http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-honor-student-thrown-jail-missing-school-article-1.1085027
holy fuckballs, I cannot believe a judge sends an over tired stressed out ABANDONED BY HER PARENTS high achiever (nonetheless), and supporting her brother at college...
:ragefroth:
Clearly the absolute best thing for this student right now is a criminal record and having to miss even more work and classes due to jail time.
yea, and it's not as if 24 hours in jail is going to help her stress levels and help her sleep, is it?
This will teach all those immigrant women their place.
It's Willis. Cain't have them Azns gittin uppity and bein Valley Dick Torn.
"The racial makeup of the city was 61.28% White, 21.15% African American, 0.68% Native American, 0.48% Asian, 14.40% from other races, and 2.01% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 27.23% of the population." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis,_Texas)
Quote from: white host
A Willis Highschool student is learning a tough lesson about skipping school, but its because shes having a tough time...
"SHES BEING PUNISHED FOR HER OWN GOOD - ITS NOT SO MUCH PUNISHMENT AS IT WILL ALLOW HER TO HAVE FREE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT!"
A fund is being started for the student in the OP.
http://urkobold.blogspot.com/2012/05/texas-jurisprudence-strikes-again.html for details
Pretty good indication of how well the system is working.
Maybe they can institute a policy of having bloodhounds hunt down truant students.
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 27, 2012, 01:00:21 PM
Maybe they can institute a policy of having bloodhounds hunt down truant students.
You joke about it now...
You know, it's great. We live in this great country, the land of the Free, a democracy, and we have this document, the Constitution, which protects our rights as citizens. But if you're under 18, it's a whole different story. You are required to attend school; that's compulsory. When you are in school, you and your personal possessions are not protected by the Constitution, and there are behaviors that are not crimes for other categories of citizen. Talking back, chewing gum, or burping may be found to be a crime and result in an arrest record and jail time. Using an inhaler or taking Midol may result in an arrest record and jail time. Being late may result in an arrest record and jail time. Your parents may try to object, but if they do, or if they attempt to withdraw you from this abusive environment, they may face accusations of child neglect. Functionally, until you are 18 you belong not to your parents, but to the State.
Land of the free.
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on May 27, 2012, 05:16:17 PM
You know, it's great. We live in this great country, the land of the Free, a democracy, and we have this document, the Constitution, which protects our rights as citizens. But if you're under 18, it's a whole different story. You are required to attend school; that's compulsory. When you are in school, you and your personal possessions are not protected by the Constitution, and there are behaviors that are not crimes for other categories of citizen. Talking back, chewing gum, or burping may be found to be a crime and result in an arrest record and jail time. Using an inhaler or taking Midol may result in an arrest record and jail time. Being late may result in an arrest record and jail time. Your parents may try to object, but if they do, or if they attempt to withdraw you from this abusive environment, they may face accusations of child neglect. Functionally, until you are 18 you belong not to your parents, but to the State.
Land of the free.
This bring up the question of whether education should be mandatory eh?
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on May 27, 2012, 05:07:23 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 27, 2012, 01:00:21 PM
Maybe they can institute a policy of having bloodhounds hunt down truant students.
You joke about it now...
well, if we can have drug sniffing dogs go after their lockers... it seems legit. :horrormirth:
Funnily enough, the criticisms of existing state education here are strongly approaching that of the anarchist critique of education, which I have a certain amount of sympathy for (though I think their conclusion is pretty weak. As with Marx, great analysis, not so great solutions).
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 27, 2012, 05:21:57 PM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on May 27, 2012, 05:07:23 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 27, 2012, 01:00:21 PM
Maybe they can institute a policy of having bloodhounds hunt down truant students.
You joke about it now...
well, if we can have drug sniffing dogs go after their lockers... it seems legit. :horrormirth:
When you consider that "truancy" means you can be picked up by the police, regardless of what you are doing, for not being in school, and that
truancy is a crime you can be charged with, it's perfectly plausible.
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on May 27, 2012, 05:07:23 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 27, 2012, 01:00:21 PM
Maybe they can institute a policy of having bloodhounds hunt down truant students.
You joke about it now...
A lot of jokes turn out to be prophetic. Buy some cayenne, get your kids a copy of Cool Hand Luke and make sure they watch it. :horrormirth:
Jail? Really?
I think it might just be impossible to take the piss out of America any more. Well, if Texas counts. Is this one of those Privatised prison lobby things, where private prisons lobby the government for what used to be civil offences becoming criminal and jail-sentence offences? Sounds like.
