So, as you're probably aware, Alty is kindly setting up a political forum for me to run.
Here, I want to solicit ideas and opinions about what you'd like to see. Honestly, I haven't been giving it too much thought because a) personal drama, which is none of your business b) reading c) odd sleeping patterns making it hard to sustain thoughts more complex than "check emails" and "acquire coffee".
Here is a very rough plan I came up for of the forum, as I'd like it to be.
QuoteMain
General Political Chat – stuff is happening. Talk about it, if you must. Threads from here might be promoted to other forums, as the situation develops. Otherwise, consider this a catch-all forum for things that don't fit elsewhere
The Dismal Science – the place to talk about the economy, and related issues
The Foreign Office – place for discussing foreign policy and regional/global affairs. Please note, your benevolent overlord will likely be keeping a close personal eye on this section.
Related Specialisms
History – some stuff that happened a long time ago, which probably isn't relevant
Religion – you're only going to discuss it anyway, so consider this your ghetto for C+Ping arguments from Dawkins and Deuteronomy.
Science – I want jetpacks, and I want them now
Speaker's Corner
The Partisan Divide – this is the place for where all "my political party can beat up your political party" threads go. Because they're boring, and so are you for engaging in them.
My Elected Representative is a Lizard, Your Argument is Invalid – if you start to jabber on about David Icke or insist on posting links from Prison Planet, your threads will end up here.
Off-Topic
General Discussion – I'm just dying to read about what you're listening to right now
Housekeeping– because I know I'll get thousands of confused and angry emails if I shut down the forum for 20 minutes to do a routine software update without telling anyone first
You'll note, I'm trying to keep the number of excess forums to a minimum. This is intentional, as nothing is more ridiculous and off-putting than a forum with thirty sub-sections, and less than 20 posts in each. My hope is to later expand them, adding sections for things like military and security issues, cyber-issues, rights, geopolitics and parapolitics, political science and maybe some others, but for now, to keep it down to the bare basics.
The descriptions and names of forums are not ones I'm especially insistent on having either, chosen mostly for amusement factor. However, they should convey the general idea for how I envisage that area to be used. The main is designed for the meat of discussions...it is ideally where most of the posting should be taking place, and be the largest section of the forum.
Specialisms is for things that are related to political discussion, but may not necessarily directly impact on it. I would like to encourage a higher calibre of posting in those and have it be less busy than main discussion.
Speaker's Corner is the dustbin of the site, for things that annoy me and that I want to discourage. I fully realise that giving them their own ghetto may just encourage such behaviour, but I'm hoping shame and mockery will provide sufficient incentives to discourage these things, for the most part.
And then there is the obligatory off topic and forum announcement sections, which I have merged. Should the site attract enough traffic, I would possibly split Off-Topic into several sub-topics, based on broad genre, but for the moment that is mostly certainly unnecessary.
I haven't given a huge amount of thought to the rules yet, but what I'm hoping to do is to encourage intelligent political debate with a minimum of partisan bickering or posturing, and facilitating education on political issues. As such, things like personal attacks, trolling etc will be stamped on pretty heavily, as will people posting obvious disinformation and using sources where the bias is obvious and unquestionable. I am going to think more about my exact aims and how to implement them here, but feel free to jump in if you have some ideas on that front.
Or, indeed, any other.
I like what you've got so far and don't have anything constructive to add.
Political Panic has a "Society" section that tends to get a decent amount of traffic. So, it isn't strictly politics, but are topics that can inform or influence politics. Stuff like gender roles, non-policy education topics, impact of
- on society, etc.,
But, your "Specialisms" section may end up covering all of that. Or, it may simply not be a spot of interest for the user base of this new forum.
Society sounds like it could cover a lot of potential ground. I'll have a look at Political Panic's section, to get a better feel of what it involves. Thanks
Yeah, I don't really think it would be crucial or anything, but might be a good collator if a lot of those kinds of topics seemed to come up. And I do have to throw out the caveat that it gets a lot of traffic by Political Panic standards. That place has seen its user base shrink a bit over the last year or so. But I chalk that up to some really bad (read uneven and partisan) modding. Basically if you are center or left of center, you get the hammer.
Let me know when:
1. I can reg, and
2. If & when you want the CG crowd (the sane ones, I mean).
Will do. Alty said he would be setting it up on the weekend, if he had the time, so I'll likely be tinkering for a day or two, then I'll unleash it on the internet at large.
Might also be worth recruiting the disaffected Political Panic posters....
I will load the software tonight, patience in this matter will be appreciated as I've never messed with SMF before. But it should definitely be done by this weekend, Sunday latest. I'll keep you posted.
Any thoughts on a domain name? Have I missed that?
I kinda assumed you already had a domain name, and I was just taking it over. In that case...I'll think on it.
All I have is esotericaltd.com
I can use that as a placeholder until we have something else.
Quote from: Alty on April 26, 2012, 09:40:45 PM
All I have is esotericaltd.com
I can use that as a placeholder until we have something else.
That would make an odd name for a political forum, but it might work because politics are generally hidden from the general public and thus being an esoteric subject, BUT it would likely drive away people with Judeo-Christian beliefs AND Atheistic beliefs, while potentially attracting the woowoo crowd.
Quote from: Cain on April 26, 2012, 06:49:47 PMThe descriptions and names of forums are not ones I'm especially insistent on having either, chosen mostly for amusement factor.
I do like the descriptions how they are, actually. Especially the parts about "posts might be promoted to/if..." and "XYZ will end up here" because it gives a very clear idea about how the modding will go.
I noted that on PD, during times when the subforum descriptions weren't all that ... descriptive (esp. to n00bs), stuff tended to end up a lot more wherever than after we re-fixed them. Best to keep that in mind, also as the forum evolves and subforums "feel" or purpose naturally change, adjust the descriptions accordingly. Regulars won't read them after a while, but new people do, and on PD we seemed to have ended up with a kind of generational flushing at some point, and even today people have differing ideas on what TFYS is really
for :) [which is a shame because what I think it's for was one of my favourite subforums second to O:MF ]
QuoteSpeaker's Corner is the dustbin of the site, for things that annoy me and that I want to discourage.
... Hyde Park, right? ;-)
And of course, if you need any particular kind of server/tech/G32 help with something, just shoot me a PM here.
id like to engage political issues from a certain social psychology and subjectivity angle
like on how certain actions affect the populace, or the thougth processes of politicians and their ideological constructs
i mean this might fit in any of the boards se tions u memtioned, im just sayin my interests and what i could bring to the table
exlusion, inequity, discrimination, how power perpetuates itself, etc
Brainstormed a few potential names:
Axis Of Malice
The Disorder of Things
Blood and Debt
Broken Hegemonies
Complex Deterrence
Crisis, Complexity and Conflict
Crude Democracy
Dirty Politics
Dominoes and Bandwagons
The Guns of September
Hyperpolitics
Inside the Mirage
Managed Chaos
Negotiated Risks
Shadow Globalization
The Mask of Anarchy
Violent Globalisms
The Post Modern Prince
Quote from: Cain on April 28, 2012, 08:24:07 PM
Brainstormed a few potential names:
Axis Of Malice
The Disorder of Things
Blood and Debt
Broken Hegemonies
Complex Deterrence
Crisis, Complexity and Conflict*
Crude Democracy*
Dirty Politics*
Dominoes and Bandwagons
The Guns of September
Hyperpolitics*
Inside the Mirage
Managed Chaos
Negotiated Risks*
Shadow Globalization*
The Mask of Anarchy
Violent Globalisms*
The Post Modern Prince
* = good
I would avoid using Anarchy, having mostly internet anarchists quickly becomes boring.
