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Principia Discordia => Literate Chaotic => Topic started by: Cain on May 09, 2012, 01:22:10 PM

Title: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Cain on May 09, 2012, 01:22:10 PM
Does anyone else have the problem of browsing the online Kindle store, just aimlessly, then finding tons of interesting books for relatively minor sums, then abusing the hell out of "one-click delivery" to be able to instantly read them?

A need for instant gratification and large amounts of disposable income is a bad mix. I shall buy ALL the interesting ebooks.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: AFK on May 09, 2012, 01:28:19 PM
Do you have the  Fire?  I ask because my wife is supposed to be getting one as a 'thank you' from one of her vendors.  I'm thinking  it should be miles better than the piece of crap Literati, she received for Xmas.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Cain on May 09, 2012, 01:30:45 PM
No, mine is the light model that came out in 2010, with the keyboard.  The one there was endless advertising for.

The problem is, with the price of many books (that I'm interested in, anyway) being literally only a couple of pounds, and being able to be bought and delivered with a single click of a button, and read only minutes later, I'm finding it especially hard to resist the temptation to buy hundreds of books.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: AFK on May 09, 2012, 01:39:03 PM
I think my wife will have that same issue.  Thankfully we have small children  to eat into reading time to, somewhat, keep that in check.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: LMNO on May 09, 2012, 02:33:04 PM
it's gotten worse for me, lately.  Still waiting in the wings:

It's Even Worse Than it Looks
Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children
The Science of Science Policy
Patti Smith: Just Kids
Influence: Science and Practice
Thinking, Fast and Slow
Bob Mould: See a Little Light
All Souls
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Faust on May 09, 2012, 04:08:15 PM
I actually perfer the older kindles to the fire, the eink is much nicer to read then the colour screen.
The only thing with digital books is not everything is commited to digital form yet. I went hunting the place of dead roads and the western lands for two hours before it dawned on me that no one has created a digital copy of them yet.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 09, 2012, 04:32:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 09, 2012, 01:22:10 PM
Does anyone else have the problem of browsing the online Kindle store, just aimlessly, then finding tons of interesting books for relatively minor sums, then abusing the hell out of "one-click delivery" to be able to instantly read them?

A need for instant gratification and large amounts of disposable income is a bad mix. I shall buy ALL the interesting ebooks.

I have this problem, minus the disposable income.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: AFK on May 09, 2012, 04:33:46 PM
Quote from: Faust on May 09, 2012, 04:08:15 PM
I actually perfer the older kindles to the fire, the eink is much nicer to read then the colour screen.

I've read that in many of the reviews, and that they are also harder to read outside in sunlight.  But, I figure if it's free, it's something to live with. 
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 09, 2012, 04:34:04 PM
Kindle is still black & white, yes?
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Faust on May 09, 2012, 04:42:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 09, 2012, 04:34:04 PM
Kindle is still black & white, yes?
The old ones are, the fire is dangerously approaching Ipad territory.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 09, 2012, 04:43:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 09, 2012, 04:34:04 PM
Kindle is still black & white, yes?

I don't know if you can still get the black and white ones, but I think you can.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: LMNO on May 09, 2012, 04:57:47 PM
Quote from: Faust on May 09, 2012, 04:08:15 PM
I went hunting the place of dead roads and the western lands for two hours before it dawned on me that no one has created a digital copy of them yet.

If you make Amazon your first stop you can easily tell if there's a digitized version before heading to the torrents.  Plus, you can click a button to request that the publisher get on the stick and make a digitized version. 
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 09, 2012, 04:58:55 PM
Quote from: FUCK OFF on May 09, 2012, 04:43:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 09, 2012, 04:34:04 PM
Kindle is still black & white, yes?

I don't know if you can still get the black and white ones, but I think you can.

Don't want it B&W.  If I am going to sully myself with fake books, I at least expect color.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Cain on May 09, 2012, 05:02:05 PM
Quote from: FUCK OFF on May 09, 2012, 04:43:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 09, 2012, 04:34:04 PM
Kindle is still black & white, yes?

I don't know if you can still get the black and white ones, but I think you can.

You can, they're about £80, whatever that is in fake money.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: LMNO on May 09, 2012, 05:06:25 PM
Forty cubits, I believe.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: AFK on May 09, 2012, 05:08:23 PM
300 Farmville crops. 
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 09, 2012, 05:08:49 PM
One day, I'll cave in and buy one.

BUT NOT TODAY!
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Don Coyote on May 09, 2012, 05:51:05 PM
NO I DO NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM!!!!! WHY????? BECAUSE I AM LIKE THE PLAGUE TO KINDLES!!!! MY PRESENCE DESTROYS THEIR VITAL ESENSE!!!!!!!!!