To think, Billy Bragg wrote "Help Save the Youth of America" in the 80's.
It could also be "the judge is an investor in the private prison" thing. I recall a similar case not too long ago.
However, it is more likely to be mindless authoritarianism than anything else.
EDITED FOR CLARITY:
I read something a while back about the school system being set up as a pipeline to either prison or the military. BOTH of those are a mainline of income for often the same private contract corporations: health, nutrition, welfare, security and armament services. The warm bodies in any given institution need to be clothed, fed, bathed, have waste services and be on one side or the other of the guns and metal bars.
From there, the prisoners keep getting perpetually re-fed into the prison system or are kept in a state of justified dis-empowerment as they become minimum-wage laborers with no sense of righteousness or hope and often stripped of even the right to vote.
Ex military are fed back into the system too...through the VA which feeds some of the SAME CONTRACTORS in health and human services and into DoD, Police, Fire and EMS positions because these are the jobs to which their skillsets most often translate seamlessly.
This is already very firmly the case in poor and lower-middle-class neighborhoods where there really aren't any other choices and it's finding its way up the ladder.
But then again, "up the ladder" is finding itself lower and lower, now, aren't we?
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 27, 2012, 01:00:21 PM
Maybe they can institute a policy of having bloodhounds hunt down truant students.
I just had a flashback to Fahrenheit 451...
Quote from: Cain on May 29, 2012, 07:21:14 AM
However, it is more likely to be mindless authoritarianism than anything else.
From the "manager" of your local Macdonalds, right up to the Fuhrer of America. Mindless authoritarianism is the glue that holds this fine democracy of ours together.
This is like something straight out of Rash (http://www.amazon.com/Rash-Pete-Hautman/dp/0689869045). Just wait till the prisons are run by multinational corps who use the prisoners as indentured workers to create their goods. Middle ages here we come!
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on May 31, 2012, 03:26:52 AM
This is like something straight out of Rash (http://www.amazon.com/Rash-Pete-Hautman/dp/0689869045). Just wait till the prisons are run by multinational corps who use the prisoners as indentured workers to create their goods. Middle ages here we come!
Whaddaya mean, "just wait"?
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on May 31, 2012, 03:34:38 AM
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on May 31, 2012, 03:26:52 AM
This is like something straight out of Rash (http://www.amazon.com/Rash-Pete-Hautman/dp/0689869045). Just wait till the prisons are run by multinational corps who use the prisoners as indentured workers to create their goods. Middle ages here we come!
Whaddaya mean, "just wait"?
The future is now!
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on May 31, 2012, 03:53:32 AM
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on May 31, 2012, 03:34:38 AM
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on May 31, 2012, 03:26:52 AM
This is like something straight out of Rash (http://www.amazon.com/Rash-Pete-Hautman/dp/0689869045). Just wait till the prisons are run by multinational corps who use the prisoners as indentured workers to create their goods. Middle ages here we come!
Whaddaya mean, "just wait"?
The future is now!
I own clothes made by prison labor. And by own I mean "I was issued" and by clothes I mean "FUCKING PT SHORTS ARE THE DEVIL!!!!"
Reversal and dropping of the charges?
http://abcnews.go.com/US/community-aid-jailed-texas-honor-student/story?id=16464091#.T8fHGkXa7St
QuoteTran's attorney, Brian Wice, told ABC News that he met with the Moriarty and convinced him to reverse his decision and drop the contempt charge, hoping to clear Tran's record.
http://gawker.com/5914669/hard+working-texas-honor-student-jailed-for-truancy-will-have-conviction-erased-from-record
QuoteJudge Lanny Moriarty, who previously said he sentenced 17-year-old Diane Tran to serve jail-time because he wanted to make an example of her, reviewed Tran's many hardships and determined that extenuating circumstanced led to her truancy.
Quote from: Guru Quixote on May 31, 2012, 11:11:31 PM
Reversal and dropping of the charges?
http://abcnews.go.com/US/community-aid-jailed-texas-honor-student/story?id=16464091#.T8fHGkXa7St
QuoteTran's attorney, Brian Wice, told ABC News that he met with the Moriarty and convinced him to reverse his decision and drop the contempt charge, hoping to clear Tran's record.
http://gawker.com/5914669/hard+working-texas-honor-student-jailed-for-truancy-will-have-conviction-erased-from-record
QuoteJudge Lanny Moriarty, who previously said he sentenced 17-year-old Diane Tran to serve jail-time because he wanted to make an example of her, reviewed Tran's many hardships and determined that extenuating circumstanced led to her truancy.