Axis of Malice? That could pull an interesting crowd, maybe not the one you are aiming for though.
Sounds more like the name for a MAD SCIENCE forum.
I think "Dirty Politics" has the widest appeal.
I like "Violent Globalism"
I like:
Quote from: Cain on April 28, 2012, 08:24:07 PMThe Disorder of Things
Crude Democracy
Dirty Politics
Hyperpolitics
Managed Chaos
Negotiated Risks
The Post Modern Prince
My favourites are
The Disorder of Things and
Post Modern Prince.
"Hyperpolitics" makes me think of that NIN track :) (which is a good thing) Also sounds like it has a sister/sub site "Hyperpolitics Wiki".
"Managed Chaos" seemed a bit cliché at first because the word "Chaos", but balances it out very nicely with "Managed". Also it sounds like a good solid name for a forum.
"Negotiated Risks" sounds a bit like an insurance term at first, but if the forum takes off it has real potential to become its own set phrase.
Inside the Mirage -- maybe.
Shadow Globalization -- maybe. bit of a conspiracy flavour, but that's not necessarily bad
The rest: (it's just some quick notes with my initial thoughts--not all of them serious)
Axis Of Malice -- sounds like a metal band
Blood and Debt -- "Yeah I got the link from a very insightful thread on the Blood and Debt forum" just sounds a bit ... creepy.
Broken Hegemonies -- unclear what this means
Complex Deterrence -- also unclear
Crisis, Complexity and Conflict -- will be shortened to CCC and thus get confused with the German hacker symposium (who did a Discordia theme on their 23rd anniversary, btw)
Dominoes and Bandwagons -- "boy you sure talk about complex stuff on a D&B forum"
The Guns of September -- don't know what this is referring to
The Mask of Anarchy -- great name but I echo what Regret said about using the word "anarchy"
Violent Globalisms -- might attract radical types and/or scrutiny. and the way it sounds, maybe I just got juvenile associations :)
dominoes and bandwagons is awesome
i would suggest "the great leech kaleidoscope"
for most of the issues revolve around groups of people living off and profiting from another persons work or life
kaleidoscope for when one a analyses any given situation it can seem very complex to see the patterns
Quote from: Cain on April 28, 2012, 08:24:07 PM
Brainstormed a few potential names:
Axis Of Malice
Blood and Debt
Crude Democracy
Dirty Politics
Dominoes and Bandwagons
These are my favorite. I like Blood and Debt a lot.
It looks perfect for a start and like you said, can be expanded/adjusted as needed.
Cain might I suggest adding a poll to this thread?
edit: actually scratch that, it's just as easy to tally, and then pick what you like :) though a poll would be nice to look at, in this case.
Hi all, not ignoring this thread, but had a shit night's sleep last night. Give me an hour or two to recover and I'll get around to replying and stuff.
No rush. Sounds like you have a lot of shit going on.
Quote from: Triple Zero on April 27, 2012, 12:11:44 AM
I noted that on PD, during times when the subforum descriptions weren't all that ... descriptive (esp. to n00bs), stuff tended to end up a lot more wherever than after we re-fixed them. Best to keep that in mind, also as the forum evolves and subforums "feel" or purpose naturally change, adjust the descriptions accordingly. Regulars won't read them after a while, but new people do, and on PD we seemed to have ended up with a kind of generational flushing at some point, and even today people have differing ideas on what TFYS is really for :) [which is a shame because what I think it's for was one of my favourite subforums second to O:MF ]
QuoteSpeaker's Corner is the dustbin of the site, for things that annoy me and that I want to discourage.
... Hyde Park, right? ;-)
Indeed. My hope is to branch out and further redefine areas and create new subforums as the forum increases in membership and can sustain the new additions. As such, that would involve a general and ongoing process of defining content for each subforum, which I intend to be somewhat strict with or on top of. While I might have some humour with the names, now and again, there will always be a topic at the top to describe the purpose of the forum in question, and I will be much more pro-active about moving threads over there.
And yes, Hyde Park. The names alone are part of the shaming process. You, yes
you are That Crazy Guy, ranting on your soapbox.
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on April 27, 2012, 12:50:59 AM
id like to engage political issues from a certain social psychology and subjectivity angle
like on how certain actions affect the populace, or the thougth processes of politicians and their ideological constructs
i mean this might fit in any of the boards se tions u memtioned, im just sayin my interests and what i could bring to the table
exlusion, inequity, discrimination, how power perpetuates itself, etc
I think a lot of this might fall somewhere between the Society and Philosophy forum.
I am hoping, once I have the membership to sustain it, to add a Political/Social Theory/Ideology forum, where this kind of thing may also fit as well.
I took all the forum names, for those wondering, from contemporary books on international politics, or, in one case, a riff on them. And Axis of Malice was a play on Axis of Evil.
The Guns of September is a reference to the Guns of August, Trip, a history book on the first month of fighting on the Western front in WWI, by Barbara Tuchman. It's practically a standard text on the conflict in the Anglophone countries. The September in this case refers to September 11th, and how that event triggered (or, more accurately, helped crystallise trends) that have led us to our current situation.
The Mask of Anarchy is actually a reference to Shelley, but also to the international system as a whole: on the face of it, it is anarchic, but that is a mask, there are underlying patterns of regularity and order, for those able to discern them.
I'll make a decision on names by the end of the day.
(I'm not actually adding a poll)
Choices:
Crude Democracy or Dirty Politics?
Another vote here for "Dirty Politics"
Wide appeal, also opens the scope to talk more about non democratic countries. I have a gut feeling this may get a more international crowd which could add a lot to the content.
Quote from: Cain on April 30, 2012, 05:22:04 PM
(I'm not actually adding a poll)
Choices:
Crude Democracy or Dirty Politics?
If those are the two choices, then Dirty Politics.
If it were me, it would be something like "More Political Fun Than You Really Wanted". But it's not me.
So yeah, Dirty Politics.
I really like Dirty Politics.
Dirty Politics
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 30, 2012, 05:47:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 30, 2012, 05:22:04 PM
(I'm not actually adding a poll)
Choices:
Crude Democracy or Dirty Politics?
If those are the two choices, then Dirty Politics.
If it were me, it would be something like "More Political Fun Than You Really Wanted". But it's not me.
So yeah, Dirty Politics.
That may end up being a tag-line, though.
Quote from: Cain on April 30, 2012, 06:10:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 30, 2012, 05:47:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 30, 2012, 05:22:04 PM
(I'm not actually adding a poll)
Choices:
Crude Democracy or Dirty Politics?
