is cheaper for them. Like HFCS substituting for sugar.
Plus the import of caffeine on the peripheral nervous system is greater than cocaine's... More Vascular damage and such over time? (just speculating)
Quote from: LuciferX on March 19, 2012, 08:28:39 PM
Plus the import of caffeine on the peripheral nervous system is greater than cocaine's... More r damage and such over time? (just speculating)
What the fuck are you jabbering about?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 19, 2012, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on March 19, 2012, 08:28:39 PM
Plus the import of caffeine on the peripheral nervous system is greater than cocaine's... More r damage and such over time? (just speculating)
What the fuck are you jabbering about?
PNS vs. CNS stimulation
Quote from: LuciferX on March 19, 2012, 08:29:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 19, 2012, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on March 19, 2012, 08:28:39 PM
Plus the import of caffeine on the peripheral nervous system is greater than cocaine's... More r damage and such over time? (just speculating)
What the fuck are you jabbering about?
PNS vs. CNS stimulation
I am reasonably certain that you are full of shit.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 19, 2012, 08:32:17 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on March 19, 2012, 08:29:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 19, 2012, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on March 19, 2012, 08:28:39 PM
Plus the import of caffeine on the peripheral nervous system is greater than cocaine's... More r damage and such over time? (just speculating)
What the fuck are you jabbering about?
PNS vs. CNS stimulation
I am reasonably certain that you are full of shit.
I would advise a taste test
Quote from: LuciferX on March 19, 2012, 08:36:41 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 19, 2012, 08:32:17 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on March 19, 2012, 08:29:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 19, 2012, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on March 19, 2012, 08:28:39 PM
Plus the import of caffeine on the peripheral nervous system is greater than cocaine's... More r damage and such over time? (just speculating)
What the fuck are you jabbering about?
PNS vs. CNS stimulation
I am reasonably certain that you are full of shit.
I would advise a taste test
I would advise that you kiss my ass.
But well done, you have slain yet another topic.
Caffeine is beneficial to humans. It even reduces your risk of suicide.
-twid
work mode
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on March 19, 2012, 08:06:43 PM
Quote from: Guru Coyote on March 19, 2012, 08:00:31 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on March 19, 2012, 06:31:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 19, 2012, 06:09:06 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on March 19, 2012, 05:52:58 PM
I'm all for biotech.
But if the chemicals in Pepsi are so horrible that they have to use a cell culture to test them then I don't really want to drink it. :horrormirth: I've been seeing articles that say the caramel color in Coke is giving people cancer, too. AFAIC, it would be better if they went back to the recipe they were using forty or fifty years ago. ALL soda started tasting like crap in the 80's.
This fetal cell thing could be exploited for LAIL somehow, though. :lulz:
You mean cocaine?
There were still trace amounts then? Hell, take it back 100 years to when there was enough to have an effect. Because I want to see the Tweaking-obese-people-on-scooters WalMart destruction derby :lol:
They used unspent coke leaves in Coke and Pepsi back in the day. Why do you think they have to add to so much crap like caffeine to it now? Or rather, why do you think they started adding other things to the recipe?
That plus whatever is cheaper for them. Like HFCS substituting for sugar.
HFCS is sugar.
It just happens to be a more concentrated sugar syrup than plain corn syrup or cane sugar. I am sure the reason HFCS is cheap is because of how big the corn industry is in the States.
Quote from: Guru Coyote on March 19, 2012, 09:07:44 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on March 19, 2012, 08:06:43 PM
Quote from: Guru Coyote on March 19, 2012, 08:00:31 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on March 19, 2012, 06:31:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 19, 2012, 06:09:06 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on March 19, 2012, 05:52:58 PM
I'm all for biotech.
But if the chemicals in Pepsi are so horrible that they have to use a cell culture to test them then I don't really want to drink it. :horrormirth: I've been seeing articles that say the caramel color in Coke is giving people cancer, too. AFAIC, it would be better if they went back to the recipe they were using forty or fifty years ago. ALL soda started tasting like crap in the 80's.