But I do have a stupidly large number of free ebooks.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Luna on May 09, 2012, 08:38:50 PM
I have had to be very stern with myself...  I sneak to the "Kindle Bestsellers" page and restrict myself to the "Top 100 Free" listings.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on May 09, 2012, 11:01:57 PM
The Kindle has taken my normal cycle of not finishing books and amplified it by 10. Normally I buy a batch of books, get halfway through most of them, get a new batch of books, get halfway through them, go back and finish the first batch, and finally get a new batch. Repeat until death.

Now its worse because while in the past I could isolate myself with one book and say "I am going to finish this book" now I have all of them, at all times. I think Im going to sit down and finally finish this book when all of the sudden my ADD kicks in and Im reading Gravitys Rainbow.



Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 10, 2012, 12:21:25 AM
Who needs color books?  :?

OK, other than cookbooks and picture books.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2012, 12:23:42 AM
Quote from: FUCK OFF on May 10, 2012, 12:21:25 AM
Who needs color books?  :?

OK, other than cookbooks and picture books.

Graphic novels as well.  I have developed a shameful addiction to them.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 10, 2012, 12:35:20 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2012, 12:23:42 AM
Quote from: FUCK OFF on May 10, 2012, 12:21:25 AM
Who needs color books?  :?

OK, other than cookbooks and picture books.

Graphic novels as well.  I have developed a shameful addiction to them.

Ohhhh OK, I can get that.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2012, 12:40:26 AM
Quote from: FUCK OFF on May 10, 2012, 12:35:20 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2012, 12:23:42 AM
Quote from: FUCK OFF on May 10, 2012, 12:21:25 AM
Who needs color books?  :?

OK, other than cookbooks and picture books.

Graphic novels as well.  I have developed a shameful addiction to them.

Ohhhh OK, I can get that.

Yeah.

I'm not talking superhero garbage here, I'm talking Ellis and Hickman.  Both of them, incidentally, use color as cues to the storyline.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 10, 2012, 01:03:22 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2012, 12:40:26 AM
Quote from: FUCK OFF on May 10, 2012, 12:35:20 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2012, 12:23:42 AM
Quote from: FUCK OFF on May 10, 2012, 12:21:25 AM
Who needs color books?  :?

OK, other than cookbooks and picture books.

Graphic novels as well.  I have developed a shameful addiction to them.

Ohhhh OK, I can get that.

Yeah.

I'm not talking superhero garbage here, I'm talking Ellis and Hickman.  Both of them, incidentally, use color as cues to the storyline.

Yeah, for stuff like that a black and white e-reader would be useless.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Faust on May 10, 2012, 08:14:41 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2012, 12:40:26 AM
Quote from: FUCK OFF on May 10, 2012, 12:35:20 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2012, 12:23:42 AM
Quote from: FUCK OFF on May 10, 2012, 12:21:25 AM
Who needs color books?  :?

OK, other than cookbooks and picture books.

Graphic novels as well.  I have developed a shameful addiction to them.

Ohhhh OK, I can get that.

Yeah.

I'm not talking superhero garbage here, I'm talking Ellis and Hickman.  Both of them, incidentally, use color as cues to the storyline.
Both of which write superhero comics and both have done it really well. They are amoung the handful of writers willing to make superheros interesting.
For comic reading I would suggest a tablet over a kindle. Screen size and resolution make it more tollerable though nothing beats having the physical copy in your hands.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Luna on May 10, 2012, 12:13:50 PM
Quote from: Faust on May 10, 2012, 08:14:41 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2012, 12:40:26 AM
Quote from: FUCK OFF on May 10, 2012, 12:35:20 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2012, 12:23:42 AM
Quote from: FUCK OFF on May 10, 2012, 12:21:25 AM
Who needs color books?  :?

OK, other than cookbooks and picture books.

Graphic novels as well.  I have developed a shameful addiction to them.

Ohhhh OK, I can get that.

Yeah.

I'm not talking superhero garbage here, I'm talking Ellis and Hickman.  Both of them, incidentally, use color as cues to the storyline.
Both of which write superhero comics and both have done it really well. They are amoung the handful of writers willing to make superheros interesting.
For comic reading I would suggest a tablet over a kindle. Screen size and resolution make it more tollerable though nothing beats having the physical copy in your hands.

Agreed...  I haven't bought an actual physical BOOK (aside from RPG books) in ages...  But I still get my comics on paper.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2012, 05:04:15 PM
Quote from: Faust on May 10, 2012, 08:14:41 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2012, 12:40:26 AM
Quote from: FUCK OFF on May 10, 2012, 12:35:20 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2012, 12:23:42 AM
Quote from: FUCK OFF on May 10, 2012, 12:21:25 AM
Who needs color books?  :?

OK, other than cookbooks and picture books.