If those are the two choices, then Dirty Politics.
If it were me, it would be something like "More Political Fun Than You Really Wanted". But it's not me.
So yeah, Dirty Politics.
That may end up being a tag-line, though.
Or a subtitle. Something like:
DIRTY POLITICS
More Political Fun Than You Really Wanted.
dirty politics
even do "important" countries are democracies, i feel that it frames the spectrum or perspective, so rather not do so
f.e. china or north korea, african countries, middle east princeships
Oooh, I like the Header+Tagline..... nice one you two.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
So uh yeah dirtypolitics.com/net/org starts at about $10,000 so I'll go ahead and set up a paypal and once we get to our goal (with discordian car washes, I assume) I'll throw you all a pizza party.
OR
crudedemocracy.com it is!
Did you check dirtypolitics.us (or something which isn't quite as biased...)?
We could come up with a good URL that hooks into the Name/Title without that amount of investment....
or .eu or .co.uk
or dirtypoliticsforum
or dirrrrrrrrrtypolitikz
.us is available.
dirtypoliticsforum.com/net/org
If that's preferrable please let me know and i will change it. However, to get things rolling I have already registered crudedemocracy.com
Personally, I like as simple a domain as possible.
Would .us be a major problem? I don't want to put you out of pocket or make life difficult, but that does seem to be the preferred name, for some reason.
Not a worry!
I'll grab it right away.
It may take some time before it shows.
Awesome, thank you Alty.
I'm going to tinker for a few days once it is set up, play around with rules, permissions, skins and so on. I will let you guys know when it is ready for launch. Bring your friends. Bring your children. Bring your friend's children. Bring your children's friends. Charge them all $5 and don't tell them its a free event and everyone only gets a free, styrofoam cup of water.
Shit. Now it's gone. Lemme see.
I was SURE it was there.
dirtypoliticsforum is available in all forms though. Would that be preferrable to crudedemocracy.com?
The ticket for that domain hasn't yet gone through so it's not a big deal.
That sounds good to me.
available right in front of my face:
dirtypolitics.tel
.va (Vatican City)
.tm (it doesn't mean trademark, but Ill still giggle every time)
.edu (this is actually appealing, eh?)
If none of these, dirtypoliticsforum.com it is.
.com is fine, though .edu is highly tempting.
Let's go with .edu and if it's not a good fit I can change it before the launch.
I checked. .edu is only for accredited institutions, and ownership is strictly enforced.
:lol:
Well that's settled then!
All righty. Domain acquired and applied. You can't get there at all yet, well I can't, through the url because DNS nameserver thingies need to update. 24-48 hours.
Quote from: Cain on April 28, 2012, 08:24:07 PM
Brainstormed a few potential names:
Axis Of Malice
The Disorder of Things
Blood and Debt
Broken Hegemonies
Complex Deterrence
Crisis, Complexity and Conflict
Crude Democracy
Dirty Politics
Dominoes and Bandwagons
The Guns of September
Hyperpolitics
Inside the Mirage
Managed Chaos
Negotiated Risks
Shadow Globalization
The Mask of Anarchy
Violent Globalisms
The Post Modern Prince
I know it's already been decided, but just wanted to mention that I like "The Guns of September". I like it because it has an arty feel to it. So, if you ever set up a second political forum, (or a blog, or any other cyber-thing) you should call it that.
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on April 30, 2012, 11:41:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 28, 2012, 08:24:07 PM
Brainstormed a few potential names:
Axis Of Malice
The Disorder of Things
Blood and Debt
Broken Hegemonies
Complex Deterrence
Crisis, Complexity and Conflict
Crude Democracy
Dirty Politics
Dominoes and Bandwagons
The Guns of September
Hyperpolitics
Inside the Mirage
Managed Chaos
Negotiated Risks
Shadow Globalization
The Mask of Anarchy
Violent Globalisms
The Post Modern Prince
I know it's already been decided, but just wanted to mention that I like "The Guns of September". I like it because it has an arty feel to it. So, if you ever set up a second political forum, (or a blog, or any other cyber-thing) you should call it that.
Surreal Politik
/Esprit d'Escalier
Domain is coming up for me. Somebody get a stylesheet on that thing stat!
Yeah, saw that. It's not complete yet though, as logging in tries to switch me to Alty's old domain. So I suspect the transfer is still taking place.
Poasting ITT for updates. I'll be poking my head in, and in particular I'll be looking to contribute/participate in discussions about mining, mineral resources, and anything that involves pulling large quantities of crap out of the Earth.
The discovery of approximately a gazillion dollars in valuable minerals in Afghanistan a few years ago in particular piqued my interest. Last I read, China was already investing a huge amount in copper mining in Afghanistan that won't even begin to churn out ore until 2014.
Because I am a geologist, and I have no problems typecasting myself.
Sweeeeet!
Yeah it's still doing that thing. The DNS may still just be doing its thing, but I will get in touch with the host and double check.
Quote from: Cain on April 30, 2012, 10:32:48 PM
I checked. .edu is only for accredited institutions, and ownership is strictly enforced.
I was about to say ... if you can grab a .edu, fucking go for it, those things are pagerank magnets.
Okay, everything is up and running like a meth-laced cheetah.
Of course, none of you should reg just yet. I am going to take a bath now, perhaps a nap a well.
Release ad something clever sometime stuff chupacabra.
Whee. I can haz cheezburger admin now.
I'll be working on the site for the next few days, so expect no miracles in the next 24 hours/
Quote from: Alty on May 01, 2012, 09:45:11 PM
Okay, everything is up and running like a meth-laced cheetah.
Of course, none of you should reg just yet. I am going to take a bath now, perhaps a nap a well.
Release ad something clever sometime stuff chupacabra.
I got excited and registered before I read this comment.
could you guys post the link when the forum is ready? im confused as to what was the final choice
You'll receive the link written on a piece of paper from a man in a tan leather coat. He will scratch his nose once and you will smack yourself in the junk until he leaves.
Quote from: Alty on May 02, 2012, 07:56:27 AM
You'll receive the link written on a piece of paper from a man in a tan leather coat. He will scratch his nose once and you will smack yourself in the junk until he leaves.
id rather keep him than smack myself, can i keep him?
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 02, 2012, 08:32:07 AM
Quote from: Alty on May 02, 2012, 07:56:27 AM
You'll receive the link written on a piece of paper from a man in a tan leather coat. He will scratch his nose once and you will smack yourself in the junk until he leaves.
id rather keep him than smack myself, can i keep him?
No.
I'm going to look at some themes for the forum, but it might require Alty to install them, because *server stuff*
Can I haz feedback?
QuoteObvious Rules
Don't break the law.
This should be fairly uncontroversial. Do not contravene local, national or American law in what you post. While we at DirtyPolitics do not accept legal liability for members who post illegal content, Alty and I really don't want to have to deal with any more tedious legal issues than we really have to, so please don't try and add more to our already busy schedules.
What this breaks down to, in practice, is more or less this:
Do not post material that is prohibited by law, such as certain images.
Do not link to pirated material.
Do not post libellous or defamatory comments.