At this point it's pretty much the only way for him to save his career, is my bet.
Yep. He was fine locking her up until it got all this attention. Wasn't he supposed to "review" the situation in the first place?
I really do wonder if the charges were reversed mainly due to the amount of attention the judge received. That, for real justice, your case needs to go viral.
Yup. That's why Zimmerman's getting charged, too.
Quote from: Bu☆ns on June 01, 2012, 02:32:07 AM
I really do wonder if the charges were reversed mainly due to the amount of attention the judge received. That, for real justice, your case needs to go viral.
I'd take trial by media over trial by fat fuck who gets backhanders from the jail for every new mailbag operative he sends their way, any fucking day of the week.
I just can't stand maritime tribunals.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on June 01, 2012, 09:52:06 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on June 01, 2012, 02:32:07 AM
I really do wonder if the charges were reversed mainly due to the amount of attention the judge received. That, for real justice, your case needs to go viral.
I'd take trial by media over trial by fat fuck who gets backhanders from the jail for every new mailbag operative he sends their way, any fucking day of the week.
Hell yeah...there's something legitimately democratic about a trial by media (for now)...only thing is, you just have to be the lucky contestant.
Please tell me you're taking the piss.
Quote from: LuciferX on June 01, 2012, 09:56:07 AM
I just can't stand maritime tribunals.
Oh, Christ. Shut up.
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on May 31, 2012, 03:34:38 AM
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on May 31, 2012, 03:26:52 AM
This is like something straight out of Rash (http://www.amazon.com/Rash-Pete-Hautman/dp/0689869045). Just wait till the prisons are run by multinational corps who use the prisoners as indentured workers to create their goods. Middle ages here we come!
Whaddaya mean, "just wait"?
The largest owner of prisons in the USA is Corrections Corporation of America (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrections_Corporation_of_America)
(Their stocks are doing well this year) (http://www.nyse.com/about/listed/lcddata.html?ticker=CXW&fq=D&ezd=1Y&index=5)
Apparently Goldman Sachs is the Designated Market Maker, though i have no idea what that means exactly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_maker)
Soooo, yeah. The future is now! Aren't you glad to be part of the future? To know that the ones pulling the strings now were your classmates!
Quote from: :regret: on June 01, 2012, 11:50:33 PM
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on May 31, 2012, 03:34:38 AM
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on May 31, 2012, 03:26:52 AM
This is like something straight out of Rash (http://www.amazon.com/Rash-Pete-Hautman/dp/0689869045). Just wait till the prisons are run by multinational corps who use the prisoners as indentured workers to create their goods. Middle ages here we come!
Whaddaya mean, "just wait"?
The largest owner of prisons in the USA is Corrections Corporation of America (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrections_Corporation_of_America)
(Their stocks are doing well this year) (http://www.nyse.com/about/listed/lcddata.html?ticker=CXW&fq=D&ezd=1Y&index=5)
Apparently Goldman Sachs is the Designated Market Maker, though i have no idea what that means exactly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_maker)
Soooo, yeah. The future is now! Aren't you glad to be part of the future? To know that the ones pulling the strings now were your classmates!
:lol: I keep thinking that if we all screech about this loud enough, people will actually pay attention.
But nope.
Have you researched ALEC yet? Ever since I found out about them I've been trying to get people to look them up so they have a better understanding of what's going on, but for the most part everyone seems to think that's too much work.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 01, 2012, 02:40:35 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on June 01, 2012, 09:56:07 AM
I just can't stand maritime tribunals.
Oh, Christ. Shut up.
Welcome back, great to have you, although I resent the implication :eek:
Quote from: Bu☆ns on June 01, 2012, 02:21:26 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on June 01, 2012, 09:52:06 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on June 01, 2012, 02:32:07 AM
I really do wonder if the charges were reversed mainly due to the amount of attention the judge received. That, for real justice, your case needs to go viral.
I'd take trial by media over trial by fat fuck who gets backhanders from the jail for every new mailbag operative he sends their way, any fucking day of the week.
Hell yeah...there's something legitimately democratic about a trial by media (for now)...only thing is, you just have to be the lucky contestant.
It's funny how if you replace media with mob the statement can be made both true and false depending on what universe you live in.
