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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Cain on April 22, 2012, 12:12:28 PM

Title: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasites
Post by: Cain on April 22, 2012, 12:12:28 PM
Part two of the epic Atlas Shrugged trilogy is GO GO GO

http://reason.com/archives/2012/04/20/on-the-set-of-atlas-shrugged-part-ii

QuoteProduction is now underway on the second installment of the movie adaptation of Ayn Rand's famous novel.

QuoteOfficial critical reception wasn't so great—though normal folk seemed to like it better than the credentialed tastemakers, according to fim review sites such as Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes. For a brief moment even Rand-inspired businessman Aglialoro, new to filmmaking and brought to the business through his love of Rand and desire to bring her message to a movie audience, was discouraged. He told critics last April "you won" and said he was reconsidering whether or not to move forward with filming parts two and three.

By January, buoyed by what he calls encouraging DVD and video-on-demand sales, and the partnership of four other Rand-inspired financiers to help bear the production and marketing costs, Aglialoro and his production partner from Atlas Shrugged Part I, Harmon Kaslow, decided they were ready to finish what they started. At Reason Weekend, the annual event held by the Reason Foundation back in February, they announced Atlas Shrugged Part II was a go.

"Normal folk" loved it so much it took in $5 million at the box office, despite costing $20 million to film.

This is a Huge Victory for Libertarianism.

QuoteIn a move that might prove controversial to fans of Part I, this new movie has been entirely recast—not a single actor reprises their role.

Part I had fans?  This is worse than we thought.

QuoteDuring my time on set I watched the shooting of another scene that is, in a way, the lynchpin of the entire novel: the subtle attempt by Francisco D'Anconia (played by Esai Morales, most recently seen as Caprica's Joseph Adama) to convince Rearden to abandon this world of statist control, by reminding him that Rearden never wanted to devote his life's energies and creativity to "looters who think it's your duty to produce, and theirs to consume. Moochers who think they owe you nothing." (Yes, Rand fans, "looters" and "moochers," both delivered seriously in mainstream movie dialogue.) Morales delivers the iconic line about what he would tell Atlas if he saw him bleeding and suffering, trying to bear single-handedly the burden of the world: "To shrug."

Truly, a stirring moment, speaking to the most noble and greatest characteristics of humanity.

QuoteAtlas Shrugged Part II is scheduled to hit theaters in October 2012

Lolz.

Quote"The elements of this movie is so relevant to everything going on in this country, it's a natural fit" for 2012, Scott says. "People will watch this movie and say, 'This is what's going on.'"

I know having my magic metal being stolen from me by a government scientist is definitely relevant to my life.
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasites
Post by: Placid Dingo on April 22, 2012, 12:27:35 PM
I can't describe how happy this makes me.
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasites
Post by: Lenin McCarthy on April 22, 2012, 12:33:16 PM
 :aaa:
OMG!
I'm going to watch this, and part 1, and laugh nervously at what somewhat social dysfunctional 14 year old me nearly got himself into. 
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasites
Post by: Kai on April 22, 2012, 03:48:24 PM
My guess is that it will bomb even harder than the first one.
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasites
Post by: Freeky on April 22, 2012, 04:42:05 PM
Nobody from the first one wanted to be in the second one?  Nobody?  Really??  Color me shocked!!

:lulz:
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasites
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 22, 2012, 05:07:46 PM
This is going to be amazing.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasites
Post by: Freeky on April 22, 2012, 06:15:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 22, 2012, 12:12:28 PM
QuoteIn a move that might prove controversial to fans of Part I, this new movie has been entirely recast—not a single actor reprises their role.

Part I had fans?  This is worse than we thought.

Also, this made me :lol: so hard.
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasites
Post by: Bruno on April 22, 2012, 09:02:37 PM
YES! I never thought it would happen!

THANK YOU FREE-MARKET JESUS!
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasites
Post by: Placid Dingo on April 22, 2012, 11:00:11 PM
Part three is inevitable. If they can afford a Galt actor and a microphone, that's pretty much the whole film.
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasites
Post by: Junkenstein on April 22, 2012, 11:45:43 PM
For the love of Thor, we need to support this. If he threw $20 million at the first one, imagine how much he'll spend if everyone cracks out the sockpuppets and helps convince him that this one will make it big time.

Quote from: Placid Dingo on April 22, 2012, 11:00:11 PM
Part three is inevitable. If they can afford a Galt actor and a microphone, that's pretty murch the whole film.

This should be the part we desire most of all! Support Part 2 to see Part 3! Show how a fool and his money are parted!

In, quite literally, 3 steps!
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasites
Post by: Bruno on April 22, 2012, 11:48:26 PM
Quote from: Placid Dingo on April 22, 2012, 11:00:11 PM
Part three is inevitable. If they can afford a Galt actor and a microphone, that's pretty much the whole film.

I haven't actually read Atlas Shrugged yet, but I have read The Jungle by Upton Sinclair.

Just judging from the things I've heard about Atlas Shrugged, I get the impression that it was intended as a parody of The Jungle, including the long winded (pro-communism) speech at the end.
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasites
Post by: Kai on April 23, 2012, 02:55:54 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on April 22, 2012, 11:48:26 PM
Quote from: Placid Dingo on April 22, 2012, 11:00:11 PM
Part three is inevitable. If they can afford a Galt actor and a microphone, that's pretty much the whole film.

I haven't actually read Atlas Shrugged yet, but I have read The Jungle by Upton Sinclair.