Observe "fair use" when it comes to online articles.
Those would be the most obvious violations, as far as I can see. Violations will be dealt with in accordance to severity of the particular incident, but it can result in a permanent ban.
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This rule applies both to behaviour on the forums and behaviour by forum members elsewhere.
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You may advertise a personal blog in your signature and/or profile. Anything else will have to be approved by the admin team before being posted. Violations of this will result in the posts in question being deleted.
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Neither of these are acceptable or to be tolerated. You know what both are by now. Don't do them. If you want more clarification, check the "Recommendations" thread.
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While we have members who can speak and read other languages, and welcome members from non-English speaking countries, English is the forum language. Threads which are not in English will be deleted. Note: of course you can still link to foreign-language media and in fact I highly encourage this, but if you are going to do so, a translation will be required.
I'm going to include a Recommendations section, of things like posting style ("call ideas stupid, not people" etc) and general good tips ("quote posts when referring to them in an argument"), but as for actual rules, how does this stand up? Are there any I'm missing? Is there a loophole or unfortunate implication I'm not seeing?
I like it.
As far as the recommendations, make a few of them rules. Someone says, "that argument is ridiculous and unfounded", okay. "You're a dumbass", probably not okay.
Yeah, I might just rewrite the trolling and flaming one to say just that.
Looks good. Clear. I can't think of anything to add, I'd cross-check with some of our rules threads (in meta-forum etc) to see if there's anything obvious missing that you might want to copy, but you probably already did that.
Yeah, and half a dozen of the more tolerable internet forums as well! :D
An extra set of eyes never hurts, though.
Updated section:
QuoteTrolling and Flaming
Neither of these are acceptable. You know what both are by now. If you have a disagreement with someone, you can still do it in a respectful manner. As such, personal attacks and insults will not be tolerated. For example, you cannot say "John Q. Smith is an idiot." You can say [X political ideology]" is stupid, of course. Attack the idea, not the person.
Trolling is purposefully trying to derail conversations or upset others using diversionary tactics. Genuine dissent or difference of opinion is not trolling. However, those whose sincerity is doubtful may find themselves suspended until they can learn to play nice with others.
This looks great! When it's up and running I will spread the link around, I think a lot of people will be interested in this.
Thanks, please do. As previously mentioned, the more members we get, the more subtopics I'll feel comfortable giving forums to - and I really want to put in some more forums.
I'm going to work for a bit on a Recommendations bit about posting on the site, and a personal bit about what I'd like to see the site do and the direction I want it to go in....and then I just need to tweak a few pieces and it'll be ready for business.
Quote from: Nigel on May 02, 2012, 04:13:43 PM
This looks great! When it's up and running I will spread the link around, I think a lot of people will be interested in this.
Quote from: Cain on May 02, 2012, 04:18:31 PM
Thanks, please do. As previously mentioned, the more members we get, the more subtopics I'll feel comfortable giving forums to - and I really want to put in some more forums.
I'm going to work for a bit on a Recommendations bit about posting on the site, and a personal bit about what I'd like to see the site do and the direction I want it to go in....and then I just need to tweak a few pieces and it'll be ready for business.
Forum put on hold while we figure out how to convert the database to UTF-8
8:46:47.am tbd Reply #79: Today at 08:45:00 AM
Those rules look good, Cain. Nicely done. :)
We're having some...rather unusual technical difficulties, which means things might be delayed for a few days.
Basically, if I try and copy something from Word 2010 and paste it into the post box, when I actually post it, it only posts everything up to the first apostrophe...and then it cuts everything else off.
Alty is looking at it, but if our more technical members could weigh in on the issue, it would be appreciated.
maybe use notepad? cause word always has that invisible code distortion when copy pasting
Looking forward to this forum.
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 02, 2012, 07:04:08 PM
maybe use notepad? cause word always has that invisible code distortion when copy pasting
Notepad does it too. Also doesn't solve the problem. I cant do it, means others cant either. Meaning less chance of someone being able to participate who wants to.
Quote from: Cain on May 02, 2012, 06:34:29 PM
We're having some...rather unusual technical difficulties, which means things might be delayed for a few days.
Basically, if I try and copy something from Word 2010 and paste it into the post box, when I actually post it, it only posts everything up to the first apostrophe...and then it cuts everything else off.
Alty is looking at it, but if our more technical members could weigh in on the issue, it would be appreciated.
Alty PMd me, and I sent a reply to both you and him. I won't have time to really look into it until tomorrow evening, then I can try to reproduce the problem for myself to figure out what's going on and what to do about it (so if you could send me that Word file, or a similar one that also has the problem--my email's in that PM).
I will keep at it. One option to consider is reinstalling the SMF software or using a different kind.
Ok. After giving the matter some thought I think the most prudent course of action, especially give the weirdness of this problem, is to:
1. Wipe the current installation and making sure that everything is well and truly cleared.
2. Reload SMF
3. Test like a motherfucker before anything else, everything we can think of doing.
4. If something fails continue to look for a fix or simply opt for different software.
Thoughts?
Agreed. I've forwaded on the relevant information to Tripzip, but he cannot do anything until tomorrow evening. Reinstall first, then if it persists, see if Trip has any ideas, then, worst comes to worst, consider other options
I'd rather keep SMF if we can, as it is normally excellent software, so switching should really be the final option
Ok. I should have that done sometime over the next few hours.
I did some research on this, it seems like a recent problem with SMF (the posts about it are fairly recent).
Here are the references I've found. If I find a solution I'll post a link.
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?P=f78b9b128bdb809601e5491344154706&topic=470035.msg3302295#msg3302295
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=472921.0
I wonder if it has something to do with using their installation program as opposed to doing it manually. I will do it manually this time.
Ho! HO HO!
So, during the manual installation, which took some fair amount of extra time because of one (1) limp brained FUCKNECK on tech support, uh oh yeah, there was an unchecked box for UTF-8 which I clicked the everloving fuck out of. Then i posted a word doc with a bunch of freaky formatting and such. And it FUCKING WORKED MOO HOO HAHA!
So yeah, I'm pretty sure it was the quickuploader since I never had the option for UTF8 with that thing. So I guess this was my fault for taking a shortcut, then again who could've guessed?
Let me know if there are any issues. I would got a second chance to not fail a class and I need to get busy.
Oh I can actually access it from my PC now as well.
Also, thanks for your help, guys. I really appreciate it.
Fcuk yeah, we're back in business.
Thanks Alty!
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FOLLOWING: a clue in the book i did go to http://www.symantec.con
to look4 Nortons GHOST | IT WAS: just A 4 trip whiTch i try to avoid
searching webcrawler ?/? i found a site that had tested / had links 2
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thing are working there & my guess is while its working | Making a
COLON makes sense to me | maybe on a Jump | anyway good luvk
Fan of SMF if U must know | once a user of php | that was years ago
Quote from: Cain on May 03, 2012, 11:13:20 AM
Fcuk yeah, we're back in business.
Thanks Alty!
You're welcome! I just hope it all works and stays working.
So this part works as it should now and I don't need to try and reproduce/fix the problem? Well done!