Quote from: Blackfoot on June 06, 2012, 09:34:36 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on June 01, 2012, 02:21:26 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on June 01, 2012, 09:52:06 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on June 01, 2012, 02:32:07 AM
I really do wonder if the charges were reversed mainly due to the amount of attention the judge received. That, for real justice, your case needs to go viral.
I'd take trial by media over trial by fat fuck who gets backhanders from the jail for every new mailbag operative he sends their way, any fucking day of the week.
Hell yeah...there's something legitimately democratic about a trial by media (for now)...only thing is, you just have to be the lucky contestant.
It's funny how if you replace media with mob the statement can be made both true and false depending on what universe you live in.
Thing is, I think the media did what it was supposed to do, bring up shit that is going on that people should know about as far as their governments and their rights are concerned.
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on June 02, 2012, 01:33:30 AM
Quote from: :regret: on June 01, 2012, 11:50:33 PM
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on May 31, 2012, 03:34:38 AM
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on May 31, 2012, 03:26:52 AM
This is like something straight out of Rash (http://www.amazon.com/Rash-Pete-Hautman/dp/0689869045). Just wait till the prisons are run by multinational corps who use the prisoners as indentured workers to create their goods. Middle ages here we come!
Whaddaya mean, "just wait"?
The largest owner of prisons in the USA is Corrections Corporation of America (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrections_Corporation_of_America)
(Their stocks are doing well this year) (http://www.nyse.com/about/listed/lcddata.html?ticker=CXW&fq=D&ezd=1Y&index=5)
Apparently Goldman Sachs is the Designated Market Maker, though i have no idea what that means exactly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_maker)
Soooo, yeah. The future is now! Aren't you glad to be part of the future? To know that the ones pulling the strings now were your classmates!
:lol: I keep thinking that if we all screech about this loud enough, people will actually pay attention.
But nope.
Have you researched ALEC yet? Ever since I found out about them I've been trying to get people to look them up so they have a better understanding of what's going on, but for the most part everyone seems to think that's too much work.
:?
http://swampland.time.com/2012/04/09/alec-what-it-does-and-why-three-major-corporations-cut-ties/
http://www.policymic.com/articles/6970/alec-dropped-by-reed-elsevier-joins-mcdonald-s-and-pepsi-in-mass-exodus
http://www.katu.com/politics/national/-Amazoncom-drops-affiliation-with-political-group-153781495.html?m=y&smobile=y
Quote from: Net on June 06, 2012, 11:30:46 PM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on June 02, 2012, 01:33:30 AM
Quote from: :regret: on June 01, 2012, 11:50:33 PM
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on May 31, 2012, 03:34:38 AM
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on May 31, 2012, 03:26:52 AM
This is like something straight out of Rash (http://www.amazon.com/Rash-Pete-Hautman/dp/0689869045). Just wait till the prisons are run by multinational corps who use the prisoners as indentured workers to create their goods. Middle ages here we come!
Whaddaya mean, "just wait"?
The largest owner of prisons in the USA is Corrections Corporation of America (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrections_Corporation_of_America)
(Their stocks are doing well this year) (http://www.nyse.com/about/listed/lcddata.html?ticker=CXW&fq=D&ezd=1Y&index=5)
Apparently Goldman Sachs is the Designated Market Maker, though i have no idea what that means exactly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_maker)
Soooo, yeah. The future is now! Aren't you glad to be part of the future? To know that the ones pulling the strings now were your classmates!
:lol: I keep thinking that if we all screech about this loud enough, people will actually pay attention.
But nope.
Have you researched ALEC yet? Ever since I found out about them I've been trying to get people to look them up so they have a better understanding of what's going on, but for the most part everyone seems to think that's too much work.
:?
http://swampland.time.com/2012/04/09/alec-what-it-does-and-why-three-major-corporations-cut-ties/
http://www.policymic.com/articles/6970/alec-dropped-by-reed-elsevier-joins-mcdonald-s-and-pepsi-in-mass-exodus
http://www.katu.com/politics/national/-Amazoncom-drops-affiliation-with-political-group-153781495.html?m=y&smobile=y
What's the confusion-face part?
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on June 07, 2012, 07:19:43 AM
Quote from: Net on June 06, 2012, 11:30:46 PM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on June 02, 2012, 01:33:30 AM
Quote from: :regret: on June 01, 2012, 11:50:33 PM
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on May 31, 2012, 03:34:38 AM
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on May 31, 2012, 03:26:52 AM
This is like something straight out of Rash (http://www.amazon.com/Rash-Pete-Hautman/dp/0689869045). Just wait till the prisons are run by multinational corps who use the prisoners as indentured workers to create their goods. Middle ages here we come!