This fetal cell thing could be exploited for LAIL somehow, though. :lulz:
You mean cocaine?
There were still trace amounts then? Hell, take it back 100 years to when there was enough to have an effect. Because I want to see the Tweaking-obese-people-on-scooters WalMart destruction derby :lol:
They used unspent coke leaves in Coke and Pepsi back in the day. Why do you think they have to add to so much crap like caffeine to it now? Or rather, why do you think they started adding other things to the recipe?
That plus whatever is cheaper for them. Like HFCS substituting for sugar.
HFCS is sugar.
It just happens to be a more concentrated sugar syrup than plain corn syrup or cane sugar. I am sure the reason HFCS is cheap is because of how big the corn industry is in the States.
Yeah, we have some kind of high yield GMO corn that they use for that and animal feed. People say it tases like crap, nobody eats it.
Corn subsidies. :|
I doubt it's made of aborted babies cells as a flavor enhancer (because, what?) but Imma drink it anyway.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/pepsi.asp
Quote from: Bu☆ns on March 20, 2012, 02:44:45 AM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/pepsi.asp
That must have just gone up.
The first thing I googled was "pepsi fetal snopes". :lol:
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on March 20, 2012, 02:57:19 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on March 20, 2012, 02:44:45 AM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/pepsi.asp
That must have just gone up.
The first thing I googled was "pepsi fetal snopes". :lol:
lol i figured as much. I had to personally check though... :P
ETA: Although it still doesn't make me feel better.... :sad:
I hear Glenn Beck raped and murdered a young girl in 1990. THERE'S NOTHING TO PROVE HE DIDN'T.
:lulz: Were you around when that was PD's favorite meme or whatever?
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on March 20, 2012, 04:27:01 AM
:lulz: Were you around when that was PD's favorite meme or whatever?
Maybe. I flounce a lot. Not like taking-my-ball-and-going-home flouncing, I'm more of an internet nomad with the attention span of a squirrel on methamphetamine.
Quote from: navkat on March 20, 2012, 04:34:49 AM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on March 20, 2012, 04:27:01 AM
:lulz: Were you around when that was PD's favorite meme or whatever?
Maybe. I flounce a lot. Not like taking-my-ball-and-going-home flouncing, I'm more of an internet nomad with the attention span of a squirrel on methamphetamine.
(http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu230/KamikazePhoenix/NoUntilYouHaveDiscovered.jpg)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/thirdinline/squirrel.jpg)
(http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/army_squirrel.jpg)
Quote from: LuciferX on March 19, 2012, 08:29:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 19, 2012, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on March 19, 2012, 08:28:39 PM
Plus the import of caffeine on the peripheral nervous system is greater than cocaine's... More r damage and such over time? (just speculating)
What the fuck are you jabbering about?
PNS vs. CNS stimulation
You're a fucking retard. Here's a clue: read everything you can on sympatheic vs. parasympathetic physiology aaaand the mechanisms of action of psychostimulants including the two mentioned. When you get to the part about Beta agonists and sympathomimetics, you're getting
warm.
Quote from: navkat on March 20, 2012, 08:19:45 AM
Quote from: LuciferX on March 19, 2012, 08:29:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 19, 2012, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on March 19, 2012, 08:28:39 PM
Plus the import of caffeine on the peripheral nervous system is greater than cocaine's... More r damage and such over time? (just speculating)
What the fuck are you jabbering about?
PNS vs. CNS stimulation
You're a fucking retard. Here's a clue: read everything you can on sympatheic vs. parasympathetic physiology aaaand the mechanisms of action of psychostimulants including the two mentioned. When you get to the part about Beta agonists and sympathomimetics, you're getting warm.
So you contend that caffeine has a greater CNS:PNS stimulation ratio? I can tell.