And in case anyone is wondering what UTF-8 and all that mysterious "encoding" talk is really about, what it actually means except for "well all I know is if you get it wrong, you either get ????? or you get these square shapes, sometimes with numbers in em, or a quote turns into two accented characters, and apparently it can even cut off your text".
This article is a very readable and excellent introduction on the subject:
The Absolute Minimum Every Software Developer Absolutely, Positively Must Know About Unicode and Character Sets (No Excuses!) (http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html) by Joel Spolsky
Actually, it's hardly an introduction, while it's "the absolute minimum for every programmer", it's also pretty much all you need to know about it whether you're programming or not. It's the basics, and it will transform "encoding" from "that mysterious thing that makes text funky sometimes" into an actual understanding of what's going on.
Yes its intended audience are programmers, but I just (re-)skimmed the text and it doesn't get too technical as far as I can tell.
(It helps if you know a tiny bit about how to count in binary: There's 8 bits in one byte. That's a sequence of eight ones and/or zeroes, and therefore you can make 28=256 different combinations of eight bits. So instead of writing down the ones and zeroes we numbered them starting with the number zero which is 0000 0000. The next one is 0000 0001, and then 0000 0010 (number two), and 0000 0011 (number three), and so on. It's important to realize that the bits on the right change first, and that the first half (0-127) of them all have the leftmost bit at zero, and the second half (128-255) is in exactly the same order as the first except it has the leftmost bit set to one).
(Oh and I see he also mentions hexadecimal numbers. That's if you have 16 digits instead of 10 (decimal) or 2 (binary). You use the regular numbers 0-9 but then instead of 10 you get A, B, C, D, E and F. The hexadecimal number "F" equals 15 decimal. Add one more and you get 16 decimal which looks like "10" in hex. Often they write hex numbers with "0x" in front of them to signify they're hex, so 0x10 = 16. The nice thing (for programmers) about hex is that the numbers 0 .. 255 (decimal) are exactly 2 hex-digits: 0x00 to 0xFF. Try this out: Start up your Windows Calculator, and select View>Scientific Mode (or in Win7 it's called "Programmer"). Now type in the number 3735928559 and hit the "Hex" button. OMG!)
Whatever, even if the hex thing flies over your head (or the binary thing for that matter), the article is still really well-written and IF you're curious, it'll explain you the fuck out of encoding and wtf is up with that and how as usual history screwed us in the ass because everybody started doing whatever without any foresight.
Fortunately most people seem to agree that UTF-8 is pretty cool and works really well (especially if you write English) and so these problems aren't nearly as bad as the shit we had to endure with HTML during the Browser Wars.
This has been a TripZip service announcement. Also, if you're NOT curious, that's completely fine ;-)
http://dirtypoliticsforum.com/index.php is about as ready for launch as it will ever be.
I suggest a week or two of putting up top quality content, then passing on the link to the Capitol Grilling lot, Nigel's friends etc
Reged as Cyborg Glenn Beck.
Registered as Kitty Parson!
Joh.Nyxian
BTW, single aposthropes " ' " are not accepted as valid characters in registring a user name (doesnt really affect me, just saying)
I think that's a general SMF thing. You can probably put them in a username, so long as your login name doesn't have them (Ie; change it in Account Settings)
Registered as Marcus Aurawlsius (edit: Changed nick to Barefoot Imelda Marcos). At some point I will invite a few of my less partisan politically interested friends.
Registered as Jubeanation.
Quote from: Cain on May 05, 2012, 09:32:44 PM
http://dirtypoliticsforum.com/index.php is about as ready for launch as it will ever be.
I suggest a week or two of putting up top quality content, then passing on the link to the Capitol Grilling lot, Nigel's friends etc
Blocked at work. :crankey:
I'll reg tonight.
I suspect that is a consequence of the name, unfortunately.
I'm going to spend a few days working on some essays to throw up on there, since, so far, it's early days and pretty quiet still.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 07, 2012, 02:48:13 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 05, 2012, 09:32:44 PM
http://dirtypoliticsforum.com/index.php is about as ready for launch as it will ever be.
I suggest a week or two of putting up top quality content, then passing on the link to the Capitol Grilling lot, Nigel's friends etc
Blocked at work. :crankey:
I'll reg tonight.
That's crazy, how can a freshly registered domain be blocked already?
What's the name of your webnanny software?
It's blocked here too by Websense for "Potentially Damaging Content"
Damnit.
If this is going to be a running theme, we may have to consider changing the forum name/URL. I'd rather have as few people pre-banned as possible.
Well, don't use my filter as a barometer. I work under a hospital that will filter out just about anything that might be wrong.
I mean, I work in behavioral health prevention and I can't fucking access Gambler's Anonymous!
Sorry. [/unsolicited soapbox]
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on May 07, 2012, 06:59:51 PM
It's blocked here too by Websense for "Potentially Damaging Content"
Websense.
And it is blocking by catagory.
Lots of workplaces and schools use Websense, though, RWHN. And you and Dok are two people I'd like to be able to access the site while bored at work during the day.
I'm almost certain that it's the name of the website that is the problem. I've finally got Paypal working, so if that is the root problem and we have to change domain (again), I'm willing to cover the cost.
I'll just have to think of a better name for the forum.
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on May 07, 2012, 06:59:51 PM
It's blocked here too by Websense for "Potentially Damaging Content"
What does that even mean, potentially damaging what? Your browser? Your sensibilities?
Quote from: Cain on May 07, 2012, 07:01:10 PMDamnit.
If this is going to be a running theme, we may have to consider changing the forum name/URL. I'd rather have as few people pre-banned as possible.
It's either keywords in the URL ("dirty" and "forum"), or maybe someone owned the domain name previously and that got blacklisted, or it could be keywords on the site.
The latter is probably unlikely due to the processing involved and real big chance at false positives.
I did a few searches for the domain name history, most of them are paid services, but from what I've been able to gather this name is probably fresh and unused.
Which leaves keywords in the domain. You might be able to patch this for people by using a subdomain of some other site that is not blocked, and pointing it at your server's IP. That way people that are blocked might be able to access the forum via the alternate subdomain. I'm not sure if this would work and whether it might require additional config at your server (does the hosting have a CPanel or something like that?), but adding a subdomain to an existing domain is free (sometimes limited to a number), so anyone's domain would do, really. And it's something to try before actually paying for a new domain name without being sure if that works.
Quote from: Cain on May 07, 2012, 07:12:37 PM
Lots of workplaces and schools use Websense, though, RWHN. And you and Dok are two people I'd like to be able to access the site while bored at work during the day.
I'm almost certain that it's the name of the website that is the problem. I've finally got Paypal working, so if that is the root problem and we have to change domain (again), I'm willing to cover the cost.
I'll just have to think of a better name for the forum.
I'm not sure if it's the domain name or the catagory set for the board (social networking, for example, is a killer).
But the categories are set by the webblocking software, and since the site is brand new, the only info it could have used to determine a category for it would have been the domain name.
Quote from: Triple Zero on May 07, 2012, 07:25:42 PM
But the categories are set by the webblocking software, and since the site is brand new, the only info it could have used to determine a category for it would have been the domain name.