Whaddaya mean, "just wait"?
The largest owner of prisons in the USA is Corrections Corporation of America (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrections_Corporation_of_America)
(Their stocks are doing well this year) (http://www.nyse.com/about/listed/lcddata.html?ticker=CXW&fq=D&ezd=1Y&index=5)
Apparently Goldman Sachs is the Designated Market Maker, though i have no idea what that means exactly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_maker)
Soooo, yeah. The future is now! Aren't you glad to be part of the future? To know that the ones pulling the strings now were your classmates!
:lol: I keep thinking that if we all screech about this loud enough, people will actually pay attention.
But nope.
Have you researched ALEC yet? Ever since I found out about them I've been trying to get people to look them up so they have a better understanding of what's going on, but for the most part everyone seems to think that's too much work.
:?
http://swampland.time.com/2012/04/09/alec-what-it-does-and-why-three-major-corporations-cut-ties/
http://www.policymic.com/articles/6970/alec-dropped-by-reed-elsevier-joins-mcdonald-s-and-pepsi-in-mass-exodus
http://www.katu.com/politics/national/-Amazoncom-drops-affiliation-with-political-group-153781495.html?m=y&smobile=y
What's the confusion-face part?
It seems that people are looking up ALEC more than ever. How else do you explain the mass exodus?
Also, what do you think are the most important things that people ought to know? I've been considering making infographics with references to disseminate through the web and print.
ALEC has come to prominence since the Trayvon Martin case, but only among people who are typically well informed on political issues (notably, there has been a large amount of ALEC posts on liberal blogs....though one could argue just how well informed liberal bloggers are, they are generally better informed than the statistical base rate).
Quote from: Net on June 07, 2012, 11:12:24 AM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on June 07, 2012, 07:19:43 AM
Quote from: Net on June 06, 2012, 11:30:46 PM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on June 02, 2012, 01:33:30 AM
Quote from: :regret: on June 01, 2012, 11:50:33 PM
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on May 31, 2012, 03:34:38 AM
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on May 31, 2012, 03:26:52 AM
This is like something straight out of Rash (http://www.amazon.com/Rash-Pete-Hautman/dp/0689869045). Just wait till the prisons are run by multinational corps who use the prisoners as indentured workers to create their goods. Middle ages here we come!
Whaddaya mean, "just wait"?
The largest owner of prisons in the USA is Corrections Corporation of America (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrections_Corporation_of_America)
(Their stocks are doing well this year) (http://www.nyse.com/about/listed/lcddata.html?ticker=CXW&fq=D&ezd=1Y&index=5)
Apparently Goldman Sachs is the Designated Market Maker, though i have no idea what that means exactly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_maker)
Soooo, yeah. The future is now! Aren't you glad to be part of the future? To know that the ones pulling the strings now were your classmates!
:lol: I keep thinking that if we all screech about this loud enough, people will actually pay attention.
But nope.
Have you researched ALEC yet? Ever since I found out about them I've been trying to get people to look them up so they have a better understanding of what's going on, but for the most part everyone seems to think that's too much work.
:?
http://swampland.time.com/2012/04/09/alec-what-it-does-and-why-three-major-corporations-cut-ties/
http://www.policymic.com/articles/6970/alec-dropped-by-reed-elsevier-joins-mcdonald-s-and-pepsi-in-mass-exodus
http://www.katu.com/politics/national/-Amazoncom-drops-affiliation-with-political-group-153781495.html?m=y&smobile=y
What's the confusion-face part?
It seems that people are looking up ALEC more than ever. How else do you explain the mass exodus?
Also, what do you think are the most important things that people ought to know? I've been considering making infographics with references to disseminate through the web and print.
They are, now, finally, and they should be, but it's taken forever and it's amazing how dismissive even other activists have been when I've tried to talk about just how balls-deep in the erosion of civil rights ALEC is. But I did see the first "STOP ALEC" flyers at school a few months ago.
1. ALEC is behind most or all "Tough On Crime" and "Three Strikes" laws.
2. ALEC is behind anti-immigrant laws that criminalize being in the country without documentation, including expired work or student visas.
3. ALEC is behind most or all "Zero Tolerance" laws that criminalize minor students for trivial infractions.
4. Prison corporations provide the high-school security contracts that enforce the "Zero Tolerance" laws.