www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/06/14/155059849/michigan-state-rep-barred-from-speaking-after-vagina-comments
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During a heated debate on the floor of the Michigan state House, Rep. Lisa Brown made an impassioned speech against a bill that seeks to put new regulations on abortion providers and ban all abortions after 20 weeks.
Brown, a Democrat, argued that her Jewish faith allowed for therapeutic abortions when the mother's life is in danger without regard to length of pregnancy.
"I have not asked you to adopt and adhere to my religious beliefs. Why are you asking me to adopt yours?" she said. But what came next is what got her in trouble: "And finally, Mr. Speaker, I'm flattered that you're all so interested in my vagina, but 'no' means 'no.'"
The Detroit News reports today the House Republican leadership did not allow Brown to speak on a bill about the retirement of school employees.
The News reports:
"'What she said was offensive," said Rep. Mike Callton, R-Nashville. 'It was so offensive, I don't even want to say it in front of women. I would not say that in mixed company.'
"Majority Floor Leader Jim Stamas, R-Midland, determined Brown's comments violated the decorum of the House, said Ari Adler, spokesman for the Republican majority."
Brown called a press conference, today, the Detroit Free Press reports. She defended her use of the word "vagina," saying it is the "anatomically medically correct term."
"If they are going to legislate my anatomy, I see no reason why I cannot mention it," she said according to the Free Press.
"Regardless of their reasoning, this is a violation of my First Amendment rights and directly impedes my ability to serve the people who elected me into office," Brown added in a statement released by her office.
Mail a card with just the word VAGINA on it to:
Jase Bolger
Speaker of the House
PO Box 30014
Lansing, MI 48909-7514
Yes
Done.
Quote"'What she said was offensive," said Rep. Mike Callton, R-Nashville. 'It was so offensive, I don't even want to say it in front of women. I would not say that in mixed company.'
WOMEN - Please tell us the term you would prefer instead of "Vagina".
Because this guy is acting like a cunt.
Gonna go out and buy a card...
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 15, 2012, 10:21:42 PM
Quote"'What she said was offensive," said Rep. Mike Callton, R-Nashville. 'It was so offensive, I don't even want to say it in front of women. I would not say that in mixed company.'
WOMEN - Please tell us the term you would prefer instead of "Vagina".
Because this guy is acting like a cunt.
:lulz: I should have listed a huuuge number of synonyms on that card. That would have been funnier.
Quote from: Net on June 15, 2012, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on June 15, 2012, 09:32:13 PM
Done.
8) :hi5: 8)
:lulz: It's a good idea. Mind if I spread the idea itself?
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on June 15, 2012, 10:30:28 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 15, 2012, 10:21:42 PM
Quote"'What she said was offensive," said Rep. Mike Callton, R-Nashville. 'It was so offensive, I don't even want to say it in front of women. I would not say that in mixed company.'
WOMEN - Please tell us the term you would prefer instead of "Vagina".
Because this guy is acting like a cunt.
:lulz: I should have listed a huuuge number of synonyms on that card. That would have been funnier.
Quote from: Net on June 15, 2012, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on June 15, 2012, 09:32:13 PM
Done.
8) :hi5: 8)
:lulz: It's a good idea. Mind if I spread the idea itself?
By all means! I stole it myself.
I'm actually rather surprised at all this. It's the closet I've seen to asking for a jake.
Because who knows, first women start saying they've got a vagina, next they'll be waving them in our faces.....
SA garbo- Considering how many synonyms there are it may be easier to ask which one/s do you find the most offensive?
I picked "Cunt" as the generic go-to, but it's hardly at the top of my "never say to women" list
I find "meat wallet" and similar offensive because they objectify the female altogether. But other than that, I can't really think of anything.
If a man is offended by vaginas its possible that hes gay. I might raise this possibility in one of the many cards i send to the man over the course of the year.
Some medical illustrations might also be appropriate.
A phot of a baby crowning with a text bubble so the baby can say vagina. The word vagina spelled with pictures of vaginae. This will be fun.
Letters from "supporters" urging him to introduce a bill banning the word vagina from being mentioned at all in the state with a $100 fine as penalty. Gynacologists will not get a waiver. The letters should avoid using the word vagina.
:lulz: I love you, Twid.
Dawww i love you too.
Quote from: Twiddlegeddon on June 15, 2012, 10:53:15 PM
If a man is offended by vaginas its possible that hes gay. I might raise this possibility in one of the many cards i send to the man over the course of the year.
I'm quite confident that this chap is as heterosexual as Ted Haggard, Mark Foley or Larry Craig.
Twid - I suggest making something of this nature.
