http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-18552221
Is he the guy that invented your beer or something?
Distant cousin. But hes a high ranking member of sinn fein (the ira's political party) deputy first minister of northern ireland and recently lost the presidential election in the republic (while pointing out an interesting paradox. He can run for president of ireland but not vote for president of ireland since he lives outside of the republic).
Grandpa also voted for him which was an interesting change- gramps usually supports the fianna fail party.
Philip being kept away. Keeps on mentioning potatoes and asking if everyone has enough of them.
You're shitting me. There's acually a "Fail Party"?
Philip should just be kept away period. :lulz:
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on June 22, 2012, 08:19:19 PM
You're shitting me. There's acually a "Fail Party"?
This is why Europe will once again rule the world.
Quote from: Twiddle Recall on June 22, 2012, 08:19:48 PM
Philip should just be kept away period. :lulz:
On the contrary, he should Chair the UN. I don't understand why they keep him away from volatile situations. He missed out on his life's calling as "The provoker"
Cant type accent marks. Fianna fail loosely translates as soldiers of destiny. Theyre center right. Its pronounces kinda like feena fawl
Theres also the fine gael party. Im one fine gael i say to myself when i look in the mirror. But thats pronounced finnuh gwayl and means tribe of the irish.
Quote from: Twiddle Recall on June 22, 2012, 08:23:54 PM
Cant type accent marks. Fianna fail loosely translates as soldiers of destiny. Theyre center right. Its pronounces kinda like feena fawl
Doesn't matter. This is America, so you speak American. "The Party of
Fail" will never falter!
:lulz: fair point.
Anyway joking about unfortunate irish language spellings aside- this is pretty big since the ira successfully assassinated one of the queens cousins back in the seventies when he was on vacation in ireland.
This is going to end well.
Mainly as the script has already been written and all that's left is the photo-op handshakes.
Fair point. But i think this comes out of sinn fein going "damn. We were dicks to her last time she was here and she went and honored dead irish rebels."
But the fact that the script has been written in the first place is promising.
I'll admit to knot knowing fuck-all about the intricacies of Irish politics, but I do know that if I was Martin McGuinness the only reason I'd shake hands with the queen would be because I had just shat myself and dragged my hand right through it.
Well the ira has more or less abandoned paramilitarism in favor of the political process. Maybe this is supposed to show that sinn feins serious about it. Or it could also be damage control.
Cain and faust would probably be able to shed some more light on this than i can.
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on June 22, 2012, 09:13:17 PM
I'll admit to knot knowing fuck-all about the intricacies of Irish politics, but I do know that if I was Martin McGuinness the only reason I'd shake hands with the queen would be because I had just shat myself and dragged my hand right through it.
I hope for your sake that you won't being going to Blighty anytime soon.
Because that old woman would beat you stupid before you even saw it coming.
Well, I suppose this will make abandoning absenteeism in 2015 a little bit easier.
I mean, how will all those top Sinn Fein politicians be able to milk the system on the paltry allowances of MLAs? It's only as an MP you can really steal.
Not sure i follow. Absenteeism?
Sinn Fein refuse to sit in Parliament because it means swearing an oath to the Queen. Party policy is that the 16 Northern Ireland MPs also get to sit in the Irish Parliament.
Ah. Great way to get shit done. I take it thats going to be disallowed in 2 years?
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on June 22, 2012, 08:26:18 PM
Quote from: Twiddle Recall on June 22, 2012, 08:23:54 PM
Cant type accent marks. Fianna fail loosely translates as soldiers of destiny. Theyre center right. Its pronounces kinda like feena fawl
Doesn't matter. This is America, so you speak American. "The Party of Fail" will never falter!
American is to language as monopoly money is to real money. Though with the latter I understand you Americans are trying erode that distinction too.
Quote from: Twiddle Recall on June 22, 2012, 09:16:16 PM
Well the ira has more or less abandoned paramilitarism in favor of the political process. Maybe this is supposed to show that sinn feins serious about it. Or it could also be damage control.
Cain and faust would probably be able to shed some more light on this than i can.
There are a lot of schisms now. The paramilitary are regarded more as terrorists then political.
Also as to the queen, she is the only notable English figure to apologise for the Irish occupation, only the dumbest of our nationalistic crowd dislike her.
Quote from: Twiddle Recall on June 22, 2012, 11:05:50 PM
Ah. Great way to get shit done. I take it thats going to be disallowed in 2 years?
Don't know. But if they're shaking hands with her now, it will probably be easier to justify sitting in Westminster further down the road.
It also doesnt really make sense to dislike the queen since shes not much more than a figurehead.
Im also guessing that if the ira splinter groups are more and more regarded as terrorists then sinn fein would eventually have to sit in parliament to at least look relevant. In that light i can see why sf is making this move.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 22, 2012, 10:25:59 PM
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on June 22, 2012, 09:13:17 PM
I'll admit to knot knowing fuck-all about the intricacies of Irish politics, but I do know that if I was Martin McGuinness the only reason I'd shake hands with the queen would be because I had just shat myself and dragged my hand right through it.
I hope for your sake that you won't being going to Blighty anytime soon.
Because that old woman would beat you stupid before you even saw it coming.
Oh, I have nothing against the queen. In fact, I'd kind of like to hit that.