Just judging from the things I've heard about Atlas Shrugged, I get the impression that it was intended as a parody of The Jungle, including the long winded (pro-communism) speech at the end.

Nothing about it is parody. Rand was serious about the whole thing.
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasites
Post by: EK WAFFLR on April 23, 2012, 03:28:15 PM
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on April 23, 2012, 02:55:54 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on April 22, 2012, 11:48:26 PM
Quote from: Placid Dingo on April 22, 2012, 11:00:11 PM
Part three is inevitable. If they can afford a Galt actor and a microphone, that's pretty much the whole film.

I haven't actually read Atlas Shrugged yet, but I have read The Jungle by Upton Sinclair.

Just judging from the things I've heard about Atlas Shrugged, I get the impression that it was intended as a parody of The Jungle, including the long winded (pro-communism) speech at the end.

Nothing about it is parody. Rand was serious about the whole thing.

She wouldn't know parody if it hit her in the head.
A more profound lack of humour is extremely rare.
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasites
Post by: Lenin McCarthy on April 23, 2012, 04:15:35 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on April 23, 2012, 03:28:15 PM
She wouldn't know parody if it hit her in the head.
A more profound lack of humour is extremely rare.

Have you ever encountered anyone from the very unlikely (and very un-Norwegian) Ayn Rand-worshipping semi-cult that is DLF, Waffle Iron? They also seem to struggle with that same problem.
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasit
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on April 23, 2012, 04:17:42 PM
Seems to be a european libertarian problem. Our rand fans are hilarious in america.
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasites
Post by: EK WAFFLR on April 23, 2012, 09:59:36 PM
Quote from: Lenin McCarthy on April 23, 2012, 04:15:35 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on April 23, 2012, 03:28:15 PM
She wouldn't know parody if it hit her in the head.
A more profound lack of humour is extremely rare.

Have you ever encountered anyone from the very unlikely (and very un-Norwegian) Ayn Rand-worshipping semi-cult that is DLF, Waffle Iron? They also seem to struggle with that same problem.

:lulz: Yes, DLF are hilariously self-righteous. I have a few aquaintances that have fallen for that shit. I thouroughly enjoy rubbing their faces in their own feces.

Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on April 23, 2012, 04:17:42 PM
Seems to be a european libertarian problem. Our rand fans are hilarious in america.

Oh, European randians are hilarious too. They are just, as I said of Rand herself, profoundly humourless.

Quote from: Ayn RandHumor is the denial of metaphysical importance to that which you laugh at. The classic example: you see a very snooty, very well dressed dowager walking down the street, and then she slips on a banana peel . . . . What's funny about it? It's the contrast of the woman's pretensions to reality. She acted very grand, but reality undercut it with a plain banana peel. That's the denial of the metaphysical validity or importance of the pretensions of that woman. Therefore, humor is a destructive element—which is quite all right, but its value and its morality depend on what it is that you are laughing at. If what you are laughing at is the evil in the world (provided that you take it seriously, but occasionally you permit yourself to laugh at it), that's fine. [To] laugh at that which is good, at heroes, at values, and above all at yourself [is] monstrous . . . . The worst evil that you can do, psychologically, is to laugh at yourself. That means spitting in your own face.
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasit
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on April 23, 2012, 10:13:50 PM
Wow. Shes the epitome of not serious about having a good time.

One time at a show some dude charged me and slammed me into an arcade machine and another bands drumset. When i realized that some dude decided to play football with me and hurt me a couple of seconds ago i started laughing. My bandmates were also laughing. Then they realized it was me and got me a beer. If you can laugh at others  but not yourself youre incapable of learning because youre too selfcentered. But id expect nothing less from rand.
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasites
Post by: Deepthroat Chopra on April 24, 2012, 04:05:51 AM
So, I take it there's little comic relief in any Rand works?
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasites
Post by: Salty on April 24, 2012, 04:13:41 AM
Quote from: Deepthroat Chopra on April 24, 2012, 04:05:51 AM
So, I take it there's little comic relief in any Rand works?
No, there is no relief, comic or otherwise. Just rape fantasy until the sounds of your own screams become passé.
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasites
Post by: Deepthroat Chopra on April 24, 2012, 04:31:16 AM
Quote from: Alty on April 24, 2012, 04:13:41 AM
Quote from: Deepthroat Chopra on April 24, 2012, 04:05:51 AM
So, I take it there's little comic relief in any Rand works?
No, there is no relief, comic or otherwise. Just rape fantasy until the sounds of your own screams become passé.

Ah. Like Australian current affairs shows on TV. Probably the same target markets.
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasites
Post by: Placid Dingo on April 25, 2012, 03:23:06 AM
Quote from: Deepthroat Chopra on April 24, 2012, 04:05:51 AM
So, I take it there's little comic relief in any Rand works?

Theres little Intentional comic releif in Rands work.
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasites
Post by: EK WAFFLR on April 25, 2012, 04:45:13 AM
Quote from: Placid Dingo on April 25, 2012, 03:23:06 AM
Quote from: Deepthroat Chopra on April 24, 2012, 04:05:51 AM
So, I take it there's little comic relief in any Rand works?

Theres little Intentional comic releif in Rands work.

Not much of the unintentional comic relief either.
Title: Re: Atlas Shrugged Part II: Return to the Valley of the Value-Destroying Parasites
Post by: Triple Zero on April 26, 2012, 04:30:14 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on April 23, 2012, 09:59:36 PMI thouroughly enjoy rubbing their faces in their own feces.

It's for their own rational self-interest.