I'm also blocked from EB&G.
I will look into it today. The host does have cPanel. I also have unlimited domains available, so I could add a subdomain easily.
Quote from: Alty on May 07, 2012, 07:33:54 PM
I will look into it today. The host does have cPanel. I also have unlimited domains available, so I could add a subdomain easily.
cool, but you obviously can't use a subdomain of dirtypoliticsforum.com.
you need the cPanel to tell the server that requests with
Host:dpf.innocentdomain.com headers belong to [a particular folder in] your hosting account. I'm assuming you got shared or virtual hosting, which means there are many sites running on the IP of the server with your account on it. When a browser requests a page, it connects to the IP, the only way that the server knows which domain was intended is because the browser request contains a line
Host:dirtypoliticsforum.com. So if you point another domain at that IP, you also need to let the server know that requests will come from that hostname (domain).
that is IF the problem is keywords in the domain name. which seems the most plausible explanation to me, but I don't know for sure, hence I'm first suggesting a free option to see if that works. If it works, you can always buy a real proper but innocent-sounding not-sub-domain later.
Quote from: Triple Zero on May 07, 2012, 07:21:54 PM
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on May 07, 2012, 06:59:51 PM
It's blocked here too by Websense for "Potentially Damaging Content"
What does that even mean, potentially damaging what? Your browser? Your sensibilities?
My Mom!
But seriously, here is the full text of what it bleets out when I click the link:
"This Websense category is filtered: Potentially Damaging Content. Sites in this category may pose a security threat to network resources or private information, and are blocked by your organization."
ETA: That's why I wonder if somehow my hospital has some extra sensitive version of Websense (if that's even possible, I dunno, I don't do l33t)
Our hospital obviously houses all kinds of HIPAA sensitive stuff, so it is beyond hyper-vigilant about protecting from potential breaches. (don't get me started on the shit they do with my e-mails!)
That's badass. We already have a rep.
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on May 07, 2012, 07:44:56 PMBut seriously, here is the full text of what it bleets out when I click the link:
"This Websense category is filtered: Potentially Damaging Content. Sites in this category may pose a security threat to network resources or private information, and are blocked by your organization."
ETA: That's why I wonder if somehow my hospital has some extra sensitive version of Websense (if that's even possible, I dunno, I don't do l33t)
Our hospital obviously houses all kinds of HIPAA sensitive stuff, so it is beyond hyper-vigilant about protecting from potential breaches. (don't get me started on the shit they do with my e-mails!)
Well, the webfiltering software we use at the Young Researchers Centre (called K9 something with a logo of a dog with a sheriff star) has several different filtering profiles. Each profile has certain categories that are blocked and unblocked. There's different levels of sensitivity, from no filtering at all to the most stringent one blocking all categories ("harmless" is not a category). But there's also special profiles that focus on (a very US centric morality view of) suitability for kids, Christian sensibilities or just blocking hate-speech sites.
After selecting a profile you can still turn categories on or off to customize it further. For instance I unblocked "alternative spirituality" as soon as I found I couldn't load 23AE, yet PD.com is not in that category (I also unblocked the "Abortion" and "Sexual Education" categories. While I see no reason why the kids should go there, I see no reason why they should be blocked either).
Interesting enough I can't recall seeing a category for "social networks", which would have been useful because we don't allow them to go on Facebook and the likes. It's just 10 computers though, so it's just as effective to simply keep an eye on what they're doing (probably more effective even, since I bet K9 mostly has English language sites in its category database).
But that's the thing, every web filtering software comes with its own category database. I suppose it periodically checks for updates and new sites from a central server or something.
About your particular Websense category: It just sounds very generic, like "there might be a virus or phishing on this domain but we can't outright say for sure". K9 also has a couple of very generic-sounding category names, vaguely alluding to the possibility of some sort of cybercrime. I kept most of those blocked as well because I'm not really sure until I come across a site that should not be blocked. I haven't yet tried to access dirtypoliticsforum.com over there, though. Oh and it even has an "Unknown" category for stuff they're even less sure about :)
I secretly hope one of the kids will figure out how to hack and circumvent the K9 filter, one day :) (though shoulder-surfing my admin password would be far easier)
I apologize, hand/foot/mouth disease, Microsoft Office, and my sisters inability to pay her phone bill have conspired against me today. I will look into this later tonight. Who's got thumbs and a fuckton of redbull? This guy.
I get the same blockpage as RWHN.
What's up with our employers trying to ruin our fun? They should be happy I spend a few minutes here and there pushing away from my work and not becoming a frothing, mindless robot.
Frothing, mindless robots are bad for appearances.
regged as me. 8)
Reg'd as Feldspar. My participation will be light until finals are over, most likely.
I am contacting Websense today to find out what it is exactly that's fucking it up and what their requirements are, so IF we need a different domain we will know what to avoid.
Quote from: Alty on May 09, 2012, 06:42:21 PM
I am contacting Websense today to find out what it is exactly that's fucking it up and what their requirements are, so IF we need a different domain we will know what to avoid.
And then Roger couldn't access PD. :(
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 09, 2012, 06:44:58 PM
Quote from: Alty on May 09, 2012, 06:42:21 PM
I am contacting Websense today to find out what it is exactly that's fucking it up and what their requirements are, so IF we need a different domain we will know what to avoid.
And then Roger couldn't access PD. :(
If that happens I will (in total jest, Websense humans, in jest) personally go to the Websense offices with a tire-iron and a smile.
Update: no word back yet. Still looking as my schedule permits. I have tomorrow off, will pursue a solution with vigor.
Quote from: Alty on May 07, 2012, 07:46:44 PM
That's badass. We already have a rep.
My understanding is that Websense takes the opposite approach with new sites and domains - that for the first month or so they're blocked as "potentially dangerous" until Websense has more data on them.
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on May 10, 2012, 06:07:45 PM
Quote from: Alty on May 07, 2012, 07:46:44 PM
That's badass. We already have a rep.
My understanding is that Websense takes the opposite approach with new sites and domains - that for the first month or so they're blocked as "potentially dangerous" until Websense has more data on them.
That's good to know, thanks!
Hm interesting, that's an option I hadn't considered. Here's to hoping that's the case :)
So are we waiting until the nannywall issue is cleared up to start recruiting people?
Probably, that's up to Cain. The plan was to load up a few weeks worth of content before getting new members.
So far I haven't had any word back from Websense, unsprisingly, and haven't had a chance to take a deeper look into a solution. This week I should be able to try some stuff out. Sorry for the delay.
Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on May 15, 2012, 03:00:43 AM
So are we waiting until the nannywall issue is cleared up to start recruiting people?
Basically, yes. That and get more content up and going.
Ok. So far:
No email back yet.
I reg'd an account at Websense to use their Site Lookup Tool to find it locked for a user of my level.
So I called them back and they again told me that the only way this is handled is through an email to suggest@websense.com.
Currently on hold to discover the turn around time for such an email.
Looks like this fella http://www.cleverdude.com/content/webmaster-tip-verify-your-sites-websense-category/
got to the same place.