Graphic novels as well.  I have developed a shameful addiction to them.

Ohhhh OK, I can get that.

Yeah.

I'm not talking superhero garbage here, I'm talking Ellis and Hickman.  Both of them, incidentally, use color as cues to the storyline.
Both of which write superhero comics and both have done it really well. They are amoung the handful of writers willing to make superheros interesting.
For comic reading I would suggest a tablet over a kindle. Screen size and resolution make it more tollerable though nothing beats having the physical copy in your hands.

Yes, but they also wrote things that I personally like to read.  Which doesn't include superheros.  Not knocking the genre, I just plain can't stand it myself.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 10, 2012, 05:05:54 PM
Not even Doom Patrol?
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2012, 06:29:41 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 10, 2012, 05:05:54 PM
Not even Doom Patrol?

Nope.  The closest I come is Planetary by Warren Ellis, and only because of the bronze age of pulp feel to it.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Faust on May 10, 2012, 07:00:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2012, 06:29:41 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 10, 2012, 05:05:54 PM
Not even Doom Patrol?

Nope.  The closest I come is Planetary by Warren Ellis, and only because of the bronze age of pulp feel to it.

That's pretty damn close considering they had homage to the avengers, fantastic four and justice league in that comic. There's a lot wrong with superhero comics, with comics in general. But I'd never write off a genre, I only follow writers not story types.

When someone complains about something people do tend to start listing titles of the good stuff which is an annoying response but I'll do it anyway: My recommendation for a top of the market Superhero comic that breaks the mold and has a grim Thachers Britain feel is Alan moores Miracle Man.

I know two years or so ago I suggested trans met to you and planetary and got a similar response, so I'll turn you yet.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 11, 2012, 02:03:31 PM
Quote from: Faust on May 10, 2012, 07:00:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2012, 06:29:41 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 10, 2012, 05:05:54 PM
Not even Doom Patrol?

Nope.  The closest I come is Planetary by Warren Ellis, and only because of the bronze age of pulp feel to it.

That's pretty damn close considering they had homage to the avengers, fantastic four and justice league in that comic. There's a lot wrong with superhero comics, with comics in general. But I'd never write off a genre, I only follow writers not story types.

When someone complains about something people do tend to start listing titles of the good stuff which is an annoying response but I'll do it anyway: My recommendation for a top of the market Superhero comic that breaks the mold and has a grim Thachers Britain feel is Alan moores Miracle Man.

I know two years or so ago I suggested trans met to you and planetary and got a similar response, so I'll turn you yet.

My problem with most superhero stories is that they follow the soap opera format...The story must continue, so things that should be life-changing events sort of blur into minor blips.

The Watchmen was a counter-example...It had a beginning, a middle, and an end.  Planetary is the same way.  Superman?  After 70 years or so, what can they do with the character?  Nothing. 
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 11, 2012, 02:04:19 PM
Quote from: Faust on May 10, 2012, 07:00:55 PM

I know two years or so ago I suggested trans met to you and planetary and got a similar response, so I'll turn you yet.

Um, that wasn't me.  I've been a transmet freak since 2007.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 11, 2012, 03:31:53 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 11, 2012, 02:04:19 PM
Quote from: Faust on May 10, 2012, 07:00:55 PM

I know two years or so ago I suggested trans met to you and planetary and got a similar response, so I'll turn you yet.

Um, that wasn't me.  I've been a transmet freak since 2007.

I thought it was EOT.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Faust on May 11, 2012, 06:14:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 11, 2012, 02:04:19 PM
Quote from: Faust on May 10, 2012, 07:00:55 PM

I know two years or so ago I suggested trans met to you and planetary and got a similar response, so I'll turn you yet.

Um, that wasn't me.  I've been a transmet freak since 2007.
It may well have been 2007, my years are all rolling into one. It was definitely you and definitely planetary I suggested.
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Triple Zero on May 12, 2012, 09:27:24 PM
I was wondering about that too :)

2007 eh ... goddamn I've been here for over 6 years :eek: (thought it was late 2005 actually but it turns out to be Jan 2006)
Title: Re: Kindle owners: SYMPATHISE WITH ME!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 12, 2012, 11:27:56 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 11, 2012, 02:03:31 PM
My problem with most superhero stories is that they follow the soap opera format...The story must continue, so things that should be life-changing events sort of blur into minor blips.

The Watchmen was a counter-example...It had a beginning, a middle, and an end.  Planetary is the same way.  Superman?  After 70 years or so, what can they do with the character?  Nothing.

Yeah, I definitely get that one. When I do go for supers, it's usually only for one author's run on a thing, or only a couple trades. Like, I would never say I'm a fan of Animal Man, but Grant Morrison's run on it was fucking amazing. And then it was over, and I never read any Animal Man again.