(http://media.whatifoundtoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Naked-Vagina-bike-2.jpg)
If the word gets this reaction I'd love to see the shade he turns at this rolling past. Assuming he's aware of what it is
Feck. Ill have to check it when i get home.
Shit i just remembered. Theres naked ladies in like 70% of every painting ever made.
Twid,
never thought about pussy so much for nonsexual purposes before
I'm going to write to him as a concerned Norwegian citizen, describing how Norwegian society is on the verge of collapse because of the exponential growth in the usage of the word, and that he should take action to remove the word from the face of the earth completely.
The english word or the norsk word (if theres a dif)?
Quote from: Twiddlegeddon on June 15, 2012, 11:31:11 PM
The english word or the norsk word (if theres a dif)?
Vagina is the same. I could also provide a list of all the Norwegian synonyms I know for it.
This would be interesting just to see how many match up.
And new words are always handy eventually. Enlighten us!
I'll supply with words if Lenin forgets some, or I am in possesion of lesser known variants.
I'll also join in on the "Send a Vagina to the Senator" campaign. Maybe order a fleshlight in his name?
A page with translations of vagina into as many languages that the page will fit. Since vagina itself is latin for sheath you might be interested that the actual word for it is cunnus (hence cunt and cunnilingus) i reckon vagina was a vulgar slang term that ended up being the norm.
Think bigger waffles. One of those big things molded from porn actresses that you can mount on the wall in your jackoff corner.
You Americans with all your capitalism must have a million products, abortion clinics, planned parenthood, sex shop etc.. places that will send a flyer or email to him at the minimum for registering on a website surely?
Basically get as many places sending him literature likely to have the word "vagina" in it somewhere?
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 15, 2012, 11:52:00 PM
You Americans with all your capitalism must have a million products, abortion clinics, planned parenthood, sex shop etc.. places that will send a flyer or email to him at the minimum for registering on a website surely?
Basically get as many places sending him literature likely to have the word "vagina" in it somewhere?
Oh yes. Most definitely yes. Also, I think we should send him tampons and maxi pads.
And that is a huge ass vagina, Junks.
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A few Norwegian words: Mus (mouse), fitte (cunt), kuse (thing you hang curtain poles on), høne (hen), glufse (untranslateable), kjøttgardiner (meat curtains), bever (beaver)
Quote from: Lenin/McCarthy on June 16, 2012, 01:19:23 AM
A few Norwegian words: Mus (mouse), fitte (cunt), kuse (thing you hang curtain poles on), høne (hen), glufse (untranslateable), kjøttgardiner (meat curtains), bever (beaver)
Well, we have cunt, meat curtains and beaver in common...
How vulgar is glufse? The fact that it's untranslatable intrigues me.
glufse is vaguely equivalent to gash.
Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on June 16, 2012, 01:27:23 AM
glufse is vaguely equivalent to gash.
Gash is not used in America, but it is used in Ireland (and presumably in the UK).
Interesting other note for musicians. In Ireland (and presumably in the UK) flange is also used to describe female genitalia.
Flange withing music is the effect that makes a whooshing sound. An example might be... hrmmm... the drums on Kashmir by Led Zeppelin, I think.
Quote from: Twiddlegeddon on June 16, 2012, 01:43:43 AM
Interesting other note for musicians. In Ireland (and presumably in the UK) flange is also used to describe female genitalia.
Flange withing music is the effect that makes a whooshing sound. An example might be... hrmmm... the drums on Kashmir by Led Zeppelin, I think.
One of Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden's solo project songs. Flanging is at about 1:14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vceY27HUAK4
I'd say Gash is used in the UK, but not really widely. There's a definite tendency over here that a certain line(Slang in this regard generally) is considered "blue" and so if you're crossing it, you may as well cut to the chase, grab the cheap laugh and go as offensive as your audience will laugh at.
For example, there was a minor outcry a while back when Cameron mentioned twitter / Twat. Can't recall the quote but it was a minor event. If he'd been using "more offensive" slang then it may have been a bigger issue.
I'm just realising how fucked your free speech laws must be.
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 16, 2012, 01:50:49 AM
I'd say Gash is used in the UK, but not really widely. There's a definite tendency over here that a certain line(Slang in this regard generally) is considered "blue" and so if you're crossing it, you may as well cut to the chase, grab the cheap laugh and go as offensive as your audience will laugh at.
For example, there was a minor outcry a while back when Cameron mentioned twitter / Twat. Can't recall the quote but it was a minor event. If he'd been using "more offensive" slang then it may have been a bigger issue.
I'm just realising how fucked your free speech laws must be.