So far the most horrible part of this ordeal is the Websense hold music. Fucking criminal.
I have created an escalated case with Websense as they have failed to respond to my emails. I brokered some sympathy from their phone personnel as I am once again poisoned by my food.
I'm guessing we will have to change the domain name. She suggested "dirty" set it off, but I imagine all three words in the current domain are causing their software's asshole to itch.
Alright then. I'll spend a bit of time brainstorming some decent, SFW names.
Does a setlist of SFW names exist? Surely someone else has run into this problem before.
I tried, all i got was porn pictures photoshopped to look like SFW... :fnord:
At least it was pretty funny
Quote from: Al "Fuck Legumes" Ty on May 21, 2012, 07:04:28 PM
I brokered some sympathy from their phone personnel as I am once again poisoned by my food.
WHY DO YOU KEEP POISONING YOURSELF WITH FOOD. STOP IT.
I think what Freeky is trying to say is "stop eating, Alty".
Quote from: Cain on May 22, 2012, 09:35:57 AM
I think what Freeky is trying to say is "stop eating, Alty".
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y153/Meiintas/AdvicePuppy2.png)
Advice Puppy is my totem animal*
:hosrie:
* Wicca troll - free to a good home
Names, in order of preference
Ars Politica
Deep Politics
Shadow Governance
Set Fire to Reality
Criminals of Thought and Action
Quote from: Cain on May 22, 2012, 11:50:28 PM
Names, in order of preference
Ars Politica
Deep Politics
Shadow Governance
Set Fire to Reality
Criminals of Thought and Action
Deep Politics is taken. My vote is for Ars Politica.
When are we ready?
It's ready as soon as everyone can see it at their work. I would still very much like some kind of guideline BEFORE trying a new domain but I realize that's doubtful.
I will register two of the possibles and test the most harmless sounding one, or a different kind of domain that I need anyway, against the one chosen. If it comes to that.
Well, I know for a fact that arspolitica.org is free.
Ars may be close enough to "arse" to set websense off, but let's hope not...
It's worth trying.
Looking through the thread I actually really like The Post Modern Prince. Maybe that for a backup?
Or Flower Power Funky Hour or TotallyHarmlessJobRelatedSite.com. Maybe Websense would like that.
I should be able to get this going tomorrow, I'll keep up with the updates.
I've registered the domain www.thepostmodernprince.com because:
A:I read just recently that politics is one of the no-nos, and I wanted to test that. Plus I like the name.
and
B:
(http://i.imgur.com/QjPm9.jpg) (http://imgur.com/QjPm9)
It would not let me clicky.
So, again, we have to wait for he DNS to change over and then see if people can get there. I'll keep testing it and will let you know when that seems viable.
Quote from: Alty on May 23, 2012, 08:19:20 AM
It's worth trying.
Looking through the thread I actually really like The Post Modern Prince. Maybe that for a backup?
Or Flower Power Funky Hour or TotallyHarmlessJobRelatedSite.com. Maybe Websense would like that.
This is why I named my web BBS Caustics Containment And Disposal Datasheets.
NO FUCKING BODY blocks something that boring-sounding.
should make an announcement for people that arent from PD, so they know it moved
There are only PD members thus far.
http://thepostmodernprince.com/
ta-da!
People: please check this at your work as soon as you are able. I know, what with the memorial day and all, that'll it'll be a bit.
But it's all done, I hope. :lol:
It wouldn't load for me. :(
If it does not load try clearing your cache in your web browser.
If that does not work you may have open command line and enter
ipconfig/flushdns
if that doesn't work let me know.
Annnd in!
Sweet.
Postmodern is one word, just so you know.
I'll play around with the title and a few other minor things tomorrow.
Then, once I'm happy with that, we can start pimping the link out. Thanks again, Alty.
Woohoo! I think that quite a few people I know who currently pay money to argue politics on another board would be interested.
You're welcome! If filters don't like it for some reason we will have to get creative, but I think it'll be all right. There is the possibility GA mentioned, that it may be blocked simply because it's new.
I guess we will find out on Tuesday.
Thanks, Nigel.
Right then, assuming everyone can access it via work, I see no reason not to start inviting new people.
I don't know if anyone in the US has BEEN at work to check it out, because of our Memorial Day holiday. Maybe check in with Dok tomorrow? He's the one who seems to have the bitchiest nannywall.
Oh yes, your public holidays are a bit different than ours. OK then, sounds like a plan.
QuoteThe Websense category "Potentially Damaging Content" is filtered. Sites in this category may pose a security threat to network resources or private information, and are blocked by your organization.
FFS.
Lets hope this is the "brand new website filter" only. Still, a fucking pain in the arse, though.
Maybe that's what the "potential" part of the description refers to?
Are we still on Websense's shitlist?
HAY! Can someone who's been blocked please clicky click.
http://thepostmodernprince.com (http://thepostmodernprince.com)
I added a splash page to see if that does the trick.
I won't be back in the office until Friday. You might need to remind me to check it.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 29, 2012, 02:45:10 PM
QuoteThe Websense category "Potentially Damaging Content" is filtered. Sites in this category may pose a security threat to network resources or private information, and are blocked by your organization.
Web ReputationThe Websense ThreatSeeker Network leverages years of experience to provide content-aware Web reputation intelligence that enables customers to manage suspicious Web sites.
Extended Protection The parent category that contains the following categories: Potentially Damaging Content - sites likely to contain little or no useful content
Quote from: Signor Paesior on June 17, 2012, 09:29:31 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 29, 2012, 02:45:10 PM
QuoteThe Websense category "Potentially Damaging Content" is filtered. Sites in this category may pose a security threat to network resources or private information, and are blocked by your organization.
Web Reputation
The Websense ThreatSeeker Network leverages years of experience to provide content-aware Web reputation intelligence that enables customers to manage suspicious Web sites.
Extended Protection The parent category that contains the following categories: Potentially Damaging Content - sites likely to contain little or no useful content
That makes sense. QUICK, ADD CONTENT TO THAT WEBSITE.
GOOD CONTENT.
A LOT OF IT.
NAO!
Please.
Quote from: Signor Paesior on June 17, 2012, 09:29:31 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 29, 2012, 02:45:10 PM
QuoteThe Websense category "Potentially Damaging Content" is filtered. Sites in this category may pose a security threat to network resources or private information, and are blocked by your organization.
Web Reputation
The Websense ThreatSeeker Network leverages years of experience to provide content-aware Web reputation intelligence that enables customers to manage suspicious Web sites.
Extended Protection The parent category that contains the following categories: Potentially Damaging Content - sites likely to contain little or no useful content
Maybe we should take the word "postmodern" out of the name?
HAY! Can someone who's been blocked please clicky click.
http://thepostmodernprince.com (http://thepostmodernprince.com)
I added a splash page to see if that does the trick.
If it does not I would greatly appreciate those who can't see it at work but would like to adding some content when they get home. It does not have to be super high caliber, grade-A stuff. Just some filler while we get rolling.
Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on June 17, 2012, 10:31:21 PM
Quote from: Signor Paesior on June 17, 2012, 09:29:31 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 29, 2012, 02:45:10 PM
QuoteThe Websense category "Potentially Damaging Content" is filtered. Sites in this category may pose a security threat to network resources or private information, and are blocked by your organization.
Web Reputation
The Websense ThreatSeeker Network leverages years of experience to provide content-aware Web reputation intelligence that enables customers to manage suspicious Web sites.
Extended Protection The parent category that contains the following categories: Potentially Damaging Content - sites likely to contain little or no useful content
Maybe we should take the word "postmodern" out of the name?
NEVER! Postmodernism is the best thing since sliced language and the Voynich Manuscript!! :argh!:
Quote from: Alty on June 18, 2012, 05:32:17 PM
HAY! Can someone who's been blocked please clicky click.
http://thepostmodernprince.com (http://thepostmodernprince.com)
I added a splash page to see if that does the trick.
If it does not I would greatly appreciate those who can't see it at work but would like to adding some content when they get home. It does not have to be super high caliber, grade-A stuff. Just some filler while we get rolling.
It works on my iPad and my work comp so it looks like it isn't getting blocked by the nannywall.
Work comp too! WHOOOOOOOOP! Dunno if it was the splash page or the content that's been added AND I DON'T GIVE A FUCK! I think it's the splash page. Websense sees that .php and just freaks out? I dunno. Now I need to pretty up the splash page somehow.
THANKS.
I am registering as Pixie. (I am not very imaginative when it comes to screen names... )
Quote from: Alty on June 20, 2012, 06:04:07 PM
Quote from: Alty on June 18, 2012, 05:32:17 PM
HAY! Can someone who's been blocked please clicky click.
http://thepostmodernprince.com (http://thepostmodernprince.com)
I added a splash page to see if that does the trick.
If it does not I would greatly appreciate those who can't see it at work but would like to adding some content when they get home. It does not have to be super high caliber, grade-A stuff. Just some filler while we get rolling.
I can see it now, at work. I will reg tonight, and be on tomorrow.
Quote from: Alty on June 18, 2012, 05:32:17 PM
HAY! Can someone who's been blocked please clicky click.
http://thepostmodernprince.com (http://thepostmodernprince.com)
I added a splash page to see if that does the trick.
If it does not I would greatly appreciate those who can't see it at work but would like to adding some content when they get home. It does not have to be super high caliber, grade-A stuff. Just some filler while we get rolling.
IT WORKS! Yaaaaay!
:ronpaul:
CHEERS
(http://i.imgur.com/av7Ii.gif)
I've logged in. Y'all have been busy! Thanks again, Cain. I'll try not to post too many idiotic things.
I regged.
Still not approved. :sad:
Huh. That's weird. It lists you on the member list and there's no one in the waiting list area thingy.
It says Dok Howl though.
In, thanks.
Hey, it's been bizy since I last checked!
In regard to Capitol Grilling: where are those guys? Do they will want an alternative place? Have they checked out the other forum?
I was going to reg there but then I remembered you can't? I thought I'd ask here first.
Quote from: Just Alty, Actually. on August 05, 2012, 08:35:26 PM
In regard to Capitol Grilling: where are those guys? Do they will want an alternative place? Have they checked out the other forum?
I was going to reg there but then I remembered you can't? I thought I'd ask here first.
They're not going anywhere. They're too busy trying to get the last word in.
This entire site is utterly pointless. What a waste of time.
Well thanks for the laughs everyone,
Alty said sardonically.
*wheeze*
*sputter*
*cough*
*proudly lasted longer than 2 of Alty's forums*
is too bad
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on August 20, 2012, 09:43:04 AM
*proudly lasted longer than 2 of Alty's forums*
Yeah, but that's like saying you could shit in your mouth for longer than I was able to recite a sonnet. Apples and fucked up little oranges.
It's also the only thing BH has to be "proud" of, in relation to Alty. As if anyone could be proud of running a forum with idiots like EBS and Oldghost running around the place. :lol:
Quote from: Alty on August 20, 2012, 04:04:31 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on August 20, 2012, 09:43:04 AM
*proudly lasted longer than 2 of Alty's forums*
Yeah, but that's like saying you could shit in your mouth for longer than I was able to recite a sonnet. Apples and fucked up little oranges.
:lulz:
Are you seriously giving up after what, a month? After virtually no recruitment efforts?
OK. :lol:
I mean, I tried to pimp it around, but you gotta give it time. This is reminding me of all the bead ladies who are like "I put up a website a week ago but nobody's buying my stuff!"
Three months with no-one bothering to recruit and a steadily declining userbase. There were no posts at all in the final week.
But thank you for your condescending comment.
Quote from: Cain on August 20, 2012, 05:37:26 PM
It's also the only thing BH has to be "proud" of, in relation to Alty. As if anyone could be proud of running a forum with idiots like EBS and Oldghost running around the place. :lol:
The traffic was about 90% trolling all along anyway.
CC's been around a long time too, and we all went there. Doesn't mean it's good for anything but shitting on.
Quote from: Cain on August 20, 2012, 11:19:27 PM
Three months with no-one bothering to recruit and a steadily declining userbase. There were no posts at all in the final week.
But thank you for your condescending comment.
Well, I did post it to several boards. Did anyone else?
It was a good idea, pity it seems to have died.
I advertisted for it on Facebook. I'm banned from a large number of political sites and the other sites I'm a member of tend to be non-political and/or have rules against promoting personal sites.
Other people also advertised for it, I believe, but nothing happened. We had very few non-PD signups. Of those PD signups, most were infrequent posters. The number of posts sharply declined from July into August, and then dropped to nothing at all. And like I said at the start of this, I'm not going to be saddled with a dead website.
FWIW, there's this one guy I know who I really wanted to get on board and would have been a great guy to have there, but he's dropped off the face of the earth for months now, apparently still in town but keeping to himself, so I never got a chance.
But yeah, getting a community started generally takes a LOT of time, and/or a LOT of effort, and some luck as well, apparently. If the project's not completely abandonedever revived I'll still pop in once a while.
I am but a humble human with server space. But I don't think I'll do any more forums. I like PD, and don't need much else in the way of communication with in that way.
I'm thinking of using the place as a AK Tea Party recruitment site or maybe a satirical online newspaper.
The Alaska Daily Disco, perhaps.
I really regret not trying to get more people to come. I guess it kind of feel under the eternal category of "Ill do it later". Still it was a fun project while it lasted, and when people actually posted.
Despite my earlier sentiment, I am grateful to everyone that did contribute. It was good stuff.
Well still is. I couldn't erase it completely yet, so it's all still around.
would it be much trouble for my "low achievement" thread to be reposted here in AI?
Not a problem, I still have all that stuff. Just give me a day or two and I can get on that.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on August 20, 2012, 09:43:04 AM
*proudly lasted longer than 2 of Alty's forums*
With C_A and EBS.
Way to fucking go, you fat fucking retard.
Quote from: Alty on August 25, 2012, 01:00:39 AM
Not a problem, I still have all that stuff. Just give me a day or two and I can get on that.
Thx Moople, no rush.