So I'm sure many of you have already read the story of a Florida man who was shot while eating the face off of another guy. He apparently had to be shot multiple times and was growling at people.
Cops quoted in the news suspect the man was on 'bath salts'. *
In the book 'The Serpent and the Rainbow', Wade Davis claimed that Hatian witch doctors induced a 'zombie-like' state using compounds of drugs (neurotoxins and psychoactives). The veracity of his theories have been widely panned, but in this case, I think we could argue that a person with little or no cognitive ability, decreased sensitivity to pain, increased strength etc would fit the bill as a 'zombie' (not the undead kind, but the drug induced kind).
Does the existence of a drug induced zombie attack strengthen the argument for concealed handguns for personal protection? Or is it outweighed by the abuse of concealed weapons, such as the situation with Zimmerman and Martin?
* not gonna comment on the absurdity of comparing bath salts' to LSD.
I would think that it strengthens the argument for concealed handguns (and machetes, perhaps) if anything, and whether it is outweighed by the abuses is a related, but separate matter, no?
that is to say, that it couldn't reasonably weaken the argument for CHL, and in many peoples' opinions would strengthen it, but whether it would convince someone opposed to the practice to change their mind is unlikely. so for them the answer would be 'both'.
If he was shot several times it doesnt really affext the argument imo. With zombies you gotta aim for the head. Which will kill someone who isnt a zombie too. It might be considered excessive force. Depending on the situation if i had to defend myself with a firearm i would aim for the knee caps. Which wouldnt work in this situation.
Also- violent cannibalism is still rare. My chances of having my face eaten still approach zero.
Can Zombies use concealed guns?
If they think to use that rather than their bare hands yes. George romero zombies dont exist. Only drug zomies and voodoo zombies which are special drug zombies.
Quote from: Twiddlegeddon on May 29, 2012, 04:39:03 PM
If they think to use that rather than their bare hands yes. George romero zombies dont exist. Only drug zomies and voodoo zombies which are special drug zombies.
I am a P-Zombie....
So, you can add that to your list.
What the hell is that?:lol:
Maybe something like P Funk with zombies?
Quote from: Cain on May 29, 2012, 04:37:14 PM
Can Zombies use concealed guns?
Not concealed ones, no. It's pretty obvious when a jittery corpse tries to take pot shots at you.
See the 2000 Ryuhei Kitamura film, 'Versus'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNgdB-n71is
I think we also have to consider the concept of muscle memory, too. A concealed gun permit owner likely has more experience with firearms than your average zombie. Therefore, they are likely to be better shots, even in death. The way to hold a gun and squeeze the trigger will come to them more naturally, much in the way after years of practice, martial artists can perform certain techniques without conscious and deliberate control.
It may be better that, come the start of a zombie apocalypse, we immediately round up and liquidate those with extensive combat training.
Quote from: Cain on May 29, 2012, 05:08:24 PM
I think we also have to consider the concept of muscle memory, too. A concealed gun permit owner likely has more experience with firearms than your average zombie. Therefore, they are likely to be better shots, even in death. The way to hold a gun and squeeze the trigger will come to them more naturally, much in the way after years of practice, martial artists can perform certain techniques without conscious and deliberate control.
It may be better that, come the start of a zombie apocalypse, we immediately round up and liquidate those with extensive combat training.
An excellent point. Iin the case of this particular zombie though, he was naked and locations for hidden firearms would be greatly reduced.
Reduced, though not eliminated (http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/716461-obese-prisoner-hides-gun-in-his-fat).
Yet another reason the US will be super screwed in the Zombie Apocalypse :D
Quote from: Twiddlegeddon on May 29, 2012, 04:59:15 PM
What the hell is that?:lol:
it's a philosophical thought experiment. interesting, but not really related to the serious question at hand. i was just being goofy.
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 29, 2012, 05:13:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 29, 2012, 05:08:24 PM
I think we also have to consider the concept of muscle memory, too. A concealed gun permit owner likely has more experience with firearms than your average zombie. Therefore, they are likely to be better shots, even in death. The way to hold a gun and squeeze the trigger will come to them more naturally, much in the way after years of practice, martial artists can perform certain techniques without conscious and deliberate control.
It may be better that, come the start of a zombie apocalypse, we immediately round up and liquidate those with extensive combat training.
An excellent point. Iin the case of this particular zombie though, he was naked and locations for hidden firearms would be greatly reduced.
He could still have been skilled in unarmed combat. a Kung-Fu Korpse, of sorts.
hey, someone needs to make a zombie movie where they aren't just runners, but enhanced in agility. Parkour Zombies out to get you. it would be creepy, action packed, and have the possibility of some real comic relief.
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on May 29, 2012, 05:19:17 PM
Quote from: Twiddlegeddon on May 29, 2012, 04:59:15 PM
What the hell is that?:lol:
it's a philosophical thought experiment. interesting, but not really related to the serious question at hand. i was just being goofy.
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 29, 2012, 05:13:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 29, 2012, 05:08:24 PM
I think we also have to consider the concept of muscle memory, too. A concealed gun permit owner likely has more experience with firearms than your average zombie. Therefore, they are likely to be better shots, even in death. The way to hold a gun and squeeze the trigger will come to them more naturally, much in the way after years of practice, martial artists can perform certain techniques without conscious and deliberate control.
It may be better that, come the start of a zombie apocalypse, we immediately round up and liquidate those with extensive combat training.
An excellent point. Iin the case of this particular zombie though, he was naked and locations for hidden firearms would be greatly reduced.
He could still have been skilled in unarmed combat. a Kung-Fu Korpse, of sorts.
hey, someone needs to make a zombie movie where they aren't just runners, but enhanced in agility. Parkour Zombies out to get you. it would be creepy, action packed, and have the possibility of some real comic relief.
Lightning Zombies from D&D...
The zombies from 'Legend' were kinda like that... though the movie sucked so badly, maybe it shouldn't count :D
Though honestly, I think part of the horror is the 'shambling hoard' nature of zombies, they aren't smart or fast, they're just inevitable.
i remember the zombies in Legend being strong... were they agile in a Parkour type fashion? :?
i hadn't heard of the lightning zombies, so i did a search and it popped up on a list of top 10 gayest D&D monsters.
based on the description given, they do sound pretty fabulous....
i know what you mean by the inevitability of the zombies being their biggest creep factor, but they just never seemed like certain doom to me if they were the shambling type. It always seemed at some point that the protagonists behaved as ridiculously as the guy getting run over by the steam roller in Austin Powers...
this thread has me chomping at the bit for season 3 of Walking Dead...
Our DM used lightning zombies once and then we ruled against them for future use :D
I think the Legend zombies were simply not 'shambling', they retained their human skills, so a Parkour human turned zombie (or darkwalker or whever stupid name they had) would retain their Parkour abilities.
It was basically humans with a template of 'sensitive to sunlight/hunger for human flesh' added, IIRC.
As written to death i think the zombie genre is (i see them as on par with vampires as far as horror goes) i would shell out money to see a movie with both parkour and kung fu zombies. Hopefully the camp factor will effectively kill the genre for at least a decade. I doubt it though.
The only zombie movie of the last four years worth a damn is Zombieland. That is because a) it's mostly not about zombies, and b) Bill Murray.
People are starting to believe in them, you know. I had a lady bending my ear about "necro mortosis virus" just a couple of weeks ago. You THINK they're winos but they're zombified from a government virus that got out and you have to shoot them in the head. :horrormirth:
Might have a repeat of this (http://www.registercitizen.com/articles/2008/11/02/news/doc490e5cc2edca6475695642.txt) soon. Only with zombies and winos, not vampires and bodies.