Theoretically our free speech laws are fine.
Of course this gets complicated in the fact that no one in the United States, save for PDers, seem to know what the First Amendment actually means, or what its implications are.
Strictly speaking, it means that the United States government is unable to restrict your speech.
In common parlance it means that if someone calls you out on being an assbag, they're infringing on your rights even if they're not employed by the government.
They always ignore the fact that criticizing your words is also protected by free speech.
Prime example, anytime someone mentioned that Sarah Palin said something retarded, and her response, which clearly showed she has no understanding of the Constitution and is not fit for office.
Quote from: The Founding FathersCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
As you can see, this is probably one of the most violated sections of the Constitution, but not for the reasons that people generally complain about.
Also, the First Amendment clearly states that the official stance of the United States about the existence of God, or which specific god, is "irrelevant."
Or at least, it is supposed to be.
I think I was trying to get at while the "Laws" may be fine, even laudable, the subsequent implementation seems to be lacking.
I've only really got a basic handle on the constitution and similar things. It's just a lazy assumption I keep making that laws in general will be ill applied sooner or later no matter the original intent.
Like pretty much everything on the AI board it's a case of shut up and learn more
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 16, 2012, 02:12:05 AM
I think I was trying to get at while the "Laws" may be fine, even laudable, the subsequent implementation seems to be lacking.
I've only really got a basic handle on the constitution and similar things. It's just a lazy assumption I keep making that laws in general will be ill applied sooner or later no matter the original intent.
Like pretty much everything on the AI board it's a case of shut up and learn more
Laws are often fine and good when first implemented. This, however, assumes that humans as a whole are rational things with a basic level of reading comprehension. So they get twisted.
You just told me to shut up in AI (not really, but I'm choosing to be offended for SCIENCE! experiment here). You're infringing on my right to free speech, even though PD is a private organization and can legally tell me to shut the fuck up and enforce it, regardless. (PD is under Irish jurisdiction, but we're assuming United States, again, for SCIENCE!) And as an ill-informed American, I can bitch about this shit and you must accommodate me.
I suppose the other side of it is some humans have a very good level of reading comprehension and know exactly what they want to comprehend. So you equally get a slide that way in similar or other regards ultimately leading to all sorts of shit being very wrong and it's a bit of a fucker to unravel it all.
Do we not get to spout shit under EU/human rights act over here?
Just realising how much I need to look into this kind of shit.
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 16, 2012, 02:35:49 AM
I suppose the other side of it is some humans have a very good level of reading comprehension and know exactly what they want to comprehend. So you equally get a slide that way in similar or other regards ultimately leading to all sorts of shit being very wrong and it's a bit of a fucker to unravel it all.
Do we not get to spout shit under EU/human rights act over here?
Just realising how much I need to look into this kind of shit.
Finding loopholes and making it fit your interpretation is a bit different than gross misinterpretation though.
Strictly speaking, if you call me an asshole for saying something stupid, I'm infringing on your right to free speech by saying you're infringing on mine.
Except in reality, neither of us is infringing anything since neither of us is Congress, as a whole, making a law, saying Junkenstein can't say shit about Twid.
To be honest, right now, I'm just amazed at how far away the conversation has got from vaginas.
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 16, 2012, 02:52:11 AM
To be honest, right now, I'm just amazed at how far away the conversation has got from vaginas.
You have a point.
VAGINA
VULVA
I shared the idea via status on facebook.
Shared on discordia2011 on FB. Getting good feedback.
You spags rock.
I have until Monday before there's any point in mailing it, so I'll have some time to think through what to write. Lots of unfortunate misspellings?
"Your country's very successful war against Labia, and your recent reaction against the use of the word "vagina" emboldens my faith in America as the world's supreme guardian of freedom, democracy and decency. We cun't let words like these pollute our language. Even here, in the traditionally so chaste and pietous nether regions of Norway, society is being overrun by pornography and other immorality. We can't be like your President Hussein Obama (what a twat) and let our positions "evulva", we must stand by our good Christian values. "
Quote from: Lenin/McCarthy on June 17, 2012, 02:13:18 AM
"Your country's very successful war against Labia.."
:lulz:
(http://i.imgur.com/axLih.jpg)
Quote from: Net on June 17, 2012, 02:54:57 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/axLih.jpg)
That's :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Also, Lenin, if you're going to try and make "unintentional mistakes" I suggest screwing up the grammar and syntax (just a little- enough to be noticeable and mark you as a foreigner) in ways that a Norwegian would if he was still learning but capable of holding a conversation. I mean, the envelope will have been stamped as from Norway, but just for that little extra effect.